[02:51:42] How will Wikidata represent time? Will there be a datatypes for 'date', 'time', etc.? [02:52:23] * legoktm looks [02:52:38] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times [03:21:41] legoktm: Thanks! [03:21:47] np [03:26:57] How would dates from geologic periods like the beginning of the Cretaceous be represented with that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous [03:28:03] o.O [03:28:22] -145,000,000 as the year maybe? [04:38:41] * Moe_Epsilon felt lonely at RFD today [04:39:34] :( [04:41:25] Moe_Epsilon: indeed [04:41:50] I was inactive today, too :P [04:43:11] ahh :p well i handled most of the requests, for the better part of nine hours xD [04:43:52] * Moe_Epsilon has been slacking though, so he got some good hours in [04:50:02] legoktm: your friend huh is runnning for metawiki adminship :p [04:50:08] o.O [04:50:11] * legoktm looks [04:50:11] (nominated by MF-W) [04:50:55] hey, Vogone, this is a publicly logged channel! [04:51:01] yippe [04:51:02] xD [04:51:10] canvassing! [04:51:13] * Jasper_Deng_busy would hate to see accusations of canvassing when it wasn't PiRSquared's fault [04:51:35] meh [04:51:40] Vogone just made my vote come faster [04:51:49] i check that page about once a week [04:53:06] Jasper_Deng_busy: nobody will notice :p (at least I hope so :p) [04:53:36] i want to create a stalker bot that stalks RFA everywhere [04:53:37] Vogone, legoktm: in other news, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Global_AbuseFilter#.22No_more_than_a_day_without_actions.22 [04:55:15] Jasper_Deng_busy: everything is said [04:58:17] or shall I write something like "Agreed PiRSquared17's agreement"? :P [05:00:14] * Moe_Epsilon logs for blackmails [05:00:16] oh wait.. [05:00:20] * Moe_Epsilon disappears [05:00:42] bye, Moe_Epsilon :) [05:01:19] :) [05:01:54] how is Moe pronounced? like in Dutch? [05:02:05] or like in German? [05:04:14] just like the name of anyone else named Moe I suppose [05:05:43] like [[Moe Szyslak]] or [[Moe Howard]] :p [05:05:43] 10[6] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Moe_Szyslak13 => [05:05:45] 10[7] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Moe_Howard [05:06:00] (though there is no inspiration from others for the name) [05:07:49] xD [05:08:44] I mean, I'd rather my user name be my real name, but I've made so many edits, I'm stuck with it xD [05:09:17] not true [05:09:23] you cant get renamed still [05:09:26] Moe_Epsilon: ^ [05:09:29] can* [05:09:56] Dutch would be muh and German would be mö :P [05:09:59] it's a messy affair [05:09:59] legoktm: ? [05:10:16] yeah, apparently after a certain edit count they don't want to [05:10:19] well [05:10:28] Moe_Epsilon: you just need to find a willing crat/stew [05:10:28] I didn't try to ask but I figured I shouldn't [05:10:44] :< [05:10:52] * Moe_Epsilon looks around [05:11:02] DerHexer has a script for renaming globally [05:11:05] i have an account on every WMF wiki [05:11:10] no renames for me [05:11:12] +1 [05:11:38] yeah, I have a username and userpage for every WMF wiki too, seems like a lot of work or me [05:11:40] for* [05:12:07] probably best to wait until global renaming becomes possible [05:12:41] rschen7754: but they still want to limit the global edit count [05:12:48] :/ [05:12:53] 96,000 is probably over that :( [05:12:53] I have 120,000 global edits [05:12:59] yep [05:13:19] :< [05:13:22] it's really only enwiki that's large though… 81,000 [05:13:44] then rename on enwiki locally :P [05:15:06] well, 6 AM now [05:15:14] bye :) [05:15:16] hm i suppose i could rename locally then get a global rename :P [05:15:20] later! [05:15:29] of course [06:11:07] New review: Nikerabbit; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55886 [08:27:23] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55893 [08:33:05] what does the warning [08:33:06] {u'messages': {u'0': {u'type': u'warning', u'name': u'wikibase-conflict-patched'}, u'html': {u'*': u'

Your edit was patched into the latest version.\n

'}}} [08:33:07] mean? [08:33:20] i keep getting them randomly when adding claims [08:33:26] well my bot is [08:33:33] and pywikipedia cant handle them correctly... [08:44:51] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55881 [08:46:42] * legoktm wonders if Henning_WMDE knows? [08:50:40] legoktm: I do not in detail. It has to do with edit conflict detection. I will have a quick look into the code. [08:51:21] ah that would be reasonable [08:52:45] I think what is being performed is an edit on an "outdated" revision and since there is no edit conflict, the change is patched into the latest revision. [08:53:11] gotcha, thanks [08:53:18] You're welcome. [08:53:25] :) [09:03:04] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Performance improvement for JS Statement.equals" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54312 [09:04:21] New review: Henning Snater; "Rebasing resolved error of patch set 2 by having applied change Ied01e553d16dd0b161fa97ea25d33d9f4ef..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54312 [09:04:21] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54312 [09:21:08] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "You can use setClaim API to add some.. Or just checkout Henning's UI work on qualifiers.. :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55863 [10:21:01] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55887 [10:27:43] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55896 [10:29:47] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Rename TermCache to TermIndex." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55601 [10:30:30] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "rebased. the fatal error was an artifact of automated merging." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55601 [10:30:44] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Better tests for TermIndex (DNM/WIP)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55607 [10:30:49] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Move TermIndex to lib." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55897 [10:42:16] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55601 [10:48:10] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Move SpecialPageTestBase from repo" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56120 [10:48:31] Quick fix https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56120 [10:48:46] DanielK_WMDE: You merge [10:53:29] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56120 [11:00:51] legoktm: Around? [11:00:56] hi [11:01:18] Hi :) [11:01:34] legoktm: Have you had any problem in es.wiki? [11:01:39] no [11:01:44] my bot is stopped everywhere [11:01:44] Your bot stopped the interwiki moving several days ago [11:01:47] Oh [11:01:55] yeah theres a bug with edit conflicts [11:02:12] it wasnt catching them so it was overriting edits [11:02:19] and i havent had the chance to fix it yet [11:02:28] Ok then [11:02:55] I hope addshore's bot hasn't the same code and problem [11:02:56] hopefully i can fix it by the end of the week once midterms are over [11:03:01] no, he has different code [11:03:05] Ok [11:07:05] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 46597) avoid namespace checker error, check variable type" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56122 [11:09:11] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 46597) avoid namespace checker error, check variable type" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56122 [11:11:09] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55897 [11:11:26] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52796 [11:29:01] New review: John Erling Blad; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52796 [11:35:26] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(bug 46597) avoid namespace checker error, check variable type" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56122 [11:38:29] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Add profiling to dispatchChanges script." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56127 [11:41:33] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Move formatter stuff out of property parser function class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55515 [11:44:28] jem-: my code should be fine ;p :) [11:49:34] New review: John Erling Blad; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55515 [11:56:25] New review: John Erling Blad; "We can't really use these namespaces in a nice way now, so we simply keep them for later." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55492 [11:56:25] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55492 [11:58:03] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "More profiling in ChangeHandler" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56131 [12:01:13] New review: John Erling Blad; "This gives a failing test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56127 [12:01:14] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56127 [12:04:44] New patchset: Aude; "Move formatter stuff out of property parser function class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55515 [12:07:36] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Fix a test that keeps on creeping back" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56133 [12:07:57] aude: it, he, hu, ru, tr, uk, uz, hr, bs, sr, sh [12:08:14] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(hotfix) Preventing default event handling when stopping snakview edit mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56134 [12:08:39] thanks! [12:10:27] New review: John Erling Blad; "Self-merge to get rid of the failing test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56133 [12:10:28] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56133 [12:10:32] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 46565) Don't prune undispatched changes." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56135 [12:10:32] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix misleading output of Special:DispatchStats." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56136 [12:10:32] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Add profiling to dispatchChanges script." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56137 [12:12:05] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving backport" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56135 [12:12:06] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56135 [12:12:49] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving backport" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56136 [12:12:50] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56136 [12:13:16] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving backport" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56137 [12:13:17] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56137 [12:17:08] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56131 [12:23:27] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55515 [12:26:47] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56122 [12:29:35] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56134 [12:30:22] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44683) Implementing qualifiers in the JavaScript UI" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55545 [12:30:55] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(hotfix) Preventing default event handling when stopping snakview edit mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56141 [12:31:15] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56141 [12:34:13] Good, addshore :) [12:36:26] New patchset: Henning Snater; "claimlistview widget _insertClaimRow optimization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56142 [12:36:44] hello all. [12:36:53] where do I report a problem with Wikidata? [12:37:32] As in the links not displaying correctly? [12:38:18] hello Thehelpfulone [12:38:47] !admin any ideas about the "in other languages" section of http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape ? [12:38:58] hi [12:39:04] lemme see [12:39:15] umm [12:39:19] that doesnt have a wikidata item? [12:39:31] should it? [12:39:42] eptalon: what should it be linking to? [12:39:46] it does have an enwp article [12:39:52] link it from here: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1135287 [12:40:07] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1135287 [12:40:10] right [12:40:13] eptalon: easiest way: click on "edit links" in enwp [12:40:14] so you need to add the link [12:40:17] and then you can add simple there [12:40:26] you want to do it, eptalon ? [12:40:35] what denny said :) [12:43:32] eptalon: didn't work out? [12:47:41] Denny_WMDE1: that was not the prolem. [12:48:33] the problem is that iff there iare nolinks to wikidata, it should display a message, and not just ">0<" [12:49:02] oh. it does not do that for me. [12:49:15] can you send me a screenshot of that? [12:49:41] Denny_WMDE1: where to? [12:49:45] for me it doesn't display anything there, right now, just as if there are no sitelinks [12:49:56] either upload somewhere or per email to denny.vrandecic@wikimedia.de [12:52:35] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "(Bug 44940) Add fragment to sitelink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52799 [12:54:32] Denny_WMDE1: sent you a png. section is highlighted [12:54:36] thx [12:54:47] got it? [12:56:16] yes thx [12:56:23] it is weird, I cannot reproduce it [12:56:27] i switched also to MonoBook [12:56:31] but do not get that message [12:57:02] does wikidata need javascript? [12:57:06] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53545 [12:57:21] yes, wikidata itself does. but the wikipedias should not. [12:57:35] i will try switching off js on wikipedia to see if it replicates [12:57:51] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53734 [12:58:08] yep [12:58:13] repeatable [12:58:24] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55543 [12:58:29] thanks for reporting [12:58:45] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55544 [12:59:07] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55545 [12:59:20] we will fix it [12:59:29] Henning_WMDE: \o/ [12:59:29] if you open a bug, do I get a copy of its nuber? [13:00:01] Denny_WMDE1: In my opinion, client side display should be independent of javascript... [13:00:14] i agree [13:00:38] i am first checking if this is gone in the newest version anyway [13:00:39] you render the thing server side. [13:01:15] just for reference browser used is FF19, on Windows [13:02:49] Ok, have fun. [13:04:21] thx, just checked. there is no weird message in the newest version [13:04:29] and this is planned to be deployed tonight [13:04:47] so tomorrow the <0> message should be gone [13:12:18] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Btw. it's possible to test it now.." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55863 [13:13:53] New patchset: Henning Snater; "claimlistview widget _insertClaimRow optimization" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56142 [13:24:43] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56142 [13:37:33] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Fix clock ticks in test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56152 [13:49:21] New patchset: Aude; "Implement autosummaries for add and remove claims" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55540 [13:54:02] A simple patch, nearly a one-liner, anyone? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56152/ [13:54:38] Denny_WMDE1: ^you merge? =D [13:54:58] Heiselbug [13:56:16] jeblad: just curios: this only allows for a difference of a single tick. is this delta sufficient? [13:56:37] i would have assumed a bit bigger value would be needed — but does it fix your issue? [13:56:41] Yes it should be .. unless something weird going on [13:57:16] I'm not even sure we will see the bug very often, or anymore at all, even if we don't fix it [13:57:57] We can set the value to something bigger, it shouldn't really matter.. [13:58:52] "Failed asserting that 7391894 matches expected 7391893." [13:59:01] code-reviewed it. one way or the other, it makes it a bit more robust [13:59:09] if you are going to change it i would suggest: [14:00:01] 1. increase the delta to a bit more, 2. put brackets around the time() - (int)timestamp() (not necessary code wise, but makes semantics clearer for human reader) [14:00:06] if you don't change it, just merge it [14:00:51] New review: Denny Vrandecic; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56152 [14:02:17] You're right, it can be bigger [14:02:44] It will depend on how much is done in the test [14:12:15] New review: John Erling Blad; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56152 [14:13:22] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55540 [14:14:17] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Fix clock ticks in test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56152 [14:14:51] Change merged: John Erling Blad; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56152 [14:15:32] hi [14:21:27] New review: Aude; "this works nicely" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55863 [14:21:28] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55863 [14:21:28] hi [14:21:36] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "doesn't do much until we have the section IDs in the output, but doesn't hurt to merge it." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52799 [14:21:36] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52799 [14:22:12] is there a list of excellent example items? [14:22:32] like: "what should a country entry look like" [14:22:54] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Make setClaim non-experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56160 [14:24:54] Schisma: I like this one http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q159 [14:25:08] I don't know if it is excellent, though, but it is pretty good [14:25:15] in my opinion [14:26:33] was just an example. i think there should be a list [14:28:56] Schisma_: bring it up on the project chat? :) [14:29:01] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56160 [14:29:02] such a page does not exist yet [14:29:10] aude: I decided now to convert linkItem into a jQuery widget, like entityview, sounds like the sanest we can do [14:29:18] hoo: sounds good [14:29:51] Tobi_WMDE: you have a comment on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56160/ [14:29:56] not a blocker but just curious [14:30:34] also appears need re ase [14:30:36] rebase [14:31:43] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56160 [14:42:43] is it possible to reference a geographical object to an openstreetmap object? [14:43:30] Schisma_: no idea if the property exists, but perhaps provide the osm object id? [14:44:19] there was discussion of vice versa and having a wikidata tag in osm (with the Q id) [14:45:38] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(minor) formatting/cleanup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56163 [14:47:22] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56163 [15:09:57] aude: I don't need to check whether the user is logged into the client in linkitem anymore, do I? [15:10:04] (Not even for sanity?) [15:41:45] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 46597) avoid namespace checker error, check variable type" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56167 [15:42:08] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56167 [15:49:18] hoo: not anymore [15:49:37] :) [16:14:27] Reedy and folks: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56165/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56169/ (FYI) [16:14:33] for later when ready for deployment [16:14:42] * aude going home and back in ~hour [17:37:25] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Change DataValue serialization of EntityId to use prefixed id" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56183 [18:04:33] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Change DataValue serialization of EntityId to use prefixed id" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56183 [18:18:34] DanielK_WMDE: Danwe: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikispecial/EN/draft/TablesWikipediaWIKIDATA.htm [18:30:46] hey, am I late? [18:31:15] everything is being switched wmf12 now [18:31:36] then i think Reedy can update wikibase (with our latest patches) and then enable data transclusion [18:31:45] Yeah [18:31:47] btw, i see (diff | cron) . . Il buio oltre la siepe (film) (Q177922); 19:01 . . Aude (Discussione | contributi) (3 modifiche) [18:31:51] in my itwiki watchlist [18:31:56] from March 25 [18:32:08] from march 26: [18:32:09] (diff | cron) . . Barack Obama (Q76); 17:47 . . 