[00:05:05] <sDrewth>	 Jasper_Deng: fix the gadget, all I am doing is wrapping [[Qnnnnnnn]]
[00:05:06] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Qnnnnnnn
[00:05:25] <Jasper_Deng>	 sDrewth: ehh, I think it expects the numerical item name
[00:05:35] <sDrewth>	 not worried about the bot
[00:05:44] <sDrewth>	 I mean for the deletions
[00:06:07] * Jasper_Deng  meant the gadget

[00:07:05] <sDrewth>	 that is what I am giving the gadget ... "duplicate of [[Qnnnn]]"
[00:07:05] <AsimovBot>	 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Qnnnn
[00:07:36] <sDrewth>	 unless you are saying that the gadget detects Qnnnnnn and automatically wikilinks
[00:08:17] <sDrewth>	 and if that is the case, then maybe the gadget should mention that on its form
[00:08:20] <Jasper_Deng>	 hhm.... haven't seen it happen elsewhere
[00:08:29] * Jasper_Deng  isn't familiar w/ the code of the gadget

[00:08:41] <sDrewth>	 me neither, not care to be
[00:10:53] <Jasper_Deng>	 I'd suggest you bring this up w/ the gadget writer
[00:13:42] <sDrewth>	 Jasper_Deng: I am just using the gadget, if it is broken at the deletion page you are telling me just a user to take it up with the gadget writer
[00:14:07] <sDrewth>	 administrators issue IMNSHO
[00:14:08] <Jasper_Deng>	 I just haven't seen this issue before
[00:14:27] <sDrewth>	 well, I am telling you, and I am not totally stupid
[00:14:38] <sDrewth>	 nor totally inccompetent
[00:14:43] <sDrewth>	 just partial in both
[00:15:34] <sDrewth>	 I am having enough stinking problems with the wikipedia EDIT LINK breaking for me
[00:38:34] <Emw>	 If I want to link from Wikidata to a Wikipedia page, I can do that with a link like [[:en:this]].  How could I link from a Wikipedia page to a Wikidata (talk) page?
[00:38:34] <AsimovBot>	 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/:en:this
[00:39:03] <legoktm>	 [[:d:something]]
[00:39:03] <AsimovBot>	 10[4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/:d:something
[00:39:07] <legoktm>	 Emw: ^
[00:39:19] <Emw>	 legoktm: Awesome, thanks
[00:39:27] <legoktm>	 long form is :wikidata:
[00:39:27] <legoktm>	 np
[00:49:15] <sDrewth>	 is it just me, or is the edit link at enWP that edits WD problematic?
[00:49:28] <sDrewth>	 fails for me in both chrome and ff
[00:54:40] <sDrewth>	 hmm it may just be in categories that it is busted
[00:55:11] <sDrewth>	 does anyone get an "edit link" for the interwiki at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cyclists_at_the_1956_Summer_Olympics ?
[00:55:29] <legoktm>	 weird
[00:55:30] <legoktm>	 i dont
[00:55:52] <sDrewth>	 I get the extra bullet, but link mo
[00:55:54] <sDrewth>	 no
[00:55:56] <legoktm>	 but i see it on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama
[00:56:09] <sDrewth>	 yep, I am getting it from articles
[00:56:23] <Sebleouf>	 I've seen this problem many times on French wiki
[00:56:29] <Sebleouf>	 on random pages
[00:58:02] <sDrewth>	 I can reproduce at ruWP
[00:58:16] <sDrewth>	 shows at  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%BE,_%D0%A7%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5
[00:58:27] <sDrewth>	 fail at https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%9E%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85_1956_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0
[00:58:50] <sDrewth>	 the second is the category
[01:00:06] <sDrewth>	 hmm, wikidata is not an extension, where is at Bugzilla?
