[00:02:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "That is correct, the merge order is wrong. Merging it in the first place is wrong to though :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60220
[06:38:51] <legoktm>	 should blogs be instance of website and instance of blog? or just instance of blog?
[06:59:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "note that vagrant may also break and may need updating" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60220
[09:14:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 46363) use terms table to access props by label" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60761
[09:15:41] <hoo_>	 aude: there?
[09:16:19] <aude>	 hi hoo_ 
[09:16:52] <hoo_>	 I think we should get the underscore patch deployed
[09:17:20] <aude>	 hmmmm
[09:17:31] <hoo_>	 I'll do that better (with an own class) later, but for now it should suffice
[09:18:21] * aude  somewhat concerned about asking for too many hotfixes

[09:18:44] <aude>	 if it's possible to wait until monday (our regular deploy day), then i think we can get it in then
[09:18:45] <hoo_>	 Mhm
[09:18:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574
[09:19:15] <hoo_>	 Is there anything else that needs hot fixing?
[09:19:22] <aude>	 i hope not
[09:19:36] <hoo_>	 :D
[09:20:03] <aude>	 it's no worse than other issues we've had....
[09:20:11] <aude>	 i can take a look at the patch
[09:20:39] <hoo_>	 Im off for now... lets see how many more reports about the bug we get an decide then
[09:20:41] <aude>	 errr, i think we deploy on wednesday, but monday is general deployment and would be ok
[09:20:50] <aude>	 usually mondays and wednesdays
[09:20:58] <hoo_>	 Monday sounds ok
[09:21:30] <aude>	 otherwise, it's outside of normal deploy schedule which i think should be reserved for stuff in error logs or critical stuff like last nights bug
[09:21:43] <aude>	 k
[09:26:10] <Denny_WMDE>	 agree with aude
[09:49:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60760
[09:50:00] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60760
[10:04:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60747
[10:08:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60663
[10:10:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Pass language from property parser function to entity id label formatter" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60805
[10:11:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "Backporting this hotfix to wmf3 too, which has been backported to wmf2 during deployment on April 24th." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60805
[10:11:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60805
[10:26:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "still think there's an issue here with using literals as identifiers, but it's not introduced by thi..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60217
[10:26:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60217
[10:36:55] <legoktm>	 [05:30:03 AM] <+snitch>	 [[Wikidata talk:Bots]]; Byrial; /* Compromise proposal for blanket approval vs. approval for each task */ new section; https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=30914731&oldid=29523772&rcid=30914262
[10:36:58] <legoktm>	 interesting proposal
[10:45:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Introduction of qunit-parameterized for usage in QUnit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60808
[10:45:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added QUnit tests for DataType constructor and instances" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60809
[10:45:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "DataType constructor taking DataValue constructors as 2nd argument now" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60810
[10:45:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added tests for jQuery.valueview.ExpertFactory" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60811
[10:46:16] <Denny_WMDE>	 lbenedix: hey, did you figure out with wikidatians are wikipedians?
[10:47:20] <lbenedix>	 Denny_WMDE: I have the raw data, but had no time to give it a closer look
[10:47:28] * lbenedix  has to finish his thesis

[10:48:07] <Denny_WMDE>	 k
[10:48:10] <Denny_WMDE>	 what's your deadline?
[10:48:39] <lbenedix>	 2013-05-02
[10:48:47] <Denny_WMDE>	 all the best!
[10:48:51] <lbenedix>	 thx!
[10:49:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Hm, this stuff seems more generic than the Wikibase Data Model... I'm tempted to say that it should ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60221
[10:49:12] <legoktm>	 lbenedix: good luck :)
[10:49:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Hm, this stuff seems more generic than the Wikibase Data Model... I'm tempted to say that it should ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60221
[10:49:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60221
[11:03:20] <Silke_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE_ F00d??? I want to come!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:03:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Silke_WMDE: yes!
[11:03:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 now
[11:03:33] <Silke_WMDE>	 ok
[12:58:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 42063, bug 44577) Special:EntityData supports RDF output" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164
[12:59:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Rebased." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164
[12:59:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Rebased." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164
[13:35:25] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Denny_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/59997/   https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60278/   https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60034/
[13:37:39] <lbenedix>	 Lydia_WMDE: have you found infobox-showcases?
[13:38:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lbenedix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3ATemplates_using_data_from_Wikidata
[13:39:04] <legoktm>	 so few :(
[13:39:10] <lbenedix>	 is this list generated automatically?
[13:40:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it has everything where the template author added the category
[13:40:25] <legoktm>	 category has to be added manually
[13:41:15] <lbenedix>	 ok
[13:41:38] * lbenedix  loves the template-syntax of mediawiki: http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/screenshots/nlbpxprfjm_(2013-04-25_15.40.10).png

