[01:34:52] <aude>	 legoktm or anyone here, i would like to mark items like http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1785694 as instance of "Wikipedia list" or "Wikipedia list article"
[01:35:22] <aude>	 is that a good approach or anyone have better idea?
[01:36:58] <TCN7JM>	 I wouldn't object.
[01:36:59] <aude>	 then we can do property:P360 (is a list of) = Wikipedia list for stuff in "list of list of lists" :)
[01:37:09] <aude>	 trying to think how these fit
[01:37:31] <TCN7JM>	 It's not "is a list of = Wikipedia list"
[01:37:31] <Sky2042>	 aude: It's kind of self-referential the way you did it, so I've mostly seen people not do so.
[01:38:05] <aude>	 true
[01:38:13] <Sky2042>	 It would probably be correct to do "list of" R&RHF and that's good enough.
[01:38:27] <aude>	 ok
[01:38:32] <Sky2042>	 frankly, such articles won't exist after Wikidata :D
[01:38:36] <Sky2042>	 phase 3
[01:47:52] <Sky2042>	 but maybe I'm wrong.
[01:47:56] * Sky2042  isn't sure.

[01:49:54] <aude>	 i think they will be obsolete
[07:12:33] <rschen7754>	 Karol007: check your invites
[07:16:18] <rschen7754>	 and Hosiryuhosi 
[07:16:40] <rschen7754>	 if any other WD admins need access, let me know
[08:01:34] <happy5214>	 Question. enwiki has KML files for roads, to be used on, say, Google, as an overlay. How would that be represented on Wikidata?
[08:02:11] <legoktm>	 well!
[08:02:25] <happy5214>	 What?
[08:02:37] <legoktm>	 we were just discussing this in -roads
[08:02:42] <legoktm>	 and you're in -roads...
[08:03:13] <happy5214>	 I know. I'm channel-hopping to find answers.
[08:03:51] <legoktm>	 um a property with data type "long text"
[08:03:54] <legoktm>	 or w/e
[08:04:02] <legoktm>	 and just dump the kml into that
[08:05:16] <happy5214>	 Figured. Does such type exist?
[08:05:24] <legoktm>	 not yet!
[08:06:49] <happy5214>	 Then why are we discussing it now?
[08:07:06] <legoktm>	 no clue!
[08:07:39] <happy5214>	 Anyway, I'll be back on the other channel.
[08:28:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Implemented "coordinateinput" widget" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66068
[08:28:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Implemented coordinate expert widgets" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66069
[08:52:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Correctly assigning coordinate variable" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66070
[09:23:43] <Amir1_>	 guys do you know what is wrong in here?
[09:23:43] <Amir1_>	 http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7251&diff=48202709&oldid=48202479
[09:24:24] <aude>	 Amir1_: what is the issue?
[09:24:45] <Amir1_>	 retuns a starnge error in page
[09:24:52] <aude>	 hmmm  not for me
[09:24:54] <Amir1_>	 let me resotor rv of bot
[09:25:08] <Amir1_>	 aude:The value does not comply with the property's definition.
[09:25:09] <Amir1_>	 The value's data value type "ununserializable" does not match the property's data type's data value type "time".
[09:25:26] <Amir1>	 I don't get I think it's in Chinese 
[09:25:34] <aude>	 strange
[09:26:52] <Amir1>	 If you want I can show you what I sent via API
[09:27:32] <aude>	 ok
[09:28:10] <Amir1>	 wait a min
[09:29:58] <putnik>	 Hi all. What happened with contributions page footer?
[09:30:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 putnik: link?
[09:32:02] <putnik>	 I don't see any edits in MW: namespace, but I suppose that I saw it yesterday.
[09:32:21] <putnik>	 Denny_WMDE, e. g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PBot
[09:32:39] <aude>	 Amir1: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase/API#wbcreateclaim has example of an api request for time
[09:32:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Refactored precision handling" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66072
[09:33:39] <Denny_WMDE>	 hmm, pbot, don't know about that, but "weird"?
[09:34:05] <Amir1>	 aude: That is the excactly what I've done
[09:34:14] <aude>	 hmmm
[09:35:41] <aude>	 so it is an error in the js view?
