[00:00:55] <Thieol_away>	 exit
[00:01:20] <rschen7754>	 legoktm: oh, i was just saying since you were so upset over the death of bnr1
[00:01:27] <rschen7754>	 is it ok for me to add stuff?
[00:01:33] <legoktm>	 yeah should be
[00:01:55] <rschen7754>	 ok
[00:09:12] <Automatik>	 hi
[00:09:20] <legoktm>	 https://toolserver.org/~legoktm/cgi-bin/wikidata/logs.py?job=421 >.<
[00:09:36] <Automatik>	 is someone knows why the slurpinterwiki gadget doesn't work ?
[00:14:34] <legoktm>	 rschen7754: oh yeah. prop bot runs on toolserver, so its fine. it was my itwiki persondata import that got killed
[00:14:40] <rschen7754>	 ok
[00:57:38] <Utar>	 Hi again. Is some part of Wikidata database locked? I can edit some items but two of them are telling me again and again some error have occured. 
[00:57:47] <Utar>	 Trying to merge  http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q6641037 and http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q5968512.
[00:58:04] <legoktm>	 try using www.wikidata.org
[00:58:32] <Utar>	 lol, it works :D
[00:59:12] <legoktm>	 yeah thats weird.
[00:59:14] <legoktm>	 lemme delete it now
[00:59:26] <Utar>	 delete either one
[00:59:30] <legoktm>	 oh wait, you didnt merge yet?
[01:00:13] <Utar>	 legoktm: no
[01:00:42] <legoktm>	 ok let me know when you do
[01:01:05] <Utar>	 legoktm: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6641037 is down, http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5968512. lives
[01:01:32] <legoktm>	 {{done}}
[01:01:32] <AsimovBot>	 How efficient, legoktm!
[01:02:18] <Utar>	 AsimovBot: as always :D
[01:02:18] <AsimovBot>	 04Error: Command “as” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written.
[01:02:46] <Utar>	 thanks, legoktm
[01:02:56] <legoktm>	 no problem
[02:51:39] <legoktm>	 ugh
[02:51:44] <legoktm>	 no one is doing code reviews on bots
[03:22:15] <yurik>	 legoktm, first there has to be a coding review for the frameworks :)
[03:22:29] <legoktm>	 well
[03:22:36] <legoktm>	 i just read through some code
[03:22:43] <legoktm>	 and realized it was using the API to check langlinks
[03:22:47] <legoktm>	 instead of the page text
[03:22:58] <legoktm>	 and 2 bots running this code have been approved
[03:23:02] <legoktm>	 and 2 are pending
[03:32:11] <yurik>	 yep :)
[03:33:09] <yurik>	 but until we either change the way langlinks are stored in the database, or store an additional field to say where that langlink came from, not much we can do from the api
[03:33:22] <legoktm>	 you just check the page text
[03:41:00] <yurik>	 legoktm, for that the bot has to download every page text there is
[03:41:15] <legoktm>	 exactly
[03:41:17] <yurik>	 which is clearly not the best solution - pumping the entire wiki content is expensive
[03:41:17] <legoktm>	 so you use a dump
[03:41:30] <yurik>	 which is only ... 1 month old at best?
[03:41:37] <yurik>	 while tons of bots are going crazy?
[03:41:41] <legoktm>	 most small wikis dont get touched
[03:42:01] <legoktm>	 i wrote a generator that parses a dump, checks with the API that the page hasnt changed
[03:42:06] <legoktm>	 if it has, get the new content
[03:42:14] <legoktm>	 and then uses that
[04:01:56] <yurik>	 that is a nice solution
[04:02:22] <yurik>	 still, we really ought to get the "source" into langlinks
[04:04:00] <legoktm>	 yeah
[10:06:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45821) Fix prev diff link to work in special:contributions etc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[10:17:00] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5313768 edit summary: [-761] remove this section as it is no longer really relevant and outdated
[10:19:01] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12meta_wikimedia a page Wikidata was modified, changed by Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=5313777 edit summary: [-132] clean this box up
[10:20:05] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: think this is related what you fixed this morning, right? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Issue_with_diffs
[10:20:20] <Tobi_WMDE>	 I'll review your fix
[10:21:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45821) Fix prev diff link to work in special:contributions etc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[10:41:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[10:46:40] <aude>	 Tobi_WMDE:  looking
[10:47:20] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: will you submit a patch regarding daniel's comments?
[10:48:22] <aude>	 sure
[10:50:15] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: there's no real issue there, just nitpicks. feel free to ignore them.
[10:54:14] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: ok
[10:54:18] <aude>	 i can make it a bit nicer
[10:57:01] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: if we don't specify an oldid query param, then it should default to current revision
[10:57:15] <aude>	 not sure about defaulting to 0
[10:58:12] <aude>	 http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q55424&diff=prev for example
[11:10:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45159) Introducing snaklistview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53150
[11:10:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Triggering "remove" event in the edittoolbar widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53151
[11:10:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45159) Splitting snaklistview from referenceview" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53152
[11:10:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45159) Enabling multiple snaks per reference" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53153
[11:10:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45159) Separated toolbar for editing a reference's snaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53154
[11:23:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45821) Fix prev diff link to work in special:contributions etc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[11:29:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Remove unused argument in method call" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53156
[11:34:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45821) Fix prev diff link to work in special:contributions etc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[11:41:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45821) Fix prev diff link to work in special:contributions etc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[11:47:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(11 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[11:50:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "poking at this more, it's seems silly that we're duplicating code here when we can use code from cor..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[11:58:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "core code sucks! needs more poking to see if/what can be shared and tests added." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[12:02:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "> core code sucks! " [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[12:07:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[12:14:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 45159) Separated toolbar for editing a reference's snaks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53154
