[00:38:30] legoktm: why do you classify that as a hack? curious. [00:38:47] because the real solution is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47071 [00:39:09] there already is a really nice Lua module for working with wikibase [00:39:23] except it only works on client sites, not on the repository itself [00:39:50] and this solution requires fetching the page text for every module, and then decoding the JSON [00:40:18] on a page like WD:List of properties, that could get ugly very fast [00:46:25] see you [00:46:28] tommorow [00:46:31] thanks lego :)) [00:46:32] o7 [00:46:49] hey M4r51n, cya [01:20:08] legoktm: where's the blacklist for the DBR for user pages in items? [01:20:40] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/User_pages this one. [01:20:42] in the source code: https://github.com/mzmcbride/database-reports/blob/master/wikidatawiki/userspaceinitems.py [01:20:53] blargh [01:21:09] its really simple [01:21:18] https://github.com/mzmcbride/database-reports/blob/master/wikidatawiki/userspaceinitems.py#L44 <-- line # [01:21:22] i can add more rules if you want [01:21:55] all the blue links on the current report need to be blacklisted somehow. :/ [01:22:27] Hm [01:22:31] That report is out of date. [01:22:48] Not particularly....? [01:22:50] I thought that got fixed though... [01:22:51] Hm [01:22:59] 00:30 at 5 May is the time I'm seeing. [01:23:03] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q8497800&action=edit&redlink=1 <-- thats listed still [01:23:08] Right, that's the updatetime. [01:23:27] Jimbo is the only weird one on the list I think. [01:23:46] Hm. [01:24:01] (Noticed it earlier.) [01:24:08] when I went through the list earlier [01:27:48] Well the updated at should really use the replag first of all, let me fix that. [01:41:25] jimbo is always weird in lists :p [01:41:32] legoktm can I use you or abuse you? :p [01:41:42] or both <3 [01:42:06] what's up? [01:42:55] the ISS [01:42:58] I pm :) [05:57:48] legoktm: you still awake? [06:45:03] New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 47071) Allow use of the Lua API on a Wikibase repository" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62321 [08:34:00] good morning folks :) [08:39:05] city in ... [08:39:09] or city located in... [08:39:10] ? [08:48:40] anybody here? [08:53:50] apparently not :P [08:53:56] :)) [10:27:13] Heh, I realise after a week and a bit the reaosn my bot is running slowly is not because its running out of links to remove, but it is instead not in my crontab... [11:08:06] description for category? [11:08:09] just category? [11:09:25] If there are two items for the same article. Do I have to delete one of them? [11:10:02] yea [11:10:04] request delete [11:10:11] they will merge or delete it [11:23:47] description for category? [11:23:49] just category? [11:54:00] Romaine: At the moment I hate people from Sweden! They created shitloads of incorrect redirects causing heaps of interwiki conflicts :-( [12:03:46] do we have some wikidata structure experts here? [12:03:55] about property usage, instead of abstract data model [12:12:13] @notify Denny_WMDE [12:12:13] I will notify you, when I see Denny_WMDE around here [12:16:12] liangent: This is irc, don't ask if you can ask. Just ask your question and if you're lucky the right person will respond [12:16:54] what happened with [[WD:P]] Script errors all over the page! [12:16:55] [2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:P [12:17:03] ??? [12:18:39] Pyfisch: Pages with too many expensive parser function calls? Pages with script errors? [12:19:12] multichill: yes and yes [12:19:18] multichill: I'm wondering first, is this a wikidata developer-only channel, or about both content and development? [12:19:54] I bet https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:List_of_properties/Row&action=history is causing this [12:22:44] liangent: Both [12:35:22] please fix it :-) [12:38:45] do we already have some properties for datatype and ? [12:39:39] liangent: as far i know not [12:39:50] we don't [12:49:10] liangent: No, waiting for it. I don't know the ETA [12:54:39] liangent: We could do an evil hack (like the Commons category) and create lat/lon properties :P [12:54:42] (yuck!) [12:58:35] multichill: by using multiple fields of type number? [12:59:15] We don't have number yet so it would be strings [13:00:12] that's even more hacky [13:01:09] I said yuck for a reason ;-) [13:01:20] * multichill just waits for the real types to arrive [13:02:07] * Amir1 is waiting too [13:06:25] do we have some "Name" property? [13:07:47] used for old names, together with proper qualifiers [13:08:45] liangent: we have original name (for books and etc) [13:09:02] it's very helpful link [13:09:04] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties [13:13:20] help me for [13:13:23] imported from property? [13:13:44] Amir1: I was aware of that page, but it seems that property doesn't really fit my need [13:14:01] liangent: what do you want [13:14:08] you can propose new propties [13:14:14] properties [13:14:34] for example, when some person decides to use a new name? [13:14:45] hmm [13:14:47] propose [13:14:49] where should we store their old name [13:16:04] http://prntscr.com/13j1o6 [13:16:06] what to write :D [13:16:44] Amir1: should I call it "name" "old name" "all used names" or something? [13:17:02] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal [13:17:09] birth name [13:17:22] (It has been used in Infobox person) [13:18:24] Amir1: not really "birth name" if rename happened multiple times [13:18:32] let's assume it's a city then [13:22:27] hmm [13:22:40] You can make a topic in WD:PC [13:27:49] Amir1: is this the equivalent place as wikipedia's village pump? [13:28:04] yes [13:41:43] Hello all, I came across the discussion on "Item statistics available" at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat. I was wondering where I can find the scripts needed to compute the statistics, and links to the *exact* xml.bz2 files or sql.gz files used for this. [13:59:29] http://prntscr.com/13j1o6 [13:59:30] what to write :D [13:59:34] help me:D [14:01:21] English Wikipedia : [14:01:25] * :P [14:03:48] tnx [14:03:49] :) [14:43:41] Is theire a bot which fixes wrong formatted LCCNs? [14:54:16] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6251497 [14:54:19] is the desc good >.< [15:31:04] M4r51n: needs an 'instance of' house! :p [15:35:43] im learning step by step [15:36:09] i added source [16:01:04] guys for some human who is from Italia i should add [16:01:09] country (sovereign ..) [16:01:14] or country by citizenship [16:02:09] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1351882&diff=prev&oldid=35802672 <- uh oh [16:04:09] multichill: wut [16:04:19] That's perfectly fine. [16:04:26] * Sky2042 hopes sarcasm is international. [16:06:02] lol xd [16:11:20] Sky2042: Left him a note, let's see what happens [16:46:04] should we set "was blabla" in the description? [16:46:08] or just [16:46:10] "blabla" xd [16:46:10] ? [16:52:29] blabla [16:53:45] what about [16:53:48] "a member of" [16:53:49] or [16:53:51] "member of" [16:55:42] member of [16:55:53] also with an [16:55:55] tnx :) [18:16:17] what should i enter for music album [18:16:19] instance of [18:16:20] creative work? [18:17:26] subclass of music album [18:17:59] an instance of a music album is some unique instance of the album you'd have in your possession [18:18:45] but that wikipedia article / wikidata item describes the album as an abstract thing, not a concrete thing [18:19:51] see e.g. how "quark" is used in the 'subclass of' section of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Basic_membership_properties [18:20:31] tnx :) [19:16:29] hey legoktm, did you forget about http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Database_reports#Items_with_Template_links_and_a_.22.2F.22_in_them [19:16:50] i just havent gotten time to do it yet [19:17:04] ill try and get to it tonight [19:17:28] no rush [19:19:48] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48112 [19:19:53] i still have like 3 more bugs to file >.< [19:26:13] lol [19:28:51] legoktm: Probably another string you could add to the blacklist on the DBR for user pages could be "Template:User"? [19:29:05] er [19:29:11] it only checks for pages in the userspace though [19:29:23] unless the page is named "User:Template:User".... [19:29:36] oh, it's not checking the labels [19:29:38] okay [19:29:39] drp [19:42:09] Romaine: Gaat wel lekker he ;-) [20:17:19] het gaat prima [20:17:33] multichill, had ik niet echt verwacht [20:33:21] Ja, gaat wel lekker he. [20:33:34] Sorry voor de wat slome reactie Romaine. Net m'n vlucht naar China aan het boeken :-) [20:33:53] sloom? je reageert sneller op mij dan ik op jou :p [20:47:12] Romaine: Hoe had je het lijstje eigenlijk gemaakt? [20:48:18] ik heb drie verschillende interwikibot eigenaren gevraagd om de rest van de interwiki's te verplaatsen naar Commons (zijn geen interwikiconflicten) want ik kwam er nog hele series van tegen en ook om een lijst met interwikiconflicten [20:48:27] 1 daarvan maakte zo'n lijst [20:54:53] Ah, ok [20:55:10] Die cat met nog geen Comonscat link op Wikidata is ook goed [20:55:14] Daar zitten een hoop conflicten in [20:55:35] Veel