[09:35:57] * aude  sees it in the "snakview" code

[09:36:02] <Amir1>	 no I use bot
[09:36:10] <aude>	 ok
[09:36:13] <putnik>	 aude, hi again. Is that problem with 40K pages already fixed? (I have not seen for a while)
[09:36:17] <Amir1>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7251
[09:36:22] <aude>	 putnik: not yet
[09:36:40] <aude>	 we need to run a script on the database to add them to the missing tracking table
[09:36:51] <aude>	 err, the missing entries need to be populated
[09:37:35] <putnik>	 Ok, no problem. I just wait to run some scripts again =)
[09:37:40] <aude>	 ok
[09:39:32] <Amir1>	 aude: What I send via bot is:{'bot': 1, 'value': '{"time":"+00000001912-23-06T00:00:00Z","timezone":0,"before":0,"after":0,"precision":6,"calendarmodel":"http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12138
[09:39:33] <Amir1>	 "}', 'entity': u'q7251', 'token': u'7f2bfb0d7aa75cff03fa97a65c2d8643+\\', 'snakt
[09:39:35] <Amir1>	 ype': 'value', 'action': 'wbcreateclaim', 'property': 'p569'}
[09:39:40] <aude>	 ok
[09:41:05] <putnik>	 Denny_WMDE, this is not about PBot (it's mine). On each contributions page some time ago there was a block with links to stats etc. And I don't see it now.
[09:42:59] <Denny_WMDE>	 ah ok. don't know what changed there
[09:47:47] <aude>	 Amir1: i see the error
[09:48:03] <Amir1>	 aude: can you tell what it is?
[09:48:08] <aude>	 looking
[09:48:28] <Amir1>	 oh ok
[09:48:30] <Amir1>	 thank you
[09:48:38] <aude>	 i'll try on my test wiki
[09:49:13] <aude>	 well, it says in the error "ununserializable"
[09:49:16] <aude>	 that makes no sense
[09:49:26] <aude>	 "unserializable" would make sense
[09:54:14] <aude>	 Amir1: so i reproduced it
[09:54:36] <aude>	 should help with figuring it out
[09:54:43] <Amir1>	 ok
[09:54:51] <Amir1>	 what do you think?
[09:54:58] <aude>	 need to look into the code
[09:55:14] * aude  hopes it's something trivial

[10:03:42] <Amir1>	 I'll come back
[10:22:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Denny Vrandecic; "The description should be updated, and probably the static dependency on the service, then I would m..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66037
[10:24:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Refactored precision handling" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66072
[10:24:16] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: DanielK_WMDE https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48965
[10:24:28] <aude>	 and amir1 when he comes back
[10:24:41] <aude>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase/API#Data_values <-- very inadequate but began documenting this
[10:39:47] <nikki>	 where's the best place to ask for help fixing links to wikipedia? I think the ru and fa links on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4103699 belong on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7915538 and the az link on http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5103207 but I'm not sure since I don't actually understand any of those languages
[10:42:53] <linneawp>	 google translate can help you a bit
[10:43:11] <reosarevok>	 Does it have azeri?
[10:43:36] <reosarevok>	 oh, it does :)
[10:44:15] <putnik>	 linneawp, there are two near places with same name. I think that google translate can't help =) 
[10:46:01] <linneawp>	 putnik: ah in that case yeah
[10:47:29] <putnik>	 nikki, fa - 7147, ru - 4262, az - 7147.
[10:47:46] <putnik>	 I think only ru link is wrong.
[10:49:59] <putnik>	 Maybe there are 3 places? =)
[10:50:50] <putnik>	 We should ask somebody from Iran =)
[10:51:30] <reosarevok>	 heh
[10:51:36] <reosarevok>	 Fairly sure https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5773800 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6402506 are the same too
[10:51:57] <reosarevok>	 (we're looking at stuff marked as city with no labels)
[10:53:02] <nikki>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vardanjan but that is http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5681657 not any of the three pages I linked already
[10:53:32] <nikki>	 oops, I meant that english wikipedia page links to a third place
[10:53:49] <linneawp>	 putnik: would it be easiest to ask on iran wikipedia page? :P
[10:55:53] <putnik>	 linneawp, arabic script blows my mind =) You may ask if you want.
[10:56:36] <linneawp>	 I don't know anything about that issue, better not get involved :P
[11:10:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Refactored precision handling" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66072
[11:14:05] <ebraminio>	 aude: Hi. I implemented moving qualifiers using wbsetclaim http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js&diff=48177420&oldid=48157676 Just wanted let you know
[11:16:43] <linneawp>	 "Always merge into the item with lowest Qid" what is lowest Qid?
[11:17:45] <linneawp>	 aaah yeah now I understand
[11:34:08] <Amir1>	 aude: any luck with the bug?