[12:30:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Entity selector: Using user language when in MediaWiki context" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51646
[12:37:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44674) Entity search: Prevent closing suggestion list" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51662
[13:06:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44674) Entity search: Prevent closing suggestion list" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51662
[13:19:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45821) Fix prev diff link to work in special:contributions etc." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[13:31:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51883
[13:32:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43998) initial implementation of property parser hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[13:35:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43998) initial implementation of property parser hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[13:37:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43998) initial implementation of property parser hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[13:38:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[13:42:30] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53150
[13:44:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(testing) added qunit eachchange-tests to selenium" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53161
[13:48:32] <lbenedix1>	 can someone help me with that gerrit-thing?
[13:48:34] <lbenedix1>	 I get mysterious error-messages: http://pastebin.com/5ghcVpx0
[13:50:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: John Erling Blad; "Seems to be correct, also at the edges." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[13:50:56] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53147
[13:54:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53151
[14:15:22] <lbenedix1>	 any idea?
[14:25:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53161
[14:27:27] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53156
[14:32:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Cleanup in SiteLinkTableTest" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53168
[14:33:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52785
[14:36:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Add method to get EntityId for a SiteLink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53169
[14:47:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43998) initial implementation of property parser hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[14:47:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "patchset 8: rebased against site link table patches" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[14:49:50] <LAKSHAY>	 hi
[14:50:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hey LAKSHAY
[14:51:02] <LAKSHAY>	 hi Lydia I am new here could you explain to me me what this is 
[14:51:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 this channel? it is for discussions around the Wikidata project
[14:52:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Wikidata itself: do you know Wikimedia Commons?
[15:36:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43998) initial implementation of property parser hook [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[15:37:29] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53152
[15:37:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53153
[15:50:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53154
[16:10:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[16:10:42] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: the {{property}} function is looking pretty good, i'll start testing it now.
[16:10:42] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:property
[16:10:48] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: there is still an issue with escaping though, see comments
[16:15:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[16:31:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "read to merge (but why is the "Publish and Submit" button deactivated?)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53169
[16:34:24] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: it's still very much WIP, though
[16:39:57] <lazowik>	 hi
[16:41:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51662
[16:42:48] <lazowik>	 I think that this got quite stuck: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/47088/
[16:42:59] <lazowik>	 Do you know If I can ping anyone?
[16:43:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lazowik: i'll have a look and add reviewers
[16:43:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx for poking
[16:44:43] <lazowik>	 Well, it's got a few already...
[16:46:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah
[16:46:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 needs to be bumped up again on their list
[16:46:58] <lazowik>	 ok, thanks
[16:46:59] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: well, there are several loose ends, but they don't have to go into this patch. just leave TODOs in the code.
[16:47:06] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 what di you think needs doing before this can be merged?
[16:47:17] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: we do want this in wmf12, right?
[16:47:24] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 it's pretty much *the* blocker
[16:47:25] <Denny_WMDE1>	 need to poke them. ^demon, Reedy, can you take a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/47088/ ?
[16:47:40] <Denny_WMDE1>	 DanielK_WMDE_: aude: yep :)
[16:47:45] <Denny_WMDE1>	 this is sparta.
[16:47:47] <Denny_WMDE1>	 i mean wmf12
[16:47:57] <^demon>	 I can look, but I'm unable to merge + update prod for it.
[16:48:01] <^demon>	 (That requires a root)
[16:51:34] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: supporting more property types, using value formatters, maybe qualifiers and more stuff :)
[16:52:04] <Denny_WMDE1>	 ^demon: thank you, that would be helpful. would dzahn be the right person to annoy with this?
[16:52:17] <^demon>	 Yeah probably.
[16:53:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Entity selector: Using user language when in MediaWiki context" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51646
[16:53:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i'll poke him in a bit
[16:53:13] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51646
[16:53:13] <aude>	 oooh, the apache patch looks nice 
[16:54:44] <aude>	 how would it work with something like de.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Forum ?
[16:54:52] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE1: ? DanielK_WMDE_ ?
[16:55:07] <aude>	 lazowik: 
[16:55:45] <Denny_WMDE1>	 aude: it wouldn't
[16:55:50] <aude>	 are you sure
[16:55:58] * aude  not expert at apache config

