[00:07:52] The client or the repo? [00:12:43] can I add one of the wikipedias as a client for my local wikibase installation? [00:17:55] [00:21:32] what's a good way, then? [00:21:55] let me explain [00:22:18] I'm trying to work on the project of mobilizing wikidata [00:22:38] one of the things I was suggested was to get wikibase set up and see if it works with mobile frontend [00:22:57] but then I can't see if it works if there's nothing to see [00:23:00] you see? [00:23:02] The best method would allow the user to create an interwiki from the article directly. This does not appear to be possible wikidata. Yet. [00:23:34] pragunbhutani: I can't help you there; I know less about the project than you do. [00:26:03] oh, okay :) [03:29:38] Amgine_: ping [04:28:33] Legoktm: pong [04:32:50] hey! [04:32:56] so what did you want to chat about? :) [04:33:48] lol [05:21:48] heh [05:22:07] well, unfortunately I am caught up in things and can't chat now. [05:22:17] [05:24:13] :( [05:25:27] It's about OmegaWiki and the possibilities of importing their data into wikidata. [05:27:16] right [06:51:24] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 47595) Fix summary for new items and properties" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60630 [09:39:53] i am still looking for places on wikipedia that use phase 2 already [09:39:58] anyone got any good ones? [09:42:13] * legoktm looks [09:43:19] is there a way we can identify pages that are using it? like how there's GlobalUsage? [09:43:55] Lydia_WMDE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:IMDb_name [09:45:13] legoktm: not yet but we're working on having some sort of tracking [09:45:24] also important for the change notification process [09:46:02] is there a bug filed? [09:46:28] also, i was thinking of modifying a template like that one so we can identify where wikidata != wikipedia using a tracking category [09:46:48] * aude checks [09:49:31] legoktm: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47288 [09:49:40] ty [09:49:56] with that, it would allow a special page / api module to access the info, as well [09:50:01] {{#ifeq: {{#property:P345}} | {{{id}}} | | [[Category:Pages where IMDB id differs in Wikidata}} [09:50:26] legoktm: interesting [09:50:55] Denny_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45281 [09:51:01] and then have a human can clean it up [09:51:11] legoktm: yes [09:52:05] i'm going to propose that for commons cat [09:58:35] aude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Commons_category#Edit_request_on_24_April_2013:_Check_Wikidata_errors [09:59:37] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(hotfix) Fix for broken snakview key handling" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60643 [10:02:08] legoktm: looks good [10:02:22] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60630 [10:02:30] :D [10:09:24] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [10:10:02] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(hotfix) Fixes broken editing introduced in 55e6d866" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60471 [10:11:28] aude, Lydia_WMDE: I just created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_using_data_from_Wikidata so we can keep track of which templates have been converted [10:12:40] legoktm: cool - thx [10:13:06] nice [10:21:05] New review: Aude; "not completely happy with $cache = 'no' param but not a blocker. otherwise, the patch is okay" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59992 [10:21:06] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59992 [10:23:28] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Autosummary for setClaim" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [10:24:11] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "PS 17: rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [10:25:11] New review: Aude; "I am not opposed to the change, but this has a blocker... to switch over and ensure all the producti..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60220 [10:27:33] New review: Aude; "same concerns about backwards compatibility as for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60220/" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60219 [10:28:06] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60471 [10:28:58] Tobi_WMDE: did you verify https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60596/ with selenium? [10:29:11] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60410 [10:29:27] aude: there are no selenium tests for that [10:29:44] hmmm, ok [10:32:39] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [10:34:33] DanielK_WMDE: rebased! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/58880/ [10:35:57] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59746 [11:06:50] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Added IDs for entity page's sitelink and claim headings" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60596 [11:07:33] Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60596 [11:15:12] New patchset: Hoo man; "Basic validation for snaks JSON in SetReference" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60410 [11:16:04] New patchset: Hoo man; "Basic validation for snaks JSON in SetReference" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60410 [11:16:31] New review: Hoo man; "Removed broken/ invalid examples (per Daniel)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60410 [11:41:04] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "fine with me" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [11:43:00] Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60410 [11:47:12] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [11:54:29] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(hotfix) Fix for broken snakview key handling" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60643 [11:59:01] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60643 [12:01:51] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Autosummary for setClaim" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [12:01:56] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [12:02:20] DanielK_WMDE: JeroenDeDauw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/58880/ [12:03:52] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Selenium tests for autocomments/autosummaries" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60252 [12:08:07] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/58880 [12:09:59] CODE FREEZE! :) [12:13:17] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60252 [12:16:05] wikidata.org isn't allowing me to save an edit [12:19:30] pragunbhutani: bad wikidata. are you logged in? [12:20:26] yep [12:20:34] which page are you trying to edit? [12:20:44] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q668 [12:20:55] someone has defaced the name of the prime minister [12:21:38] uhoh [12:22:00] should be just "Manmohan Singh" [12:22:06] ok so [12:22:19] the issue was that that text string was in another item [12:22:25] you actually had to edit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41914 [12:22:39] but i took care of it :) [12:23:00] thanks :) [12:23:12] the other page has been vandalized as well! [12:23:20] I'll try to fix it [12:23:55] Got this one :) [12:24:49] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(8 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [12:25:53] thanks [12:26:06] whats your username? [12:26:09] crude references to sex in the local languages [12:26:13] i can give you rollback [12:26:18] I guess humans don't change [12:26:20] Pragunbhutani [12:26:22] :( [12:26:38] can you help with with something else? [12:26:50] I shot a mail to wikitech-i but haven't received a reply yet [12:27:04] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Move classes from lib to DataModel, as they are directly needed in DataModel and not in lib" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60221 [12:27:05] I'm trying something out for my gsoc project, mobilize wikidata [12:27:21] well i can try to help but no guarantees [12:27:51] the suggestions I got from the community all involved trying to see if mobile frontend works with wikibase [12:27:57] and if not, make it so [12:28:08] so that's what I'm trying to do [12:28:24] the results will help me draft a good proposal [12:28:36] now I've got wikibase with all it's dependencies set up [12:28:49] and mobile fronted as well (commented out for the moment) [12:29:10] but I don't know how to populate my installation with wikidata.org type data [12:29:28] how do I do that? [12:29:42] i think in the wikibase files there is some chemistry items that you can import? [12:29:51] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Magic values?" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60217 [12:30:30] pragunbhutani: or manually, using SPecial:NewItem and Special:NewPropertyx [12:31:29] DanielK_WMDE: legoktm : I don't understand what you mean by chemistry items [12:31:48] like items of elements in the periodic table [12:31:52] just example items [12:32:18] does it? [12:32:23] I didn't come across any [12:32:26] I'll look again [12:32:46] if that doesn't work out, I guess manual should work [12:40:12] legoktm: I found the chemical properties :) [12:40:26] can I include a .csv file? [12:40:56] im not sure [12:41:10] i'm more of an editor/bot writer than a wikibase developer :) [12:43:45] okay :) [12:43:51] I found a way in the docs [12:44:03] silly me [12:44:54] :) [12:55:00] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikidata#New_articles could be updated [13:53:06] !nyan [13:53:06] ~=[,,_,,]:3 [14:40:44] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Deprecate Settings class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60663 [14:46:44] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/59412 [15:03:32] Denny_WMDE: should the autocomments related bugs which got fixed set to verified or just fixed? and who will verify them? [15:05:44] i will verify them [15:05:49] set them to fixed and will check them [15:07:06] Denny_WMDE: I think Wikibase and MobileFrontend can indeed work with each other [15:07:12] (ref: Mobilize wikidata) [15:08:41] thats great to hear [15:08:44] pragunbhutani: ^ [15:09:15] Denny_WMDE: I just tried it out on a local installation [15:09:33] and although it breaks in a few places, it definitely looks promising [15:09:49] sweet [15:09:55] New patchset: Hoo man; "Attempt fix for the linkitem selenium tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60448 [15:09:56] I'm going to take a few screenshots and maybe