[00:00:41] finalsnak is a string before [00:01:00] i must use dumps on snak [00:01:10] ok [00:10:06] It worked [00:10:13] I'm going to commit the code [00:10:22] I am f**** [00:14:38] done [00:19:38] :-) [01:12:37] legoktm: are you there? [03:18:23] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [03:21:47] New review: Aude; "the submit button is disabled for me???" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53606 [03:42:53] New review: Aude; "(7 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [03:43:38] New review: Aude; "ugh, why can't I cut & paste stack trace into comments without it munging the formatting?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [04:25:31] heh [04:25:40] aude: just use a pastebin :P [04:32:08] legoktm: yes but cut & paste used to work :/ [04:32:40] :( [07:56:19] New review: Hoo man; "Needs (manual) rebasing... I'll do that as soon as I can get hold of a PC (writting from android)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53606 [09:12:13] hi [09:12:20] you cant link iw to redirect? [09:12:32] well [09:12:39] its not really encouraged [09:12:44] whats the reason to do so? [09:27:09] addwork: Addbot keeps working in es.wiki without updating the summaries from Meta [09:27:09] New review: Henning Snater; "Works for me." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53382 [09:27:43] jem-: its not instantaneous [09:27:47] he has to update it manually [09:28:21] I supposed so [09:28:31] But I updated it several days ago :) [09:28:58] I thought he would check from time to time, anyway [09:29:59] hmm [09:30:02] just poke him harder [09:30:06] * legoktm pokes addwork  [09:30:08] :P [09:30:09] legoktm: well the reason is to do that and than change redir to article [09:30:31] Juandev: i dont follow...? [09:30:55] lego no problem, I dont need it [09:31:08] ok :) [09:31:18] it is probably not semantic way how to create an article from redir [09:42:12] Denny_WMDE : Abraham_WMDE when is the wmf12 deadline today? [09:43:30] let us aim for 4pm? [09:43:41] berlin time, just to be clear [09:44:26] ok [09:48:27] Tobi_WMDE: AnjaJ_WMDE can you look at selenium tests in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/53414/ [09:48:47] if the tests are okay, then it's ready to merge [09:48:49] I'm on it [09:48:53] thanks [09:50:13] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(hot fix) fix of two obvious mistakes in jQuery.wikibase.snaklistview" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54313 [09:51:30] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54313 [09:53:01] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54021 [09:58:11] New review: John Erling Blad; "It would be nice to have clearer divisions, but it is slightly outside project scope I think." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54017 [09:58:13] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54017 [10:00:49] aude: having one failure in hoo's tests, will investigate [10:02:33] :( [10:03:04] New review: Aude; "I purged my changes table and don't get the error now. Could be test data or something there...." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [10:25:32] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53784 [10:26:37] New review: Hoo man; "Core change has been merged. \o/" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54147 [10:32:43] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(testing) selenium tests for multiline references" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53382 [10:36:52] New review: Aude; "I do not see label changes but do see claim changes listed in the client. " [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [10:53:05] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(testing) selenium tests for multiline references" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53382 [10:55:08] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 45568) propagate claim and label changes [DNM]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [10:58:42] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Initializing referenceview "add" toolbar via toolbar controller" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54347 [10:59:26] New review: Aude; "I see the label change in the recent changes table and seems to appear now. Don't know why I didn'..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [11:07:51] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@aude: fixed the robustness issue in PS7, will investigate missing label changes and failing tests now." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [11:11:32] New review: John Erling Blad; "In general looks good to me, but the update of page props fails for purge, it only works after a nul..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53543 [11:14:10] New review: John Erling Blad; "Note that this is tested both with memcached turned on and off." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53543 [11:20:07] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 45568) propagate claim and label changes [DNM]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [11:21:46] New review: Aude; "decision with DanielK was not to do links update here." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53543 [11:23:03] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Finally make wbclient.linkItem non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53606 [11:29:15] I didn't get my random asian last week... [11:30:06] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Finally make wbclient.linkItem non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53606 [11:31:15] so... anyone up for lunch? [11:31:51] New review: Aude; "Tests pass and I see label/claim changes. I tried various change types like deleting and restoring p..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [11:32:11] Tobi_WMDE: all https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/53991/ needs is selenium tests run [11:32:28] DanielK_WMDE: something quickish would be good [11:33:51] Hi. [11:33:56] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q492468 [11:34:00] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q492468&diff=prev&oldid=13246651 [11:34:15] The page was not in my watchlist after that. [11:34:20] (edit lost) [11:34:30] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "...to clarify: titles with underscores do not work as expected when entered into the form." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [11:34:31] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53606 [11:34:37] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q492468&action=history shows the edit [11:34:57] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q492468&diff=13246651&oldid=13131541 works [11:35:11] the diff=prev doesn't [11:35:19] aude: yea, that would be hole-in-the-wall-asian :) [11:35:25] heh [11:35:32] AVRS: fixed in the next deployment [11:35:35] aude: thx [11:36:35] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44683) Implementing missing equals() and toJSON() methods" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53325 [11:36:43] DanielK_WMDE: yeah in a bit [11:37:41] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Performance improvement for JS Statement.equals" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54312 [11:38:16] Also, I couldn't find the page with search [11:39:09] "Россияне", "россияне", "rusianoj", "Rusianoj" don't find it. [11:41:02] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(testing) selenium tests for multiline references" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53382 [11:43:16] AVRS: yeah the search doesn't deal well with these characters atm :/ [11:43:18] we're working on it [11:43:59] Lydia_WMDE: but Esperanto "Rusianoj" doesn't work either. Maybe it's too new though. [11:48:12] New review: Henning Snater; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54312 [11:49:04] wikidata is kind of broken in konqueror [11:50:47] this is what it looks like after clicking edit: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eawcos1m1285o47/konqueror%204.9.5.PNG [11:51:30] the langlinks are okay [11:53:41] New review: John Erling Blad; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [11:54:45] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53382 [11:56:42] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [12:00:15] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [12:02:03] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Initializing referenceview "add" toolbar via toolbar controller" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54347 [12:05:20] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44683) GuidGenerator JavaScript implementation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53545 [12:22:09] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Show/hide the wikibase watchlist entries server side" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53414 [12:22:51] aude: tests in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/53414/ are fine now. [12:24:52] New review: Nikerabbit; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53606 [12:28:49] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44683) GuidGenerator JavaScript implementation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53545 [12:35:21] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44683) Making use of setClaim API module in JavaScript UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53734 [12:36:46] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Existing Selenium tests for change propagation passing. There are no Selenium tests yet to actually ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [12:37:16] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44536, Bug 44968) Use SiteLink instead of Title" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [12:37:34] aude: and I'm fine with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/53991/ [12:51:00] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44683) Making use of setClaim API module in JavaScript UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53734 [13:02:55] A bit more snow back home than here in Berlin.. http://gfx.nrk.no/RxU4LY9ryNOcStUPFD6gRQqAr2rua2JlMypeWzUJVRfQ.jpg [13:03:46] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 45568) propagate claim and label changes" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [13:09:24] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Changes to the label or claims always show up in RecentChanges and Watchlist on the client as "wikib..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [13:09:44] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "on every page view:" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53543 [13:13:28] addwork: Around? [13:18:45] Jeblad_WMDE: Wow! Looks quite white! [13:19:11] * Silke_WMDE is rebooting dev [13:20:25] Silke_WMDE: I think its the belt-driven dumper .. its rather large. [13:20:36] Its also quite old [13:20:58] I think it was built in Germany in the early 50s [13:21:03] So we could just call our weather "spring" - in comparison [13:21:12] *duck* [13:21:26] Authum. [13:21:41] Hlaf a year of authum. And then its summer again. [13:22:05] I had more snow in the summer back home than the whole winther here [13:22:36] can someone give me some browser statistics on wikidata.org? [13:22:57] something like this, but for wikidata.org: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm [13:23:48] DanielK_WMDE: aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46185 <- someone we can assign this to in ops? [13:23:56] btw: Safari is only found as Safari 0.0 [13:29:24] Lydia_WMDE: Reedy can run it [13:32:08] Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46185 <- something for you :) [13:35:49] Lydia_WMDE, Reedy: there's one caution on this one: it doesn't wait for slaves to cacth up between batches. [13:35:57] not sure how bad that is. [13:36:03] could add it later today [13:36:14] but if it's not bad - just run it :) [13:40:02] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45037) show edit link only if we have repo links" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53543 [13:43:04] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53414 [13:46:40] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "who'll write the selenium tests? :P" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [13:51:08] New patchset: Aude; "Use the watchlist options given by the hook" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54147 [14:01:37] New review: Aude; "patchset 2 rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54147 [14:02:39] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49066 [14:05:22] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(8 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:05:30] #wikimedia [14:05:33] ah [14:16:41] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53543 [14:18:10] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@tobias: yes, as soon as the repo actually supplies edit summaries for these, and we have consolidat..