[16:56:20] <Denny_WMDE1>	 well, it would get you to www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/dewiki/Wikidata:Forum
[16:56:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53169
[16:56:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53168
[16:56:23] <^demon>	 %1wiki/$1
[16:56:26] <Denny_WMDE1>	 which would probably be an empty page
[16:56:35] <Denny_WMDE1>	 lazowik: you following the comments?
[16:56:40] <^demon>	 What's the %1 bit?
[16:56:44] <^demon>	 I get $1 :)
[16:57:04] <Denny_WMDE1>	 lazowik: ^
[16:57:14] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: re {{#property}}: yes, it should do all this, but not in this change! Let's not block on this. Let's get a minimal version deployed, even if it's still very stupid.
[16:57:22] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: sure :)
[16:57:25] <lazowik>	 one moment
[16:57:28] <lazowik>	 sorry
[16:57:36] * aude  not proud of our initial implementation but shall improve it

[16:57:43] <Denny_WMDE1>	 these URIs are merely there for convenience. the canonical URLs are still the www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1 ones
[16:57:51] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE1:  sure
[16:57:56] <Denny_WMDE1>	 en.wikidata.org/wiki/Universe would just be a redirect to that
[16:58:12] <aude>	 but would be nice if it could match only wiki page titles, say without a colon
[16:58:16] <aude>	 the main namespace
[16:58:18] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: re de.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Forum : the rewrite would work, it would get you to www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/dewiki/Wikidata:Forum
[16:58:26] <Denny_WMDE1>	 no, too smart.
[16:58:34] <Denny_WMDE1>	 there are valid wiki titles with a colon
[16:58:36] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 which would then tell you that it can't find an item for that, because no item has a dewiki link to Wikidata:Forum
[16:58:38] <aude>	 hmmm
[16:58:48] <Denny_WMDE1>	 as DanielK_WMDE_ says
[16:58:53] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_: oh nice
[16:59:13] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 well, it's consistent. which *I* find nice. It's not very convenient though
[16:59:22] <aude>	 errr
[16:59:58] <lazowik>	 ok
[17:00:01] <lazowik>	 I'm back
[17:00:09] <lazowik>	 checking
[17:00:09] <aude>	 i suppose it's better to take a first step and make the redirect work for items
[17:00:09] <lazowik>	 that was loong time ago
[17:00:54] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: it usually is, yes :)
[17:00:59] <aude>	 yep
[17:01:15] * aude  scratches head to figure out how to handle namespaces there

