[01:09:56] Can some one merge/fix http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5833850#sitelinks with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Sanchez-Guijo ? [01:10:18] * TCN7JM looks. [01:12:14] purplepopple: Done [01:23:09] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12260240#sitelinks also needs merging with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Conde_(athlete) [01:23:31] You should link the item I need to merge the sitelinks into. [01:23:39] Easier than searching for it. [01:24:16] Never mind. [01:24:17] Found it. [01:24:23] Confused for a second, though. [01:24:52] Done, Laura. [01:26:06] Thanks [01:26:21] Not a problem. [01:26:39] Trying not to create problems with things but occassional goofiness. :) [03:25:46] Hello. How to use SUL name with wikidata? [03:27:08] Yes [03:27:55] Testone: you should be able to do so like on any Wikimedia website [03:29:38] thank you [07:28:18] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Properly set globeCoordinate.GlobeCoordinate.prototype.constructor" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66276 [07:29:27] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66276 [08:06:10] New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Removed GlobeCoordinate's "isValid" function" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66253 [08:06:10] New patchset: Henning Snater; "[coordinate.js] Optimized precision handling" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66244 [08:28:16] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65542 [08:46:52] hey, could somebody maybe up the priority on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45244 ? it's rather annoying, and has been just sitting there for 3 months [08:47:34] Pink|away: hmmm, okay [08:47:41] i can look at it [08:47:59] or poke someone [08:48:39] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 43870) new Special:SetSiteLink" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [08:48:56] New review: Aude; "rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [09:21:04] thanks aude and lydia :) [09:21:21] np [09:50:36] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Moving entity operations into separate ChangeOps" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66392 [09:54:31] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Moving entity operations into separate ChangeOps" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66392 [09:55:40] DanielK_WMDE_: probably you manage to have a look at the editEntity refactoring I did in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/66392/ [09:56:11] it's a first version and just affects label and description, but I want to know if it is the right way to go before I do more [09:56:40] why doesn't #wikidata forward here? [09:57:04] (or, for that matter, why isn't this channel located there?) [09:59:09] PinkAmpersand: I think all wikimedia projects are named as this, it is maybe some freenode thing. easier to them to admin if they are named same way [09:59:13] here the channel is in scope of wikimedia [09:59:17] e.g. we are ops [09:59:22] someone else claimed #wikidata first [09:59:24] not #wikipedia :P [10:00:06] I got forwarded from #wikidata [10:00:13] really? [10:00:15] ah,ok [10:00:21] I'm fairly sure [10:00:24] i get a "You need an invitation to join #wikidata" [10:00:34] looks like it got locked [10:01:28] i'll ask one of the group contacts about it next time i see them around, if no one minds. [10:58:18] aude: I'm currently testing bene's change. and it seems now only setting sitelinks works. [10:58:34] hmmm descriptions don't work? [10:58:43] e.g. setting a label, description, alias with the special pages does not work anymore [10:58:52] ok, can take a look [10:59:01] more rebasing needed [10:59:02] confirm it first [10:59:06] ok [11:03:08] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Selenium tests for setSitelink special page" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66399 [11:04:21] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Selenium tests for setSitelink special page" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66399 [11:16:02] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Removed time.Time's isValid() function" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66400 [11:27:05] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66392 [11:28:28] what is this status now? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40810 is it being worked on? [11:29:31] linneawp: i think not - care to send a ping to the person who wanted to work on it in the bug report? [11:29:42] to see if he/she is still working on it [11:29:56] Lydia_WMDE: ok thanks :) [11:34:53] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Add EntityRevision functionality" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66280 [12:45:50] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/06/defending-wiki-in-wikidata.html [12:45:55] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "This will cause setLabel, setDescription & setAliases to stop working." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45574 [13:24:33] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Moving entity operations into separate ChangeOps" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66392 [13:34:29] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "(bug 49014) Proper formatting of values in EntityView" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66269 [13:34:55] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Inject value formatters into EntityView instead of using global in EntityView" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66270 [13:37:22] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66392 [13:39:32] New patchset: Daniel Werner; "Added some TODOs and cleanup to globeCoordinate.parser" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66288 [13:46:41] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Properly implemented JS GlobeCoordinateValue::toJSON and newFromJSON" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66289 [13:46:50] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Coordinate values of backend and frontend can now exchange precision" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66299 [13:48:48] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Implemented EntityContent::getParserOutput" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66271 [13:49:07] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "EntityView::getHtmlForClaims separation into getHtmlForClaim" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66274 [14:23:19] Tobi_WMDE: ping [14:23:26] Beachvolley happening or not? [14:23:30] Not raining... [14:23:52] * JeroenDeDauw needs some fresh air after phpconference [14:23:58] JeroenDeDauw: you would have time? [14:24:05] from 18-20? [14:24:18] 19-21 would be more cool [14:24:33] that's too late for me [14:26:28] Tobi_WMDE: sure, 18-20 works [14:27:31] JeroenDeDauw: ... convincing Danwe_WMDE... [14:27:36] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Implemented time.js parser constructor" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66546 [14:32:45] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Implemented time.js parser constructor" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66546 [14:34:20] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45244) show correct diff revision id in diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [14:35:38] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45244) show correct diff revision id in diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [14:39:10] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45244) show correct diff revision id in diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [14:42:03] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Add .jshintrc for Wikibase and make it pass" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64472 [14:42:21] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45244) show correct diff revision id in diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [14:43:19] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45244) show correct diff revision id in diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [14:43:48] Tobi_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/66547/ (i'm done) [14:44:25] or DanielK_WMDE_ ^ [14:57:58] hello all! [14:58:36] aude: I'm going through the checklist for the bonding period [14:59:01] can we have a discussion on the solution approach sometime? [15:12:32] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Make EntityIdParser be case insensitive." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66129 [15:22:40] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Add .jshintrc for Wikibase and make it pass" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64472 [15:22:59] [15:23:00] the lonk is broken isnt it? [15:23:02] *link [15:25:06] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Add .jshintrc for Wikibase and make it pass" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64472 [15:33:29] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Add .jshintrc for Wikibase and make it pass" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64472 [16:13:48] hey, can someone find out when we pass 90M edits? [16:13:51] *passed [16:13:56] *50M [16:14:01] * PinkAmpersand can't type [16:26:33] -stats [16:26:34] Estadísticas de wikidatawiki: 12573739 páginas, 12110598 páginas de contenido, 50093386 ediciones, 0 archivos, 236074 usuarios, 9266 usuarios activos, 83 administradores, 4 trabajos en cola - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Statistics [16:28:16] yeah, i mean like, which edit it was [16:28:25] that was the 50,000,000th [16:28:33] Well, I guess we could see the diff [16:30:03] www.wikidata.org/?diff=50000000 ... seems it