set up a local tunnel for others to see [15:10:04] that would be great [15:10:10] tunnel wikidata.org or your local install? [15:10:32] my local install [15:10:42] with MF installed [15:10:50] :D [15:10:54] I've set up a few sample pages for testing [15:10:59] editing wikidata from my phone was a pain [15:11:23] now what remains to be discussed is if the changes to be made should be in wikibase itself, or mobile frontend [15:11:33] or a new extension that extends classes from MF [15:12:16] do I need to be clear about that before drafting my proposal? or is that one of the things that can be included in the proposal? [15:12:21] "Agreeing upon a solution" [15:12:48] It doesn't make sense to have wikibase specific stuff in MF [15:14:06] I think I agree, it would weigh it down unnecessarily [15:14:20] changes should either be in wikibase itself or a new extension [15:14:28] Probably a new extension [15:14:41] Or another folder in Wikibase [15:15:02] pragunbhutani: Bonus points for splitting into more than 1 extension [15:16:10] Reedy: You're getting a little ahead of me :p [15:16:22] I'm still trying to understand all that needs to be changed [15:16:56] hmm, it seems that the javascript edits are not working at the moment [15:16:57] noted [15:17:57] correction, edits and add on properties don't seem to work [15:18:03] works with labels [15:18:30] css seems a little twitchy for some reason [15:18:35] hmm, it should. where? [15:18:47] on my local install, in mobile mode [15:19:06] it should be an extension of its own. possibly in the same repository, as Reedy suggested. [15:23:05] I'll grab a bite and and set up localtunnel [15:23:19] I think we'll be able to base our discussion better, for my benefit [15:26:58] Reedy: when you say separate extensions, do you mean something like one for displaying and one for editing? [15:29:10] Would anyone be opposed to setting up a bot in here that posted a short message when something is sent to wikidata-l ? [15:32:21] legoktm: That list is rather low traffic, so I doubt it [15:32:44] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30 I'm getting unresponsive script message in FF there :/ [15:33:09] loaded for me [15:33:22] great, ill poke someone about the bot then [15:33:39] legoktm: The script finishes... but it's terribly slow [15:33:54] took 10-15 seconds for me [15:34:09] My system is rather loaded atm [15:37:06] legoktm: conscious, not in class, caught up with all schoolwork (reading and assignments)? [15:37:08] hoo|away: looking at it [15:37:37] Amgine_: I think so, but lately my sanity has been questioned. [15:37:57] what do you mean, 'lately'? [15:38:53] loads fine for me in ff [15:39:19] :P [15:39:28] so, whats up? [15:39:49] Okay, there's a proposal to adopt OmegaWiki. One of the proposals for doing so involves merging its content into wikidata. I have no idea how that might be accomplished. [15:40:40] i think people started brainstorming at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary [15:41:37] the way i see it is that you need to a) define how the item will be unique, and then b) you need to come up with a ton of properties :D [15:41:39] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60448 [15:42:55] legoktm: Actually, OmegaWiki is a fork of wiktionary from something like 2005; if I understand its model correctly it attempts to create standard 'definitions' which are shared by words in multiple languages. [15:44:08] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Attempt fix for the linkitem selenium tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60669 [15:44:15] It uses a separate lexical extension within a mediawiki framework to store the data in separate tables. [15:44:30] yeah the one formerly known as "WikiData" :P [15:45:22] I think that any dictionary type implementation in wikidata will have to be done with the support of the various wikitionaries, which may be a barrier in itself [15:45:34] im not all too familiar with how the wikitionaries do interlanguage links [15:48:36] They use standard interwiki, but they also each support multiple languages locally which provide translations. [15:49:21] There are many bots maintaining the interwiki links of wiktionaries. [15:49:45] yeah thats the confusing part [15:50:11] Why is that confusing? [15:50:32] there are multiple languages stored locally, as well as interlanguage links. [15:51:20] For most wiktionaries, multiple languages are presenting the *translation* of the term into the local language. [15:51:34] (they are structured as L2 headers.) [15:52:48] hmmmm [15:52:51] * legoktm is looking [15:52:51] e.g. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bleu#French [15:54:03] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Mark Selenium test for including property by label as experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60672 [15:55:00] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60672 [15:55:02] out of curiosity, have you read the blocks of text at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary_future ? [15:56:19] Skimmed only. It comes down to "we need to standardi(s/z)e our templates across languages" [15:57:25] heh, well i just looked at the fancy diagrams [15:57:27] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Mark Selenium test for including property by label as experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60673 [15:59:14] Ultimately, wiktionary either needs to standardize its templating - which cannot be done as no consensus is possible without an outside intervention - or each project needs to add microformats to their templating systems to represent the data's structures. [16:01:27] Speaking as someone who wrote their own import bot and rarely using wiktionary, i think the easiest way to merge omegawiki into wikidata with wiktionary would be to establish a "omega<-->wikitionary item (a collection of all languages)" link [16:01:41] rarely uses* [16:02:03] once that is done, we run the import bots against wiktionary (once they're supported, blah blah) [16:02:05] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Backporting fix for Selenium tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60673 [16:02:05] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60673 [16:02:21] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Backporting fix for Selenium tests." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60669 [16:02:22] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60669 [16:02:26] then we can link with omegawiki in a simple string property [16:02:33] heh, you're using a dictionary with every keystroke you type: it *could* be derived from wiktionary, but it isn't, because wiktionary isn't usefully structured. [16:02:57] ultimate omegawiktidata [16:03:17] heheheh [16:03:28] [16:04:26] I think the main issue to figure out is going to be whether you want to use an omegawiki style structure or what the current wikitionaries use [16:04:30] wikipedias are simple because theyre based on subjects [16:04:51] words are weird and aren't so easy [16:05:07] Okay, so effectively importing omegawiki waits on wikidata setting up support for wiktionary, which is sometime off in the hazy future? [16:07:31] Well, one of the problems I ran across yesterday was the subjects chosen in the wikipedias. For examples: a person cannot have an occupation of confectioner, it autocorrects to confectionery. A building cannot be a butchery, it becomes a butcher. [16:08:40] actually, it depends what language you're in [16:08:55] its weird [16:09:07] some projects merged confectioner and conefectionary [16:09:15] there are also random interwiki conflicts because of this [16:09:20] and no one has split them properly [16:09:32] Yes, it does, but I'd expect you'd want the dictionary before the encyclopedia since you will at least then have the correct *terms*. [16:09:40] heh [16:10:41] im not sure importing omegawiki is entirely dependent on wiktionaries, the community could decide to go ahead with import it and using a string property as the link to omegawiki and grabbing all the properties [16:11:00] however i also know the community well enough that such a thing is very unlikely [16:12:14] I already wrote my essay on the topic, but was unsure about costs of the wikidata proposal. [16:14:31] essay? [16:14:46] link? :) [16:18:48] moment [16:19:17] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Amgine/OmegaWiki_position [16:23:38] i dont think its practical to set up OmegaWiki as its own project, but a merge should definitely happen. [16:23:51] I doubt it would be easy to remerge a fork 7 years later... [16:25:26] [16:26:06] If examined solely from a WM pov, I'm not sure any benefit would balance the costs of doing so. [16:26:19] Well, no, I'm pretty sure it would not. [16:28:09] yeah :/ [16:28:57] i think the wikidata community is already overwhelmed by what we're doing right now to even think about dictionaries tbh :P [16:29:38] I know. Usual case. [16:30:30] If you have time you should help out :D [16:31:59] We really need a) bot writers, and b) people to talk to people with big databases and get them to share data :) [16:32:33] legoktm: I would disagree [16:32:51] their shared data does not need to be in Wikidata, it can be external [16:33:10] I would prefer if Wikidata would not grow too much, but rather remain in a human editable format [16:33:31] Whats wrong with storing it all in once place though? [16:33:47] to keep it maintainable [16:33:50] duplication, curation [16:33:54] to have enough eyeballs [16:34:00] what Amgine_ says [16:35:17] Wherever possible you want the people who invested time to create the database to continue to maintain/own it; you merely want access to it. [16:35:25] yep [16:35:34] i need to run, will be online in an hour or so [16:35:40] sorry to leave the interesting dicussion [16:36:25] same, i need to grab some food before class [16:54:40] Reedy: can you give me an estimate how much time i have left until deployment? [17:05:34] taking suggestions for the title pf tonight's deployment blog now [17:05:38] ideas anyone? :D [17:11:58] Lydia_WMDE: Deployments make the world go 'round [17:12:19] Lydia_WMDE: Boy do we have a Deployment for you! [17:12:33] greg-g: love it! now how do i make this not suck in german? :D [17:12:39] heh, no idea [17:12:59] Run it through Google Translate and get more attention and media coverage by a title that does not make any sense? [17:13:23] haha [17:17:09] Lydia_WMDE: Oh crap, it's a wednesday [17:17:10] :D [17:17:18] Reedy: it is! :D [17:17:30] Reedy: and i am not done yet so could use an estimate how much