[03:34:27] legoktm: Legobot made a weird error at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q123118&diff=30415973&oldid=25131905 [03:34:40] Raymond Kopa isn't a list [03:34:48] [[Raymond Kopa]]* isn't a list [03:34:58] ughhhh [03:35:03] thanks [03:35:08] do you mind dropping that on my talk page? [03:36:36] sure [03:37:08] thanks, ill take a look and run a revert bot later tonight [03:51:55] Caution: Replication lag is high, changes newer than 1 weeks, 2 days, 12 hours, 14 minutes, 8 seconds may not be shown. - Edit counter [03:53:16] the rrdb is lagged [03:56:39] I can't believe that there are two people named Engelbert Humperdinck [03:56:48] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q343509 [04:00:06] bye [04:48:52] aude: hello [04:51:00] * Hazard-SJ says hello to liangent [04:51:33] Hazard-SJ: :) [04:51:48] :D [04:56:39] or is Lydia_WMDE around? [08:40:23] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "(hotfix) fixing SpecialWikibasePage" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62575 [08:44:42] Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62575 [08:54:31] Published patchset: Aude; "Separate default and override setting variables" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62466 [08:56:12] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61551 [10:01:03] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Strong dislike of splitting up the settings like that (the adding of the defaultStuff vars) - I do n..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62466 [10:03:01] New review: Aude; "@jeroen: okay, we keep the current settings system but with the current code *and* your patches, we ..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62466 [10:03:16] Change abandoned: Aude; "jeroen not like" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62466 [10:15:21] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This is wrong - only pass in the needed config - not ALL config. The current approach is better then..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61796 [10:23:42] New review: Aude; "jeroen no like" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61796 [10:58:13] about this page http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties there is example for sex -property " sex ". Should it be male (Q6581097) and how it can be fixed? [10:58:27] ups http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Person [11:47:02] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove pointless checks that obstruct library usage" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62584 [11:47:31] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 48145) Introducing listrotator widget to set time precision" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62585 [11:47:34] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 48145) Simplified input extender widget" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62586 [11:47:36] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 48145) Close icon for input extender" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62587 [12:05:44] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Applying input expander widget to TimeInput expert" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62152 [12:13:23] zeljkof: do you have one minute? [12:13:34] Tobi_WMDE: sure [12:14:00] ok, I' currently playing around with cucumber and try to migrate one of our tests [12:14:29] it already works! :) [12:14:34] so, my question [12:14:42] :) [12:15:08] all I specify under "Given" will be executed for each scenario, right? [12:15:19] no [12:15:22] no? [12:15:30] for me it seems liuke that [12:15:31] each scenario has it's own "given" [12:15:51] "background" is what gets executed for every scenario of a feature [12:16:03] ahh. [12:16:04] ok [12:16:11] understand [12:16:17] and usually "background" has only "given" steps [12:16:17] mixed it up with background [12:16:42] it is easy to get confused with cucumber :) [12:16:58] it is easy when you get to know it, but it is strange in the start [12:17:02] so, what would be the correct way to execute something only ONCE for all scenarios of one feature? [12:17:19] like a @beforeClass [12:17:38] https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests/blob/master/features/aftv5.feature#L6 [12:17:52] no, wait [12:18:04] that will execute before _every_ scenario [12:18:08] that would execute it for every scenario [12:18:11] yes [12:18:17] you want something to run only before the first scenario? [12:18:35] yes, e.g. I want to create some testdata for the given feature [12:18:54] which should be used by all scenarios of that feature [12:18:56] keep in mind that every scenario should be a world for itself [12:19:00] and