[13:42:09] <tommorris>	 because Lisp wasn't what-the-fuck enough
[13:43:16] <legoktm>	 lbenedix: you should enable the gadget called "Dots Syntax Highlighter"
[13:43:22] <legoktm>	 its very helpful :P
[13:43:39] <lbenedix>	  I just learned what gadgets are...
[13:43:49] <lbenedix>	 are the templates created by humans?
[13:50:34] <Denny_WMDE>	 lbenedix: i think they are created by gods
[13:52:05] <lbenedix>	 there is the german word Übermensch ;)
[13:52:45] * lbenedix  tried to write a template for a mediawiki at work and gave up after one day trying

[14:07:51] <Tobi_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw : it seems the MapPatcher is not able to patch claims
[14:08:11] <Tobi_WMDE>	 that's causing the wrong edit-conflicts
[14:16:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Reorganization of DataValues extension's JS resources" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60025
[14:17:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Reorganization of DataValues extension's JS resources" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60025
[14:18:41] * jeblad  makes a not to go to bed earlyer than 0600 in the morning

[14:20:52] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60025
[14:22:25] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: so on what forums can I rage about this?
[14:22:50] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: forum.kde.org if you want a real forum - more useful is the plasma mailing list
[14:22:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ;-)
[14:37:43] <jeblad>	 It should be a law against books with more than a couple of hundred pages
[15:07:44] <pragunbhutani>	 Hello all!
[15:15:52] <Denny_WMDE>	 pragunbhutani: hi pragun
[15:16:36] <pragunbhutani>	 Denny_WMDE: I'm almost done with my proposal
[15:16:49] <pragunbhutani>	 just left with the timeline now
[15:17:06] <pragunbhutani>	 it's kind of hard to put that down at the start
[15:17:17] <pragunbhutani>	 but an estimate will do, won't it?
[15:17:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 pragunbhutani: yes
[15:17:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the timelines is there to show that oyu have actually thought about it
[15:18:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and brought the task down into manageable steps
[15:18:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 if you've done that it's fine
[15:19:34] <pragunbhutani>	 I've managed to break down my task into 3 major steps so far
[15:19:47] <pragunbhutani>	 I think I'll try and get it to be a little more granular
[15:21:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sounds good :)
[15:23:34] <pragunbhutani>	 awesome
[15:23:48] <pragunbhutani>	 if I get that done today, I shall treat myself to a Hoegaarden
[15:25:46] <pragunbhutani>	 Denny_WMDE: to recap on our discussion yesterday, I have these three points down as the major tasks
[15:25:54] <pragunbhutani>	 1) no JS extension for WIkibase
[15:26:12] <pragunbhutani>	 2) adding special pages to maintain functionality
[15:26:32] <pragunbhutani>	 3) Mobile specific JS for UI and usability improvements
[15:26:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Restores DataValues.tests.js as dataValues.tests.js" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60864
[15:26:42] <pragunbhutani>	 I'm not missing anything, am I?
[15:27:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(Bug 42063, bug 44577) RDF for Special:EntityData" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164
[15:28:36] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 pragunbhutani: there may also be some mobile specific CSS, and possibly improvements of the HTML structure
[15:28:45] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 perhaps talk to Danwe_WMDE about that
[15:29:36] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Henning Snater; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60864
[15:30:14] <pragunbhutani>	 DanielK_WMDE_:  oh yes, thanks for pointing that out
[15:30:14] <pragunbhutani>	 I'll add them as sub-tasks under the no JS extension
[15:40:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Show correct revision of entity when viewing an old revision" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60868
[15:40:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added missing import" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60869
[15:40:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Introduced ValueComparer interface" [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60870
[15:41:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "RDF support for Special:EntityData" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51164
[15:41:36] <Tobi_WMDE>	 DanielK_WMDE_: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60868/
[15:44:31] <pragunbhutani>	 DanielK_WMDE_: I shall
[15:44:55] <pragunbhutani>	 I'm going to study the wikibase AND mobile fronted code a little
[15:45:07] <pragunbhutani>	 I should be in a better position to discuss then
[15:45:24] <pragunbhutani>	 I'd also like to get a rough proposal out to the mailing list today, and get some feedback
[15:46:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60869
[15:48:46] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 pragunbhutani: great
[15:48:58] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 Denny_WMDE1: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42063#c7  <--- want separate bugs for any of this stuff?
[15:52:31] <Denny_WMDE1>	 yeah, sure
[15:54:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix issues in Entity::patch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60872
[16:04:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Moved class registration of WikibaseRepo extension into dedicated file" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60209
[16:04:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60209
[16:17:48] <Sven_Manguard>	 Hey. So Wikipedia disambiguation page is part of the GND main type, so why not Wikipedia category?
[16:18:07] <Sven_Manguard>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10800921 <-- came up with ‎ (Tag: Unexpected value for entity type)
[16:20:22] <legoktm>	 Sven_Manguard: I think there was a discussion about that.
[16:22:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 greg-g: any eta for the visual editor deployment on dewp? 
[16:34:32] <greg-g>	 Lydia_WMDE: should be done by 17:30 UTC
[16:35:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 greg-g: damn... - i should leave in 30 mins
[16:35:20] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but oh well
[16:35:27] <greg-g>	 :/
[16:35:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 guess i'll be late for my spanish course then
[16:35:30] <greg-g>	 sorry
[16:37:12] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: Hopefully sooner!
[16:37:31] <Lydia_WMDE>	 James_F: :D that means i still need to do my spanish homework!
[16:37:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 damn
[16:37:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 :P
[16:37:51] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: I can delay it on dewiki just for you. ;-)
[16:38:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lol
[16:38:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 no
[16:38:00] <Lydia_WMDE>	 please don't
[16:38:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 they'll hate me ;-)
[16:39:51] <hoo>	 aude: Can we accomplish https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47620 with the current configuration vars? 
[16:40:32] <aude>	 hoo: i don't think so
[16:41:17] <hoo>	 Lydia_WMDE: Did you open any bugs for linkitem except the above?
[16:41:37] * hoo  wonders how many people are crying about the spaces issues

