[00:14:01] <Jasper_Deng>	 jeblad: Don't you think we should just disable the bot=1 parameter in the API for now?
[00:15:16] <perpetual>	 hello
[00:15:27] <perpetual>	 could anyone help me
[00:15:37] <Jasper_Deng>	 yes, perpetual?
[00:15:42] <perpetual>	 how to create a wikidata page using a bot
[00:15:59] <Jasper_Deng>	 jeblad just asked bots to be disabled
[00:16:14] <Jasper_Deng>	 I think there's already a Python framework to do it
[00:16:26] <perpetual>	 ya pywikibot
[00:16:49] <perpetual>	 i am unable to figure out how to create a page using it
[00:17:23] <Jasper_Deng>	 oh
[00:17:52] <Jasper_Deng>	 OK, jeblad, that was kinda well-hidden
[00:17:54] <Jasper_Deng>	 (April fools)
[00:18:01] <perpetual>	 -_-
[00:18:44] <jeblad>	 Put your name on PC, and you will get a http cookie from me.. 
[00:18:53] <jeblad>	 Sorry I could not resist!
[00:21:47] <jeblad>	 Its not without merit, the change propagation to the client is overloaded but it will be fixed
[00:22:07] <Hahc21>	 lol
[00:22:21] <jeblad>	 Kind of success problem, we have to much activity
[00:32:15] <sDrewth>	 how in the hell does SHIP fall under term?
[02:33:27] <ihaveamac>	 I tried: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:IXavier/hehe/Wikidata:Main_Page
[05:53:43] <legoktm>	 what the fuck Jasper_Deng 
[05:53:44] <legoktm>	 [07:12:34 PM] <+RyuBot-wikidata>	 Block editor [[User:Legobot]] blocked by admin [[User:Jasper Deng]] Length: 1 day: per [[WD:Project chat#Blocking bots: Houston we have a problem…]] "blocked User:Legobot (account creation disabled, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of 1 day: per [[WD:Project chat#Blocking bots: Houston we have a problem…]]"
[05:53:44] <AsimovBot>	 10[11] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Legobot13 =>
[05:53:46] <AsimovBot>	 10[12] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Jasper_Deng13 =>
[05:53:48] <AsimovBot>	 10[13] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:Project_chat%23Blocking_bots:_Houston_we_have_a_problem%E2%80%A6
[05:53:50] <legoktm>	 thats not funny
[05:54:00] <legoktm>	 i had at least 13 different import scripts running
[05:54:01] <Jasper_Deng>	 legoktm: I thought he was serious
[05:54:04] <legoktm>	 all dead in random places
[05:54:08] * rschen7754  facepalms

[05:54:27] <Jasper_Deng>	 I actually fell for jeblad's joke, OK
[05:56:09] <legoktm>	 gah
[05:57:58] * Moe_Epsilon  chuckles

[07:30:56] <legoktm>	 is there any property for left handed or right handed?
[07:30:58] <legoktm>	 for people
[07:33:39] <Jasper_Deng>	 what would such a property be called?
[07:33:52] <rschen7754>	 but what if people are both?
[07:34:22] <legoktm>	 you link to ambidexterous or something
[07:34:41] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:PP/P#shoots_.28left_.2F_right.29
[07:34:52] <legoktm>	 I just proposed that for hockey / lacrosse players
[07:35:03] <legoktm>	 but there would also be catches left /right
[07:35:05] <legoktm>	 bats left / right
[07:35:06] <legoktm>	 etc
[07:38:04] <Amir1>	 hello multichill
[07:38:11] <Amir1>	 are you there?
[07:38:24] <legoktm>	 o/
[07:38:39] <Amir1>	 legoktm: hello you
[07:39:01] <legoktm>	 hey
[07:39:05] <Amir1>	 legoktm: have you seen this?
[07:39:05] <Amir1>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dexbot
[07:39:43] <legoktm>	 oh cool
[07:40:04] <Amir1>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Ladsgroup#P:P107
[07:40:11] <Amir1>	 I didn't add P107
[07:40:19] <Amir1>	 I add p31 for now
[07:40:48] <Amir1>	 but if the property will be kept i add that too
[07:41:04] <Amir1>	 do you think it's ok?
