[00:00:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 48622) [DataValues] Introduction of UnUnserializableValue" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64543
[00:01:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 48622) [DataValues] Introduction of UnUnserializableValue" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64543
[00:03:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Update of the jQuery.wikibase.Claimview's isValid behavior" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64544
[00:03:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 48622) When unserializing Snaks, consider faulty data value JSON" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64545
[00:08:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Change calendar IDs to match Denny's guidelines" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64546
[00:08:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 48622) When unserializing Snaks, consider faulty data values JSON" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64545
[00:09:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "[time.js/DataValues] Change calendar IDs to match Denny's guidelines" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64546
[00:16:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(48145) Moving "Time" data type out of experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64547
[00:32:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(48145) Moves "Time" data type out of experimental" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64547
[00:39:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(Bug 48622) When unserializing Snaks, consider faulty data values JSON" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64545
[04:47:53] <The_Anonymouse>	 Hi, could someone please give me access to #wikidata-admin?
[04:49:07] <rschen7754>	 The_Anonymouse: doing
[04:51:11] <rschen7754>	 The_Anonymouse: check your invites
[04:51:48] <The_Anonymouse>	 rschen7754: thanks
[04:51:52] <rschen7754>	 np
[10:43:54] <hsarrazin>	 hello, anybody here knowing about the Authority control tool ?
[10:50:58] <hsarrazin>	 salut Tpt_ :)
[11:02:42] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: Salut!
[11:02:58] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: comment vas-tu ?
[11:03:09] <Tpt_>	 Bien et toi ?
[11:03:27] <hsarrazin>	 ok…
[11:03:44] <hsarrazin>	 as-tu déjà utilisé l'outil de Magnus pour les AC sur wikidata ?
[11:04:39] <Tpt_>	 Pas tellement.
[11:05:03] <Tpt_>	 Pour l'instant il faut plutôt laisser faire les bots d'import et corriger derrière eux les erreurs?
[11:07:49] <Tpt_>	 Pour cela, les listes comme https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P213 sont utiles.
[12:26:45] <multichill>	 addshore: You online?
[12:55:16] <addshore>	 multichill: yes
[12:55:22] <addshore>	 sort of
[12:55:24] <addshore>	 :D
[12:55:57] <multichill>	 I was looking at http://tools.wmflabs.org/addshore/addbot/iwlinks/raw.html?lang=nl and I noticed a lot of articles that could easily be linked
[12:56:15] <multichill>	 Take for example https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eupithecia_classicata
[12:56:20] <multichill>	 Is that something your bot does?
[12:56:42] <addshore>	 not right this second :/
[12:56:50] <addshore>	 I had to turn off the importing to wikidata it 
[12:56:51] <addshore>	 *bit
[12:56:58] <addshore>	 but I hope to work on it at the hackathon this weekend
[12:58:48] <Pyfisch>	 can a botowner here create 1800 items for person related articles in the german wikipedia?
[12:59:17] <multichill>	 addshore: Would be nice to just have a bot in pywikipedia to do this so other people can help out
[12:59:27] <addshore>	 I dont do python ;p
[13:01:15] <nikki>	 are there any plans to have a proper merge function that redirects old ids instead of breaking them?
[13:01:42] <Pyfisch>	 I have a list of articles without an wikidata item generated by my bot, but my bot only adds claims and descs and it cant import sitelinks or create items
[13:02:20] <multichill>	 I'm quite anoyed by the fact that everyone seems to be cooking their own code instead of sharing it
[13:03:17] * Reedy  open sources multichill

[13:05:16] <Pyfisch>	 multichill: yes I think this is one big problem, but as big as the problem you mentioned is I think that we don't have coordination for our bots
[13:09:10] <multichill>	 True Pyfisch. For one the wrinting of the code and the running of the bots are two seperate things that are now heavily mixed.