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [14:18:59] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(testing) Selenium tests for client inclusion syntax" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54445 [14:20:31] New review: Aude; "(6 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:21:37] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54147 [14:29:26] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:29:37] New review: Aude; "patchset 8 rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:42:41] New review: John Erling Blad; "(7 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52796 [14:44:53] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44876) Add toc to EntityView" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52796 [14:45:37] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(testing) waiting in Selenium tests for propagation of removed sitelinks" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54467 [14:47:11] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Fatal error: Call to undefined method Wikibase\PropertySomeValueSnak::getDataValue() in /DATA/var/ww..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:49:06] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "...same issue with NoValueSnak." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [14:50:18] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44876) Add toc to EntityView" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52796 [14:59:33] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54467 [15:00:22] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "dv.util.inherit changed so __proto__ of related objects displays a proper name" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50753 [15:01:15] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "dv.util.inherit changed so __proto__ of related objects displays a proper name" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50753 [15:02:06] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "dv.util.inherit changed so __proto__ of related objects displays a proper name" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50753 [15:16:44] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53991 [15:18:21] Change merged: Anja Jentzsch; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54445 [15:23:49] hey can someone tell me how i get more then 50 items with an api requests if i have a botflag? do i need a edittoken? [15:30:04] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(#46124) Restrict getEntity to connected entity only" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54471 [15:30:20] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make tests more robust against config." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54472 [15:30:41] so, I'm having a weird thing - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q838746 [15:31:21] How on earth have I managed to add the same statement twice? ;) [15:33:06] hm there seems to be no checking [15:33:19] i could add the same statment too [15:34:30] okay, rolled it back to version where there is only one statement [15:38:47] maybe you should fill in a bugreport [15:45:32] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(11 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54471 [15:49:21] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aude/Git#When_were_the_branches_last_modified.3F [15:49:27] will *not* work in windows, though [15:49:33] git for-each-ref --sort=-committerdate refs/heads/ [15:50:05] ah, cool [15:50:21] there might be variations of that [15:50:30] not as pretty as mine, but good to know [15:50:46] * tommorris will file that bug later [15:50:54] * tommorris is on a machine without his Bugzilla password [15:51:32] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Introducing removetoolbar widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54475 [15:51:55] New patchset: Anja Jentzsch; "(Bug 42063, 44577) Special:EntityData supports RDF output" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164 [15:53:04] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54472 [15:57:59] New review: Jens Ohlig; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54471 [16:03:29] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [16:05:08] New patchset: Aude; "Second iteration of property parser function [WIP]" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54220 [16:11:04] wikidatawiki to 1.21wmf12 on Wednesday? [16:12:03] Reedy: wikidata only [16:12:40] only? [16:12:49] Denny_WMDE: ^ [16:13:06] the client is a bit rough and not sure it's ready for test2 [16:13:28] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "(#46124) Restrict getEntity to connected entity only" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54471 [16:13:31] (but I think would not break anything) [16:13:43] Reedy: yes, only wikidatawiki [16:14:26] test2 client code does not need to be updated yet. we are still missing two features [16:14:33] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Prevent type errors on unexpected diff types in changes." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54479 [16:14:33] Right [16:14:38] That's what I was just trying to confirm [16:14:39] Thanks [16:14:40] not 100% if they will be ready by wednesday, though i would hope so [16:14:53] but for now we say: no test2 update for us [16:14:54] * aude hopes and thinks so [16:14:57] but can't say [16:15:51] probably chris would like to do a quick security review of the new client features [16:20:31] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removed remaining toolbar references from snaklistview widget" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54482 [16:52:29] aude: around? [16:53:06] New review: Bene; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [17:01:05] New patchset: Bene; "(bug 43870) new Special:SetSiteLink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [17:10:21] * Moe_Epsilon waves [17:39:03] addwork: Around? [18:24:10] Lydia_WMDE: I would suggest a ban for dbalieiro, he's been joining to all wikimedia channel without a purpose, other than probably the spam in his quit message [18:24:33] We have banned him from all wikipedia-es channels already [19:55:00] Sk1d: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46293 - filed! [20:09:33] tommorris: :) [20:52:43] aude: Ping [21:00:15] Well, my fault... I was wrong about which version actually runs on test2 atm :P [22:56:39] Hello, I was just wondering how we should handle maiden names. Should I just add it as an alias, or is there a property I can add? [22:59:24] !admin [22:59:41] hi [22:59:51] that stalkword is not for technical questions... [23:00:18] Ah, sorry. It's my first time here. Where should I ask technical questions? [23:00:27] you can ask them here [23:00:39] aliases should be fine for that [23:00:52] Oh, ok. Thanks!