[01:00:29] <Vogone>	 sDrewth: purge often helps
[01:01:09] <sDrewth>	 Vogone: been purged, been restarted, and now can demonstrate in two browsers
[01:01:19] <Vogone>	 :S
[01:01:31] <Vogone>	 k, then bugzilla
[01:02:25] <Vogone>	 sDrewth: ah, and the extension is called Wikibase :P
[01:03:28] <legoktm>	 sDrewth: its called "WikidataClient"
[01:04:40] <Vogone>	 O.O
[01:04:55] <Vogone>	 legoktm: it doesn't belong to Wikibase?
[01:05:04] <legoktm>	 not in bugzilla
[01:05:15] <sDrewth>	 wikibase isn't on the extension list anyway
[01:05:20] <Vogone>	 why do the devs always say "Wikibase is deployed to blah" then?
[01:06:00] <legoktm>	 the extension is named Wikibase
[01:06:02] <sDrewth>	 Vogone: are you really looking for logic?  silly silly silly
[01:06:08] <legoktm>	 but in bugzilla its called WikidataClient/Repo
[01:06:09] <Vogone>	 lol
[01:07:46] <Vogone>	 but at least on gerrit it's Wikibase :)
[01:08:36] <sDrewth>	 46711
[01:08:54] <sDrewth>	 [[bugzilla:46711]]
[01:08:54] <AsimovBot>	 10[5] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/bugzilla:46711
[01:10:11] <Vogone>	 great
[01:10:29] <Vogone>	 in a few billion years they may care about it
[01:15:24] <sDrewth>	 now the issue is trying to find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cyclists_at_the_1956_Summer_Olympics  in WD is a right pain in the arse
[01:17:11] <sDrewth>	 weird, I can get a category edit link elsewhere
[01:18:27] <sDrewth>	 maybe a length issue as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sport_in_Melbourne  works fine
[01:23:50] <Vogone>	 Comment # 1 on bug 46711 from billinghurst Interestingly I can get it elsewhere  success  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sport_in_Melbourne  length issue?
[01:24:04] <Vogone>	 O_o
[01:24:45] <Vogone>	 never heard of a length issue :S
[01:27:04] <Vogone>	 anyway, good night :)
[01:27:48] <legoktm>	 night Vogone :)
[01:37:51] <sDrewth>	 can anyone suggest then how to find where a category resides if you cannot get it off the EDIT LINK?
[01:38:03] <sDrewth>	 Category:Competitors at the 1956 Summer Olympics is hiding there somewhere
[01:41:27] <legoktm>	 it doesn exist according to the API
[01:44:34] <sDrewth>	 legoktm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Competitors_at_the_1956_Summer_Olympics  shows interwikis
[01:44:52] <legoktm>	 locally stored
[01:44:53] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Competitors_at_the_1956_Summer_Olympics&action=edit
[01:44:54] <sDrewth>	 but it may be unlabelled
[01:45:16] <legoktm>	 let me try creating it
[01:45:20] <legoktm>	 with my bot
[01:45:51] <sDrewth>	 hmm, I am clearly losing it
[01:46:38] * sDrewth  is clearly conflating my errors

[01:47:14] <legoktm>	 sDrewth: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8773421
[01:47:22] <sDrewth>	 legoktm: here is where I started having the issue  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Athletes_%28track_and_field%29_at_the_1956_Summer_Olympics
[01:47:36] <legoktm>	 hmm
[01:47:38] <legoktm>	 well that is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7819749
[01:48:15] <legoktm>	 also, what kind of description of "Wikimedia category"?
[01:48:20] <legoktm>	 is that what people use now...?
[01:48:44] <sDrewth>	 there is no guidance, and the guidance for Templates says to put "Wikipedia template"
[01:49:02] <sDrewth>	 so I have just been using that as the one guidance note
[01:49:48] <sDrewth>	 legoktm: and yes, I found that category in the end, I was more pointing to the NO edit link
[01:50:04] <legoktm>	 right
[01:50:05] <legoktm>	 hmmm
[01:59:03] <legoktm>	 sDrewth: you know, its faster if you just poke me on IRC to delete something? :P
[05:36:24] <ThiagoRuiz>	 anyone with an available bot?