[11:34:27] <Amir1>	 Sorry I'm so demanding but I want to start harvesting every possible bit of information as soon as possible
[11:37:54] <reosarevok>	 Amir1: you don't happen to be from Iran, do you?
[11:38:35] <reosarevok>	 (we're looking for help for some Irani cities with no labels :) )
[11:43:28] <aude>	 hi Amir1 
[11:43:40] <aude>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48965
[11:44:03] <aude>	 the problem is that wikidata does not like the calendar model uri that you provided
[11:44:16] <aude>	 and does inadequate checking of that in the api save
[11:46:19] <aude>	 ebraminio: looks good :)
[11:46:37] <aude>	 we realized that the setqualifier and removequalifier modules were never taken out of "experimental"
[11:46:42] <aude>	 e.g. not available yet on wikidata.
[11:46:47] <aude>	 they will be next deployment
[11:46:51] <aude>	 hi Amir1 
[11:48:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Refactored precision handling" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66072
[11:52:08] <ebraminio>	 aude: it would great if was possible to add reference also with wbsetclaim, therefore lower edits needed for users to merge two item
[11:52:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Implemented list rotator to set precision" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66089
[11:54:51] <aude>	 ebraminio: hmm, it does not allow setting references?
[11:57:37] <ebraminio>	 aude: seems because references structure have a generated hash but qualifiers doesn't
[11:57:49] <aude>	 ok
[12:00:07] <aude>	 ebraminio: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48969
[12:00:28] <aude>	 noted as we do some refactoring and improvements in the api
[12:00:48] <ebraminio>	 aude: oh thanks a lot
[12:01:27] <aude>	 thanks for the feedback :)
[12:03:11] <linneawp>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q223#sitelinks and http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4148644#sitelinks there is something wrong.. 
[12:14:44] <Amir1>	 aude: sorry my internet got crazy and I saw your message in log
[12:14:52] <Amir1>	 Thank you
[12:15:33] <aude>	 Amir1: did you see my messages?
[12:15:35] <aude>	 you did
[12:16:02] <aude>	 so, you can get the bot to work correctly
[12:16:06] <Amir1_>	 reosarevok: sorry yes, I'm Iranian 
[12:16:13] <aude>	 at same time, we need to improve validation and documentation for time data values
[12:16:14] <Amir1_>	 aude: yes
[12:16:15] <Amir1_>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7251
[12:16:15] <reosarevok>	 nikki ^
[12:16:20] <reosarevok>	 maybe he can help 
[12:16:40] <aude>	 Amir1_: nice :)
[12:17:11] <Amir1_>	 aude: I gonna start harvesting 
[12:17:23] <aude>	 ok
[12:18:44] <reosarevok>	 Amir1_: for example, we have http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4521363 - no idea if that's on enwiki, nor what English label to give it :/
[12:21:59] <Amir1>	 let me see
[12:23:04] <linneawp>	 what language is pnb?
[12:23:22] <Amir1>	 done
[12:23:41] <linneawp>	 I'm wondering what is the different between http://pnb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%86_%D9%84%DB%8C%D9%86%DA%88 and http://pnb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%86%D9%84%DB%8C%D9%86%DA%88
[12:25:29] <Amir1>	 reosarevok: send me a list and They'll be done
[12:25:31] <reosarevok>	 Amir1: thanks :) There are a few more like that (around 20 or so) - is there a place I can leave the links so that you can maybe add labels when you have the time?
[12:25:34] <reosarevok>	 heh :)
[12:25:37] <reosarevok>	 Ok!
[12:26:37] <Amir1>	 my email is ladsgroup AT gmail
[12:27:05] <reosarevok>	 Awesome, I will
[12:27:06] <reosarevok>	 Thanks :)
[12:27:56] <Amir1>	 linneawp: I think it's Panjabi (a little region in Pakistan) I don't know the language but I can read it a little
[12:28:30] <linneawp>	 Amir1: do you think they are both about greenland as country or is other about the island?
[12:29:05] <Amir1>	 linneawp: yes, It's Panjabi
[12:29:49] <Amir1>	 linneawp: let me check
[12:32:05] <Amir1>	 this is about the island: http://pnb.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%86_%D9%84%DB%8C%D9%86%DA%88
[12:32:44] <linneawp>	 Amir1: thank you a lot :)
[12:34:58] <Amir1>	 :) 
[12:37:13] <reosarevok>	 Amir1: sent that list to your mail - thanks! No hurry, really, do them when you have the time :)
[12:42:33] <Amir1>	 I've received 
[12:44:03] <Amir1>	 OK :)
[12:51:31] <Romaine>	 is here someone who can check if there is any local interwiki left in the template namespace of nl-wiki?