[16:41:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hoo: i don't think so
[16:41:49] * aude  needs to look at the code

[16:42:13] <aude>	 there are namespace settings
[16:42:24] <hoo>	 aude: Maybe we can phase out the current enable linkItem pre against a new NS specific one?!
[16:42:25] <aude>	 not sure we have that set to exclude user and talk pages
[16:42:38] <hoo>	 * preference 
[16:42:41] <aude>	 maybe
[16:56:40] <DanielK_WMDE__>	 aude, Denny_WMDE1: example: http://wikidata.org/w/extensions/Wikibase/docs/options.wiki
[16:59:57] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: Deployed.
[16:59:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 James_F: \o/
[17:00:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 <3
[17:00:08] <Denny_WMDE1>	 James_F: YAAY!!!
[17:00:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 will post and then leave for spanish course
[17:00:08] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: And seemingly not-broken. :-)
[17:00:10] <hoo>	 Wait... what did you deploy?
[17:00:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 will be back in a few hours
[17:00:20] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and can be reached by phone
[17:00:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 James_F: also: congrats!
[17:00:45] <Sven_Manguard>	 Wait... what did you deploy?\
[17:00:46] * aude  tries it in rtl

[17:01:17] <aude>	 ugh,not localised
[17:01:23] <James_F>	 aude: Which language?
[17:01:26] <aude>	 arabic
[17:01:31] <aude>	 the preference is not localised
[17:01:31] <hoo>	 Ok, got it... you didn't update WB :P
[17:01:40] <aude>	 not translated
[17:01:46] <James_F>	 aude: Yeah, I asked for Ar translators several times, but no-one responded. :-(
[17:02:08] <James_F>	 aude: translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&language=ar&group=ext-visualeditor&action=proofread if you're keen. ;-)
[17:02:08] <aude>	 the arabic characters do not connect correctly :(
[17:02:20] <aude>	 it's quite difficult and ugly to use therefore
[17:02:32] <Denny_WMDE1>	 hey, is there anyone here for the office hour?
[17:03:02] <JohnLewis>	 Denny_WMDE1: There's an officer hour?
[17:03:09] <JohnLewis>	 *office
[17:03:17] <Denny_WMDE1>	 there was the suggestion for an extra office hour to discuss references
[17:03:17] <James_F>	 aude: Try hewiki for a better experience.
[17:03:26] * aude  does not know hebrew

[17:03:32] * James_F  doesn't either.

