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[01:36:25] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues/compare/aa2ab13a5229...416942b852b9 [01:36:25] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues/builds/8400359 [07:56:21] New review: Hoo man; "Looks like I forgot to register the new repo hook or forgot to git add the file. Going to fix that l..." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70115 [08:09:04] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Using delimiter string length splitting GeoCoordinate string" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70382 [08:27:57] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70382 [08:29:33] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues#124 (master - 99ddecc : Henning Snater): The build was fixed. [08:29:33] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues/compare/416942b852b9...99ddecce6dd1 [08:29:33] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-DataValues/builds/8416502 [08:35:03] New patchset: Henning Snater; "GeoCoordinateParser: Improved direction detection" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70386 [09:02:22] Tobi_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/69846/ [09:17:47] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Can we not call this "Serializer"? It isn't. How about "Converter"? That is very generic, but thinki..." [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70331 [09:24:13] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Hm... IIRC, TObias suggested to pass the top level serializer as a parameter to the serialize method..." [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70331 [09:24:34] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Use quick hasEntity in EntityExistsValidator" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69846 [09:25:00] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "PS 2: rebased and resolved conflict." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69846 [09:26:06] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Since we now have an alternative approach (see WikibaseDataValueBuilders), i think deprecating this ..." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65677 [09:26:24] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65677 [09:30:45] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69846 [09:31:30] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Improved rounding of globe coordinates" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69644 [09:38:26] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69644 [09:39:05] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Fixed globeCoordinate's decimalText()" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69645 [09:49:08] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Still some issues with exceptions and general interface design." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648 [09:49:20] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Fixed globeCoordinate's decimalText()" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69645 [09:50:24] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69645 [09:52:13] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Making calendar names translatable" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69849 [10:01:02] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Making calendar names translatable" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69849 [10:04:30] hey [10:04:38] I am migrating the Wikibase jobs on Jenkins [10:04:56] to have them run in a slightly different environment, they will run on a Jenkins slave instead of on the master [10:06:34] hashar: let's hope that goes well :) [10:06:48] * hashar crosses fingers [10:07:03] hashar: did you see the changes i submitted yesterday, that would allow us to run repo and client tests at once? [10:07:06] I should probably have chosen another extension but it got high traffic right now which is nice [10:07:15] no I haven't looked at it yet [10:07:22] we are still arguing over details, but i expect this to go in over the next couple of days [10:07:32] have a look, feedback would be appreciated [10:08:11] I am fighting with jenkins right now :( [10:09:21] * DanielK_WMDE imagines hashar as some kind of St George [10:10:01] honeslty [10:10:08] I am in the mood of rewriting jenkins [10:16:32] New patchset: Henning Snater; "TimeInput expert: Always update preview when calling draw()" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70394 [10:21:03] New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70395 [10:21:42] and it is broken grmblblbl [10:26:09] New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70395 [10:29:53] New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70395 [10:31:57] and fixed [10:32:04] Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70395 [10:38:05] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Make Selenium tests aware of timeout when parsing time inputs" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70396 [10:38:13] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70394 [10:39:03] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Enabling to specify time values in time output formats" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69866 [10:40:35] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70396 [11:30:44] hashar: what's with the qunit failures? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/70196/ [11:33:13] ahhh [11:35:21] New patchset: Hoo man; "Drastically reduce the number of RL modules in clients" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70115 [11:35:41] New review: Hoo man; "Fixed repo Qunit tests" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70115 [11:35:52] DanielK_WMDE: no idea sorry :( [11:36:02] I would just retrigger it [11:36:56] 08:55:47 exception 'DBConnectionError' with message 'DB connection error: Cannot return last error, no db connection' in /srv/ssd/jenkins/workspace/mediawiki-core-qunit/includes/db/Database.php:828 [11:36:57] :( [11:37:06] hashar: In which context are those tests executed? [11:37:13] DanielK_WMDE: the console shows up some stack traces at https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mediawiki-core-qunit/5252/console [11:37:15] They need a working Wikibase repo set up [11:38:05] ? [11:38:17] daniel failing change is against core :) [11:38:35] hashar: Yeah, just saw that... I already wondered since then we got these things [11:38:50] that is just that patch failing [12:17:04] New patchset: Henning Snater; "Making calendar names translatable" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69849 [12:18:05] Denny_WMDE1, Lydia_WMDE: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikidata_for_media_info [12:45:00] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Making calendar names translatable" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69849 [12:49:52] hi [12:52:43] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Making calendar names translatable" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69849 [12:53:38] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69849 [12:55:26] hi [12:55:56] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "Enabling to specify time values in time output formats" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69866 [12:56:10] anyone has made something to import the releases/productions date of movies? [12:57:13] hashar: are the qunit tests using a read only database? the purpose of this change is to make sqlite fail if it's using a read only file [12:57:18] maybe that wasn't a good idea after all :) [13:00:28] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69866 [13:02:05] DanielK_WMDE: not sure [14:17:38] How can I propose new data sources for wikidata? [14:18:26] http://wegreen.de [14:20:53] What use does that have? [14:21:14] The data are under Creative Commons Namensnennung 3.0 Deutschland Lizenz [14:21:31] It's an evaluation