not created new for every scenario [12:19:08] hm.. ok [12:19:11] every scenario has to create it's own data [12:19:17] I expected something like that [12:19:34] that is the only way to set it up so all tests could be executed randomly or in parallel in the future [12:19:36] ok, so some scenarios typicalle become rather large? [12:19:43] no [12:19:48] that is what background is for :) [12:20:15] ok. thanks. I'll try to get the test finished and submit it to gerrit today.. [12:20:16] every test is a bit slower, but you can run all of them in parallel, so the entire test run time is decreased [12:20:40] and when something fails, you know that you have to inspect only one scenario, nothing else should affect it [12:21:00] probably you've time the next days to have a look.. it won't be much for the moment, just the "label" test you've already tried [12:21:08] I see. [12:21:10] sure [12:21:15] add me to the reviewers [12:21:20] will do [12:21:24] do you use the same gerrit as WMF? [12:21:33] yes [12:21:36] great :) [12:21:39] just checking [12:21:54] nothing there yet [12:22:15] I mean, just checking if you use the same gerrit [12:22:33] depends what you mean with "same" [12:22:48] this: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org [12:23:02] yep [12:23:03] I mean, I have username there and all that [12:23:05] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase [12:23:07] sure [12:23:38] setting up things for another gerrit is not something I am looking forward to :) [12:23:50] Change abandoned: Aude; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61796 [12:24:08] it makes it easier if it is just cloning another repo from this gerrit [12:28:08] zeljkof: another question: what IDE do you use to write the tests? is there something useful for eclipse? [12:28:23] Tobi_WMDE: not sure about eclipse [12:28:26] I use rubymine [12:28:36] it has really good cucumber support [12:28:40] 30 day free trial [12:28:56] and open source license, if you like it and do not want to pay :) [12:29:06] ok. I'll have a look. thx :) [12:29:10] http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/ [12:29:46] http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/buy/buy.jsp#openSource [12:29:57] thx [12:29:59] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 48145) Applying input expander widget to TimeInput expert" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62152 [12:30:09] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 48145) Implemented input extender jQuery widget" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62151 [12:30:16] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 48145) Introduced timeinput jQuery widget" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61978 [12:42:07] addshore: sorry! [12:42:07] on my way [12:42:17] [= [12:43:03] there [12:43:55] addshore: got the invite? [12:44:05] I do indeed :) [13:11:22] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Experimental config switcher for WMF Jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [13:12:20] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Experimental config switcher for WMF Jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [13:38:20] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Use cucumber for selenium tests (WIP, DNM)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62598 [13:43:20] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Use cucumber for selenium tests (WIP, DNM)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62598 [13:44:36] zeljkof: I've added you as a reviewer for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62598/ [13:44:46] thanks [13:44:51] will take a look after lunch [13:45:08] I used your setup code as a base and removed everything I do not need for the moment [13:45:27] I also copied all page objects from our old tests and left them as the were [13:45:52] and I migrated one testcase (see label.feature and label_spec) [13:45:55] thx [14:52:27] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix incomplete tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62609 [14:57:19] legoktm: [14:57:41] seen Vogone [14:57:42] odder: The person with the nick Vogone last spoke 1d 22h ago. 1d 15h ago they left with the message: Quit: Nacht [14:58:33] legoktm: is there any particular reason why you guys closed all RfOS except Addshore? [15:00:29] New review: Zfilipin; "I have left a few comments. I have a meeting now, will continue later." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62598 [15:00:42] Tobi_WMDE: I have left a few comments. I have a meeting now, will continue later. [15:00:48] odder: addshore was the last one to run and a crat hasn't closed theirs yet [15:01:25] also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Abusefilter-view-private_and_abusefilter-log-private_for_rollbackers is kinda stalled [15:01:28] just sayin' [15:01:41] odder: Hm. [15:02:22] (I assigned the bug to myself, and will be poking you from to time or will just close it at some point.) [15:02:35] zeljkof: thx. will have a look! [15:02:37] I'm nice now. [15:02:57] odder: You mean the rollback one? [15:03:37] JohnLewis: yes [15:03:50] odder: Ok. [15:05:16] odder: It is stale. I would close it but I doubt that is really anything accepted as a community consensus. No consensus, perhaps. [15:26:29] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62609 [15:26:38] legoktm: you around? [15:27:06] hi [15:27:24] legoktm: The Disambig tool isn't workin on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q341112 and I have no idea how you found which item caused the edit conflict last time. [15:27:51] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Experimental config switcher for WMF Jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [15:27:56] I added an entity that does not pass the Notability guidelines [15:28:03] for a reason [15:28:21] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12857071 [15:28:26] what do you think? [15:29:11] for some reason I couldn't find an article about it in any wikipedia [15:31:19] Schisma_: Your item is a duplicate of http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4653 [15:31:38] the English Wikipedia article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes [15:32:12] in the future, I recommend that you use the "Item by title" search (look for Item by title in the lefthand column) [15:32:17] hashar: ping [15:32:40] do you know why the build is failing although all tests are passing? https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests/72/console [15:33:35] no [15:33:54] @Sven_Manguard thats the point [15:34:09] the entity is about the character, not the novel series [15:34:09] What's the point? [15:34:39] the novels were pointing to the character as 'series' [15:35:06] New patchset: Nemo bis; "Fix English in wikibase-error-constraint-violation-label" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62618 [15:35:15] but that's semantically wrong [15:42:46] I can't find anything on English Wikipedia Schisma_ and I don't know any other languages well enough to search [15:42:47] Sven_Manguard: Yes, but sorry I don't have time to look at it right now [15:42:56] legoktm: to the talk page? [15:43:11] sure [15:43:18] @Sven_Manguard had the same problem [15:43:39] wait, the tool is public now? [15:43:51] I thought it was still in closed beta [15:45:42] Tobi_WMDE: hey :-) [15:45:58] Tobi_WMDE: Test reports were found but none of them are new. Did tests run? [15:46:09] Sven_Manguard: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q223131&oldid=26943152 [15:46:15] Tobi_WMDE: seems I forgot to make the phpunit run to write the result as a junit xml file. [15:46:26] Tobi_WMDE: For example, /srv/ssd/jenkins/workspace/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests/junit-phpunit-allexts.xml is 1 day 2 hr old [15:46:32] hashar: ok [15:46:36] can you fix that? [15:46:58] Tobi_WMDE: so I have experimented with that job yesterday. Need to commit it in jenkins job builder [15:47:20] Schisma_: I don't see a problem with that [15:47:44] but then again I'm not terribly involved in the exclusion and inclusion criteria anymore [15:47:45] Tobi_WMDE: it is writing the file at the wrong place :-] [15:48:47] Tobi_WMDE: changed :-] retriggering the job [15:49:05] Q4653 is about a character. Q12857071 is about a novel series. Q223131 has the claim that it belongs to the series Q4653 [15:49:11] which is not a series at all [15:50:30] but i saw its notable because it meets criteria 3 in http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability [15:51:29] hashar: ok, waiting [15:51:55] Tobi_WMDE: did we get a bug for the wikidata issue? [15:52:04] Tobi_WMDE: success: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests/76/console [15:52:22] Tobi_WMDE: the junit xml files was written under /tests/phpunit/ instead of / [15:52:42] hashar: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48147 [15:52:45] cool [15:53:38] hashar: you have a link to the successful build? [15:56:11] Schisma_: yes, and also likely criteria 2 [15:56:51] yes [15:57:16] although I don't think the series has a name [16:01:07] Tobi_WMDE: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests/ [16:01:09] err [16:01:17] Tobi_WMDE: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests/76/console [16:01:57] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Experimental config switcher for WMF Jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [16:03:16] only