[07:41:32] <legoktm>	 my bot is still adding it
[07:41:42] <Amir1>	 don't 
[07:42:49] <legoktm>	 why not?
[07:43:11] <legoktm>	 even if the property is going to get deleted, the data will be helpful in transitioning
[07:43:44] <Amir1>	 I disagree with deletion but for now i think there is discussion about the property and has to be reached to result
[07:44:16] <Amir1>	 i mean it must has been reached to resualt and after that we run bots
[07:45:05] <Amir1>	 another thing 
[07:45:31] <Amir1>	 Is there any work to do?
[07:45:38] <Amir1>	 for my bot
[09:31:38] <multichill>	 legoktm: Awake?
[09:31:46] <legoktm>	 hi
[09:32:27] <multichill>	 Do you know if we have any stats on how far we are with the import of articles/categories (not the claims, but the sitelinks)
[09:33:30] <legoktm>	 I don't think anyone is keeping track but I suppose you could just do a query
[09:33:31] <legoktm>	 Like
[09:33:46] <legoktm>	 select count(*) from page where page_namespace=0 or page_namespace=14
[09:33:48] <legoktm>	 then
[09:34:24] <legoktm>	 select count(*) from wb_items_per_site where ips_site_id = "xxwiki";
[09:34:56] <legoktm>	 if you really wanted, you could do a more accurate category by joining the two tables
[09:34:58] <multichill>	 Do you have a feeling how much is still missing?
[09:35:05] <legoktm>	 a lot.
[09:35:19] <legoktm>	 well
[09:35:26] <multichill>	 Are we at 1%, 10%, 80% or 99%?
[09:35:45] <legoktm>	 anywhere from 50-80 i'd say
[09:35:52] <legoktm>	 i believe most of enwiki has been imported
[09:35:56] <legoktm>	 so that counts for a lot
[09:36:18] <legoktm>	 lemme run it against enwiki
[09:36:22] <multichill>	 Do nlwiki
[09:36:25] <multichill>	 It's smaller :P
[09:36:25] <legoktm>	 sure
[09:38:15] <legoktm>	 legoktm@nightshade:~/public_html/stats$ cat nl_pages.txt
[09:38:15] <legoktm>	 count(*)
[09:38:15] <legoktm>	 2016974
[09:38:15] <legoktm>	 legoktm@nightshade:~/public_html/stats$ cat imported.txt
[09:38:16] <legoktm>	 count(*)
[09:38:17] <legoktm>	 1226858
[09:38:27] <legoktm>	 so nlwiki is half done.
[09:38:38] <multichill>	 And if you restrict it to namespace 0?
[09:38:53] <legoktm>	 oh crap
[09:38:54] <legoktm>	 thats wrong
[09:38:59] <legoktm>	 we're not counting templates
[09:39:41] <multichill>	 We imported 60171 categories
[09:39:51] <legoktm>	 2043358
[09:39:56] <legoktm>	 hm
[09:40:06] <legoktm>	 restricting to namespace is harder
[09:40:11] <legoktm>	 because wikidata just stores the full title
[09:40:21] <multichill>	 Total of 76729 categories
[09:40:33] <multichill>	 So about 16K categories missing
[09:40:39] <legoktm>	 lemme run my import script against nlwiki's categories
[09:40:56] <multichill>	 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Categorie_zonder_interwiki-link is 12K so that seems about right
[09:41:18] <multichill>	 I did select COUNT(*) from wb_items_per_site WHERE ips_site_id='nlwiki' AND ips_site_page LIKE 'Categorie:%' LIMIT 1;
[09:41:26] <multichill>	 and SELECT COUNT(*) FROM nlwiki_p.page WHERE page_namespace=14 AND page_is_redirect=0 ;
[09:41:30] <legoktm>	 ah
[09:41:59] <legoktm>	 oh wait
[09:42:06] <legoktm>	 my script is already running on nlwiki
[09:42:09] <multichill>	 legoktm: If you run the import script on the subcats of https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Categorie_zonder_interwiki-link you'll have a (very) high hitrate
[09:42:20] <legoktm>	 im just running against allpages
[09:42:41] <multichill>	 That works too
[09:43:08] <legoktm>	 i just need to figure out which of my 4 screen sessions is nlwiki...