of company ethics. [14:21:41] With many different data sources merged together. [14:21:46] Looks primarily like a shopping site [14:22:02] The merging process is not optimally transparent, that seems to be the only problem. [14:22:22] It's a search engine for products. It's a company and thus has to make some money. [14:23:00] But the data sources are fairly good as far as I know. [14:23:40] The will also be connecting to www.csrhub.com. [14:25:03] New patchset: Henning Snater; "valueview: Prevent delay when using front-end parser" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70424 [14:26:38] Connecting to wegreen is possible, other rating information are usually copyrighted. That's why it's such a good idea. [14:28:27] http://marktcheck.greenpeace.at/ also have a good database. [14:30:30] The Marktcheck database, however, contains products and certifications, which are not as relevant for Wikipedia. [14:31:29] You probably don't want any data on individual products (except for computer games, which seem to receive individual entries quite often). [14:31:31] I'm not quite sure if/how we're using 3rd party sources atm [14:32:34] anybody work with steets items? [14:33:07] You should be using this one: http://www.programmableweb.com/api/offenedaten [14:35:37] or this one: http://www.programmableweb.com/api/deutschland [14:36:39] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70424 [14:38:45] New patchset: Tobias Gritschacher; "valueview: Prevent delay when using front-end parser" [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (mw1.22-wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70426 [14:39:00] Change merged: Tobias Gritschacher; [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (mw1.22-wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70426 [15:03:46] New patchset: Hoo man; "Implement Client to Repo move change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648 [15:06:21] New review: Hoo man; "Addressed Daniel's comments... thanks for the ongoing CR" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648 [15:32:27] Ice age [15:32:27] [edit] [15:32:27] ice age is a age of big ice and snqg [15:34:05] New patchset: Hoo man; "Implement Client to Repo move change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648 [15:35:31] New patchset: Hoo man; "Implement Client to Repo move change propagation" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65648 [15:42:22] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Handle bad values using BadValue objects." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70433 [15:42:58] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Handle bad values using BadValue objects." [mediawiki/extensions/DataValues] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70433 [15:59:20] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P131 can have 2+ values? [16:00:54] legoktm, ^ [16:02:09] Incabh, ^ [16:07:06] and how to add 2+ values? [16:07:06] just surround them by {} ? [16:14:54] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Considering doing this on the DataValue level instead, see I9920286723" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseDataModel] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68952 [16:16:28] !admin [16:19:34] Base-w: you can add multiple statements for any property [16:19:45] there's an "add" link to do that... [16:20:34] DanielK_WMDE_: i mean is it allowed for this property. and how to add 2+ via api :) [16:20:52] i mean is it allowed for this property. -< here should be "?" [16:23:19] Base-w: don't know about "allowed", but if you want to add two statements by bot, just add two staements. [16:23:56] i don't think that can currently be done with a single request, though [16:24:29] Base-w: always keep in mind that you are adding two *statements* not a single statement with two values. [16:28:33] hm [16:28:43] realy? [16:29:01] i thought it should be one with two values [16:29:29] can i play with it on test.wikidata? [16:30:48] ah there seems to be no props [16:31:10] is there some sandbox item? [17:18:59] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Handle BadValue snaks gracefully." [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseDataModel] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70443 [17:21:01] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Handle BadValue snaks gracefully." [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseDataModel] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70443 [17:21:20] New review: Hoo man; "Also needs to be rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68043 [17:22:17] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Handle BadValue snaks gracefully." [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseDataModel] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70443 [17:53:26] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Make SnakValidator fail on bad values." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69659 [18:07:58] legoktm, thanks for approve :) [18:14:57] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Handle BadValue objects gracefully." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/68002 [18:21:26] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Make SnakValidator fail on bad values." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69659 [18:22:06] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "rebased" [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69659 [18:28:08] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 49264) Make SnakValidator fail on bad values." [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/69659 [19:03:06] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This is indeed not exactly what tobias described. I deliberately diverged from his suggestion here." [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70331 [20:31:43] ebraminio: chera toye channel farsi nisty? [22:56:41] I need third party opinion in here if someone is interested: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Dexbot#sexual_orientation [22:58:19] I think it's some kind of homophobia, being marked as gay (even wrongly) isn't really different as marked as wrong sex, or marked as left-handed (even incorrectly) [22:58:43] but maybe I'm wrong [23:05:46] Amir1: People are very sensitive to that (at least) in America. There might be other countries. Especially also, it is something about a person, and being wrong about a person can be very harmful to them, regardless of sex or left-handedness. [23:12:09] Sky2042: you're right but removing statement of sexual orietion from items of Adam Lambert, Chris Colfer, ellen DeGeneres and so many others, with doesn't sound insane? [23:12:23] *with bot [23:12:54] we're having problems with the sourcing, even though those people are clearly of a particular sexual nature [23:15:40] that's a good point so i suggested to make a list and work on the list by changing source from English wp to something more reliable instead of removing all of it and adding it one by one even obvious ones [23:18:11] * Sky2042 hellos Emw. [23:18:21] Amir1: That's a good idea, I agree. [23:18:49] * Amir1 nodes [23:20:42] * Amir1 nods [23:23:01] * Sky2042 laughs at Amir1. [23:34:28] :) [23:37:06] is there any oversight (if there are oversight) otherwise an admin would be enough. privacy issues [23:37:20] Amir1: you can ask in -stewards [23:38:24] it's not a very big deal to bringing stewards [23:38:45] stewards handle OS on all wikis without OS [23:40:10] I know that [23:40:49] but i think an admin would be enough, anyway I request in stewards channel [23:44:23] Thank god we have no stewards online now :| [23:44:44] we should double number of stewards [23:46:37] if it's urgent i can revdel [23:47:11] rschen7754: that's what i'm thinking [23:47:16] PM [23:52:11] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added first serialization code" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70331