mwext-Wikibase-server-tests has the change for now. [16:03:26] will look at making it available to other extensions later on [16:03:50] https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests/77/console \O/ [16:04:05] I am not entirely sure which tests are being run though [16:05:36] 5288 tests https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-server-tests/77/testReport/(root)/ [16:07:04] hashar: ok, so I'm going to merge the config switch [16:07:41] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Implemented toggler widget getting rid of utility function" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62625 [16:07:48] Tobi_WMDE: might need to remove the few var_dumps which are lying there :-D [16:07:51] laying [16:08:13] hashar: sure [16:09:00] hashar: I think we could then make the Wikibase-server-tests voting again [16:09:30] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Experimental config switcher for WMF Jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [16:09:58] Tobi_WMDE: yup after a couple days :-] [16:10:07] Tobi_WMDE: then got to do a similar fix for the client one [16:10:15] and I would like to rename the 'server' one to 'repo' [16:11:03] hashar: think for the client tests we need to fix the tests itself [16:11:10] New review: Zfilipin; "Final comments for today." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62598 [16:12:15] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Experimental config switcher for WMF Jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [16:12:34] hashar: I renamed it to mwext-Wikibase-repo-tests in the Wikibase.php [16:12:46] you still have to adjust the jenkins settings I guess [16:12:46] ah [16:12:51] let me rename it in Zuul / jenkins [16:15:42] Creating jenkins job mwext-Wikibase-repo-tests [16:18:47] Tobi_WMDE: ok I created the job in Jenkins and updated Zuul to point to the -repo- job [16:19:03] New patchset: Hashar; "Experimental config switcher for WMF Jenkins jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [16:19:04] retriggering [16:22:42] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61379 [16:23:02] hashar: merged the switcher [16:23:31] Tobi_WMDE: and the -repo- test is being run at https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-repo-tests/1/ [16:23:39] it is a bit slow though since it tests all extensions [16:27:25] hashar: : thx, I'll be off for today [16:27:45] Tobi_WMDE: same :-] [16:27:49] Tobi_WMDE: thanks for your assistance on that topic :-] [16:33:59] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Moving toggler widget from Wikibase to ValueView extension" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62636 [16:35:33] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Moving toggler widget from Wikibase to ValueView extension" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62638 [16:36:44] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Moving toggler widget from Wikibase to ValueView extension" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62636 [16:40:47] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove usage of DataType->getParsers" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61591 [16:58:34] Lydia_WMDE: Abraham_WMDE: damn, I should have titled that mail "FIRST!" :p [16:58:52] :P [16:59:47] JeroenDeDauw: :P [16:59:49] you should have [17:07:18] New patchset: Henning Snater; "(bug 48145) time parser: Reject parsing when no proper precision available" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62641 [17:28:32] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove empty test" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62644 [17:35:24] Hi I would like to help/contribute to the wikidata project - What is a starting point for this? [17:36:08] vatsala: Ultimately, adding labels and descriptions is a good place to start with Wikidata. [17:37:02] JohnLewis : oh ok, thanks for that [17:37:13] and properties.. [17:37:26] i also started with that its my 3 day :3 [17:38:01] M4r51n: All I ever did was Labels, descriptions and RfDs :P [17:38:17] legoktm: another one https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q150305# [17:42:52] rfds :D:? [17:58:29] M4r51n: That is all I did and I got myself to where I am now :P [17:58:52] what is rfds hehe :D? [17:59:03] Requests for Deletion [17:59:07] aah. [17:59:20] Made 5700 of them :P [17:59:22] i used to love wikidata more than wikipedia [17:59:39] gimme ur userpage pls :D [17:59:40] Used? [18:00:00] http://wikidata.org/wiki/User:John F. Lewis [18:00:07] >.