time is left [17:17:32] 43 minutes to the window at the moment [17:17:43] ok [17:17:56] I think I'll have to go and hunt out some wifi [17:23:06] AFK for a bit... [17:24:40] k [17:31:22] is da excitement building up? [17:37:00] aude, Denny_WMDE: running out for food, will be back in about an hour [17:37:23] enjoy [17:37:55] k [17:42:35] 28 minutes and counting! [17:42:41] er, 18 [17:42:47] * greg-g hangs head [17:44:15] 18? ahhhhhhhhh [17:44:16] :D [17:44:23] still have kurier article to write [17:44:29] rest it nearly finished though [17:45:11] Lydia_WMDE: Has the linkitem widget been deployed as well? To non-enwiki, I mean [17:45:28] hoo: katie said it will be [17:46:23] :) [17:46:43] Sadly we don't have any statistics about the usage... but I guess people like it [17:48:57] it's hard to measure such things [17:55:28] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60682/ :) [17:55:48] we'll change the variable names not today.... probably monday [17:58:51] aude: You mean the configuration ones? [17:59:19] hoo: yes [17:59:34] You'll break my setup and Silke's Vagrant [17:59:38] the rolling stones are an organization? GND is a bit weird... [18:00:17] hoo: we will have $wgWBClientSettings $wgWBRepoSettings and $wgWBSettings (lib only) [18:00:45] these all work now and $wgWBSettings , if used for repo or client settings, will no longer work [18:00:56] * aude notes to check vagrant [18:01:50] Vagrant is rather outdated anyway (after the WMF one moved from github into gerrit) [18:02:05] it's a nice project, though [18:04:29] ohh wow… I didn't have a clue how bad it is… http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&tagfilter=adding+language+as+description [18:04:48] 4300 times a description that was a language was added... [18:05:08] something is seriously messed up in the interface, and i simply don't see it [18:05:25] :( [18:05:57] maybe people not scrolling down to the bottom for the langlinks? [18:07:16] if that's it, this will be fixed in a week [18:07:21] i hope it's that [18:08:23] oh, wow, there's a lot of vandalism going on [18:10:18] Denny_WMDE: yes and yes [18:10:37] * Lydia_WMDE is now finished with her preparations [18:10:38] \o/ [18:10:42] you may deploy [18:10:43] :P [18:10:45] :) [18:11:03] Engage. [18:11:22] \o/ :) [18:11:37] "Make it so..." [18:11:43] haha [18:11:45] right [18:13:13] aude: I thought a bit... we have to find a way to provide both the widget + a link to WD or in case a page w/o langlinks has an item. That will be needed for changing phase 2 information [18:13:40] hoo: yes [18:13:41] don't we have enough patrollers yet? [18:13:46] Low priority... and I couldn't think of a nice way, yes [18:13:47] Denny_WMDE: no [18:13:50] * yet [18:13:58] hoo: shall think about it [18:14:17] * aude saw obscene stuff that had been there for days [18:14:39] try to check rc more often [18:15:09] I guess the usual vandalism fighter tools from enwiki don't work on wikidata, do they? [18:15:16] me too [18:15:17] Like Huggle [18:15:42] i don't have a RC workflow myself [18:15:47] never did RC watch on other wikis [18:16:11] There's also an IRC channel #cvn-wikidata [18:16:12] Denny_WMDE: that's why autosummaries are so important (and happy to have more next deplyoment) [18:16:20] but i see that when I ask for the last 500 edits by anons that are not patrolled, I get about 7 hours worth of edits [18:16:26] * aude spots the obvious and takes care of it [18:16:35] how do i patrol an edit? [18:16:40] i don't know if people really mark stuff as patrolled [18:16:41] ? [18:16:44] * aude doesn't [18:16:51] aude: It's just a click [18:17:07] * hoo ajaxified that a few months back in MediaWiki [18:17:09] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1657415&curid=1591086&diff=30574439&oldid=24027402&rcid=30561988 [18:17:14] "mark as patrolled" [18:17:17] hoo: sure :) [18:17:39] ah, so i click on the diff, check it, and mark as patrolled [18:17:40] ok [18:17:46] Denny_WMDE: yep [18:18:00] I currently still work on improving the patrol system and it's acceptance: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41196 [18:18:07] *I'm still [18:18:20] * aude used to enwiki which does not have it enabled [18:19:16] Denny_WMDE: to your question, looks like new pages only are patrolled on enwiki [18:19:36] patrolled or logged? [18:19:41] patrolled (and logged) [18:19:42] Patrollable [18:20:01] There are two patrol-modes in MW: Patrol only new pages or all RC entries [18:20:12] We patrol everything, enwiki only new pages [18:20:25] default is no patrolling, right? [18:20:33] or just no rc patrolling? [18:20:35] aude: No, all patrolling AFAIR [18:20:40] k [18:21:45] okay, can someone please check out http://wikibase.pragunbhutani.in/mw [18:22:04] mobile mode [18:22:14] for a sample data entry, try "Oxygen" [18:22:39] hoo: although i can't +2 it, could review it [18:23:14] aude: Would be great... having the patrol link everywhere will encourage users to actually click it [18:23:24] sure [18:23:52] pragunbhutani: do i need to use my phone, or can i make the browser display me mobile mode? [18:24:07] No SSH, no VPN, no remote desktop [18:24:07] :( [18:24:14] :( [18:24:31] reedy|crapwifi: Tunnel it over DNS [18:24:32] :P [18:24:42] I've not got that setup [18:24:45] Denny_WMDE: you can use your browser as well [18:24:50]