[02:28:54] * Sven_Manguard  throws legos at legoktm

[02:29:08] <legoktm>	 hey!
[02:29:20] <legoktm>	 I'd throw something at you but I'm not sure what a sven is.
[04:11:24] * legoktm  hugs Hazard-SJ 

[04:11:56] * Hazard-SJ  sighs

[04:12:05] <legoktm>	 did you ever get a chance to write that RfBot archiver?
[04:12:17] <Hazard-SJ>	 Not yet
[04:12:45] <legoktm>	 ok
[04:12:55] <Hazard-SJ>	 I came online fairly late and was working on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Requests/Hazard-Bot_7
[04:13:04] <legoktm>	 i started working on an implicatorbot clone
[04:13:54] <legoktm>	 oh
[04:14:03] <legoktm>	 Hazard-SJ: you just need to update the "Commons category" property
[04:16:31] <Hazard-SJ>	 legoktm: That exists :O
[04:16:36] * Hazard-SJ  sighs and looks

[04:16:54] <legoktm>	 look at the linked item again
[04:18:25] <Hazard-SJ>	 Found it
[04:18:51] * Hazard-SJ  tries to figure out how to find it via the API

[04:19:30] <legoktm>	 the problem is
[04:19:37] <legoktm>	 there's no way to go from commons cat --> item
[04:19:52] <legoktm>	 you could o
[04:20:01] <legoktm>	 commons cat --> wp article --> item
[04:26:43] <Hazard-SJ>	 legoktm: What's the best way to do that?
[04:27:59] <legoktm>	 ok, so you start with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mr._Hankey,_the_Christmas_Poo
[04:28:10] <legoktm>	 then you go to the en article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Hankey,_the_Christmas_Poo
[04:28:20] <legoktm>	 at which point you end up at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q927930
[04:29:27] <legoktm>	 i *think* multichill has a mysql db of all the commons categories
[04:29:34] <legoktm>	 with their items
[04:31:50] <Hazard-SJ>	 legoktm: From either the {{w}} or {{Sisterwikipedia}}, I'm assuming, but in which case, they don't exist for all cats.
[04:31:57] <legoktm>	 Yeah
[04:32:02] <legoktm>	 So basically it's going to a pain
[04:32:20] <legoktm>	 You should talk to multichill though
[04:32:27] <legoktm>	 He imported 99% of all the commonscat properties
[04:33:27] <Hazard-SJ>	 legoktm: And speaking of mysql, I think I might have found a task you might be able to do via MySQL, otherwise I'll do it via API
[04:33:39] <legoktm>	 Oh what is it?
[04:34:22] <Hazard-SJ>	 https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Bots#Bot_job_request_--_identify_long_stub_articles
[04:38:27] <legoktm>	 bleh
[04:38:31] <legoktm>	 I don't help simple
[04:38:32] <legoktm>	 But
[04:38:37] <legoktm>	 I'll show you where the query is
[04:38:53] <legoktm>	 https://github.com/mzmcbride/database-reports/blob/master/enwiki/longstubs.py
[04:41:18] <Susan>	 Heh.
[04:43:30] <legoktm>	 Hi Susan
[04:44:05] <Hazard-SJ>	 OK, thanks, legoktm. I assume "mzmcbride" pinged Susan? :P
[04:46:27] <Susan>	 Or database-reports.
[04:48:31] <Hazard-SJ>	 :P
[07:55:25] <russavia>	 hey all i need to report a problem
[07:55:30] <legoktm>	 sup?
[07:55:43] <russavia>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3050758 needs to be merged with http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2481769
[07:56:39] <legoktm>	 {{done}}
[07:57:20] <russavia>	 t
[07:57:21] <russavia>	 tx
[07:57:38] <legoktm>	 in the future you can do it yourself :P
[07:57:48] <legoktm>	 :x
[10:58:02] <Denny_WMDE>	 anyone want to make an adhoc task force and annotate all wikipedia languages with the wikimedia language property?
[10:58:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 i am 80 down, 200 to go :)
[12:36:39] <Wiki13>	 mhm, I get  Saving the translation failed: Unknown error: "tpt-translation-restricted" when I want to save one particular translation of as page...
[12:37:12] <Wiki13>	 does anyone here know what the error means and why I can´t save the transaltion?
[12:37:17] <Wiki13>	 translation*
[12:37:30] <legoktm>	 whats the page and what language?
[12:38:12] <Wiki13>	 Dutch and it is the display title of [[Wikidata:Bots]]
[12:38:13] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bots
[12:38:37] <legoktm>	 oh yeah
[12:38:49] <legoktm>	 so that page wasnt finalized and someone marked it for translation
[12:38:53] <legoktm>	 and it got translated in italian
[12:38:56] <Wiki13>	 -.-
[12:39:09] <legoktm>	 but since it wasnt finalized, we restricted translation to italian so we didnt lose the existing one
[12:39:35] <Wiki13>	 oh
[12:39:38] <Wiki13>	 :/
[12:40:09] <Wiki13>	 but the error isn´t that informative to be hinest
[12:40:11] <Wiki13>	 honest