< Underscores. [18:00:19] legoktm: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q221333# [18:01:29] when I get into the Wikidata [18:01:39] i spend more time on wikidata [18:15:04] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1493444 - added an entry to list of pages linked to this item [18:46:06] hello… can someone tell me if https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q221333 is the same as https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5286802 ? [18:46:23] should be… same name, disambiguation page… [18:50:00] et il y a aussi https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3033397 ??? [18:50:23] how many homonyms Dobromir [18:50:25] ? [18:54:22] hsarrazin: It's not the same [18:54:31] One is a disambiguation and the other something about names [18:54:35] Close, but not the same [18:58:06] ok… since I don't understand romanian or hungarian, I did not understand clearly ;) [19:25:28] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/05/lua-template-wanted-for-use-of-wikidata.html [19:25:38] Please help !! [19:34:39] GerardM: I don't think lists are implemented yet [19:35:06] That's one of the things I need for the lists of monuments [19:35:07] it does not need to be a list [19:35:20] what it needs is many instances of a template [19:35:48] take the example I included in my text [19:36:14] what I need is for every link a template pointing to Wikidata [19:37:51] when the LUA script first converts the list from Wiki links to Data links, I am in business for the second part [19:38:40] Hmm, ok. O btw, you might want to take a look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#Property:P9 GerardM [19:48:01] Schisma_: didn't we already agree that it did meet the notability guidelines? [19:48:13] oops [19:48:21] was scrolled way up [20:06:34] Anyone here speak German? [20:06:50] I need someone to check the validity of the item linked to at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1697127 [20:06:58] my bullshit senses are tingling [20:11:23] * addshore is currently failing to submit to gerrit >.< [20:24:15] What's wrong when I enter a property such as {{#property:p123}} into an article, but instead of a proper text string it just shows up the Wikidata item ID, such as "Q1481820"? [20:28:06] Seems to work correctly on English Wikipedia but not in Finnish. [20:37:33] ZeroOne: That's because Q1481820 doesn't have Finnish label yet ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1481820?uselang=fi ) [20:41:52] hoo: d'oh! Any way around it (besides "translating" it, like I just did)? It's not like Virgin Interactive is something else in Finnish than "Virgin Interactive". [20:42:33] Language fall backs are planned and I'm pretty sure we have a bug for that. Lydia_WMDE might be able to tell you more? [20:42:47] something like "{{#property:p123|uselang=en}}"? [20:42:56] ok [20:43:43] ZeroOne: No, not like that... that would require that you know of the value on fiwiki (which you don't). [20:45:08] hoo: Not like what? I shouldn't have "translated" the name or "{{#property:p123|uselang=en}}" would be a bad format? [20:45:38] ZeroOne: The format is bad ;) [20:45:48] Translating is always good :D [20:46:43] hoo: Right. :) But I still don't understand what you mean by it requiring me "to know the value on fiwiki"? [20:47:57] ZeroOne: If you do uselang=en on fiwiki you have to know that there's no Finnish translation and you have to hard code the fall back for every use [20:59:25] hoo: Hmm, true. How about fallbacklang=en? of course it'd be nice if this could be a page-wide setting, something like {{FALLBACKLANGUAGE|en}}. [20:59:26] [1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:FALLBACKLANGUAGE [20:59:41] thanks AsimovBot, that's what I needed. [21:00:36] ZeroOne: I think those are more going to be like global fallback chains (language wide) so that Finnish always falls back to ..., ..., and then English [21:06:09] New patchset: Addshore; "Bug fix for 41619" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62731 [21:06:38] hoo: OK, that'd work. But for now, how do I recognize a missing translation and not-show the useless "Q1481820" string to the user? [21:07:47] I have some technical doubt about phase II [21:08:39] Just some? [21:09:13] for example, to make automatic categories? [21:12:03] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62731 [21:13:53] Some of pages linked on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6823810 must moved to http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9870773 this needs a cross language help [21:20:30] Also on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6863952 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6858338 [21:26:04] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62731 [21:54:48] New patchset: Addshore; "Bug fix for 41619" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62731 [22:05:56] Any Wikibase developers here? [22:17:35] legoktm: can you depreciate P293 and P294 for me please? [22:17:53] with your ~~black~~bot magic [22:40:06] Hazard-SJ: I mad you the lists [22:40:22] addshore: UMAD? [22:40:30] made :/ [22:41:30] Reedy: how do i link a bug in zilla to a gerrit change? [22:41:41] right above the change id [22:41:43] add the line [22:41:43] Bug: 123456789 [22:41:47] "Bug: 123456" [22:44:08] New patchset: Addshore; "Bug fix for 41619" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62731 [22:44:37] i see :P [22:45:02] addshore: I didn't expect to see you around :P [22:45:11] Hazard-SJ: i have been waiting here all day for you :P [22:45:18] *jokes* [22:45:24] :D [22:46:01] haz >> tools.wmflabs.org/addshore/addbot/iwlinks/raw.html [22:47:39] * Hazard-SJ found it from the RFBOT [22:47:48] [= [22:47:56] addshore: Are the lists already filtered by ns? [22:47:57] do you want any changes made? :P [22:48:03] Hazard-SJ: yep [22:48:08] (or should be) [22:48:38] addshore: And they already have items on WD? [22:48:49] some do, some dont [22:49:00] [22:49:01] gj [22:49:21] addshore: Blank pages look suprisingly like fatals [22:49:50] * Hazard-SJ thinks [22:52:33] addshore: BTW do you remember that message I left you on en some time ago? :P [22:53:15] not really :P [22:54:25] * Hazard-SJ goes to archive to dig it up [22:57:04] Reedy: like my html skills? ;p [22:57:52] really i should just have it output as a txt [22:58:59] * Hazard-SJ wonders if addshore is going to do that [22:59:14] i dont see any major need to rush into it ;p [22:59:44] addshore: NO PAGES LEFT [22:59:57] addshore: BTW what happened to bots-bnr4 on labs? [23:00:40] addshore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Addshore/Archive_15#Wikipedia:Bots.2FRequests_for_approval.2FAddbot_26 [23:01:33] Hazard-SJ: as far as i know nothing..? [23:02:34] Reedy: http://tools.wmflabs.org/addshore/addbot/iwlinks/raw.html?lang=boo ;p [23:03:02] oh my god Hazard, that was indeed a long time ago. [23:03:47] i did look but I honestly can remember what I saw [23:06:47] anyone faced this? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47732 [23:10:07] I'm not sure that would fix the issue [23:10:28] Oh [23:10:37] I was thinking it was at the point of population of the sites table [23:13:37] addshore: I can't connect to it and I didn't see it on the project page on the wiki [23:13:47] (the instances list for the project) [23:14:33] Hazard-SJ: why are you even still using it? :P [23:15:13] use the grid and or more to tools [23:15:48] I can connect to bots-4 and I see it on the project page btw ;p [23:16:25] It wasn't there yesterday (I'll check again), and I still can't connect [23:17:55] where are you connecting from? [23:17:57] It still isn't there, addshore :S [23:18:12] link me to the page your looking at... [23:18:34] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Bots#Instances_for_this_project [23:19:19] 15th in the list, 3 from the bottom [23:21:29] addshore: I just noticed you said bots-4 ... I said bots-bnr4 [23:22:00] oh, bnr4 got removed as the resources were no longer really beign used much :) [23:24:23] * Hazard-SJ gets angry [23:24:55] * Hazard-SJ was using that... [23:26:16] ..? [23:26:24] Hazard-SJ: using it for what? :O [23:31:04] Familiarizing myself with Labs ... I might have had a one-time task running from it at some point, but... [23:31:13] * Hazard-SJ changes to bnr3 :( [23:33:16] Hazard-SJ: no! [23:33:19] use the grid :p [23:33:40] your not really meant to have anything on the individual nodes [23:33:54] just use -login for your cron to submit things to the grid ! [23:34:31] see https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Bots#Using_OGE [23:34:45] addshore: even my crontab? :P [23:34:54] crontab should be on the login server [23:35:10] OGE then distributes the jobs depending on the loads of bnr1 bnr2 bnr3 [23:35:23] also it mihgt be worth you trying to move to tools and reading https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help [23:36:37] addshore: I have no tools at present [23:36:51] bots are meant to run on tools [23:37:05] everything is just nammed badly and cannot currenlty be renammed [23:37:16] * Reedy hands addshore a dictionary [23:37:16] :| [23:37:32] bots should really be nammed tools-beta , and tools is sortof tools-production [23:37:43] addshore: so what is Bots for if Tools is for bots? :S [23:37:58] Hazard-SJ: ^^ [23:38:26] Reedy: im lying down watching tv :P no position to be typing in and spelling correctly [23:39:52] The Bots project: Nova Resource:Bots (for long running jobs) [23:39:53] The Tools project: Nova Resource:Webtools (for web applications) [23:40:18] addshore: ^^ is that correct? [23:40:33] no [23:41:09] * Hazard-SJ wonders where he can get something correct [23:42:18]