[17:01:20] <aude>	 later.....
[17:01:49] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 aude: there's no way to handle namespaces there, we'd need to know all aliases in all languages. not doable in apache config. 
[17:01:49] <Denny_WMDE1>	 I don't think we will handle them there ever. 
[17:02:00] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 we could hack evil magic into itembytitle, but i'd rather not
[17:02:05] <Denny_WMDE1>	 and I also don't think there is ever a need for that.
[17:02:09] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 yea, what Denny_WMDE1 said
[17:02:43] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Denny_WMDE1, Lydia_WMDE: i have to run out for that parent/teacher thing now, but I'll try to get the code for investigating the notification lag in tonight. or tomorrow during the conference.
[17:02:53] <aude>	 sure, for now at least
[17:02:54] <Denny_WMDE1>	 the only possibility I see is, in ItemByTitle, if an item was not found but there *is* a wikipage, show a message "Did you maybe mean [[Wikidata:Forum]]?"
[17:02:57] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 it's just a few calls to wfDebug
[17:03:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE_: thanks! have fun
[17:03:16] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Denny_WMDE1: yes, that would be a possibility.
[17:03:25] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Lydia_WMDE: fun. grmbl
[17:03:34] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[17:03:40] <aude>	 the language subdomains are used in interwiki linking apparently
[17:04:12] <aude>	 e.g. [[d:Wikidata:Forum]] from dewiki would take you to de.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Forum
[17:04:12] <AsimovBot>	 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Forum
[17:04:27] * aude  checks but think that's true

[17:04:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no
[17:04:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that was changed a few days ago
[17:04:50] <Lydia_WMDE>	 d: now always uses www
[17:04:57] <Denny_WMDE1>	 good
[17:05:13] <aude>	 no, it looks fixed :)
[17:07:54] <JeroenDeDauw>	 panic
[17:08:21] * Lydia_WMDE  hands JeroenDeDauw a cookie and a kitten to counter the panic

[17:08:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[17:09:03] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: so if you people are panicked I get cookies? Great, I know what to do then
[17:09:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lol
[17:09:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 noooooo
[17:09:46] * aude  does not know if we still need https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49069/

[17:10:04] <aude>	 are people still getting to wikidata.org (w/o the wwww)?
[17:10:37] <aude>	 www
[17:10:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52876
[17:11:59] <Denny_WMDE1>	 aude, yes they are, just tried it out :(
[17:12:06] <aude>	 oh
[17:12:07] <aude>	 ok
[17:12:21] * aude  restored my patch

[17:13:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43998) initial implementation of property parser hook [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[17:14:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43998) initial implementation of property parser hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46686
[17:21:43] <jeremyb_>	 who's coming to NY? when?
[17:22:20] <lazowik>	 oh and if someone wants to play with rules
[17:22:25] <lazowik>	 this might help: http://htaccess.madewithlove.be/
[17:26:45] * aude  not coming

[17:27:07] <aude>	 lazowik: cool :)
[17:33:37] <jeremyb_>	 aude: :(
[17:33:56] <jeremyb_>	 aude: out of all of WMDE you probably know the venue the best! :P
[17:34:09] <lazowik>	 DanielK_WMDE_: Denny_WMDE1: aude: responded on gerrit and there is another possible problem
[17:34:41] <lazowik>	 that actually forces us to use language subdomains _only_ for itembytitle
[17:34:57] <lazowik>	 de.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1
[17:35:43] <lazowik>	 Do you want Q1 (Uniwerse) or Q165472 (Q1)
[17:35:45] <lazowik>	 ?
[17:37:25] <lazowik>	 and also http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/enwiki/Help:Contents
[17:37:28] <lazowik>	 and so on
[17:40:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45037) show edit link only if we have repo links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179
[17:40:37] <aude>	 lazowik: hmmmm
[17:41:13] <aude>	 i don't know enough about apache config to really comment, at least without experimenting
[17:41:33] <lazowik>	 but apart from anything
[17:42:15] <lazowik>	 you cannot know whether user wants http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q914807 or http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Contents
[17:42:44] <lazowik>	 the only sure namespace is Wikidata:
[17:42:48] <aude>	 oh, that could be weird
[17:43:14] <lazowik>	 and that is not hard to handle it by ItemByTitle
[17:43:20] <aude>	 right
[17:43:43] <aude>	 there's a lot of "routing" magic that happens within WMF's mediawiki config stuff with php
[17:43:54] <aude>	 it's kind of evil but works and i guess there is a reason
[17:44:02] <Platonides>	 are wikidata devs here?
[17:44:09] * aude  doesn't know the best answer here

