[00:04:36] reedy@hume:~$ mwscript extensions/Wikibase/repo/maintenance/rebuildTermsSearchKey.php wikidatawiki --force [00:04:36] Updated 100 search keys, up to row 3301. [00:04:36] Updated 100 search keys, up to row 3885. [00:04:49] 44833. [00:05:29] Updated 100 search keys, up to row 81781. [00:05:29] Slaves are lagged by 2 seconds, sleeping... [00:05:29] Resuming... [00:05:29] Updated 100 search keys, up to row 81987. [00:05:29] # [00:09:47] | 64673377 | [00:09:59] I guess we shall be here a while.. [00:10:28] Reedy: hi, I wrote you an email regarding the review of my extension. You gave it a -2... (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50004) [00:10:46] can you tell me the reason for the -2? [00:11:59] It is/was a complete mess? [00:12:12] is it still? [00:12:27] I worked on all the comments [00:15:28] can you tell me what is still wrong? [00:16:25] I've not looked recently [00:17:25] Do you have the time to give it a second look? [00:32:07] damn you, firebug [00:32:15] * hoo restarts Firefox -.- [01:45:38] !nyan [01:45:38] ~=[,,_,,]:3 [01:45:46] !nyandata [01:45:46] https://bit.ly/nyandata [01:47:53] New patchset: Hoo man; "Refactor and lazy load jquery.wikibase.linkitem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:48:33] New review: Hoo man; "Refactored and tested this A LOT." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:49:53] New patchset: Hoo man; "Refactor and lazy load jquery.wikibase.linkitem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:50:09] New review: Hoo man; "Forgot to add a change." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:50:58] !nyan [01:50:58] ~=[,,_,,]:3 [01:51:02] :D [01:51:36] New patchset: Hoo man; "Refactor and lazy load jquery.wikibase.linkitem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:51:56] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:55:08] New patchset: Hoo man; "Refactor and lazy load jquery.wikibase.linkitem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:55:22] New review: Hoo man; "Corrected a comment" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:59:03] New patchset: Hoo man; "Make the dialog from wbclient.LinkItem modal" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54817 [01:59:19] New review: Hoo man; "(7 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [01:59:49] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54817 [02:02:52] New patchset: Hoo man; "Make the dialog from jquery.wikibase.linkitem modal" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54817 [02:03:02] New review: Hoo man; "Commit message updated" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54817 [02:54:18] gah, i missed hoo [03:06:23] Updated 100 search keys, up to row 1000321. [03:06:39] max is [03:06:40] 64761931 [03:06:52] 1.5% done! [04:17:14] Reedy: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q514066&action=edit&restore=13530519 - looks like something made what was passed into that method null (rather than the expected object) [04:58:10] I blame zee Germans! [05:06:25] Hazard-SJ: Shouldn't https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=15987910&oldid=15963164&rcid=16006111#Leemon2010 have stated open for atleast a week? [05:06:36] Jasper_Deng_busy: From that, I've now logged 2 different bugs ;) [05:06:51] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46623 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46624 [05:08:03] stayed open* :P [05:17:14] Riley, Hazard-SJ: You guys should comment on my bot request. [05:17:24] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/HaroldBot [05:17:24] the adminbot one? [05:17:30] Everyone should actually. [05:17:33] Indeed. [05:18:09] * Riley wonders how legoktm came up with that name [05:18:25] Riley: I'm not aware of any policies specifically regarding such requests. In fact, the only policy related to removal of rights is removal of adminship (which I decided to consider when closing), though it doesn't give a time either (in such a case I'd consider 1 week since RfAs last that time, but there is no set time for RfRs) [05:18:28] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators#Losing_adminship [05:18:33] Well, since you asked.... [05:18:51] Riley: Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Styles ? [05:19:20] Who hasn't? [05:19:32] :P [05:19:41] Now you know where the name came from! [05:19:52] but why?? [05:20:53] Why not? [05:21:24] nvm I was just wondering of all the people why him :P [05:24:31] rschen7754: ping [05:24:39] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Styles&action=edit [05:24:41] can you add [05:24:49] __STATICREDIRECT__ to it? [05:25:14] Actually [05:25:18] Ill just leave a request [05:25:40] legoktm: Why? :O [05:26:31] because it is a static redirect? [05:27:14] Site link [[enwiki:One Direction]] already used by item [[Q146027]]. [05:27:15] 10[8] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/enwiki:One_Direction13 => [05:27:17] 10[9] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q146027 [05:27:26] It wont let me add the link because its a redirect? [05:27:29] That's lame... [05:29:08] I wonder how big the wikidata db is now [05:29:19] Reedy: check please? :) [05:29:26] Am doing [05:29:31] | DB Name | DB Size in GB | [05:29:31] +--------------+-----------------+ [05:29:31] | wikidatawiki | 42.131591796875 | [05:30:20] hmm [05:30:20] still not beating enwiki. [05:30:33] dewiki is 225GB [05:30:34] b/c enwiki has far more text, while WD is mostly raw structured data [05:30:50] (which is pretty efficient to store in SQL) [05:30:51] http://p.defau.lt/?YAYt9hvCdCNbh4bY6kQHZA [05:31:20] I wonder if JSON really classes as raw structed data [05:31:24] | wikidatawiki.ipblocks | 0.00M | 0.00G | 0.00G | 0.00G | 1.56 | [05:31:32] Jasper_Deng_busy: We haven't blocked enough users! [05:31:36] | wikidatawiki.wb_terms | 37.82M | 3.71G | 5.80G | 9.51G | 1.56 | [05:31:36] | wikidatawiki.logging | 15.53M | 2.46G | 4.26G | 6.72G | 1.73 | [05:31:36] | wikidatawiki.revision | 15.60M | 2.54G | 3.49G | 6.04G | 1.37 | [05:31:56] Well, the text isnt actually stored in the database [05:32:11] But wikidata won't have as big of an externallinks table [05:32:11] I do note that I'm currently re-populating the terms search keys too [05:32:16] Ah right [05:32:19] How far is that? [05:32:43] 1624561. [05:33:00] max is currently 64830478 [05:33:06] couple of % [05:33:49] 2.5%!!!! [05:34:17] be nice if we could fix those 4 mainpage redlinks [05:35:02] Page edits since Wikidata was set up 16,118,884 [05:35:02] Average edits per page 1.99 [05:35:12] 2 edits per page? is that it? [05:35:28] many were imported by bots, often in a single edit [05:35:41] it'll go up as properties start getting added [05:36:13] I remember the start, when we were numerous edits to a page consecutively ;) [05:54:36] we passed 8.5 million [05:55:51] aude: Populating the search term key is like over 2.5% done! [05:55:52] lol [05:56:05] * aude patient [05:56:14] wow, it's taking a while [05:56:38] 65 million or so in total [05:56:55] 1.6M done [05:57:31] I wonder if it should be using larger batches to try and speed it up [05:57:48] no idea [05:58:00] worth trying [05:58:41] I don't think anyone said to.. But should it be using only-missing? [05:59:20] i think that's the default setting? [05:59:32] $builder->setRebuildAll( !$this->getOption( 'only-missing', false ) ); [05:59:34] err, no [05:59:55] i think everything is missing the search key [06:00:37] yeah, looks to be [06:00:42] newest 10 are [06:02:34] it's a setting we'll enable when it's done, and then maybe re-run to fill int he missing ones [06:02:39] deniel would know [06:03:05] daniel [06:08:54] * Reedy mumbles something about threading [06:09:07] :/ [09:31:50] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46624 [09:34:24] 04:17 < Jasper_Deng_busy> Reedy: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q514066&action=edit&restore=13530519 - looks like something made what was passed into that method null (rather than the expected object) [09:34:28] DanielK_WMDE: ^ [09:34:55] related minor bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46623 [09:35:27] a useful feature might be being able to only lock parts of an item [09:35:47] rschen7754: might be tricky [09:35:58] yeah, i know you have plenty to do already :) [09:36:01] not impossible, perhaps [09:49:47] Abraham_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49069/ [09:49:53] and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45005 [09:50:31] Abraham_WMDE: in InitialiseSettings.php [09:50:36] aude: thx [09:50:42] allowDataTransclusion [09:50:45] remove it everywhere [09:50:53] or can keep it on test2 [09:51:11] if there is a problem.... [10:04:26] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 46624) Avoid fatal when undoing deleted rev." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56377 [10:17:43] http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=11999 [10:19:13] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46629 [10:19:30] aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46369 [10:38:51] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:PinkAmpersand [10:42:14] Pink& is sleeping right now [10:45:33] ...pink is sleeping, pink is sleeping, in his fury hide.. #singing [10:46:03] * jeblad is looking at backups scrolling by.. [10:46:16] :P [11:06:55] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make ChangeRow work with new ORMTable." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56384 [11:08:46] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make ChangeRow work with new ORMTable." