[03:15:47] Q11000000 was skipped [03:15:48] :( [08:38:07] should I use P143 for a magazine, where the information was published in the source section? [08:40:51] hi [08:40:54] [[P:P143]] [08:40:56] 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/P:P143 [08:41:10] hmmmm [08:41:31] what about [[P:P248]] ? [08:41:32] 10[4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/P:P248 [08:41:44] or [[P:P433]]? [08:41:45] 10[5] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/P:P433 [08:43:11] Hi, legoktm :) [08:43:26] hi :) [08:46:57] legoktm ? [08:47:36] hi [08:50:49] legoktm: p433 is for the issue of a magazine. You need an item for the magazine to [08:50:55] o [08:57:56] legoktm: Did you ever finish the year thingie [08:57:58] ? [08:58:17] er, which year thingy? [08:58:33] oh that one [08:58:35] Linking years, decades, centuries etc [08:58:35] i think so? [08:59:19] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1998 is not in the decade [09:00:24] I think you started working on it, but didn't finish it [09:01:04] legoktm: It's for publishions from the german "Bundesanzeiger", about awards of decorations. because that, I think p248 is not correct. what do you mean? [09:01:57] Pyfisch: I'm not really sure. I always thought "imported from" was more for mass-imports of data, or if we don't know the specific source, but know a general one [09:02:05] multichill: I found the script, let me see if its complete. [09:04:07] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q33488&action=history [09:04:22] i'm not sure why it never finished. [09:06:17] Probably a missing article :P [09:07:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/800s_%28decade%29 [09:07:21] That probably screws up your bot [09:07:59] wtf [09:08:24] ahhhh [09:08:29] all the century ones [09:08:33] have (decade) [09:08:33] bleh [09:08:52] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23494 <- ouch [09:10:03] Why do we have articles like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/700s ? [09:10:05] there are probably more of those. [09:10:23] to disambiguate the century from the decade [09:10:47] Shouldn't have the decade box in it if it's a disambiguation [09:12:48] people are stupid >.< [09:15:24] legoktm: Its mass import in a way. It's work for my bot. about 9000 items should be changed [09:19:57] Pyfisch: makes sense then i guess. [09:29:47] legoktm: Anyway, are you going to work on the years? I can have a shot at the decades [09:31:02] i have a script running for years right now [09:32:07] Great. Also fixing the (decade) thing? [09:32:52] yeah [09:32:58] if year.endswith('00'): [09:32:58] x += ' (decade)' [09:33:24] Ok, I meant the existing mistakes [09:33:48] yeah im writing something up for that right now [09:44:14] legoktm: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/ViscoBot is approved [09:44:28] ok [09:44:43] flagged :) [09:44:49] :) [10:12:10] legoktm: Running on all the decades right now [10:12:15] :D [10:12:35] The naming of the Dutch Wikipedia is very straightforward so that makes it easy [10:12:41] 1010-1019 [10:13:13] for i in xrange (20, 2000, 10): currentTitle = u'%s-%s' % (i, i+9) precededTitle = u'%s-%s' % (i-10, i-1) succeededTitle = u'%s-%s' % (i+10, i+19) [10:13:24] heh [10:13:30] nice [10:14:11] In Dutch we don't talk about the 1980's, but just about the 80s, we don't have a long form [10:19:20] I'm gonna take a nap now, the script should be done running I think. [11:23:31] Sk1d: accept the invite! :P [12:04:58] mhm... http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/F705i seems to use a bot on his normal account? [12:05:14] it spams the RC.. [12:09:47] How to update an item's several fields by one edit? I cant find magic button for it [12:15:26] Base: I don't think that is possible yet. It is possible with a bot using the api [12:16:54] ive posted a message [12:17:16] If he don´t stops within a few mins I´ll block the acocunt [12:17:18] Ok i dont care what to use the api or the interface [12:17:53] the interface can only do one field at the time [12:18:09] a bot can do with the API several fields [12:28:26] I´ve warned him another time and now the account is getting a block [13:44:29] Wiki13: Just do a short one, like 10 minutes, it will kill the bot [13:44:43] A day is way too much [14:07:45] Wiki13: is it