[05:38:07] <legoktm>	 hi
[05:38:10] <legoktm>	 ThiagoRuiz: sup?
[05:42:50] <ThiagoRuiz>	 hi
[05:43:01] * legoktm  has a bot

[05:43:09] <ThiagoRuiz>	 i found an interwiki conflict and i think i've fixed it on wikipedia
[05:43:23] <legoktm>	 so why do you need a bot?
[05:43:25] <ThiagoRuiz>	 now i need a bot to try to import the interwikis to wikimedia to make sure there's no conflict anymore
[05:44:09] <ThiagoRuiz>	 nothing important, just to make sure
[05:44:11] <legoktm>	 errr
[05:44:14] <legoktm>	 i dont follow
[05:44:18] <legoktm>	 import to wikimedia? 
[05:44:25] <ThiagoRuiz>	 wikidata, sorry
[05:44:35] <legoktm>	 oh
[05:44:35] <legoktm>	 sure
[05:44:39] <legoktm>	 whats the page?
[05:44:42] <legoktm>	 you can do it manually btw
[05:44:55] <ThiagoRuiz>	 Category:Psychiatrists
[05:45:13] <ThiagoRuiz>	 sure, but there are many links
[05:45:36] <ThiagoRuiz>	 the bot would really help :P
[05:46:40] <ThiagoRuiz>	 i've already created the item on wikidata
[05:46:59] <ThiagoRuiz>	 Q8804168
[05:47:53] <legoktm>	 oh
[05:47:56] <legoktm>	 theres a gadget
[05:48:01] <legoktm>	 called "slurpinterwiki"
[05:48:07] <legoktm>	 lets you import them all at once :)
[05:48:39] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q8804168&diff=16870617&oldid=16866208
[05:48:41] <legoktm>	 {{done}}
[05:48:42] <AsimovBot>	 How efficient, legoktm!
[05:49:16] <ThiagoRuiz>	 lol
[05:49:20] <ThiagoRuiz>	 i knew i was missing something
[05:49:59] <ThiagoRuiz>	 thank you very much, legoktm :)
[05:50:02] <legoktm>	 np
[09:29:17] * legoktm  is currently tagging baseball players with the teams they played for

[10:01:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Removing forced ltr and English from wb-tooltip-error-details" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56716
[10:07:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Removing forced ltr and English from wb-tooltip-error-details" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56716
[10:14:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Use the term based property lookup on the client." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56717
[14:10:01] <multichill>	 legoktm: I see you're adding structure type. How do you get the info? Category or template?
[14:10:42] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/properties.js/Archive/2013/03/30
[14:13:44] <multichill>	 Ah, nice
[14:21:13] <legoktm>	 Sk1d: your bot is creating items mine already did...
[14:21:26] <legoktm>	     (cur | prev) 10:31, 30 March 2013‎ Sk!dbot (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (214 bytes) (+214)‎ . . (‎Created a new item)
[14:21:34] <legoktm>	      (show/hide) (diff) 08:57, 30 March 2013 . . Legobot (talk | contribs | block) (226 bytes) (‎Created a new item)
[14:21:53] <Sk1d>	 id?
[14:22:13] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q8841015&action=history
[14:22:16] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Q8828250
[14:23:43] <Sk1d>	 why did the item got deleted?
[14:24:26] <Sk1d>	 my bot is currently importing all en:category pages
[14:24:45] <legoktm>	 do you want me to stop mine then?
[14:24:55] <legoktm>	 it got deleted cuz they're duplicates
[14:25:31] <Sk1d>	 ah ok I am wondering why the duplicated check system does not work
[14:25:38] <Sk1d>	 this should not be possible
[14:26:33] <Sk1d>	 also my bot makes a request for the pages if there is a item via get itemsb by interwikilink
[14:26:44] <legoktm>	 weird...
