[01:14:00] New review: Pragunbhutani; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64644 [04:05:28] So this seems pretty cute ... in a way [04:05:39] ? [04:07:12] The channel? [04:08:20] no, wikidata [04:10:05] You new to the project? [04:11:56] I've seen bits and pieces of it on Wikipedia [04:12:07] cause of that whole language link migration [04:12:18] It's cool once you figure it out. [04:21:42] Well just ask if you have any questions, etc. [04:22:16] Okay, is there a property for marking something that a list is about? [04:22:28] i.e. saying that http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2603158 is a list related to MLP FiM [04:22:43] Main topic? [04:23:05] Is a list of. [04:23:17] Wait a second. [04:23:29] Main topic would be MLP FiM. [04:23:37] Is a list of would be characters. [04:28:57] woah ... ehh ... somehow I created a duplicate entry for the show http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6945904 [04:29:41] I can delete it. [04:30:02] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5415 already existed, yet I somehow didn't make it to there in the first place. The search is still a tad awkward [04:30:32] Done. [08:59:19] New review: Hoo man; "This one's fine to Aude and me, thanks for the patch." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64644 [09:00:39] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64644 [10:30:10] Lydia_WMDE: Did you find Oliver? As I know where he is now.. [10:30:32] Reedy: jep - all good - thanks :) [10:33:14] should things like http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q48320 also be marked as instance of: city? [10:34:40] I've seen some which are marked as both cities and special types of cities and some which are only marked as a special type of city and I don't know which is preferred [10:48:08] Related [10:48:55] Does it make sense to have http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q494721 as a separate thing? [10:49:28] And if so, shouldn't it be called "Japanese city" or something? [10:49:37] * reosarevok sees people using it wrong http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q494721 [11:22:38] WMDE do better foods ;) [11:32:59] * nikki finds another case where the english wikipedia has a single page for two separate things :( [11:33:18] nikki: Old news! [11:33:22] :P [11:33:29] that doesn't help me fix it! [11:33:40] This time is a town *and* a river [11:33:41] Sorry! [11:33:43] It's like ffs :/ [11:33:49] lol [11:38:05] is there a way to get all the subclasses of something? [11:38:31] (preferably an easy way :P) [11:41:23] nikki: Probably. [11:41:30] We really need a tech project chat. [11:41:40] I thought this was the tech project chat :) [11:41:42] Or rather, just go ask proejct chat and see what they say [11:42:00] reosarevok: Then the people who need tech help would ping the people who can give tech help. :P [11:42:49] heh [11:43:04] I mean, we do have one developer chat and a normal one, so that certainly sounds like a good idea to us :) [11:44:47] It would seem that it also needs to allow linking the same wiki page to two concepts :/ [11:44:55] I imagine there has been discussion on that though? [11:45:42] ("pick one of them" doesn't seem like a great long-term option :/ ) [11:46:22] reosarevok: Check RFC. the closest thing is linking redirects [11:46:28] I mean, ideally it would be "have a page per concept in wikipedias" but that sounds hard to enforce :p [11:46:30] which there is some support for there. [11:46:44] With all the notability madness [11:46:45] sure, but that's part of the point of Wikidata I suppose. [11:48:35] bah [11:48:50] we don't have an item for the concept of "surface" used outside mathematics [11:49:49] I bet there's one in some of the non-English wikis that is waiting to be labeled [11:50:47] we do have an item for the English term "city" from the Dutch wiki though... http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2215397 :p [11:50:55] (no idea what to do with *that*) [11:51:23] wait, seriously? [11:51:25] * Sky2042 boggles [11:51:36] i would see about getting that redirected [11:51:38] :| [11:51:43] But where to? [11:51:50] [[nl:stad]] of course [11:51:51] [3] 10https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/stad [11:52:02] Oh, redirected in nlwiki proper [11:52:06] yes [11:52:13] that's sometimes the answer [11:52:17] I'll leave that to a Dutch speaker [11:52:20] (any around? :) ) [11:58:24] well, fuck. is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_deck a helicopter pad or a ship deck? [11:58:39] * Sky2042 also kicks wikidata for putting him on the secure site for some godforsaken reason [11:59:01] It's clearly a ship