possible to detect if someone is using a gadget when editing? I wonder how you knew F705i is using a bot [14:22:59] lbenedix1: well, the edit rate maybe? I´ll change the duration btw [14:23:02] sorry [14:23:05] was afk [14:23:58] np [14:24:22] is editing with a gadget the same like running a bot? [14:25:22] lbenedix1: it was a long running gadget then [14:26:07] Have you ever used cat-a-lot Wiki13? It's a script, but makes you look like a bot on steroids ;-) [14:26:24] yes... [14:26:41] bu that script doesn´t run for 20 mins... [14:26:46] or even more [14:26:50] right? [14:27:00] Talking about bots, I remember that I was working on one. [14:27:08] No, it's less than a minute [14:28:16] I´ve unblocked the account now [14:28:27] * aude waves [14:28:53] * aude puts on wikidata editor hat :) [14:30:14] can see a use for a gadget for adding claims [14:30:25] for similar type items [14:31:22] could allow a human to go a bit faster [14:31:52] I´ve never seen that one in the gadgets section [14:33:34] hmmm [14:34:05] i think he was using the create claim api module and not sure if the UI uses that one or a gadget [14:34:43] or a user script..... [14:35:36] aude: I think it was http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-properties.js [14:36:06] * aude looks [14:36:39] I don´t know when it was added to gadgets-definition [14:36:56] but I never seen it until now.. [14:39:16] looks interesting [14:40:01] i'm not convicced though [14:40:18] looks like that one is for requesting a bot to do a set of tasks [14:40:42] oh [14:43:42] probably having what he's doing be done with a bot account would be good, in my opinion [14:45:03] New review: Mormegil; "Why do we have double-line height everywhere? When a value contains a longer text which breaks, the ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27390 [14:45:40] yes [14:45:55] I can´t find the tool in the definitions [14:46:04] or looks maybe semi-automated or supervised [14:46:16] like http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7366&action=history [14:46:25] he sees it made a mistake and he undid that one [14:46:43] anyway..... [14:46:54] mhm [14:47:40] If sees that, he should´ve seen my message on right? [14:47:46] his talkpage [14:47:52] sure [14:48:02] wait and see what he says :) [14:49:35] yea [14:51:15] can someone mark http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Community_portal for translation please? [14:51:28] added a link to the list of properties there [14:51:52] sure [14:52:08] thanks [14:57:05] alright, back later [15:04:24] will transactions be possible with the wikidata-website? So I could create a new item, add several statements and links and save all together with a click on a "publish" Button? [17:12:51] New patchset: Amire80; "Fix English spelling" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60118 [17:24:46] legoktm: Awake yet? [17:38:55] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60118 [18:16:01] anyone speak farsi? [18:17:08] is there a place to request help for particular languages? [18:17:50] unfortunately not [18:18:38] :( [18:19:07] * aude has doubts that the english label of http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5712562 should be "London" [18:19:31] google translate indicates otherwise but i don't know farsi very well to judge [18:19:45] e.g. google suggests a different label [18:19:56] * aude shall just leave it [18:53:25] * aude curious what the wikidata "Extracted page abstracts for Yahoo" are like? :D [18:53:28] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20130417/ [19:07:51] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8834456 has to be my favorite item :o [19:13:01] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8826828 heh [19:13:07] Hi guys – is there an easy way to turn off the irritating JavaScript note about CC-0? [19:13:12] it drives me crazy. [19:15:36] odder: it should just dismiss the first time, like the banners and stick but apparently that's not happening some cases? [19:15:49] * aude tries to get the notice [19:17:33] aude: no, I'm seeing it every time I log out of Wikidata (lost session, etc.) [19:17:53] And now I can't even dismiss it. [19:19:31] :( [19:19:34] rschen7754: Hi. [19:19:44] rschen7754: just FYI — you don't have to be 18 to identify to the WMF. [19:20:03] odder: but you /do/ have to have parental permission, right? [19:20:26] I can imagine a 13 year old sending a picture of their ID to the WMF [19:20:33] So can I [19:20:44] but, they probably aren't eligible for CU/OS anyways [19:21:33] odder: trying to reproduce the issue [19:21:46] cleared my cookie [19:24:12] hmm, it won't let me dismiss it [19:24:18] definitely a bug [19:25:22] Jasper_Deng: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Defining_oversighters&diff=28293243&oldid=28262189 [19:26:14] * Jasper_Deng saw, is stalking it in his on IRC chan [19:28:40] BTW, http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Defining_oversighters#Minimum_of_2_holders is unnecessary [19:28:53] Jasper_Deng: Not eligible? Sure right. You need to be 18 and age of majority. [19:29:15] it's down in the global policy that a wiki has to have at least two oversighters, I don't know why you're even discussing this. [19:29:23] odder: True. The foundation requires a min of 2. [19:29:34] Though local policy can state we need a min of 3. [19:29:35] odder: it's there b/c some people might oppose it /in favor of/ having 3+ [19:30:56] then you should only have that option available [19:31:31] it isn't up to you to decide that you agree to have two oversighters :) [19:32:18] it doesn't matter what the community thinks anyways [19:32:36] besides, most opposers are only because they want more than 2 [19:33:16] I also think it might be a good idea to have oversighters log their actions publicly somehow [19:33:33] like a limited log? [19:33:58] let me show you some links... [19:34:34] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight/Logbuch [19:34:57] that would require community consensus too [19:35:08] or https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Oversighters/Statistics [19:35:10] Logging oversights is similar to sysop revdelling oversightable materials. It attracts attention. [19:35:25] Great. [19:35:29] *attracts unwanted attention [19:35:39] There is, however, no way to verify this. [19:35:51] How so? [19:36:00] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight/Logbuch [19:36:10] Can you tell me what was oversighters by looking at this page? [19:36:16] was oversighted** [19:36:56] hi odder, you here? [19:37:03] No, but if an article (item in this case) as multiple oversights, that article will most likely gain unwanted attention. [19:37:23] JohnLewis: You are aware how suppression works, right? [19:37:37] I am fulyl aware of how suppression works. [19:37:43] *fully [19:37:48] As in "There is no way for non-oversighters to tell what was oversighted." [19:38:00] multichill: just coming by [19:38:23] Yes that is true. It is similar to 'There is not way for non-sysop to tell what was revdelled.' [19:38:47] It will still attract attention regardless. [19:39:13] I can't understand how this would be possible. [19:39:15] That is why the supression log is private. [19:39:43] Propose public logging if you want though. [19:41:49] Odder; Hahc21 has a view on the matter of publically logging oversight actions. [19:42:50] Oversight actions are meant to be hidden. [19:43:00] Thats the whole purpose of oversight. [19:43:02] :P [19:43:21] would you be OK w/ letting sysops view a log, Hahc21? [19:43:27] (a limited log, that is) [19:43:48] Jasper_Deng: I see that as better than a public log so I would agree to that. [19:44:05] For the purposes of transparency, and because I know that such thing is possible, I would be okay with that [19:44:08] in any case, let's discuss this after our RfC [19:44:24] After all, what we are hiding i the content [19:44:53] JohnLewis: such a pseudolog (or just the stats that we use on Commons) are not revealing anything besides the numbers [19:45:07] * Jasper_Deng is once again corrected by odder [19:45:15] :) [19:45:27] Well [19:45:37] I'm against letting everyone watch the suppression log [19:45:49] but I'm okay with sysops being able to take a look [19:45:57] ? [19:46:23] I find the suppression log similar to the abuse filter private log [19:46:31] Hahc21: it should be limited IMO [19:46:42] Hahc21: here's what we're doing on Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Oversighters/Statistics [19:46:49] it's just like the CU log if you let the content be revealed [19:46:56] odder: Let me take a look [19:47:59] odder: I am in favour of doing something like that on Wikidata [19:49:07] odder: Already editing a bit? We still have over a 1M monuments to import here :P [19:49:09] odder: What you just link and what you described were two different things. The one you link to, I agree with as that is also done on enwiki. [19:49:49] multichill: yes, I have some edits on Wikidata :) [19:50:10] odder: ehh, https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=28308176&oldid=28304841&rcid=28329109 <-- I think you must be /both/, not just one of them [19:50:11] JohnLewis: no, I linked to the German pseudolog before [19:50:25] The issue is that we'd have to create a new, secondary log [19:50:26] (i.e. if your country's age of majority is 20, you're only eligible when you're that age) [19:50:29] so there are at least two different approach to do that [19:51:10] I tried to stay away, but looks like I already have more than a thousand edits, oh and the bot already 200.000 [19:51:49] Jasper_Deng: then how do you write XOR (exlusive disjunction) in plain English? [19:52:34] hm. not. that. [19:52:35] odder: the global policy reads "at least 18 years of age *and* the age of majority in the jurisdiction in which they reside" [19:53:28] true. [19:54:06] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3ARequests_for_comment%2FDefining_oversighters&diff=28310613&oldid=28310476 [19:54:48] Jasper_Deng: I think in some countries, Age of majority is about 13. [19:55:05] yeah, that's also a reason why there's an /and/ not an /or/ [19:55:10] the candidate must be 18 /and/ over age of majority [19:55:18] Indeed. [19:56:10] Yes, I fixed that already. [19:57:26] Damn, we have two users with more than 100.000 edits (Art-top and Docu). That's a lot of clicking... [19:57:35] both use scripts [19:57:36] they use a script [19:57:52] And Ch1902? [19:57:53] (and Docu failed his RfA partly due to that, so it's not like we absolutely condone it) [19:58:30] I think Docu failed 5 or 6 RFA's at Commons [19:58:40] o_O [20:00:51] multichill: I see a Docu 5.... :/ [20:00:52] yeah, i would like to do a log similar to the commons table, so we know who's doing the OS-ing and who's slacking :P [20:01:57] odder: most OTRS queues do not require ID to the WMF [20:02:19] 5 RFAs!!?? [20:02:26] rschen7754: how long have you been on OTRS? [20:02:28] on Commons, Hahc21 [20:02:34] odder: september 2012 [20:02:39] and i did not need to identify [20:02:43] wow, I'm still surprised he's still an admin at en.wiki [20:02:48] Ah. Yes. It explains. [20:03:49] multichill: I am now ;) [20:03:54] rschen7754: Do any queues actually require it? I asked an OTRS admin out of interest and they said to their knowledge no queue requires it for now. [20:04:23] rschen7754: BTW, I specifically wrote "you can identify for other things (for instance OTRS access) when you're just 16." [20:04:40] hello, I'd like to link enwiki Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev and frwiki Frères Tsarnaïev but none of them can be found on wikidata with the search methods [20:04:48] odder: You can identity at any time if you have proper identity. [20:04:52] Welcome back sleepy head. So, about time, millenia done (insane range), centuries done from 36th before to 25th or something insane like that [20:05:19] JohnLewis: I wrote that somewhere in the scrollback too :) [20:05:27] Ok. [20:05:30] Decenia done ad, bc is partly done, but mostly tagged so easy to hunt down. So what's the status on the years? [20:05:58] enwiki -> "Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev" frwiki -> "Frères Tsarnaïev" can anyone help merging them ? I don't even have the item identifiers [20:06:11] JohnLewis: I am not really sure, but just imagine that there are CU or OS using OTRS instead of mailing list... [20:06:38] They don't require identification. Just t he rights. [20:06:49] Which require identification. [20:07:02] JohnLewis: i heard donations does [20:07:12] Really rschen7754? [20:07:19] ah. [20:07:26] also possibly some Wikimania-related queues. [20:07:45] but they're pretty odd queues, none of the queues that normal volunteers would run into require it [20:08:09] nowadays the OTRS admins ask for your real name and age, but you don't have to verify it [20:08:41] not sure about the age tho [20:08:43] :) [20:08:52] they asked my