[00:31:37] <JohnLewis>	 Finally. I can access Wikidata again ( aude )
[00:39:15] <aude>	 \o/
[00:39:29] <aude>	 JohnLewis: wonder what the problem was
[00:39:30] <aude>	 ?
[00:40:05] <JohnLewis>	 I don't know.
[00:40:14] <JohnLewis>	 But I can finally get back to those stats for Denny.
[01:06:27] <Reedy>	 wikidatawiki is 106.6GB
[01:09:44] <Reedy>	 http://p.defau.lt/?bU7ICNSIifsHnWAfSo_3dg
[07:20:19] <DangSunM>	  is [[user:Ricordisamoa]] there?
[07:20:19] <AsimovBot>	 [9] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/user:Ricordisamoa
[07:20:21] <legoktm>	 DangSunM: he usually doesnt come on IRC
[07:28:52] <DangSunM>	 sorry
[07:29:53] <DangSunM>	 that is not itwiki this link will be correct. [http://ilo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Dagiti_kategoria_ti_Wikipedia_a_naalumaymay_a_baw-ing]
[09:28:32] <gerardm>	 how can I enter a range of years for a date of death ?
[09:33:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 52325) validators for url schemes. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77183 
[09:33:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 GerardM: you can't enter a range, but you can specify the precision of the dsate you give.
[09:34:03] <Denny_WMDE>	 GerardM: you can't yet
[09:34:27] <Denny_WMDE>	 yes, so you can give the century, the decade, etc. ranges like that are on the roadmap
[09:36:29] <GerardM>	 how do I specify a decade ?
[09:37:20] <GerardM>	 is it also on the roadmap to specify Islamic dates ?
[09:37:44] <GerardM>	 if not, does it make sense to add a bugzilla request ?
[09:37:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 GerardM: i think "1850s" will do
[09:38:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 other calendars are can be suppoerted, but we don't have concrete plans. right now, it's gregorian or julian.
[09:38:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 or you click on "advanced adjustments"
[09:38:29] <Denny_WMDE>	 and then change the precision
[09:38:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yea
[09:39:01] <DanielK_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE: btw - how's the decade represented? is 1850s = 1855 +/-5?
[09:39:18] <Denny_WMDE>	 right now or how it should be? :)
[09:39:27] <GerardM>	 1330s throws me an error
[09:39:52] <Denny_WMDE>	 GerardM: it shouldn't - works for me. just tried. which error?
[09:40:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 and which language setting? as said, not fully i18n yet
[09:40:22] <DanielK_WMDE>	 might depend on the locale? well it should, but i think it doesn't :)
[09:40:29] <GerardM>	 it is ok had to do with logging back in
[09:40:31] <Denny_WMDE>	 actually it doenst
[09:40:35] <Denny_WMDE>	 ah ok
[09:41:14] <GerardM>	 so I will enter a bug .. :)
[09:41:36] <Denny_WMDE>	 sure, thanks :)
[09:41:59] <DanielK_WMDE>	 GerardM: for what? rangbes or islamic dates?
[09:42:08] <GerardM>	 islamic dates
[09:42:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ok
[09:46:48] <GerardM>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52451
[09:47:10] <GerardM>	 ranges are being planned so there is no point adding a bug is there
[10:07:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Siebrand: Fix gender related i18n issue in anon edit warning [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/71613 (owner: 10Siebrand)
[11:05:45] <GerardM>	 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/08/use-wikidata-in-ui-of-wikipedia.html What do you think ?