pad and a helicopter deck :p [11:59:24] I'd say it's a subclass of helicopter pad, located in a ship deck? [12:00:17] :| [12:00:26] do we have a property for located in/on [12:00:34] no idea :) [12:00:37] * Sky2042 loves languages that make in and on the same word. [12:02:05] on the earth [12:02:33] Another one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poop_deck is a deck or a roof? [12:02:44] Wait, are decks themselves roofs or floors? [12:02:49] * Sky2042 cries out in agony. [12:02:57] roofs seem not so important to label [12:03:45] indeed, but simply because we don't think of them as roofs doesn't mean that they aren't. [12:39:11] Sky2042: from the description of the item on en, I would say a deck, that is at the same time the roof of a cabin ;) [12:39:23] * Sky2042 kicks hsarrazin. [12:39:52] Sky2042: hey, I was just try to help… :( [12:40:13] That would be the conundrum I was in tyvm. :( [12:41:39] Sky2042: the problem, in naval architecture, is that almost all horizontal structure are, at the same time, roof and floor… :) but I think, for a deck, the "floor" aspect is the most important [12:41:51] sure [12:54:36] Reviewwwww! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/64943/ [12:54:45] Danwe_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE__ ^ [13:41:28] Danwe_WMDE: Y U NO https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/64943/ ? :p [13:42:08] Danwe_WMDE: this need to be done before the WMF Jenkins config can be updated to use the WikibaseDatabase test config file [13:42:08] JeroenDeDauw: I am not the expert for those evil php unit hacks [13:42:26] Danwe_WMDE: the only evil suff there is how MW is loaded [13:42:33] That is the only thing the evil.php file does [13:42:51] According to wikitech this is the most sane approach currently possible [13:42:54] I guess it won't really harm [13:43:11] Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64943 [13:43:59] Danwe_WMDE: it is not even loaded in production runs [13:44:06] Only via the test bootstrap [13:45:56] I know [13:45:59] that's why it won't really harm ;) [14:29:48] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove not needed code from evil MW loader" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65459 [14:56:02] hello... need help please :) [14:56:57] how to indicate a profession, when the name of the profession does not exist ? only the disciplin [[Q7205]] ? [14:56:58] [4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7205 [19:25:23] hey reoafk, you should fix http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Interwiki_conflicts#Sindal_.28town.29_vs_Sindal_.28municipality.29 :P [19:27:42] <3 [19:47:55] !admin [19:48:04] yes graf? [19:49:02] odd [19:49:09] Indeed. [19:49:46] probably a spammer or something [20:35:46] is it possible mainsnak of a claim would be empty? [20:37:20] mainsnak? [20:42:15] aude: sorry, is it possible a reference have two snak in the same time? [20:46:46] nvm :) [20:54:27] Sky2042: nah, but maybe I should add [[en:Hirtshals]] to the list [20:54:28] [5] 10https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirtshals [20:54:38] reosarevok: D: [20:54:45] nuuuuuuuu [20:54:48] :p [21:45:46] ebraminio: Thanks for the change! :D [21:46:48] Sky2042: Ops, sorry. What change? [21:47:05] the "don't force me to go to another page" change. [21:47:07] :D [21:47:57] Sky2042: Oh. That wasn't added by me. It is a good idea but I can not use it also :P [21:48:36] well, either way, removing it makes you awesome. [21:48:38] :D [21:50:49] Sky2042: :D [21:56:41] ebraminio: Wait, did you understand my request? I'm still being required to refresh the other item. And I just cleared my cache. [21:57:08] Sky2042: really? check if you imported my script or ricardo's [21:57:19] :O [21:57:22] * Sky2042 goes to check. [21:57:38] * Sky2042 drped [21:57:54] ebraminio: Is there anything about the two scripts other than what you've been working today? [21:58:03] different* [21:58:12] Sky2042: hmm, i don't remember [21:58:29] Sky2042: but no I think [21:58:44] kay [21:58:51] using your script now and I am happy! :D :D [21:58:57] Sky2042: :D [22:05:49] I'm not sure if it's possible, but it would be ideal if the javascript didn't load on the deletion screen. [22:06:10] or rather, on the page where the "This item has been deleted" appears [22:08:20] Sky2042: deletion screen? [22:08:30] um, sec [22:08:58] http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5077161&action=edit&redlink=1 this one, it's available as an item in the dropdown even though it wouldn't do anything because it can't merge a deleted item [22:09:04] (for example) [22:09:48] redlink=1 isn't necessarily a constant in this case, since