[17:03:39] <Denny_WMDE1>	 if no one wants to, it's fine :) then i get home earlier :)
[17:05:52] <Micru>	 hi there
[17:06:54] <Denny_WMDE1>	 Micru: hi
[17:07:00] <Denny_WMDE1>	 here for the sources?
[17:07:20] <Micru>	 yes, am I too late?
[17:07:31] <Denny_WMDE1>	 nah, no one else is there :)
[17:07:50] <Micru>	 anyway, I think now or less it is mostly clear
[17:07:57] <Denny_WMDE1>	 the office hour is here #wikimedia-office
[17:08:03] <Micru>	 ahh
[17:08:04] <Micru>	 ok
[17:08:05] <Denny_WMDE1>	 oh, that's great actually :)
[17:09:17] <aude>	 hoo: config change should work
[17:19:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Guh, Article class. Oh, well." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60868
[17:19:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60868
[17:20:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Show correct revision of entity when viewing an old revision" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60884
[17:21:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "self-approving backport" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60884
[17:21:26] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf3) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60884
[17:25:01] <pragunbhutani>	 Jon Robson indicated on my mailing list thread that he has been working on refactoring the mobile skin
[17:25:37] <pragunbhutani>	 according to him, theoretically that should allow me to write my own mobile skin with its own modules and scripts
[17:26:00] <pragunbhutani>	 by extending a few classes in MobileFrontend
[17:26:09] <pragunbhutani>	 That sounds appealing!
[17:34:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "adding a first ontology file, mostly as a placeholder" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60886
[17:35:56] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Kinzler; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60886
[17:54:54] <legoktm>	 office hour log: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20130425.txt
[17:58:40] <multichill>	 hi legoktm, I added a new code snippet for the Commons category template
[17:59:21] <legoktm>	 great
[17:59:27] <legoktm>	 let me hunt down an enwiki admin
[17:59:31] <legoktm>	 addshore: ping
[17:59:34] <multichill>	 and DanielK_WMDE, I see you commented too
[18:00:49] <multichill>	 James_F can probably help too
[18:01:46] <James_F>	 I can?
[18:02:46] <multichill>	 See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Commons_category#Edit_request_on_24_April_2013:_Check_Wikidata_errors
[18:04:50] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_error_reporting_categories
[18:04:56] * James_F  goes.