[14:26:59] <Sk1d>	 if this happens again we should contact the developer
[14:26:59] <legoktm>	 lemme just switch my bot to import something else
[14:27:46] <legoktm>	 Sk1d: pretty sure https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot/Dupes are all because of this...
[14:29:13] <Sk1d>	 hmmm
[14:44:30] <multichill>	 legoktm: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q242575&curid=235810&diff=17043116&oldid=14011225 ?
[14:44:46] <legoktm>	 yup!
[14:44:56] <legoktm>	 look at the numbers of the items
[14:46:46] <multichill>	 Only https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6581072 ?
[14:47:38] <multichill>	 legoktm: What is the other id?
[14:48:16] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q43445 is the old one
[14:48:28] <legoktm>	 the old male/female had translation issues for humans or something
[15:00:54] <multichill>	 legoktm: Looking at the history it has always been Q6581072 
[15:01:15] <legoktm>	 no....
[15:01:34] <legoktm>	 look at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q242575&diff=7115143&oldid=7051387
[15:02:12] <multichill>	 hmm, check out https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q242575&oldid=7115143
[15:02:39] <multichill>	 It links to the other one, something is going wrong here
[15:02:45] <legoktm>	 weird
[15:02:53] <legoktm>	 before the JS loads
[15:02:57] <legoktm>	 it points to the right item
[15:03:02] <legoktm>	 then it has the wrong link
[15:04:23] * multichill  wonders if there is a bug open for that

[15:20:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 legoktm: multichill: not a known bug afaik - can you purge and see if that helps?
[15:20:46] <Lydia_WMDE>	 if not please file a bug
[15:32:34] <Emw>	 Is there any impression of what the syntax of Wikidata queries might look like -- any rough examples?
[15:58:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Emw: i don't think so yet
[16:33:11] <Sk1d>	 legoktm: has your bot reviewed all items linking to P21 if they use  Q44148 and Q43445 insted of Q6581072 and Q6581097?
[16:41:38] <multichill>	 legoktm: Do you know if anyone is already running a bot to update Wikidata when an article is renamed?
[16:55:25] <Emw>	 In the statement "Develop and prepare a SPARQL endpoint to the data" in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Technical_proposal#Optional_extensions_to_phase_3, does that mean Wikidata might support simple entailment via SPARQL queries?  (simple entailment: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#entail, SPARQL: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/)
[16:55:34] <Sk1d>	 multichill: I think there is a bot fixing redirects so if you move a page and if you dont delete it, it should be fixed.
[16:55:50] <Sk1d>	 but i am not sure for which languages this is done
[16:55:55] <multichill>	 Sk1d: Just found  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/BetaBot/2
[16:56:04] <multichill>	 We should keep an overview of what bot is doing what job
[16:56:28] <Emw>	 ^ +1 
[17:03:00] <Vivaelcelta>	 Hi!
[17:04:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: Emw: there is a page with a table overview already
[17:04:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hi Vivaelcelta
[17:04:11] <Vivaelcelta>	 Please review these request http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-properties.js#Galician_translation
[17:04:21] <Vivaelcelta>	 Hi Lydia_WMDE
[17:04:22] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: Linkie?
[17:04:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: sorry - need to run - it is in the last or second to last weekly summary
[17:05:18] <Emw>	 Thanks Lydia :)
[17:09:16] <Vivaelcelta>	 An admin available?
[17:09:41] <multichill>	 Vivaelcelta: Just ask your question and someone might be able to help you
[17:10:08] <Vivaelcelta>	 Please review these request http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-properties.js#Galician_translation
[17:11:20] <Vivaelcelta>	 Lydia_WMDE, Is possible add the language selector of Wikidata in Commons?