was deleted or something [16:31:26] Hm [16:31:49] http://www.wikidata.org/?oldid=50000000 [16:32:00] jem-, JohnLewis, Pink: yep, that's what you get when it's deleted [16:32:17] this is weird [16:32:26] we're still on diff # 494,xxx,xxx [16:32:37] * 4,94x,xxx,xxx [16:32:42] uerfsivuhjegashdzv [16:32:46] you know what i mean [16:32:46] wait, we don't have 4 billion edits [16:32:56] 49 million instead of 50 [16:33:00] oh [16:33:25] 49 million is WD:RFD :P [16:33:38] that's weird... how could Statistics be overshooting? [16:33:48] JohnLewis: our most edited page :) [16:34:22] PinkAmpersand: Indeed :D [16:36:02] JohnLewis, Pink: on WMF wikis, edit counters are often known to overshoot [16:36:30] for example, on enwiki, an admin had to find a steward for deleting a page w/ only ~3800 revisions [16:36:35] b/c the software was saying >5000 [16:40:40] huh [16:41:17] I think it has something to do w/ caching. [16:41:39] for pages w/ large histories, WMF wikis may experience an uncertainty of +/- 1000 edits [16:41:50] for the purposes of measuring the # of (undeleted) edtis. [16:57:18] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45244) show correct diff revision id in diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [16:58:46] !huggle aude [16:58:46] * Helpmebot huggles aude [16:58:54] :) [16:59:21] it's a strange bug [16:59:34] aude: any updates on the revisiondelete bug? [16:59:41] bug number? [16:59:49] * Jasper_Deng doesn't remember a particular bug # [16:59:52] hmmm [16:59:53] * aude looks [17:00:09] !part [17:00:45] aude: the bug is that if you view a diff for a revdeleted revision on an item, it shows a database error saying it wasn't found [17:01:06] rather than the appropriate message saying that the revision is hidden (and for admins, also saying that they can view it with unhide=1) [17:01:20] hmmmm [17:01:36] someone else on this channel might know of the bug # [17:02:44] i can't find a bug but can try to reproduce on my test wiki [17:06:22] hi pragunbhutani [17:06:31] aude: hello :) [17:06:52] you are done with exams? [17:07:31] Yes, and everything else with college as well [17:07:37] I moved back home a couple of days ago [17:08:03] aude: I've started checking off things on the 17th june list now [17:08:04] btw, has anyone filed a bug for the fact that you get a Wikimedia Error if you try to use rollback in a way that would restored an in-use sitelink? [17:08:14] it didn't use to be like that. you used to get a specific error message [17:08:56] aude: I'm a little unsure about the feed url [17:09:14] should I set up a separate blog to record my gsoc progress and set up a feed on that? [17:09:21] PinkAmpersand: hmmm [17:10:22] pragunbhutani: can track progress somewhere separate [17:10:29] or setup a tag [17:10:37] and it be not separate [17:10:49] aude: okay [17:11:04] I'm going to play around with some static site generator and my blog tomorrow [17:11:22] I'll see if I can set up a tag or some sort of a sub-blog [17:11:44] ok [17:12:13] other than that, we have to discuss my solution approach and workflow once [17:12:18] and I should be ready to go :) [17:12:20] yes [17:12:34] i think you are already familiar with the code base now [17:13:25] next would be the mockups + more specific "design" (from code perspective) for implementing it [17:15:05] yep [17:15:38] so, I think I'll take a day to sort out the minors [17:15:42] ok [17:15:50] and once they're out of the way, we can talk about the project and I can begin coding [17:15:54] ok [17:16:08] i think lydia wants to do a skype or google hangout sometime [17:16:21] I'm going to travel out on the 6th, so I definitely inter to get the minors sorted out before that and hopefully have a discussion with you as wel [17:16:30] and yes, I've already replied to Lydia's mail [17:16:31] ok [17:16:40] we're waiting on a reply from a couple of others :) [17:17:08] * aude is away later part of next week [17:17:27] do you know the dates? [17:17:43] yes, i am away next thursday - saturday [17:18:03] try to make sure you know what to work on before that [17:18:25] 6-8th or 13-15th? [17:18:31] 13-15 [17:18:39] okay, yes definitely [17:18:54] it's plenty of time before that [17:18:59] I think I'll definitely be done with the first stage and be ready to work before that [17:18:59] yes [17:19:02] ok [17:20:12] I'll try and have a discussion with Jon Robson as well [17:20:18] ok [17:20:20] haven't really talked to him about the project yet [17:20:39] his feedback is definitely helpful [17:20:51] yep [17:20:59] i see mobile frontend does more stuff with skins [17:21:06] and I think he might have some opinions about how it should look on mobile [17:21:15] wikibase implements "views", although much fo the code is ugly [17:21:27] and not to be reproduced, but rather think of a better way [17:21:43] okay [17:21:52] or at least not a good example in the details of how entity view is done :) [17:22:07] the idea of a mobile view or something might be