[17:44:11] <aude>	 Platonides: ?
[17:44:48] <Platonides>	 aude, I just wanted to ask what's the right way to go from a Title to its text, now
[17:45:18] <Platonides>	 but people editing http://www.wikidata.org/ won't know
[17:45:33] <aude>	 title where?
[17:45:51] <Platonides>	 a mediawiki Title object
[17:46:09] <aude>	 ok, and which text? the entire page?
[17:46:14] <Platonides>	 yes
[17:46:30] <aude>	 the entire page is essentially stored as json (in a blob)
[17:46:35] <aude>	 same place wikitext pages are stored
[17:46:41] <Platonides>	 it would supposedly be in the MediaWiki ns
[17:46:53] <aude>	 ?
[17:47:09] <aude>	 mediawiki namespace pages should be exactly same as on other wikis
[17:47:38] <Platonides>	 I'm refering to the ContentHandler changes
[17:48:13] <aude>	 oh, but should be same way, regardless of content type 
[17:48:17] <aude>	 including wikitext
[17:48:25] <aude>	 there are some deprecated methods in core but still work
[17:49:03] <aude>	 $revision->getContent()
[17:49:10] <aude>	 instead of $revision->getText()
[17:49:15] <aude>	 for example
[17:49:21] <aude>	 but the old one still works
[17:50:27] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE_ probably knows more details if you need it
[17:52:49] <Platonides>	 and what should I call from the content, getNativeData() ?
[17:53:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45037) show edit link only if we have repo links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51179
[17:53:23] <aude>	 let me check
[17:53:56] <Platonides>	 hmm... probably ContentHandler::getContentText($content)
[17:54:18] <aude>	 Platonides: either way would probably work
[17:54:58] <Platonides>	 but I don't like that it could throw an exception :s
[17:55:58] <aude>	 the getContentText() obviously would not work so nice if you actually want a json object
[17:56:10] <aude>	 if that's the content type, but should be ok for wikitext
[17:56:37] <aude>	 well, ideal would be to handle the exception if it happens
[17:58:14] <Platonides>	 ok, I think I have this
[17:59:13] <aude>	 good
[17:59:59] <Base-w>	 hi
[18:03:43] <anskar>	 hi, friends ;) 
[18:05:15] <anskar>	 Somebody can say me where is a HOWTO to put references in properties?
[18:07:03] <Base-w>	 is user:Snaevar here?
[21:22:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 45984) Logging for change notification lag." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53274
[22:49:19] <lbenedix>	 installing wikibase extension results in an error: Database returned error "1054: Unknown column 'page_content_model' in 'where clause' (localhost)" in final un of update.php
[22:50:21] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Sounds like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgContentHandlerUseDB is false
[23:25:32] <lbenedix>	 i took the example setting, which worked once
[23:35:40] <lbenedix>	 new try, new error: PHP Fatal error:  Class 'SiteSQLStore' not found in /var/www/virtual/lbenedix/html/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/lib/includes/Utils.php on line 145
[23:35:49] <lbenedix>	 when running php extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/populateSitesTable.php
[23:38:45] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Is your core up to date? Probably not, get a current version, please
[23:39:45] <lbenedix>	 i installed 1.20.3
[23:40:05] <hoo>	 Wikibase needs 1.21
[23:40:11] <lbenedix>	 gnahh...
[23:40:21] <lbenedix>	 Extension:Wikibase sais: MediaWiki 1.20 or above
[23:40:26] <hoo>	 A version not older than maybe 3 months
[23:42:04] <lbenedix>	 cloning mediawiki takes hours....
[23:42:24] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Depending on your connection
[23:42:45] <lbenedix>	 not only...
[23:42:47] <hoo>	 There are snapshots of the master somewhere, let me look
[23:42:52] <lbenedix>	 thanks
[23:47:24] <hoo>	 lbenedix: Took me some google effort: https://toolserver.org/~krinkle/mwSnapshots/#!/mediawiki-core/master ;)
[23:51:59] <lbenedix>	 yay