[18:07:12] <James_F>	 multichill: Want me to change it now?
[18:07:12] <legoktm>	 multichill: we also need one for commonscat-inline
[18:07:17] <legoktm>	 James_F: yes :)
[18:07:19] <James_F>	 Kk.
[18:07:45] <multichill>	 You can templatify the piece of code and just include it in all the templates?
[18:08:13] <legoktm>	 probably
[18:08:16] <legoktm>	 lua!
[18:08:52] <James_F>	 Done.
[18:08:59] <James_F>	 Oh, well, /now/ you tell me. ;-)
[18:09:24] <legoktm>	 :D
[18:09:35] <legoktm>	 Now we just need to purge some pages to populate the category ;)
[18:10:07] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Commons_category_with_local_link_same_as_on_Wikidata 29 pages :D
[18:10:08] <James_F>	 Have you made the cats too?
[18:10:20] <James_F>	 I imagine the job-runners are still going.
[18:10:27] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Commons_category_with_local_link_different_than_on_Wikidata 5 pages!
[18:10:28] <legoktm>	 James_F: yup
[18:10:59] <legoktm>	 everything is in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_error_reporting_categories
[18:11:55] <legoktm>	 multichill: wanna set up your bot on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Commons_category_without_a_link_on_Wikidata ?
[18:11:56] <multichill>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_error_reporting_categories <- maybe you should call this tracking categories?
[18:12:09] <multichill>	 Two of them are not an error state
[18:12:22] <legoktm>	 oh true
[18:12:51] <legoktm>	 Category:Wikidata checking tracking categories <-- sounds weird
[18:13:15] <multichill>	 Category:Commons category Wikidata tracking categories <- hm?
[18:13:25] <legoktm>	 sure
[18:13:29] <legoktm>	 but we still need a top level category
[18:13:33] <multichill>	 Oh and you should create objects on Wikidata for the categories so I can link the Dutch ones to it :P
[18:13:39] <legoktm>	 heheheh
[18:13:40] <legoktm>	 sure
[18:13:51] <multichill>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tracking_categories
[18:14:22] <multichill>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Commons
[18:14:34] <legoktm>	 but we should have a middle level from tracking category --> wikidata tracking --> commons cat tracking
[18:14:43] <multichill>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Wikidata
[18:15:03] <multichill>	 Build something nice. It will grow if we start using this for other things 
[18:15:13] <benestar>	 Lydia_WMDE: is Daniel Kinzler around soon?
[18:16:13] <legoktm>	 benestar: [01:11:49 PM] 	 DanielK_WMDE__ (~daniel@p5DDC5090.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left IRC. (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[18:16:17] <legoktm>	 minutes ago
[18:16:23] <legoktm>	 5 minutes ago*
[18:16:34] <benestar>	 böh
[18:16:42] <benestar>	 will he come back?
[18:16:51] <benestar>	 *today
[18:20:22] <legoktm>	 multichill: created items for all the categories, look through my contribs on wikidata
[18:22:32] <multichill>	 grr, nice new interface throwing me errors that an object already exists
[18:22:40] <legoktm>	 o.O
[18:23:03] <legoktm>	 James_F: I G7'd this cat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_error_reporting_categories
[18:25:26] <multichill>	 legoktm: Ok, I can do the import, that's no problem. Can you kick a bot to check if all the items exist?
[18:25:36] <legoktm>	 will do
[18:25:48] <multichill>	 Maybe you can do https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Commonscat_zonder_link_op_Wikidata first
[18:25:52] <multichill>	 It's already populated
[18:27:03] <legoktm>	 sure
[18:29:56] <James_F>	 legoktm: The cat's dead, BTW.
[18:30:12] <legoktm>	 ty :
[18:30:16] <legoktm>	 :)*
[18:31:22] <legoktm>	 oh my god
[18:31:24] <legoktm>	 27k items
[18:31:45] <legoktm>	 blah and i cant run it from labs either
[18:32:15] <legoktm>	 multichill: ill start clearing that category once Coren finishes the labs maintenance 
[18:48:40] <legoktm>	 the being able to access items through the wikibase lua library was also enabled on wikipedias right?
[18:48:48] <legoktm>	 Lydia_WMDE: ^
[18:50:11] <multichill>	 legoktm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Commons_category_Wikidata_tracking_categories doesn't seem to be really filling up yet
[18:50:34] <legoktm>	 idk, go purge random pages
[18:50:55] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics&format=jsonfm job queue isnt that high
[18:57:39] <multichill>	 On the upside, I was able to clear out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Commons_category_with_page_title_different_than_on_Wikidata ;-)
[18:58:00] <yurik>	 has it been decided to remove langlinks from the site's local DBs?
[19:02:01] <yurik>	 aude, ping
[19:03:49] <aude>	 yurik: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:%22Daniel+Kinzler%22+status:open,n,z
[19:04:01] <aude>	 patches to change that
[19:04:10] <aude>	 please review :)
[19:04:15] <yurik>	 aude, yeah, that's what i saw, and got scared :)
[19:04:32] <yurik>	 has there been a discussion on this?
[19:04:56] <yurik>	 i'm worried that if an extension changes content, there will be no notifications for the sites
[19:05:06] <yurik>	 plus most bots will break... might?
[19:05:43] <duh>	 if the sitelinks are changed, it shows up in RC and watchlists
[19:05:52] <duh>	 if one of the links is in your watchlist...
[19:06:49] <aude>	 yurik: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45534
[19:07:15] <aude>	 daniel discussed it with tim, but is open to feedback
[19:07:38] <aude>	 the clients still will be notified of changes
[19:07:58] <aude>	 for lang link changes, a full parse is not needed
[19:10:39] <yurik>	 aude, duh, thanks! will look over the changes, see what i can make out of them
[19:15:08] <aude>	 yurik: thanks
[19:19:48] <shimgray>	 question! geocoordinates
[19:20:03] <shimgray>	 are we planning to just support points, or polygons/lines as well?
[19:21:46] <rschen7754>	 as i've mentioned, i'm hoping that shapefiles will be supported
[19:22:13] <shimgray>	 *nods*
[19:22:19] <shimgray>	 any idea when we'll get coords
[19:22:22] <shimgray>	 (I know, I know)
[19:23:22] <aude>	 shimgray: points to start with 
[19:23:31] <aude>	 but do have in mind lines and polygond
[19:23:51] <aude>	 polygons :)
[19:24:28] <Pyfisch>	 I would be happy if we would have numbers.
[19:24:29] <aude>	 when..... when the feature is ready :)
[19:24:36] <rschen7754>	 yeah, we're hoping that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Attached_KML/ can be imported at some point so that the data can be available for all wikipedias
[19:24:40] <aude>	 Pyfisch: time is next
[19:24:49] <aude>	 rschen7754: i don't see why not
[19:25:01] <Pyfisch>	 aude: (I dont know why that is so difficult, one integer, one float type)
[19:25:05] <rschen7754>	 even if it's in the KML format?
[19:25:07] <aude>	 probably would be stored as geojson
[19:25:23] <aude>	 rschen7754: not sure about kml, as it's more complex
[19:25:39] <aude>	 wouldn't be difficult to convert though from one to the other
[19:26:04] <aude>	 Pyfisch: with numbers come units and complext formatting
[19:26:14] <aude>	 complex*
[19:26:23] <rschen7754>	 aude: i'm not sure that the formatting would come through though
[19:26:32] <aude>	 rschen7754: hmmmm
[19:26:34] <Pyfisch>	 cu
[19:27:08] <aude>	 rschen7754: i can imagine some support for styling
[19:27:25] <aude>	 not sure within wikidata or another extension
[19:27:55] <aude>	 there's css-type styling for maps (which osm will be using soon)
[19:28:05] <aude>	 and works with overlays
[19:30:32] <rschen7754>	 or even something like https://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Attached_KML/U.S._Route_395_in_California%26action%3Draw where there's two parts of the road
[19:33:11] <aude>	 rschen7754: shouldn't be a problem
[19:34:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Bene; "(bug 43870) new Special:SetSiteLink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574
[19:37:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Bene; "I think the prepareArguments function is correct. It is called in the format Special:SetSitelink/<en..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574
[19:49:20] <benestar>	 aude: do you understand Daniel Kinzler's concerns here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 ?
[19:57:51] <Romaine>	 how can I check that a certain category of Commons is added to a Wikidata item?
[20:11:17] <multichill>	 legoktm: I see to be running into a lot of wikibase-error-label-not-unique-item errors
[20:58:24] <Sven_Manguard>	 and he's gone, damn
[20:58:50] <Sven_Manguard>	 Isarra: what are you doing here?
[21:03:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 James_F: around?
[21:03:07] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: Yes.
[21:03:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[21:03:14] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: How was Spanish?
[21:03:19] <Lydia_WMDE>	 James_F: back at home now and trying the visual editor
[21:03:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it was great
[21:03:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thanks
[21:03:28] * James_F  nods.