you can get to this page by refreshing the deleted item. [22:10:09] Sky2042: hmm [22:10:31] not sure there's anything you can do. [22:10:36] Sky2042: about bug #4 was because of deletion of http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D4%BF%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%A5%D5%A3%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%AB%D5%A1:%D4%B5%D5%BE%D6%80%D5%B8%D5%BA%D5%A1%D5%B5%D5%AB_%D5%A1%D5%B7%D5%AD%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B0%D5%A1%D5%A3%D6%80%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B6_%D5%A8%D5%BD%D5%BF_%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%AF%D6%80%D5%AB [22:10:51] * Sky2042 isn't going to click that link. All the percent encoding. X_x [22:10:59] ebraminio: ah okay [22:11:06] so the IW link didn't exist then [22:12:00] Sky2042: Wikidata cannot detect the page is deleted from wikipedia and this is not cool [22:12:20] :( [22:12:21] :( [22:13:56] ebraminio: is there any way to check the settings of the deleting admin? it would be nice not to have to manually unwatch the pages after I delete them, but I know that some admins have their settings to "watch pages I delete" [22:14:08] so a hard "unwatch page" doesn't seem appropriate. [22:14:27] (this is of course because i also have checked "watch pages i edit") [22:14:58] Sky2042: hmm, w8 [22:15:13] okay! [22:15:26] Sky2042: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist [22:15:53] Sky2042: so you want redlinks to be auto checked? [22:16:11] to the former: when your watchlist is over 2k pages.... ;3 [22:16:27] to the latter, autochecked? [22:17:10] on a side note, it would be nice if MW sorted the edit watchlist page into deleted and undeleted pages [22:17:16] :0 [22:19:25] also, default settings would be nice (via cookie if necessary) :D [22:19:56] Sky2042: just w8, I am making a little code for this :D [22:20:10] okay okay :D [22:20:24] it's just nice to have a dev on irc is all :D [22:24:57] Sky2042: $('.mw-htmlform-flatlist-item').each(function (x, y) { if ($('a:first', y).is('.new')) { y.firstChild.checked = true; } }) [22:25:19] Sky2042: :D [22:25:33] * Sky2042 is not entirely sure what that says. [22:25:40] * Sky2042 really needs to learn to program. [22:25:48] Sky2042: what is your browser? [22:25:51] firefox [22:26:52] Sky2042: press ctrl+k and enter that code [22:27:12] it will auto click all red links for you [22:27:29] on my watchlist? [22:27:32] hmm [22:27:32] yes [22:28:45] control k only fills the search box... [22:28:47] lol [22:29:15] or rather, focuses the search box [22:29:19] Sky2042: On http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist Ctrl+Shift+K sorry [22:30:14] can you restrict to only pages in the item namespace? [22:30:27] Sky2042: let me sees [22:30:29] see [22:31:39] Sky2042: $('#editwatchlist-ns0 .mw-htmlform-flatlist-item').each(function (x, y) { if ($('a:first', y).is('.new')) { y.firstChild.checked = true; } }) [22:32:19] Sky2042: this kind of jquery kungfu :D [22:32:24] lol [22:32:41] Sky2042: so, what happened? [22:32:58] i didn't try the new one [22:32:59] one sec [22:35:07] that seems to sufficiently exclude non ns-0 pages. [22:35:17] haven't checked to see if it hits ns-0 pages [22:35:23] neat little piece though. [22:36:49] * Sky2042 tucks that one away. [22:37:34] Sky2042: So, is it okay? [22:37:54] ebraminio: I think it will do fine. :D [22:38:16] doesn't fix the real problem though. [22:38:21] i will leave a comment on the talk page. [22:38:36] because i think i need to more fully describe why I'm being twitchy. :) [22:38:36] Sky2042: what problem? [22:39:20] let me just post it, okay? :P :P [22:39:58] Sky2042: hmm, you want on deleting an items it will be removed automatically from you watchlist? [22:41:21] yes. but not everyone will want that. some people have their watchlist set so that they want to see items they delete in their watchlist. [22:41:42] the problem is introduced because i have it set that i watch the pages i edit. [22:42:29] Sky2042: A question, Is it possible to restore a deleted item? [22:42:33] yes [22:45:08] Sky2042: hmm, i didn't know. Restoring item needs admin rights it will not occure alot so nobody really wants to see it [22:45:19] IMO [22:45:53] Sky2042: so it can be files as a mw bug IMO [22:46:11] huh? [22:46:18] not sure quite exactly what you're talking about. :) [22:47:11] Sky2042: Me neither :P [22:47:32] :P [22:47:41] again, I'll go leave a comment on the talk page. [22:52:09] Sky2042: Ok :) [22:52:44] Hi Sky2042 ! ;p [22:52:55] it looks like you are everywhere [22:53:21] addshore: not everywhere, but many places! :D [22:54:41] morning MF-W [22:56:53] hi addshore [22:57:22] :)