[13:10:49] <addshore>	 multichill: mine is open
[13:11:03] <addshore>	 and I welcome anyone to improve on it, or try and put it into python
[13:11:30] <addshore>	 but currently it is messy php as I have had no time since phase1 really until the hackathon
[13:11:52] <multichill>	 My goals would be to have all the basic bots in Pywikipedia so a lot more people can run it
[13:12:16] <multichill>	 Besides that we probably have more advanced things like what you're doing addshore. That could be based of the framework or not
[13:12:42] <addshore>	 my task could easily be done my pywikipedia
[13:12:45] <addshore>	 i just dont know how :P
[13:13:09] <addshore>	 *by
[13:13:41] <Pyfisch>	 multichill: If there are people interested in my bot I will publish it - after cleaning up the code. I think I have a good, extensiable template and category wrapper part which can be used for all kinds of import bots.
[13:14:31] <addshore>	 multichill: you any good with pywikipedia?
[13:14:48] <multichill>	 Pyfisch: Lol, you know you're making the age old mistake: "Clean up and than publish" ;-)
[13:15:54] <multichill>	 addshore: Good enough
[13:16:16] <addshore>	 well, I can write perfect psuedocode for functions of my bot
[13:16:52] <addshore>	 im just rairly sure I cant write a single line of py ;p
[13:17:24] <Pyfisch>	 addshore: python is easy to learn :-p
[13:17:37] <addshore>	 teach me? :)
[13:19:11] <multichill>	 addshore: Take for example http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/pywikipedia/branches/rewrite/scripts/claimit.py?revision=11537&view=markup
[13:20:10] <addshore>	 i think the problem might even be more the fact that I just dont know pywikipedia well enough to make it efficient..
[13:21:13] <multichill>	 The whole Wikidata implementation in Pywikipedia is new to me too, but I'm getting the hang of it
[13:21:37] <addshore>	 I could write api functions in php and make it do exactly what I want in about 5% of the time it would take me to read into everything I need to do in pywikipedia and do it
[13:21:56] <addshore>	 bbl :)
[13:22:26] <multichill>	 Pyfisch: Take https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eupithecia_classicata, is your bot able to process this?
[13:23:17] <Pyfisch>	 multichill: yes!
[13:23:46] <Pyfisch>	 (but my bot don't speak nl) ;-)
[13:30:08] <Pyfisch>	 multichill: my bot does something similar with persondaten on dewp.
[13:30:53] <multichill>	 I meant linking the nl and enwiki articles in a wikidata item
[13:34:23] <Pyfisch>	 multichill: ok my bot can't do this yet. I only works on claims, sources and descriptions
[13:38:55] <multichill>	 Pyfisch: :-(
[13:39:39] <Pyfisch>	 multichill: I think legoktm has published source code for this
[14:15:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "first draft of the RDF dump creating script (DO NOT MERGE)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64081
[14:15:41] <Denny_WMDE>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/64081/
[14:26:56] <Pyfisch>	 multichill: here my bot code: https://github.com/pyfisch/wikidata-import-bot
[14:57:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Catch property not found exception in snak formatter" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64578
[14:57:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "(bug 48497) Check for property id exists in ByPropertyIdArray" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64579
[15:19:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64578
[15:20:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aude; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf4) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64579
[15:27:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "RDF dump creating script" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64081
[16:16:49] <Guest36185>	 hello, wanted to correct links: Fio de Ariadne (lógica)  (pt)  with Ariadnefaden (german) but it was impossible. both articles have the same subject and are beside the language identical.
[16:18:29] <Guest36185>	 Site link pt:Fio de Ariadne (lógica) already used by item Q3655970. is ok , but why not linked together?