van de conflicten die ik heb opgelost waren redelijk suf. Eigenlijk allemaal veroorzaakt door dwaze redirects [20:56:21] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1609485 <- zoiets als dit Romaine, hoe komt al die shit door elkaar? [20:56:42] wat ik me afvraag is of we ook een tool/middel/etc hebben om te achterhalen waar een Commonscategorie vandaan heen gelinkt wordt, met name op WD [20:57:08] We kunnen de sortkey truuk weer gebruiken [20:57:15] multichill: zie in de infobox op en-wiki onderin [20:57:28] Welke infobox bedoel je? [20:57:30] Synonyms: Conus binghamae [20:57:50] Goh, dat is dan de eerste [20:58:00] Zal je altijd zien als je een voorbeeld geeft ;-) [20:58:01] daar heb ik er al verschillende van gezien [20:58:32] en we komen er op nl-wiki vaak achter doordat bots ze voor beide namen hebben aangemaakt terwijl het dezelfde soort is [20:59:46] en ik zie regelmatig gebruikers categorie�n aanmaken zonder iw, zeker buitenlandse onderwerpen zouden toch echt wel iw's moeten hebben [21:00:43] maar geef nog maar een voorbeeld [21:00:45] :p [21:03:39] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9018036 en https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5835695 liepen door elkaar heen [21:04:42] Romaine: Zover ik kan zien geen synoniem [21:04:51] zie infobox: https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptopterus_baramensis [21:05:03] + https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptopterus_baramensis [21:05:10] + https://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptopterus_baramensis [21:06:03] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptopterus <- volgens deze aan de vissendatabase niet [21:06:51] en daarom leg ik dit soort conflicten voor aan biologen op nl-wiki [21:07:27] Ik maak er gewoon twee werkende items van en daarna mogen ze het uitpluizen [21:07:46] zolang het iw conflict is opgelost :) [21:08:19] Mocht het dezelfde zijn dan is het daarna gemakkelijk de verschillende talen langslopen om het samen te voegen [21:09:58] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2650387&diff=36000719&oldid=3605144 <- ok, this guy really doesn't get it [21:10:45] ik heb ook gebruikers gezien die denken dat ze [[ en ]] kunnen gebruiken om te linken :S [21:10:45] [3] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/_en_ [21:12:38] in de beschrijvingen [21:13:38] rschen7754: See you reverted him. Are you leaving him a note? [21:13:45] no, but feel free to [21:14:24] Already left him a message for something else this afternoon, it's better to hear it from someone new now otherwise he won't understand why you reverted him [21:14:36] (you didn't provide an edit summary) [21:15:31] https://toolserver.org/~magnus/ts2/reasonator/?q=Q7810 is fun btw [21:19:25] Good night [22:19:50] editing on wikidata is so addictive :D [22:21:57] isn't it? [22:40:51] uh cant get up from pc all day :D [22:41:07] i thought that wikipedia is the most addictive thing :D [22:41:11] but :D [22:42:16] blargh [22:43:36] I hate disambiguation pages with items which each have an English name and another language name. [22:43:56] I'm pretty sure the rule currently is to move the English-named pages to a similar page... blrgh [22:45:29] i dont go very deep into the items [22:45:36] just labels desc properties [22:45:41] linked and thats all :D [22:47:44] sure\ [22:48:12] already i have [22:48:14] about 260 edits [22:48:15] for 3 days [22:48:16] :D [23:41:31] hmm, I wonder if Wikidata basically replaces Wikispecies. [23:42:00] * Jasper_Deng has thought of that too but isn't that familiar w/ Wikispecies [23:45:51] Sky2042: Well kinda but not really. [23:46:09] There was a discussion on wikispecies-l a few months ago about it [23:46:29] The tl;dr is that Wikidata will greatly help Wikispecies, but won't come close to replacing it [23:46:46] what exactly does WS do that WD doesn't, out of curiosity? [23:46:52] or, WD + WP? [23:49:06] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikispecies-l/2013-January/000076.html [23:49:09] https://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat&diff=prev&oldid=5700778#Include_Wikispecies_into_Wikidata [23:49:22] https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Proposal_to_merge_Wikispecies_into_another_project [23:50:05] * Sky2042 goes to read. [23:52:22] enjoy :P [23:55:23] so far, I'm seeing mostly "Wikidata isn't complete". [23:55:30] Which is old news for any wiki. [23:55:33] :^) [23:56:36] the email thread I'm guessing is going to have more substantive objections [23:57:53] the question of having a database just for species seems an interesting one.