5.70.107.232 (Discussione) (Collegamento linguistico modificato da tt:Baraq Husseyın Obama II a tt:Барак Обама) [18:32:22] stuff is appearing :) [18:33:20] DanielK_WMDE: ^ [18:33:42] * aude sees stuff in my enwiki watchlist also from yesterday [18:35:28] yay, we are catching up :) [18:36:53] \o/ [18:37:00] sweet [18:37:11] still a lot of lag, but it's coming down slowly. [18:37:15] yeah [18:37:37] about 10k per hour. [18:38:02] so, in about two days, the backlog should be gone. [18:38:30] much better [18:38:44] and with more time before pruning [18:39:02] what's the statspage for lag? [18:39:25] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:DispatchStats [18:39:33] ack, it needs localisation cache update again [18:39:35] Reedy: ^ [18:39:53] aude: 18:39 <+logmsgbot> !log reedy synchronized php-1.21wmf12/extensions/Wikibase [18:40:00] \o/ [18:40:02] heh [18:40:10] Yeah, I'll do that last as usual ;) [18:41:32] it currently goes down at a speed of 10k per hour [18:41:40] Graphs? [18:41:41] :D [18:41:54] not yet, nothing gathering the data as far as i know :) [18:41:55] Almost something that could go in Ganglia... [18:41:55] Reedy: would be nice :) [18:42:00] yep [18:42:42] now for data transclusion.... [18:42:43] I am right now just gathering a bit data locally, to get a feeling for it [18:42:49] * aude queues my edit [18:42:50] the big 'un [18:43:27] ahhhhh [18:43:28] guys [18:43:31] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_buio_oltre_la_siepe_(film) [18:43:33] i am not quite ready yet :D [18:43:36] it works [18:43:42] RegiaRobert Mulligan [18:44:19] it was quick to save [18:44:28] Should be good [18:44:35] yeah [18:44:45] let us know if you see anything in the logs that we should know about [18:44:53] but seems fine to me [18:45:05] wohoo [18:45:13] * aude will revert and let the itwiki community decide how to use the properties [18:45:47] https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Il_buio_oltre_la_siepe_%28film%29&diff=57875762&oldid=57875730 [18:45:57] only if i could write in italian [18:46:08] aude: nice article choise, btw.. :-) [18:46:11] heh [18:46:17] * aude working on the movies :D [18:46:37] that was one we had in the pubquiz last time, remember? [18:46:41] yep [18:46:47] :-) [18:49:29] uhm. now, that's it? :) [18:50:24] no broken caches or something? [18:51:17] aude, Reedy: i see missing system messages [18:51:21] on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:DispatchStats [18:51:33] wikibase-dispatchstats-pos and wikibase-dispatchstats-touched [18:52:20] Lydia_WMDE: we now have the actual lag on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:DispatchStats [18:52:36] DanielK_WMDE: will look after i have all the communication done [18:52:38] (22 hours on average) [18:53:32] DanielK_WMDE: we know [18:53:38] localisation cache needs to be rebuilt [18:53:43] it's normal [18:53:56] kk [18:55:31] right now I'd like to be a Wikipedian and work on this :) [18:55:40] maybe I should create a sockpuppet account :) [18:56:24] Denny_WMDE: why a suckpuppet? just go ahead... [18:56:37] * aude working on it [18:57:06] sorted out all the chinatowns, with descriptions :) [18:58:03] aude: quite a lot! [18:58:10] yes [18:58:29] but there is none in Berlin [18:58:41] nope [18:58:51] but there is in Milan, in the netherlands, etc [18:59:01] 3 in NYC [18:59:34] * aude waits for my claim edits to appear on my watchlist [19:04:23] aude: Do you have Flagged Revisions on a (client) test wiki? There seems to be a minor glitch with watchlist options [19:04:36] hoo: :/ [19:04:43] i don't [19:05:01] * aude enables it [19:05:05] :) [19:05:33] If you do &hideWikibase=0&hideReviewed=1 on special:Watchlist it wont show Wikibase changes [19:05:56] enabling of phase 2 on 14 WPs is just a great news \o/ [19:05:58] (for namespaces where flagged revisions are enableD) [19:06:01] * enabled) [19:06:12] I'll drop a couple of lines later on IT village pump [19:06:19] Probably we just have to teach it to not filter external rows [19:06:24] Sannita: already done :) but feel free to translate [19:06:42] Lydia_WMDE: umpf :P [19:06:47] ;-) [19:06:51] hoo: hmmm [19:14:52] aude: I got a patch, I'd love it if you could test it [19:15:23] yay [19:15:30] * aude trying flagged revisions [19:19:26] are user pages allowed to have entries in the mainspace? [19:19:41] hmm.... flaggedrevs settings are complicated enough that we have dedicated config file for it in production [19:19:59] ihaveamac: i think the community decided 'no' for user pages [19:20:03] * aude finds the RFC [19:20:09] I recently saw http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8456861 [19:20:11] but wasn't sure [19:21:32] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability [19:21:41] i don't know how closely it's followed [19:22:10] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Inclusion_of_non-article_pages#User_pages ? [19:22:16] ah, yes [19:22:37] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56195 ;) [19:22:38] That's not a matter of configuration [19:22:39] hoo: shall try it [19:22:43] ok [19:23:02] now i see the flagged revs toggle, with the settings added [19:24:27] \o/ [19:25:29] aude: for using the terms table, i'll have to shift the PropertyLookup stuff around a bit [19:25:45] DanielK_WMDE: ok [19:26:05] if you want to do that, i can keep working on autosummaries [19:26:34] yea, sounds good [19:28:19] ack, i don't have flagged revisions permissions [19:29:20] * aude now is a Upload Wizard campaign editor [19:29:32] checked all the boxes [19:40:00] So, did you get it to run? :P [19:42:00] hoo: the patch works for me [19:42:14] \o/ [19:43:10] I'll add Daniel and Aaron (who wrote it) in the hope that someone will merge it [19:43:18] sure [19:43:33] it's nice to get flagged revisions working [19:43:48] * aude had it there but never set it up [19:46:12] gäh. bad