[16:22:47] <Guest36185>	 ladmin
[16:23:38] <hoo>	 Guest36185: You first have to remove the links from one the items as a link can only be used in one
[16:26:57] <Guest36185>	 excuse me, it's the first time i found such an error, both articles are linkend to other languages, de to polan, pt to english, and ?russia, to much for a beginner. could you please beg another people to do that?  thank you for assistance and have a nice day
[16:28:38] <Guest36185>	 good bye
[16:58:19] <Denny_WMDE>	 oh guest has gone
[16:58:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 i am not sure it is really the same item
[17:05:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Denny Vrandecic; "changed namespaces a bit, added license" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64538
[17:09:26] <hsarrazin>	 help… I found 2 items, with very different names, that seem to be the same person, from the description I can understand… how do you deal with that ?
[17:10:08] <hsarrazin>	 Q560443 and Q65276 ??
[17:10:22] <hsarrazin>	 I don't understand enough German to be able to differentiate…
[17:26:41] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: They have both articles on the English Wikipedia and the article about Bernhard Knipperdolling explains that he is a follower of Jean de Leyde
[17:27:09] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: merci… :))
[17:27:34] <hsarrazin>	 je suis tombée dessus à partir de la liste d'ISNI en doubles…
[17:28:27] <hsarrazin>	 c'est marrant… jusqu'ici, tous ceux qui ne sont pas des doublons viennent d'une erreur de VIAF du wikipedia de ;)
[17:30:12] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: de ? J'en ai vu aussi beaucoup de problématiques venant de en.
[17:30:22] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: c'est curieux, les deux semblent être morts le même jour, le 22 janvier 2536…
[17:30:56] <hsarrazin>	 pour le moment, ceux que j'ai trouvé venaient de de… mais je n'en ai fait que quelques dizaines au total… 
[17:30:59] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: Il ont sans doute été exécutés le même jour lors de la prise de la ville
[17:31:56] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: *1536 évidemment, pas 2536… et tu as sans doute raison… je ne me suis pas penchée en détail sur leur histoire ;)
[17:34:25] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: ma question tout à l'heure, à propos de l'outil AC, concernait des personnes qui n'ont pas d'autorité sur les wp de référence… donc pas moyen de les récupérer par bot…
[17:34:56] <hsarrazin>	 or, on les a sur Commons… mais tout reporter à la main, c'est… beeuuuuuuhhhhh
[17:34:59] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: A cause de l'import depuis VIAF qui ne marche pas ?
[17:35:04] <hsarrazin>	 oui,
[17:38:04] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: si au moins, on pouvait récupérer les autres valeurs en rentrant le VIAF correct… 
[17:38:29] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: Je vais essayer de débugger cela.
[17:38:55] <hsarrazin>	 ça serait super sympa… j'ai mis un petit message à Magnus, tout à l'heure…
[17:41:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tpt; "Some (maybe silly) questions." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64538
[17:49:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Removed useless root job params." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64599
[17:53:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Beware: the method touched does not have test coverage" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64599
[17:57:37] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: Son code repose majoritairement sur un outil qu'il a développé sur les Wikimedia Labs ce qui rend le code difficile à comprendre rapidement. Le plus simple est donc de lui dire que la recherche sur VIAF de son script https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/authority_control.js  ne se termine souvent pas quand on l'exécute avec Firefox/Chrome/....
[17:58:10] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: ok, merci… ça fonctionne chez toi ?
[17:58:24] <Tpt_>	 hsarrazin: Non
[17:58:35] <Tpt_>	 pas sous Firefox 23
[17:58:40] <hsarrazin>	 je vais faire un test avec Safari, pour voir…
[18:00:45] <hsarrazin>	 Tpt_: ça ne marche pas non plus avec Safari… :S
[18:04:54] <Reedy>	       8 Warning:  assert() [<a href='function.assert'>function.assert</a>]: Assertion failed in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf4/extensions/Wikibase/DataModel/DataModel/Claim/Claims.php on line 283
[18:04:57] <Reedy>	 More of those apparently
[18:06:39] <aude>	 not that again
[18:15:47] <pragunbhutani>	 hello aude 
[18:16:08] <Reedy>	 aude: Done. Not sure if you need a scap, but there's one coming anyway for login stuffs
[18:16:16] <aude>	 hi pragunbhutani 
[18:16:34] <aude>	 Reedy: not this time
[18:16:38] <pragunbhutani>	 aude: does the site links table on the left use an entity id?