age [20:08:56] when I applied [20:09:03] legoktm: ^^ [20:09:19] Hahc21: when I asked for some account to be created, nobody asked any questions :-P [20:09:19] They asked mine when I applied. But was turned down. Wanted to reapply lately but never did. [20:09:27] it's illegal, I think, at least in the US, for websites to collect info from those under 13 [20:09:36] that the WMF allows younger people to edit is a grey zone [20:09:46] (w/o parental permission) [20:09:48] same for Facebook. [20:10:01] and Twitter, and lots of other sites. [20:10:04] Facebook is bad at enforcing it, but I'd think the WMF is better [20:10:29] I can't imagine how you'd make people state their real age. [20:10:39] Jasper_Deng: They assume the user have parental permission. If not, soon they will be found out and indeffed. (as previous occurances) [20:10:43] multichill: Found a random bug which made it crash at 800s again. Fixed and started it again [20:11:11] JohnLewis: I think I knew at least one admin who was 14 or so. [20:11:21] enwiki has a teenage 'crat [20:11:30] Not sure about < 13s, though [20:11:35] I know admins who were 14 etc. [20:11:50] rschen7754: Weren't you about 15 when gaining sysop? [20:11:55] yes [20:11:57] he was [20:21:45] aude: how about my bug? :) [20:24:29] I need a favour [20:24:39] Can somebody take a look at this proposal of property [20:24:58] I think they are necessary and I'm about to create them, but more input is always good [20:24:58] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#Scores [20:30:25] (and nobody comments...) [20:45:55] legoktm: I applied a workaround for your category recursion [20:46:34] ok, ill apply a real fix tonight [20:46:59] You shouldn't leave the bot in such a broken state for so long [20:48:10] sorry :x [20:50:14] This gives you extra time, I unbroke it :P [20:55:17] odder: ok found the issue [20:58:43] odder: aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47435 [21:02:14] Lydia_WMDE: the IE8 fix seems to cause this :/ [21:02:29] aude: ohnoes... [21:02:33] thanks Lydia_WMDE [21:02:53] Lydia_WMDE: yeah :( [21:03:24] so how about setting importance to highest? immediate? [21:05:35] BTW, can anyone link me to a chane that broke it? [21:06:59] also, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?emailcc1=1&resolution=---&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&email1=wikidata-bugs%2540lists.wikimedia.org&list_id=195718 doesn't seem to work. [21:09:03] odder: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/58065/ [21:09:27] i'm preparing a patch but it won't solve all the problems [21:09:38] e.g. keep IE8 fixed and this :/ [21:10:24] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team&diff=28354018&oldid=28261526 [21:24:36] Lydia_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE fyi think i ran into https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47461 today [21:24:59] aude: ok [21:26:38] * addshore is getting rather a lot more hits on his page since it got posted in the newsletter [21:28:34] try to see if/how i get it again, and make note [21:28:40] thought it was just me.... [21:41:19] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 47435) Fix problem with dismissing copyright notice" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60133 [21:49:56] Hi all [21:50:36] I am trying to get a server instance or two in labs : https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Project_Request/wikidataquery [21:50:57] hi magnusmanske, we don't see you here a lot :-) [21:51:00] I keep getting the CC0 confirming... :S [21:51:22] multichill: Not often on IRC [21:51:31] Should I go for "wikidata-dev", and would you let me in? [21:51:40] Or should I try for a separate project? [21:52:42] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 47435) Fix problem with dismissing copyright notice" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60133 [21:55:06] magnusmanske: i think it would be ok, but need to check with the team [21:56:06] i don't see a problem [21:56:15] aude: Thanks. I have something really exciting ready to go, and am itching to deploy :-) [21:56:27] yes :) [21:56:30] sounds cool [21:57:01] magnusmanske: is this the being able to query properties that you posted on one of the mailing lists? [21:57:16] * multichill pokes aude about the maps