[17:15:13] <Emw>	 I wonder if that existing request in Bugzilla: you might want to look through https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=WikidataRepo&resolution=--- and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=WikidataClient&resolution=---
[17:15:28] <Emw>	 Vivaelcelta: ^
[17:17:45] <Vivaelcelta>	 Emw but my suggest is for Commons
[17:18:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hoo man; "Thanks for the patch :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56716
[17:18:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56716
[17:23:12] <Vivaelcelta>	 !admin Please review these request http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-properties.js#Galician_translation
[18:05:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tpt; "Fix an error in the lua api when the entity has no label or sitelink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56737
[18:07:23] <Emw>	 Anyone here know SPARQL, at all?
[18:42:59] <Vogone>	 Lydia_WMDE: around?
[18:43:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Vogone: yes
[18:43:12] <Vogone>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46711 <- we tried that yesterday
[18:43:21] * Lydia_WMDE  looks

[18:43:26] <Vogone>	 otherwise we wouldn't have reported that
[18:43:44] <Vogone>	 purge did definitely not help yesterday
[18:43:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Vogone: got a link to a problematic article?
[18:44:24] <Vogone>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cyclists_at_the_1956_Summer_Olympics
[18:44:37] <Vogone>	 there is no edit link for Wikidata
[18:44:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 looking
[18:46:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Vogone: no item seems to exist for it - all the language links are in the wiki text
[18:46:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and itembytitle doesn't find it on wikidata
[18:46:30] <Vogone>	 huh?
[18:46:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that is the reason there is no link i'd say
[18:46:51] * Vogone  looks

[18:47:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :)
[18:48:22] <multichill>	 Emw: Sparql, hmm, last time I played around with that was about 10 years ago I think :P
[18:48:48] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: What do you think of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Commons_category.3F ?
[18:49:06] <Vogone>	 Lydia_WMDE: mhmhm… you are right … sorry for bothering you with this silly bug :P
[18:49:11] <Emw>	 SPARQL would really open up the door for neat applications with Wikidata
[18:49:25] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Vogone: no problem
[18:49:33] <Vogone>	 but why aren't the categories not imported to Wikidata? :S
[18:49:34] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: hmmmmm
[18:49:37] <Vogone>	 -not
[18:49:38] <AsimovBot>	 04Error: Command “not” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written.
[18:50:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: my gut feeling says wait until it is done "properly" but...
[18:50:19] <multichill>	 At the moment it's only Wikipedia Vogone.
[18:50:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i mean if oyu have it as a property now what would you do with it?
[18:50:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it wouldn't show up on commons automagically
[18:50:45] <multichill>	 No, but I can use that on the Wikipedia articles.
[18:50:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 oh i see
[18:50:56] <multichill>	 And harvest the info
[18:51:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yeah that makes sense i guess
[18:51:20] <Lydia_WMDE>	 keep in mind that there is a length limit for strings though
[18:51:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 (don't remember what it was set to in the end)
[18:51:37] <Vogone>	 multichill: I was talking about some enwiki cats :)
[18:51:49] <multichill>	 Do you know https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CategorizationBot ? It could probably make use of it
[18:51:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i don't
[18:52:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 well now i do :P
[18:52:18] <multichill>	 And at the moment {{Commonscat}} is update in a way similair to the old interwiki process.
[18:52:19] <AsimovBot>	 10[6] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Commonscat
[18:52:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 k
[18:52:40] <multichill>	 No need for that if it's in WIkidata. Is the length limit < 100 chars?