[12:59:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 44576) Trigger redirect based on content negot." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66037
[13:00:31] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Romaine: as far as i know, there is no good way to check something like this at the moment
[13:00:39] <DanielK_WMDE>	 the database does not record where a language link comes from
[13:00:58] <Romaine>	 :S
[13:01:44] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Romaine: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45534
[13:01:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 known issue
[13:02:00] <DanielK_WMDE>	 we are working on it. it's not easy, since it requires some refactoring in mewdiawiki core
[13:02:16] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it was actually a point of discussion at the hackathon in amsterdam last weekend
[13:02:25] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: Denny_WMDE please review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62785/ :)
[13:02:39] <aude>	 i have improved this to address any technical concerns
[13:03:21] <Romaine>	 perhaps then a bot owner can check for local interwiki's?
[13:03:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64486
[13:04:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Werner; "lets have this discussion on" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65810
[13:05:26] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66008
[13:07:19] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66037
[13:10:22] <Denny_WMDE>	 aude: that's master, i cannot merge
[13:10:41] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: you can +1 if the patch looks good
[13:16:54] <andre__>	 is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48919 (Certain edits appearing under caching proxy IP address on Wikidata) anything that the Wikidata team has influence on, or is that WMF operations team territory? I assume the latter?
[13:18:06] <aude>	 andre__: i can't really do anything or understand it 
[13:18:48] <aude>	 i think ariel or other ops people are aware of it
[13:18:55] <aude>	 probably need to poke them
[13:19:30] <andre__>	 will do, thanks
[13:20:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Split EntityPerPage rebuilder code into separate class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63855
[13:24:42] <Amir1>	 I just started harvesting information: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dexbot
[13:24:50] <aude>	 nice
[13:24:57] <Amir1>	 about date of birth and date death
[13:25:21] * aude  nods

[13:28:13] <Amir1>	 aude is something wrong? you're nodding 
[13:28:42] <linneawp>	 isn't it opposite? nod = yes? :P
[13:29:04] <Amir1>	 cultures are different :D
[13:29:17] <linneawp>	 :)
[13:29:41] <linneawp>	 Amir1: what does shaking head mean to you?
[13:29:41] <aude>	 Amir1: no, i agree :)
[13:29:51] <reosarevok>	 Does it check against other wikis too?
[13:29:54] <Amir1>	 do you know showing thumbs in ME countries actually means middle finger in Western Countries?
[13:29:57] <aude>	 sounds good
[13:29:59] * reosarevok  has seen clashes in dates a lot

[13:30:08] <reosarevok>	 (between enwiki and dewiki and stuff like that)
[13:30:18] <Amir1>	 don't thumbs up in ME countries
[13:30:55] <Amir1>	 linneawp: means no, It's not good
[13:30:57] <linneawp>	 Amir1: we use ironic thumbs in traffic in Finland.. :D usually it means good but in traffic it's more like fuck you
[13:30:58] <reosarevok>	 (but in general yay dates :) )
[13:35:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66040
[13:51:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Split EntityPerPage rebuilder code into separate class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63855
[14:04:32] <linneawp>	  
[14:15:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Split EntityPerPage rebuilder code into separate class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63855
[14:16:59] <liangent>	 where's our public test wikibase installation?
[14:17:08] <liangent>	 that ???-repo.wikimedia-de
[14:17:11] <liangent>	 *wikimedia.de
[14:17:18] <aude>	 wikidata-test-repo
[14:17:39] <aude>	 and there is wikidata-dev-repo which is updated every 20 min but more likely to be broken at some point
[14:18:04] <aude>	 wikidata-test-repo was updated last week with the code we branched for deployment
[14:29:58] <liangent>	 aude: it might be better to have them shared the same user database
[14:35:34] <aude>	 liangent: they get entirely reset
[14:35:43] <aude>	 well, not sure about the dev repo
[14:35:44] <Amir1>	 ebraminio: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/30/test-features-in-a-right-to-left-language-environment/
[14:35:57] <aude>	 test repo gets completely reset every two weeks
[14:39:41] <ebraminio>	 Amir1: mobarak bashe :D
[14:40:02] <liangent>	 aude: so I can't keep an account, to avoid ip exposure for example?