[09:43:37] <multichill>	 Just wait until it's finished
[09:44:55] <legoktm>	 :P
[09:45:09] <multichill>	 About 1147998 pages in mainspace in Wikidata
[09:45:18] <multichill>	 Total is 1,399,298
[09:45:38] <legoktm>	 so reasonably close
[09:46:59] <multichill>	 Yes, and in the end some awful query to hunt down the missed pages and a bot to monitor https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:NieuwePaginas
[11:01:28] <jem->	 Hi, legoktm, will the restart of your bot still take long?
[11:01:40] <legoktm>	 im waiting for something on labs to get fixed
[11:01:51] <legoktm>	 it cant access any of the dumps right now
[11:02:17] <jem->	 Ok then
[11:02:39] <jem->	 This thursday we'll have an IRC meeting and I'm sure they will ask me :)
[11:03:20] <legoktm>	 should be back by then :)
[11:22:32] <jem->	 Ok, thanks :)
[11:31:25] <multichill>	 legoktm: Any luck with the years?
[11:31:36] <legoktm>	 they're all queued
[11:32:47] <multichill>	 I have  596,153 pages to process for the Taxo info....
[11:32:47] <legoktm>	 im also working on cracking the new xkcd ;)
[11:32:52] <legoktm>	 o.O
[11:32:56] <multichill>	 linkie?
[11:33:49] <legoktm>	 https://www.xkcd.com/
[11:33:57] <legoktm>	 the hash part is http://almamater.xkcd.com/
[11:34:38] <legoktm>	 the comic is pretty cool
[11:34:53] <legoktm>	 it automatically changes the wikipedia page whenever the one its currently using gets semi'd
[12:04:38] <jeblad>	 sorry for the block legoktm, but I could not resist! xD
[12:05:12] <legoktm>	 moral of the story: Jasper_Deng_away is wayyy too gullible
[12:05:23] <jeblad>	 hehe..
[12:06:07] <jeblad>	 I run a april joke at nowiki and it actually was true..
[12:06:49] <jeblad>	 It was about an encyclopedia in Norway and that it should go open contnent
[12:07:20] <jeblad>	 It did anounce it later that year and next year it was open
[14:48:42] <jeblad>	 So, anyone but me that has been veeeery careful not to been made a fool today?
[14:48:56] <legoktm>	 :P
[14:49:26] <jeblad>	 I felt a little foolish paying almost 3 euro for a bread today, but that is another case..
[14:52:22] <jeblad>	 There is a delete request in Norwegian (bokmål) Wikipedia for deletion of 9th of April. It was the date of the German invasion during WWII.
[15:55:29] <JohnLewis>	 Good day all.
[16:11:52] <kowalzki>	 hello
[16:12:18] <kowalzki>	 i'm wondering if there's a list of projects or products based on wikidata in the wild..?
[16:13:38] <JohnLewis>	 What do you mean Kowalzki?
[16:15:16] <kowalzki>	 well since wikidata or maybe various kinds of raw data from wikipedia is in the wild, I've been wondering if there's a showcase or a project that gives an example of what can be done with it (other than Wikipedia itself of course)
[16:15:45] <tommorris>	 I don't think anyone is reusing Wikidata yet.
[16:15:51] <tommorris>	 It's kind of early days.
[16:16:15] <JohnLewis>	 At most people could be using 'Wikibase' but I agreew with tommorris.
[16:17:03] <jeblad>	 There is a showcase on toolserver, but I don't remember its name
[16:17:50] <kowalzki>	 wait, wiki data isn't the data that's within wikipedia?
[16:24:39] <tommorris>	 kowalzki: wikidata is a project which is going to centrally store that data
[16:25:19] <tommorris>	 kowalzki: so, for instance, eventually Wikipedia articles will use data that's in Wikidata. but others can use it too.
[16:33:22] <kowalzki>	 I think my connection went blank
[16:33:54] <kowalzki>	 so I was asking, will the data be free? as in could anyone make money off of it?