[12:40:39] <legoktm>	 yeah....
[14:26:05] <hoo>	 Our Qunit code coverage is rather poor :/
[15:18:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Refactor wikibase.store - introduce AbstractedRepoApi" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58223
[15:34:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hoo man; "Refactor wikibase.store - introduce AbstractedRepoApi" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58223
[15:55:59] <liangent>	 hello Denny_WMDE
[16:14:16] <hoo|away>	 aude: The whole refactor only gave us about 15-20% less data to load for linkItem :| I hoped for much more...
[16:19:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Factor ClientStoreFactory into WikibaseClient." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59711
[16:25:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59711
[17:04:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Moved class registration of WikibaseRepo extension into dedicated file" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60209
[17:07:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove obsolete test files" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60210
[17:13:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove obsolete test files" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60210
[17:33:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 hi liangent
[17:52:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove usage of LibRegistry from WBC extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60213
[17:57:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove usage of LibRegistry in ClaimSaver" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60214
[17:58:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove usage of LibRegistry in WBR API" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60215
[18:00:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove usage of LibRegistry in WBR SpecialPages" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60216
[18:05:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Use Property->setDataTypeId rather then ->setDataType so no DataType construction is needed" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60217
[18:13:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Moved class registration of WikibaseLib into dedicated file" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60218
[18:37:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Load only lib and repo settings for repo" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60219
[18:37:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Load only lib and client settings for client" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60220
[18:42:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60218
[18:48:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Move HashArray from lib to DataModel, as it is directly needed in DataModel and not in lib" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60221
[18:57:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Move classes from lib to DataModel, as they are directly needed in DataModel and not in lib" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60221
[19:18:12] <lbenedix1>	 can someone tell me how many subscribers the wikidata-mailinglist has?
[19:26:39] <Reedy>	 > 0
[19:42:27] <Denny_WMDE>	 lbenedix1: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/roster/wikidata-l
[19:43:57] <lbenedix1>	 thanks! Is there such a site for all mailinglists?
[19:44:44] <JohnLewis>	 lbenedix1: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo
[19:45:32] * lbenedix1  tries to remember his pass for wikitech-l

[19:46:08] <lbenedix1>	 (The subscribers list is only available to the list administrator.)
[19:46:58] <Denny_WMDE>	 gn
[19:47:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 tries to remember his pass for wikitech-l
[19:47:22] <lbenedix1>	 hehe
[19:49:03] <Denny_WMDE>	 nope, my password doesn't work
[19:50:18] <lbenedix1>	 I asked for the number of subscribers on wikitech yesterday and I was told that its 1555
[19:50:50] <Denny_WMDE>	 ask lydia tomorrow
[19:51:04] <lbenedix1>	 I got all I need
[19:51:09] <Denny_WMDE>	 she has this kind of numbers
[19:51:29] <lbenedix1>	 would have been great if the subsriberlist of wikitech was public
[19:51:56] * lbenedix1  dont understand why the list is only visible to admins... the mails with adresses are public...