[14:40:28] <aude>	 i think ip edits are disabled because of spam
[14:40:37] <aude>	 we have test accounts for the wikis
[14:41:59] <liangent>	 aude: http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Special:RecentChanges is full of ip edits
[14:42:12] <liangent>	 anyway what are those test accounts
[14:43:04] <aude>	 oh, waht?
[14:43:29] <liangent>	 aude: got them in privmsg
[14:43:45] <aude>	 we had problems with the puppet scripts to reset things last time
[14:43:52] <aude>	 so maybe ip edits got allowed 
[14:44:20] <aude>	 i don't see spam, so okay but it might get turned off again either when we fix puppet scripts or there is a spam problem
[15:00:19] <Reedy>	 omg a sladen
[15:00:21] <Reedy>	 fail
[15:00:24] <Reedy>	 omg a slaporte
[15:09:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "needs tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63855
[15:12:14] <aude>	 jeremyb: poke
[15:38:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Factor EntityDataRequestHandler out of special page" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66122
[15:45:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Factor EntityDataRequestHandler out of special page" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66122
[15:48:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "For whatever reason, EntityDataRequestHandlerTest isn't picked up and run. Cookies for anyone who fi..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66122
[15:53:11] <GerardM>	 question on the new dates ...
[15:53:33] <GerardM>	 is it possible to show the dates in other formats ?
[15:55:09] <hoo>	 aude: Should I know really write a mock CentralAuthUser object and include it into the client tests? :P
[15:56:46] <aude>	 hoo: i don't know
[15:57:06] <aude>	 ask jeroen
[15:57:11] <hoo>	 Sounds like quite some work just for the sake of having a test
[15:57:19] <Denny_WMDE1>	 GerardM: not implemented yet
[15:57:31] <aude>	 hoo:  realize that
[15:57:31] <Denny_WMDE1>	 one could write a javascript thingy to do that
[15:58:38] <hoo>	 aude: Skipped it for now...
[15:58:47] <aude>	 ok
[16:03:52] <GerardM>	 Denny_WMDE1: :) and such a script could be adopted ?
[16:04:13] <legoktm>	                                     "time": "+00000001934-01-14T00:00:00Z",
[16:04:13] <legoktm>	                                     "timezone": 0,
[16:04:13] <legoktm>	                                     "before": 0,
[16:04:13] <legoktm>	                                     "after": 0,
[16:04:14] <legoktm>	                                     "precision": 11,
[16:04:15] <legoktm>	                                     "calendarmodel": "http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q1985727"
[16:04:21] <legoktm>	 what does before, after, and precision mean?
[16:05:58] <legoktm>	 Amir1: did you see my message?
[16:06:02] <Amir1>	 legoktm: if you set "precision" as 11 that returns you day month and year but if set "precision" 6 you'll have millennium 
[16:06:05] <Amir1>	 set and test
[16:06:07] <Amir1>	 no
[16:06:16] <legoktm>	 [09:04:21 AM] <legoktm>	 what does before, after, and precision mean?
[16:06:25] <Amir1>	 I'm constantly disconnecting and connecting 
[16:06:37] <Amir1>	 sorry
[16:07:21] <legoktm>	 no worries
[16:07:26] <Amir1>	 if you set "precision" more than 11 for example 13 you can you hour and minutes 
[16:07:54] <Amir1>	 about before and after I don't know what they mean too
[16:08:01] <legoktm>	 o.O
[16:08:28] <Amir1>	 i think these are not very important for now
[16:09:02] <Amir1>	 but we will work on it
[16:09:02] <Amir1>	 I think Denny_WMDE1 knows
[16:10:09] <legoktm>	 im trying to see if we can take everything from a datetime object
[16:11:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "proper usage of global "time" in timeexperts.TimeInput.tests.js" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65837
[16:11:46] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66031
[16:11:59] <Amir1>	 I think some of these features are not important. for example timezone
[16:12:19] <Amir1>	 we can use it very seldom
[16:12:20] <legoktm>	 well datetime can handle multiple timezones
[16:13:37] <Amir1>	 I don't say It's completely useless
[16:14:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65837
[16:14:39] <Amir1>	 but main application of date data type is for born, death and release 
[16:15:01] <Amir1>	 and none of them won't use this
[16:15:10] <Amir1>	 I think we should add tz and after and before to options of our bots
[16:15:23] <Amir1>	 but for know. let them run bots
[16:15:27] <Amir1>	 maybe I'm wrong
[16:24:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65836
[16:36:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removed unnecessary usage of QUnit.newMwEnvironment in QUnit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66024
[16:37:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "[coordinate.js] Implemented "coordinateinput" widget" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66068
[16:38:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66068
[16:38:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66024
[16:38:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "[coordinate.js] Implemented coordinate expert widgets" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66069
[16:43:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65677
[16:46:06] <Denny_WMDE1>	 GerardM: sorry have been in a telco
[16:47:14] <Denny_WMDE1>	 GerardM: yes, such a script could potentially be adopted by the community. they seem to be very good at adopting scripts for wikidata. i love them for that.