[18:52:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no - longer iirc
[18:53:03] <multichill>	 Than it shouldn't be a problem
[18:53:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[18:53:39] <multichill>	 CategorizationBot takes an uncategorized image, looks where it used and uses that article to find a category at Commons
[18:53:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 got it
[18:54:36] <multichill>	 And the ErfgoedBot also uses the info to categorize monuments. At the moment it won't work at certain wiki's because it can't parse {{sisterlinks}}
[18:54:36] <AsimovBot>	 10[7] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:sisterlinks
[18:55:02] <multichill>	 If all the info is on Wikidata, there is no such problem. The data and representation would be detached
[18:55:14] <Lydia_WMDE>	 *nod*
[18:55:57] <multichill>	 The whole template parsing thing was a intermediate situation anyway
[19:00:10] <multichill>	 Vogone: Some of the categories are imported
[19:00:45] <Vogone>	 ja, but I thought the bots have already finished import of /all/ enwiki pages
[19:01:54] <multichill>	 Ja, dat dacht ik eigenlijk ook, maar nog niet alle cats blijkbaar
[19:03:23] <Vogone>	 Dutch! :D
[19:58:01] <multichill>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Q19088 <- wtf? That's not a lot. Didn't anyone start with importing of taxobox info?
[20:02:29] <Emw>	 multichill: I think many taxon items might be linking only to taxon rank and parent taxon, e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q536
[20:03:09] <multichill>	 Hmm, I like it more like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4248045
[20:03:22] <Emw>	 Why?
[20:03:42] <multichill>	 All the info for the taxobox
[20:04:03] <Emw>	 Sure, but 'parent taxon' can be used to deduce all that
[20:04:32] <multichill>	 Sounds complicated and recursive
[20:04:39] <Emw>	 SPARQL!
[20:05:33] <Emw>	 That sort of basic recursion is a core feature of querying Semantic Web data, from what I read
[20:05:46] <multichill>	 Hehe, take for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleophora_peribenanderi . All the info is needed for the infobox
[20:06:43] <Emw>	 Right, but http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q536 contains all the same kinds of data for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_betta, but much more logically
[20:07:40] <multichill>	 Things like Phylum are missing
[20:07:50] <multichill>	 Impossible to get with the current WIkidata configuration
[20:08:22] <multichill>	 (you can only get info from the linked item of a page afaik)
[20:11:55] <Emw>	 At the moment, yes, but code to walk up the chain seems trivial
[20:13:05] <Emw>	 which could be done via API
[20:13:57] <multichill>	 We'll see, for now https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BotMultichill adds the whole chain
[20:16:35] <Emw>	 Legobot has a different philosophy, I guess: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q536&diff=9855689&oldid=7139861
[20:17:31] <Emw>	 I think adding the whole chain is pragmatic for the moment, though
[20:17:46] <Emw>	 It would just be a shame if it stayed that way
[20:19:29] <multichill>	 I think that Legobot edit is based on a command to add a certain claim to all articles in a category
[20:21:04] <multichill>	 We should be able to build trees like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Elizabeth_II_to_Charlemagne_ancestry.svg for species soon
[20:21:50] <Emw>	 indeed!
[20:22:57] <Emw>	 With www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 and www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279, such trees could be built for all items
[20:24:31] <multichill>	 And some day we'll have https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Next_generation_categories ;-)
[20:28:03] <Emw>	 I see that as a main feature of Wikidata in the future.  Categories are simply hard-coded query results
[20:42:58] <Invadinado>	 Hi :)
[20:43:08] <Invadinado>	 Could an admin delete this item please? [[Q8912700]]
[20:43:08] <AsimovBot>	 10[8] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8912700
[20:44:17] <Invadinado>	 It's in conflict with [[Q5431887]]
[20:44:18] <AsimovBot>	 10[9] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5431887
[20:46:00] <Vogone>	 Invadinado: done :)
[20:46:13] <Invadinado>	 Thank you, Vogone :)
[21:41:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56412
[22:29:47] <jeblad>	 Neh, shall I take a stroll in the city...
[22:30:51] <jeblad>	 Lydia_WMDE: I saw the difference after I marked the bug as duplicate, but then got a mid air collision with you..
[22:31:06] <jeblad>	 I could swear I heard the whip...
[23:05:23] <ihaveamac>	 http://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft wikidata integration is cool
[23:12:07] <hoo>	 Yeah :)
[23:19:59] <Kizar>	 Hi
[23:20:47] <Kizar>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot#KLBot2_3