translation "Verzögerung" is "delay"; "lag" should be "Rückstand". hmpf [19:46:19] * DanielK_WMDE should get involved with twn [19:46:45] both versions sound good to me :) [19:46:51] * aude don't know the difference [19:47:22] well, there the difference is the one between "delay" and "lag" :) [19:47:29] yep [19:47:51] that's why good qqq messages are important [19:48:04] don't know if they always help or everyone pays attention to them [19:48:13] Also, "Mittel" is not a good word for "Median" (which is actually the same in german). [19:48:17] bah, whatever :) [19:48:27] aude: yea, i'm trying to be very descriptive there. [19:48:31] sofixit :) [19:49:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SOFIXIT [20:16:44] * aude doing spring cleaning on wikipedia.... finding a lot of cruft [20:27:16] aude: You sound... suprised? [20:27:17] :p [20:34:34] not surprised [20:34:58] stuff i struggle to provide a description for [20:35:10] probably not worth keeping on wikipedia [20:46:58] Reedy: would you? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46378#c6 [20:47:07] or maybe ^demon can [20:52:17] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix caching issue in PropertySQLLookup" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56271 [20:52:18] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Generalized access to Claims by property ID." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56272 [21:29:04] I guess I can... ;) [21:30:11] I should create teh new wikis soon, so I don't get lynched.. [21:31:34] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Rename PropertySQLLookup to PropertyEntityLookup." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56319 [21:33:09] ooo 2 new wikivoyages! [22:00:48] DanielK_WMDE: [22:00:48] reedy@hume:/home/wikipedia/common/php-1.21wmf12$ mwscript extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/rebuildTermsSearchKey.php wikidatawiki [22:00:48] ...Update 'Wikibase\RebuildTermsSearchKey' already logged as completed. [22:00:48] reedy@hume:/home/wikipedia/common/php-1.21wmf12$ mwscript extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/rebuildTermsSearchKey.php wikidatawiki --force [22:00:48] Fatal error: Class 'ObservableMessageReporter' not found in /home/wikipedia/common/php-1.21wmf12/extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/rebuildTermsSearchKey.php on line 59 [22:01:53] ughhh i need another invite to #wikidata-admin [22:10:41] Pink|Q11201: invited. In the future, I think you can use /cs invite #wikidata-admin [22:10:48] oh cool [22:10:54] Reedy: o_O [22:11:04] Reedy: seems we forgot to take it out of experimental.. :-( [22:11:20] oh. hmpf. [22:15:28] Reedy, Tobi_WMDE: fixing... [22:16:18] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make MessageReporter available in production." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56326 [22:17:06] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56326/ [22:17:17] hi AnjaJ_WMDE! [22:17:36] hi DanielK_WMDE [22:17:37] :) [22:18:38] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56326 [22:21:30] Tobi_WMDE: thanks. backport? [22:22:22] DanielK_WMDE: sure [22:23:07] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Reedy#Proposed_deletion_of_Luke_Newberry [22:23:15] Some community members do like to piss people off [22:30:36] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Make MessageReporter available in production." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56329 [22:31:15] DanielK_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56329/ [22:32:11] Reedy: lololol [22:32:15] or rather trololol [22:32:57] Tobi_WMDE: that backport is missing a file?... [22:33:07] huu? [22:33:14] wtf [22:33:20] why? [22:33:28] i don't know :P [22:33:40] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Implement PropertyLookup on top of TermIndex (WIP)." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56330 [22:39:01] hi Reedy [22:39:22] MF-W is interested in the next wiki creation alert [22:39:29] do you know when it is? [22:39:34] Vogone: ??? [22:39:54] [23:38] MF-W you ask Reedy in #wikimedia-wikidata if you wanna know [22:39:56] [23:38] Vogone * #mediawiki [22:39:57] [23:38] MF-W no, in # -wikidata I can see the answer :P [22:40:10] very funny [22:40:48] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/newprojects [22:40:59] Did you not know we have a mailing list for this purpose only? :O [22:41:22] well, /I/ am subscribed to it [22:41:28] * Vogone too [22:41:34] but Vogone seems to want to know details :P [22:41:40] you too [22:41:55] no, I don't, and you can stop insisting on that [22:42:04] :O [22:42:06] lies [22:42:14] I've too many damn distractions [22:43:11] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Make MessageReporter available in production." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56329 [22:43:47] DanielK_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56329/ [22:43:51] 2nd try [22:43:53] :) [22:44:19] don't ask why, but I had conflicts on that file.. o_O [22:52:55] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "approving backport" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56329 [22:52:56] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.21-wmf12b) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56329 [22:53:14] Tobi_WMDE, Reedy: backport merged