[21:03:37] <Lydia_WMDE>	 there seems to be an issue with the feedback link
[21:03:44] <James_F>	 Oh.
[21:03:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it takes me to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visualeditor-feedback-link
[21:03:56] <Sven_Manguard>	 Lydia_WMDE: 
[21:03:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and idea what is wrong?
[21:04:00] <Sven_Manguard>	 Hey. I know this might sound weird, but does anyone else see a value in being able to override the "same label, same description" error/block? It would make merging items so much easier
[21:04:04] <Sven_Manguard>	 for admins only type tool?
[21:04:22] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Sven_Manguard: we need proper merging anyway
[21:04:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 there is a ticket for it
[21:04:28] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: Oh dear, that's very broken.
[21:04:29] <Sven_Manguard>	 True
[21:04:31] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: Looking now!
[21:04:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 James_F: thanks :)
[21:05:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 James_F: btw if there is a better channel for this feel free to point me there and i'll join that
[21:05:30] <James_F>	 Lydia_WMDE: #mediawiki-visualeditor or #mediawiki or #wikimedia-dev or wherever you like; this is fine. :-)
[21:05:36] <Lydia_WMDE>	 cool
[21:05:39] <Sven_Manguard>	 I want to override that
[21:05:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 joining the first one then
[21:05:41] <Sven_Manguard>	 so I can take the description/label out of a to-be-deleted item and stick it in the kept one
[21:19:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60872
[21:49:08] <shimgray>	 aude, ping. I was about to load your site up & crib the slide content from your talk, but noticed it's not responding for some reason...
[21:56:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Cleanup of edit-conflict Selenium test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60931
[22:06:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix issues in Entity::patch" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60872
[22:07:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Some tests still failing" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60872
[22:13:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Diff] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60870
[22:37:00] <Isarra>	 Sven_Manguard is untrusting.
[22:38:44] <shimgray>	 do we have an inverse property for P361 ("part of")
[22:38:45] <shimgray>	 ?