[16:40:39] <tommorris>	 kowalzki: the data is public domain/CC0. you can pretty much do whatever the hell you like with it. ;)
[16:50:36] <Reedy>	 Hmm
[16:50:49] <Reedy>	 I wonder if the initial wikibase point in 1.22wmf1 is ok..
[16:51:59] <Reedy>	 Fix it later if necessary
[17:34:21] <Riley>	 addshore: legoktm: What do we do about items like http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6896876 ? I haven't seen a policy anywhere that says if it is allowed or if it isn't
[17:34:45] <Riley>	 (I am talking about the subpage part)
[17:34:49] <addshore>	 hmmm
[17:34:51] <JohnLewis>	 If would have asked them directly if you didn't know Riley.
[17:34:54] <JohnLewis>	 *I
[17:35:27] <Riley>	 Hahah but now I am also curious to know 
[17:35:47] <JohnLewis>	 We'll both learn.
[17:36:05] <addshore>	 im not entirely sure, looking at its use on en it doesnt look like it is intended to be used as a template on an article, rather as just part of the initial template. 
[17:36:46] <Riley>	 Yea :?
[17:36:58] <addshore>	 and as all wikis templates can work differently even if they iwlink to each other this is probably a unique page, and if there is no policy that says anything about it there probably should be :P
[17:38:04] <addshore>	 thats my 2p ;p
[17:38:22] <JohnLewis>	 It was created with a bot run adding the en interwiki link.
[17:42:42] <jeblad>	 Having a laptop with touch screen creates some really bad habits
[17:43:07] <jeblad>	 Now I have lot of fingerprints on my old non-touchscreen too
[17:43:49] <JohnLewis>	 Jeblad: It is a thing that you do carry on. If you have a touchscreen something, everything is touchscreen now.
[17:44:56] <jeblad>	 I guess I start doublclicking the windows when I want to open them
[17:45:23] <JohnLewis>	 How about closing?
[17:45:46] <jeblad>	 Can't find the [x] ?
[17:46:40] <JohnLewis>	 How would you go about descriptions inregards to aviation?
[17:48:38] <JohnLewis>	 In this case, An airline.
[17:48:41] <jeblad>	 o_O
[17:56:29] <JohnLewis>	 There is a specific description for disambig pages, do we have one for categories/any guidlines or is no description provided?
[18:49:08] <jeblad>	 I keep getting internal error on wikidata
[18:49:30] <jeblad>	 Reedy, anything strange with wikidata?
[18:49:42] <Reedy>	 jeblad: The staff?
[18:49:45] <Reedy>	 Wait, sorry?
[18:49:50] <Reedy>	 Link?
[18:50:08] <Reedy>	 I noticed there's been a lot of segfaults in the apache logs
[18:50:10] <jeblad>	 Yes the staff is very weird, thats for sure
[18:50:25] <jeblad>	 I try to save and gets internal error
[18:50:49] <jeblad>	 Its on the [[WD:GLOSS]] page
[18:50:49] <AsimovBot>	 10[14] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:GLOSS
[18:50:50] <Reedy>	 Every 2.0s: tail -n 1000 /home/wikipedia/syslog/apache.log | grep 'PHP\|Segmentation fault' | grep -v 'filemtime\|failed to mkdir\|GC cache...  Mon Apr  1 18:50:44 2013
[18:50:50] <Reedy>	     562 Segmentation fault (11)
[18:51:02] <Reedy>	 Just need to wait for this scap to finish, shouldn't be long..
[18:54:00] <jeblad>	 Tried a reload  and saving again but still gets..
[18:54:06] <jeblad>	 [3656e335] 2013-04-01 18:53:20: Fatal exception of type MWException
[18:54:21] <jeblad>	 Shall double check the markup
[18:54:58] <Reedy>	 2013-04-01 18:53:20 mw1040 wikidatawiki: [3656e335] /w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Glossary&action=submit   Exception from line 77 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf12/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid marker:UNIQ44a805b2b273dba3-languages-00000049-QIN
[18:55:25] <hoo>	 Translate Extension \o/
[18:55:37] <jeblad>	 Spotted the error, its me..