[19:53:45] <Jasper_Deng>	 to prevent spamming, I'd assume
[19:54:18] <lbenedix1>	 my spambot would harvest the archive for mail-adresses
[19:55:49] <lbenedix1>	 the list of actual subscribers might be smaller than the list of all contributors to the list
[20:15:42] <Denny_WMDE>	 dunno why
[20:16:01] <Denny_WMDE>	 is it the subcriberlist for wikien-l or wikitech-l non-public
[20:16:03] <Denny_WMDE>	 ?
[20:27:18] <lbenedix1>	 yepp
[20:27:36] <lbenedix1>	 on listinfo of wikitech-l you can read: (The subscribers list is only available to the list administrator.)
[20:30:58] <Denny_WMDE>	 well, then it's for consistency
[21:07:52] <rschen7754>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikidata_Phase_2
[21:09:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 rschen7754: thx - will have a look
[21:10:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 rschen7754: looks good :)  happy to finally see that coming together
[21:11:01] <rschen7754>	 yeah, i didn't write it though :P
[21:11:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hehe
[21:11:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 fair enough
[21:35:30] <shimgray>	 rschen7754, it's interesting, but I think there's a conceptual gap
[21:35:50] <rschen7754>	 on the RFC?
[21:35:52] <shimgray>	 the RFC talks about infoboxes and article text, but doesn't really consider non-infobox article elements such as lists or tables
[21:36:26] <shimgray>	 Wikidata in running prose is crazy, I agree, but wikidata used to create, say, a list of all the towns in a county and their populations and so on, could be really valuable.
[21:36:31] <shimgray>	 *nods*
[21:36:47] <rschen7754>	 shimgray: that's phase 3
[21:37:40] <shimgray>	 we can use it in phase 2, though. as soon as you can invoke the wikidata information for a different page to the one you're on, you'll be able to make lists/tables
[21:38:25] <shimgray>	 ie, line 1 is city [q100000], so population is [population:q100000], etc.
[21:38:38] <shimgray>	 phase 3 is more about the software generating it all for you :-)
[21:39:27] <rschen7754>	 i suppose
[23:14:39] <Jasper_Deng>	 JohnLewis: what did I tell you about making mass requests?
[23:14:56] <JohnLewis>	 Whoops. Sorry.
[23:15:54] <Riley>	 JohnLewis: Whats the problem?
[23:16:05] <JohnLewis>	 Riley: Huh?
[23:16:10] <Riley>	 Jasper_Deng: * 
[23:16:11] <Riley>	 :P
[23:16:38] <Jasper_Deng>	 Riley: he posted all those requests individually, so now you get to go on a frenzy of marking them done. also idk why you requested deletion, being a sysop, but I guess you're unsure/involved.
[23:17:30] <Riley>	 Jasper_Deng: No editor is required to make batch requests, besides, it takes much longer. As for me, I was testing how the tool worked since I have never used it.
[23:17:44] * Jasper_Deng  wasn't /forcing/ JohnLewis to

[23:17:50] <Jasper_Deng>	 Riley: it just makes more work for you and I
[23:18:30] <Riley>	 If it is too much work for you, don't delete the pages.
[23:18:37] <Jasper_Deng>	 that isn't it
[23:18:47] <Jasper_Deng>	 it's then marking them all as done
[23:19:15] <Riley>	 If it is too much work for you, don't get involved in the process by deleting the pages* 
[23:19:33] <Jasper_Deng>	 nothing is too much
[23:19:43] <Jasper_Deng>	 it's just a bit less efficient
[23:20:28] <Riley>	 and?
[23:20:45] <Jasper_Deng>	 you know how horribly backlogged it can get