[16:47:24] <Denny_WMDE1>	 legoktm: they are not used yet
[16:47:33] <legoktm>	 ok
[16:47:37] <Denny_WMDE1>	 so precision indeed defines to what you are precise at
[16:47:50] <Denny_WMDE1>	 like 6 (i think?) means, by the month etc.
[16:47:54] <GerardM>	 Denny how about nanopublications ?
[16:48:15] <Denny_WMDE1>	 and before and after actually means "how many X before or after is this date unsure about"
[16:48:21] <Denny_WMDE1>	 where X is defined by the precision
[16:49:10] <legoktm>	 Denny_WMDE1: are the precision values documented somewhere
[16:49:27] <Denny_WMDE1>	 meaning precision = month, before = 3, after = 2, date = july will be (july-3=) april to (july+2=) september
[16:49:35] <Denny_WMDE1>	 yes they are, mom
[16:50:04] <Denny_WMDE1>	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times here
[16:50:38] <Denny_WMDE1>	 i hope that helps
[16:50:45] <Denny_WMDE1>	 GerardM: what do you mean with nanopublications?
[16:53:48] <legoktm>	 Denny_WMDE1: wonderful, thanks :)
[16:53:57] <Denny_WMDE1>	 yw
[16:54:02] <Denny_WMDE1>	 liangent: you here?
[16:54:26] <Denny_WMDE1>	 i just wanted to say i will be travleing the next two or three weeks, so my availability in IRC will be sketchy, but i should be available on email
[16:54:34] <Denny_WMDE1>	 keep lydia in CC
[16:57:03] <GerardM>	 PS I am so happy with dates being available :)
[17:00:23] <liangent>	 Denny_WMDE1: here but going off soon
[17:02:18] <Denny_WMDE1>	 just wanted to say about traveling, see my previous lines
[17:02:22] <Denny_WMDE1>	 so that you are not surprised
[17:02:40] <Denny_WMDE1>	 you can always bug DanielK_WMDE about stuff, if you really don't hear from me, but i should be responsive to email :)
[17:03:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66069
[17:03:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "[coordinate.js] Correctly assigning coordinate variable" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66070
[17:03:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66070
[17:04:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "[coordinate.js] Refactored precision handling" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66072
[17:04:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Werner; "[coordinate.js] Implemented list rotator to set precision" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66089
[17:08:35] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66072
[17:16:10] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Daniel Werner; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66089
[17:25:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make EntityIdParser be case insensitive." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66129
[17:38:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Split EntityPerPage rebuilder code into separate class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63855
[18:25:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66129
[18:27:52] <sladen>	 Reedy: ?
[18:39:04] <legoktm>	 omg Pyfisch you are awesome
[18:44:53] <legoktm>	 Pyfisch: though the page should probably be named JSON instead of python?
[18:47:36] <lazowik>	 hey people
[18:48:06] <lazowik>	 seems you've completely forgotten about https
[18:48:07] <lazowik>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65443/
[18:48:33] <reosarevok>	 heh, half of the Macedonia municipalities are "Municipality of X", half are "X Municipality" 
[18:48:35] <reosarevok>	 Consistency! :)
[20:03:43] <linneawp>	 oh no.. those quit message viruses are evolving
[20:04:07] <linneawp>	 first it was just one sentence, now they are getting bigger
[20:16:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Split EntityPerPage rebuilder code into separate class" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/63855
[20:28:11] <jeremyb>	 aude: yes?
[20:29:55] <aude>	 jeremyb: whenever you have spare time, we'd like a second opinion or advice for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65463/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65443/
[20:30:35] <aude>	 apache redirects are not our expertise :/
[20:31:57] <jeremyb>	 aude: i think i made my mark on 65463?
[20:32:40] <jeremyb>	 aude: i may be able to look at the other one in an hour or two. you could send me a review req :)
[20:32:58] <aude>	 ok
[20:49:06] <GerardM>	 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/05/wmhack-produce-list-that-shares.html
[21:17:24] <Vogone>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Including_the_project_Commons_in_Wikidata
[21:17:42] <Vogone>	 weißt du dazu etwas?