[18:17:29] <aude>	 on the left?
[18:19:27] <aude>	 Reedy: if the assertion thing appears more, then i can take more look at it
[18:19:36] <Reedy>	 It comes and goes
[18:19:41] <aude>	 seems a different issue
[18:19:42] <pragunbhutani>	 aude: on a wikibase client article page
[18:20:01] <aude>	 pragunbhutani: ok, the "language links"?
[18:20:06] <aude>	 in the sidebar?
[18:20:12] <pragunbhutani>	 aude: yes, exactly
[18:21:05] <aude>	 yes, when a page is parsed (e.g. saved), it finds out based on page title, if it has a "connected" wikidata item
[18:21:09] <aude>	 then stores the entity id
[18:21:17] <aude>	 in the parser output
[18:21:55] <aude>	 it also injects links from wikidata in the language links list
[18:22:18] <aude>	 entity id is used to construct the "edit links" link
[18:22:43] <pragunbhutani>	 okay, so if it stores the entity ID, all I have to do is find where it's stored and then add it to the info items of the page through a hook
[18:23:18] <aude>	 for the info action, we might want to do a separate lookup in the site link table
[18:23:35] <pragunbhutani>	 how do I do that?
[18:27:25] <aude>	 pragunbhutani: the SiteLinkTable class has methods for looking up an entity id by site link (client page title and site id)
[18:30:15] <pragunbhutani>	 SiteLinkTable class in Wikibase client?
[18:31:15] <pragunbhutani>	 ah okay, I've found it
[18:31:17] <aude>	 its in wikibase lib (shared code that the repo uses)
[18:32:15] <aude>	 so then you need to figure out how to construct a "SiteLink" object
[18:32:36] <aude>	 from a "site id" and page title
[18:33:09] <pragunbhutani>	 I think I see it
[18:33:19] <pragunbhutani>	 I'll just paste bin a part of code
[18:33:23] <aude>	 ok
[18:34:24] <pragunbhutani>	 http://pastebin.com/Qqn1CrHk
[18:36:17] <aude>	 pragunbhutani: the right direction :)
[18:36:38] <aude>	 i don't think info=action has access to the $parser but there are other ways there to get the title object
[18:37:04] <pragunbhutani>	 I found that in parserhooks/PropertyParserFunction.php
[18:37:17] <aude>	 ok
[18:37:31] <aude>	 the parser function definitely has access to Parser
[18:38:11] <pragunbhutani>	 so $entityId should already have the information stored in it?
[18:38:24] <pragunbhutani>	 even if we have to do a new lookup
[18:38:36] <pragunbhutani>	 it can be done the same way, can't it
[18:38:36] <pragunbhutani>	 ?
[18:39:52] <aude>	 entityId is what we what, if that's what you are asking?
[18:40:08] <pragunbhutani>	 yes
[18:40:49] <aude>	 ok
[18:41:22] <aude>	 EntityId is an object but it's possible to get the prefixed id from it
[18:41:25] <aude>	 e.g. q60
[18:41:42] <aude>	 that's what should be added to info=action
[18:44:19] <pragunbhutani>	 oh okay, I see what you mean
[18:44:44] <pragunbhutani>	 we only want a particular data member
[19:47:58] <pragunbhutani>	 aude: in Wikibase Lib, there's a function 'public function getEntityID that returns the id in a string
[19:48:27] <pragunbhutani>	 so if I can create and object and call that method on the object, we should have a string with the ID that can be added to the info actions
[19:51:30] <aude>	 pragunbhutani: where is that method?
[19:59:00] <pragunbhutani>	 aude: extensions/Wikibase/client/includes/WikibaseLibrary.php
[19:59:19] <pragunbhutani>	 Line 94 onwards
[20:03:35] <aude>	 back...