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56384 [11:32:08] New review: Daniel Werner; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [12:00:42] hi [12:00:53] where can i post my property proposal? [12:04:08] Schisma_: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal [12:13:40] Vogone: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal#MusicBrainz_Identifier_.2F_MusicBrainz_Identifikator [12:13:44] how about this? [12:45:24] F00d!? [14:39:55] DanielK_WMDE: there? [14:40:38] poking him [14:40:42] Denny_WMDE: hm? [14:41:00] if you have the time, maybe you are interested in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Queries [14:46:37] Denny_WMDE: *sigh* :) [14:50:52] Denny_WMDE: sounds good in general, though I have a few complains/questions. [14:54:43] Denny_WMDE: aude: i am getting reports from people who miss edit links in the sidebar of articles since yesterday that were previously there [14:54:46] a purge fixes it [14:56:15] huh? [15:07:19] DanielK_WMDE: complain, ask :) [15:07:29] * aude will read later [15:17:34] Denny_WMDE: we'll very likely need sorting by label. that's extremely common, i think (list result in alphabetical order) [15:18:24] Denny_WMDE: also, i'm not sure whether we really want to restrict queries to preferred values. For display, we will use "normal" values if there are no preferred ones, right? [15:18:35] so we should do the same for indexing/queries. [15:19:20] Denny_WMDE: sorting by label can be done on the client [15:19:44] display and querying are two different things [15:19:58] but consistency is good :) [15:20:03] i see no reason not to support it [15:20:33] for sorting by label... i suppose it's easier on the client, because you have the local language as context [15:20:44] but you'd need to implement language fallback on the client. that sucks. [15:20:56] no, you do not need to implement language fallback [15:21:05] if it is not given, then it is not given [15:21:13] true [15:21:23] but that makes it a lot less useful [15:22:41] or it increases the incentive to actually fill in the labels :) [15:28:19] I think someone mentioned that the EntitiesWithoutLabel should be on the client to make it possible to translate missin ones.. [15:29:37] jeblad: doesn't make much sense. both the entities and the labels are on the repo. [15:56:44] Denny_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE time for our call [15:57:31] k [16:53:11] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal#MusicBrainz_Identifier_.2F_MusicBrainz_Identifikator_.2F_num.C3.A9ro_d.27identification_MusicBrainz [16:53:13] opinions? [17:12:25] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Implement PropertyLookup on top of TermIndex." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56330 [17:30:46] anyone want to update the news section on the main page with yesterday's deployment? :) [17:32:44] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 44228) dataValues.util: Not using $.extend to set constructor" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56412 [19:13:34] Updated 100 search keys, up to row 4205068. [19:42:02] Is it me or is there a problem with the site? :| [19:42:14] Well ... was [19:49:08] hey, there's some conversation going on in wikimeda-operations that might implication the wikidata cron job in a recent site outage ;) [19:49:18] aude: DanielFriesen ^ [19:50:09] I'm currently in wikimedia-tech and apparently whatever they did also affected Wikipedias [19:50:26] But is now fixed [19:50:36] yeah, but, given this thing is a cron job, it might happen again [19:50:44] New patchset: Hoo man; "Refactor and lazy load jquery.wikibase.linkitem" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [19:51:07] ? [19:51:13] New review: Hoo man; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [19:52:04] New review: Hoo man; "Style and comments (partly per Daniel)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54816 [19:52:38] DanielFriesen: scrollback: http://pastebin.com/iCND6C25 [19:53:42] What about it? [19:54:09] greg-g: DanielFriesen is not part of the Wikidata Team, you probably mean Daniel Kinzler (DanielK) [19:54:18] Mhmm [19:54:25] (there's also Daniel Werner, but he's not into this much) [19:54:51] DanielFriesen: my bad! [19:54:53] hoo: thanks :) [20:06:29] legoktm: Ping [20:52:10] Hey, I'm trying to add a french entry to a list of pages linking to an item but it is failing. Is there any current issue specific to the french wiki? [20:53:11] Trying to add http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tude_statistique_de_l%27astrologie to this https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8464960 in response to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAstrology_and_science&diff=547333726&oldid=547044469 [20:55:00] IRWolfie-: Hello, I'm looking into it. [20:55:28] cheers [20:55:52] IRWolfie-: Do you speak French? [20:56:11] no [21:00:48] IRWolfie-: I've figured out the reason: it is because both articles are currently stored as two separate items. This could easily be fixed if they are about the same topic, so I am verifying that first, since the titles seem slightly different [21:01:24] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Base/MediaWiki:Nstab-main/uk move it to MediaWiki:Nstab-main/uk please [21:01:49] Hazard-SJ: How close to the same topic are things expected to be? [21:02:19] I can see that the french article appears to be a subset of the english article [21:02:34] (from google translate) [21:02:47] statistical study of astrology, astrology and science [21:02:55] the en one is definitely broader [21:02:58] IRWolfie-: That's what I'm determining too. [21:03:24] shimgray: Going through the translations, they might actually be about the same thing, though. [21:03:28] It's arguably closer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_effect [21:03:31] So I'll merge them [21:03:42] * Hazard-SJ stops to see first [21:03:59] !admin [21:04:13] Hello Base-w, may I help you? [21:04:23] ah good point about the translate though, it appears to cover some of the same sections as Astrology and science [21:04:32] IRWolfie-: That would be https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effet_Mars so I'll merge now. [21:04:49] Base-w: done [21:05:13] Romaine: Hazard-SJ: thanx [21:07:43] IRWolfie-: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Astrology_and_science#wikidata_link [21:08:11] Base-w: Sorry, I didn't see your request above :P [21:09:12] cheers [21:23:56] (wow the french article is completely pro-Astrology) [21:24:09] anyway, I'm off , cheers for that [21:29:01] Hi again [21:29:11] Hello Base [21:29:15] hi :) [21:29:19] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Base/MediaWiki:Mainpage-nstab/uk [21:29:26] do the same please [21:30:23] Base: Done [21:31:17] Thanks [21:31:27] You're welcome :) [21:36:40] /win go #gaygeeks-asl [21:37:00] New patchset: Hoo man; "Make the dialog from jquery.wikibase.linkitem modal" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54817 [21:37:03] (command error: irssi prints the line, where prepend by a spece) [21:37:06] (space) [21:37:28] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54817 [22:14:49] hey, question. when the extension to include data from wikidata is set up on all wikipedias, will it also be available on sister-projects? [22:15:16] so, eg, commons could have author templates with an ID and automatically pulling in the data for that known ID [22:15:48] shimgray: Not yet, there are discussions going on as to how such things will be implemented [22:16:29] *nods* [22:16:53] are there also any thoughts about an instant-commons style plugin for external wikis? [22:19:01] I think there was, yes [22:19:22] Though, you'd need the extensions enabled, not just core mediawiki for instant commons [22:20:54] Will wd be used for wikiquotes, wikivoyages? [22:22:03] *nods* [22:22:22] Commons and WS have pretty obvious uses, but I'm wondering about more far-flung projects [22:24:31] !admin can someone block http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.164.77.19 [22:24:40] Pr se,o [roptect the item hes obsessing over? [22:24:51] *or semi-protect [22:24:56] looking [22:25:12] 4722559 / 65614741 = 7.197% [22:25:14] aude: ^ [22:25:15] ;p; [22:25:39] done [22:26:01] :P [22:26:30] Thanks, Rschen. I forgot how much of a PAIN persistant vandals are without admin tools [22:26:35] lol [22:26:44] lol [22:26:53] I semi'd the entry for 2 weeks [22:27:23] local adminship isn't that hard to get :P [22:27:25] (also b/c it's a BLP and there were BLP violations recently) [22:45:28] final silly question of the evening: is there a sensible set of properties to indicate "group of people"? [22:47:47] What's that? Can I only edit Wikidata with JavaScript? [22:47:47] shimgray: I don't think so [22:48:39] speckmade: According to something I read before, if there is a JavaSript problem, a slower web interface takes over. [22:48:47] * shimgray is trying to disentangle Q153796 (made of Q61699 & Q59054) [22:49:17] * Hazard-SJ is trying to file a RfBOT and RfA [22:51:53] an admin bot? [22:52:33] Hi [22:52:37] rschen7754: yep [22:52:42] see PC [22:54:00] Please review these requests http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_protected_edit_requests [22:54:14] Hazard-SJ: What does that mean? The "add" button doesn't seem to do anything - except for a page reload. [22:57:38] !admin Please review these requests http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_protected_edit_requests