instance [21:57:21] Yup. Using the April 17 dump data. [21:57:24] multichill: heh [21:57:34] you are in the project and can make an instance [21:57:44] * aude not sure how much space we need, etc. [21:57:51] magnusmanske: Today we linked all the time objects (years, decades, centuries and millenia) [21:58:04] I'm sure we could do something cool with that [21:58:13] :) [21:58:28] Start small aude, we can always make it bigger [21:58:35] multichill: k [21:59:19] multichill: if we need another public ip, we need to poke ryan [21:59:26] multichill: That would be coll. My current demo queries include: Places in the U.S. that are named after Francis of Assisi / All items in the taxonomy of the Komodo dragon / All animals on Wikidata / Bridges in Germany / Bridges across the Danube [21:59:43] Looking into hot-adding daily dumps [21:59:46] magnusmanske: nice [22:00:09] what kind of db engine do you use? [22:00:22] aude: Self-rolled in memory structure [22:00:28] response times <100ms [22:00:32] magnusmanske: Nice, did you also see the royal ~~incest~~ family three? It got really big [22:00:40] *tree [22:01:01] multichill: yeah, that might take a second or two :-) [22:01:02] magnusmanske: cool [22:01:08] Yes, I'm quite sure we need a public ip aude. Not much use of a web service if you can't reach it [22:01:16] multichill: made an instance [22:01:21] true [22:01:39] the 2 ips in the project are very much taken [22:01:46] * aude won't touch them [22:01:59] magnusmanske: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Elizabeth_II_to_Charlemagne_ancestry.svg is quite static [22:02:20] I'm adding taxobox info right now. I know some other people are adding massive amounts of country data right now [22:03:40] I was talking with Oren about using wikidata to feed Solr/Lucene to play around with Facet search [22:03:50] So some subject by time/location/... etc [22:04:57] multichill: so when are we moving WLM to Wikidata? [22:05:15] multichill: My new toy only has item-property-item links at the moment, but no reason to exclude string/date/number/location data later [22:05:44] multichill: memory footprint at the moment only ~100MB [22:05:58] We don't have all the datatypes yet. I did notice that a lot of Rijksmonuments got imported recently [22:06:06] That's next to nothing [22:06:52] I have all the commons categories as parent -> child in a db on the toolserver. Filling it is a nightmare, but 8 levels of recursion without blinking your eyes [22:07:31] But categories suck, I want to have claims :P [22:16:36] multichill: categories are just claims using a single property ;-) [22:17:06] We should create that property: [22:17:40] that exists [22:17:44] use "somevalue" [22:20:22] How would you model an intersected category like "Churches in Amsterdam" ? [22:22:26] what do you mean? [22:22:37] you would tag instance of-->church location-->amsterdam [22:24:57] claimit.py -lang:en -subcatsr:Churches -namespace:14 ? [22:25:37] You need to watch out for "List of Churches in blah" and stuff though [22:26:12] We should probably just prefix tag all list of articles as being an instance of list [22:26:21] So we don't risk tagging them as something else too [22:26:40] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists [22:26:46] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_lists [22:26:54] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists [22:27:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists_of_lists was deleted xD [22:27:40] My bot already tagged all the lists of lists though [22:27:55] ok, great [22:29:06] Many "List of" entries have "!" as the category sort key, maybe we can exclude that way [22:29:52] yeah, i looked into that, i just found it easier to skip any page that starts with "List" [22:30:40] There is also a "main article" for some categories that does not really belong into the category as a member [22:30:49] Won't have a prefix [22:31:02] true [22:31:22] when my bot takes requests, it lets the user exclude a certain page or prefix from the articles to be tagged [22:32:01] toolserver has sortkey in category links table [22:32:17] we could make a list of "don't use" pages per category easily [22:32:29] based on "!" [22:36:58] thanks JeroenDeDauw [22:38:23] JeroenDeDauw: but when will it be fixed that CC0 keeping appearing? [22:41:42]