[18:55:40] <Reedy>	 http://p.defau.lt/?_ySF7inXRIbdSjfG2Hqe1A
[18:55:49] <jeblad>	 A <translate> is missing
[18:56:05] <hoo>	 Reedy: I once opened a bug for that... but it's gone missing
[18:56:24] <hoo>	 oh no, my bugzilla search seems wrong :&
[18:56:54] <hoo>	 Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44608
[19:01:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56569
[19:02:52] <Reedy>	 Yeah, 1.22wmf1 has old Wikibase stuffs
[19:03:07] <hoo>	 Reedy: ?
[19:03:25] <Reedy>	  162         'DataValues' => 'mw1.21-wmf11',
[19:03:25] <Reedy>	  163         'Diff' => 'mw1.21-wmf11',
[19:03:25] <Reedy>	  164         'MobileFrontend' => 'production',
[19:03:25] <Reedy>	  165         'Wikibase' => 'mw1.21-wmf11',
[19:05:30] <hoo>	 Oh, I dunno, we certainly have a branch for 1.22 maybe it's supposed to go live on it's own? aude_?
[19:05:49] <Reedy>	 Well, at least what is in 1.21wmf12 needs to be in 1.22wmf1 ;)
[19:06:07] <hoo>	 Oh for sure, those shouldn't be older :P
[19:06:47] <Reedy>	 :D
[19:08:00] <Reedy>	 mw1.21-wmf12 and mw1.21-wmf12b
[19:09:20] <hoo>	 Dunno why it's 12b... but it got backports of some changes I did recently
[19:09:21] <jeblad>	 thanks for the help reedy! :)
[19:29:01] <hoo>	 "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged"
[19:36:41] <jem->	 Hi everyone
[19:37:16] <jem->	 I'd like to point you to a new command of my bot which I think will be of interest here:
[19:37:26] <jem->	 -d A
[19:37:26] <AsimovBot>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle//A
[19:37:40] <jem->	 Mmmmmmm
[19:37:46] <jem->	 -d es:A
[19:37:46] <AsimovBot>	 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/es/A
[20:14:40] <jem->	 Should be fixed now
[20:14:44] <jem->	 -d A
[20:14:44] <AsimovBot>	 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/wikidatawiki/A
[20:14:54] <jem->	 That's correct
[20:15:01] <jem->	 -d en:A
[20:15:01] <AsimovBot>	 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/enwiki/A
[20:15:07] <jem->	 -d q:fr:A
[20:15:08] <AsimovBot>	 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/frwikiquote/A
[20:15:38] <jem->	 -d gl:n:A
[20:15:38] <AsimovBot>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle/glwikinews/A
[20:16:04] <jem->	 Hmmmm, should have been two lines
[20:16:44] <jem->	 [[A]] [[B]]
[20:16:45] <AsimovBot>	 04[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/A13 =>
[20:16:47] <AsimovBot>	 04[2] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/B
[20:17:55] <jem->	 [1] [2] [[Help:label]]
[20:17:55] <AsimovBot>	 04[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/A13 =>
[20:17:57] <AsimovBot>	 04[2] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/B13 =>
[20:17:59] <AsimovBot>	 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:label
[20:18:21] <jem->	 Good enough for the moment
[20:42:47] <multichill>	 legoktm: We should make easier wikidata bots which people can just run from the commandline
[20:43:20] <multichill>	 Like: Take every article from a generator. If <some property> is not set, set it to <some value>
[20:43:40] <multichill>	 That would be the killer bot for the next couple of months
[20:55:25] <Qcoder00>	 JohnLewis: Ping?
[20:55:38] <JohnLewis>	 Not literally...
[20:55:50] <Qcoder00>	 As I was saying, can't you set up a Wikidata page to cross reference your user pags?
[20:56:19] <Qcoder00>	 Adding a cross link from other wikis is then much more straightforard
[20:56:35] <Qcoder00>	 (and could in time allow for cross wiki messaging...)
[20:56:55] <Qcoder00>	 I.e You get messaged on your home wiki about something on Commons (like image deletions)
[20:57:39] <Qcoder00>	 Lack of cross wiki messaging , mostly from Commons to Local projects is something concerns have been raised about at least twice that I know about