okay, if done well [17:22:34] I'm going to explore the code once again [17:22:37] ok [17:22:48] we might have to talk about that when we're discussing how to implement everything in PHP [17:22:57] that also gives us a chance to do things anew [17:23:01] yes [17:25:50] aude: how often does mediawiki have hackathons? [17:28:31] pragunbhutani: depends [17:28:48] the big ones are 1) in the spring, usually in europe [17:29:01] 2) at wikimania (our annual conference), which is in hong kong this time [17:29:08] then tehre are local/regional events [17:29:08] there [17:29:15] including in india [17:29:22] I've already signed up on the Wikimedia India list [17:29:26] good [17:29:35] any way I can stay updated on the bigger events? [17:30:01] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events [17:30:06] not sure how up-to-date that is [17:31:42] I'll check [17:32:34] https://twitter.com/mediawiki maybe [17:32:47] and http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/DevCamp [17:33:05] and the mailing lists probably [18:06:32] Hi, I wonder if there is any way to use Wikidata in combination with Lua tables. [18:06:42] Please look at Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Sandbox/QuimGil/FlagTranslations [18:06:54] Instead of having each project translating manually that table... [18:07:04] ... we could have such correlations in Wikidata, with all the translations [18:07:16] For instance: [18:07:33] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Andorra.svg is the flag for en.Andorra, ca.Andorra, es.Andorra, fa.آندورا ... [18:08:02] and in fact all that data of translations is already in Wikidata: thanks to the language links we know the correspondences of en.Andorra in all the other languages that have an article about Andorra [18:08:15] Therefore, by linking that image to en.Andorra, you could et somehow all the rest of connections [18:08:47] I wonder... would there be a way to get those translations imported from Wikidata somehow? [18:10:30] Lydia_WMDE, I tried to find the right wiki page to ask this questions but had a hard time... [18:11:50] qgil: i am not sure tbh - [[Wikidata:Lua]] might be a place to ask? [18:11:51] [1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lua [18:12:33] thanks Lydia_WMDE ! I will start at looking that page, that I didn't knoiw it existed. [18:12:46] ok - also maybe here someone else can help [18:12:59] it's fine, I'm not in a rush [18:13:02] ok [18:50:16] Lydia_WMDE, donde, and thank you: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help_talk:Lua#How_to_use_Wikidata_country_data_in_a_Wikipedia_Lua_template.3F [18:51:14] Lydia_WMDE: are you online? [18:51:24] Sven_Manguard: jep [18:51:26] wasup? [19:38:04] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [19:47:54] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [19:49:29] DanielK_WMDE_: what am i doing wrong about the diff=next etc? [19:50:06] * aude wants to ensure we get it *right* this time :) [21:08:11] Lydia_WMDE: there? [21:08:42] legoktm, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot#MBAreaBot_2 ? :p [21:09:00] * reosarevok makes a puppy face [21:10:15] {{done}} [21:10:17] How efficient, legoktm! [21:10:31] * Jasper_Deng wonders what ASimovBot is doing in here anyways. [21:10:50] that^^ ! [21:11:13] :) [21:14:58] Jasper_Deng: watch [21:15:03] [[Kittens]] [21:15:04] [2] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Kittens [21:15:40] Considering the structure of Wikidata pages, AsimovBot isn't terribly useful except for things like [[Wikidata:AN]] [21:15:41] [3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:AN [21:15:56] Is it possible to link to different wikis using the code? [21:16:06] [[w:No]] [21:16:07] [4] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/No [21:16:13] erp [21:16:16] that should have worked [21:16:19] [[en:Yes]] [21:16:22] [5] 10https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes [21:16:25] :D [21:16:26] there we go [21:16:37] [[com:COM:FOP]] [21:16:38] [6] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/com:COM:FOP [21:16:43] Nice. [21:16:45] commons* [21:16:48] oh [21:16:59] [[commons:COM:FOP]] [21:16:59] [7] 10https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:FOP [21:17:04] sweet! [21:17:40] From that page "Public interiors are OK, but schools, opera buildings, entrance halls of businesses, and museums are not public places for the purpose of Dutch law, while railway stations are." [21:17:44] lolwut? [21:18:39] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [21:21:03] DanielK_WMDE_: Could you add some hints on how to structure the repo part of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648 and how to implement the unit tests? :P [21:34:53] New review: Aude; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547 [21:48:55] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 45244) show correct diff revision id in diff view" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66547