[11:40:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Improve some API tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77288 
[11:43:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Addshore: Get rid of unused Autocomment code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76727 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:45:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Improve some API tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77288 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:49:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "yea, go ahead. just don't do all the unrelated doc stuff in other files in the same commit too." [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77063 (owner: 10Nilesh)
[11:53:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "all issues i mentioned are fixed now. haven't checked closely though." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76725 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:56:39] <addshore>	 Tobi_WMDE: {"entity-type": "item","numeric-id": 344}
[11:57:01] <addshore>	 Warning: assert(): Assertion failed in WikibaseDataModel\DataModel\Claim\Claims.php on line <i>291<
[11:59:29] <addshore>	 Tobi_WMDE: http://tools.wmflabs.org/addshore-dev/err.html
[12:09:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Get rid of unused Autocomment code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76727 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:17:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Use ChangeOps for wbsetclaimvalue and wbcreateclaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76725 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:18:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Move claimGuidValidator into ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76915 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:20:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Refactoring of wbremoveclaims API module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76929 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:20:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Move initialization of ClaimModificationHelper to ModifyClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77112 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:22:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Adding tests for ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77143 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:27:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Added new ChangeOp for claim operations [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76710 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:28:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use ChangeOps for wbsetclaimvalue and wbcreateclaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76725 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:29:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Improve some API tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77288 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:29:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move claimGuidValidator into ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76915 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:29:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refactoring of wbremoveclaims API module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76929 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:29:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Move initialization of ClaimModificationHelper to ModifyClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77112 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:29:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adding tests for ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77143 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:29:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Added new ChangeOp for claim operations [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76710 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:31:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Addshore: Get rid of unused Autocomment code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76727 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:31:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Get rid of unused Autocomment code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76727 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:33:03] <Reedy>	 addshore: Shhhhhhh!
[12:33:07] <addshore>	 :<
[12:33:07] <addshore>	 :>
[12:33:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get rid of unused Autocomment code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76727 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:34:21] <addshore>	 finally!
[12:34:57] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore: is becoming a movie star! :)
[12:35:06] <addshore>	 :/
[12:35:35] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#515 (master - 69a633e : jenkins-bot): The build passed.
[12:35:35] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/41ef235bc680...69a633e8517d
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[12:35:44] <addshore>	 O_o
[12:36:42] <addshore>	 since when was it failing...
[12:37:23] <addshore>	 Denny_WMDE: is about to become a movie star ;p
[12:37:38] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore: trying to act natural is kinda weird
[12:37:43] <addshore>	 I know
[12:38:05] <addshore>	 my hands were being filmed and I ran out of things to type, Amusing moment when I nearly typed my password and decided not to ;p
[12:38:09] <Denny_WMDE>	 I should have shave today
[12:38:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 :D
[12:40:58] <Sannita>	 ahem, sorry, Denny_WMDE, may you tell me where I could find a schedule of the next improvements for Wikidata?
[12:41:49] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#516 (master - 1415584 : Tobias Gritschacher): The build passed.
[12:41:50] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/69a633e8517d...1415584fa85a
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[12:42:49] <Denny_WMDE>	 Sannita: uhmm.. there's a rough roadmap, not more than that
[12:42:57] <Sannita>	 it'll work
[12:43:03] <Denny_WMDE>	 Sannita: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap#Wikidata_deployment
[12:43:09] <Sannita>	 thanks!
[12:43:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 but we had to move URL for a month
[12:43:20] <Denny_WMDE>	 we expect it end of this month
[12:43:25] <Sannita>	 fine
[12:43:33] <Sannita>	 thanks a lot, really
[12:44:54] <Sannita>	 Denny_WMDE: still no plans for badges?
[12:47:07] <Reedy>	 Badges?
[12:48:05] <Sannita>	 the thingy for noting that a particular article is featured on a particular wiki
[12:48:56] <Reedy>	 Ah
[13:01:02] <Qcoder00>	 Help
[13:01:21] <Qcoder00>	 How do I enter 'southbound' as a direction for  Metro stations?
[13:03:56] <Reedy>	 There might not be a property for  that yet
[13:06:32] <Qcoder00>	 Coded it as towards Baker Street
[13:06:36] <Qcoder00>	 for the moment
[13:07:26] <Reedy>	 Metro doesn't sound like the correct word for the London Underground ;)
[13:08:08] <Qcoder00>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q800384
[13:08:18] <Qcoder00>	 which is a terminus for the Met
[13:08:26] <tommorris>	 that sounds more like the sort of thing one would wish to reify. OpenStreetMap's relations do that quite nicely.
[13:08:41] <Qcoder00>	 if it's fixable do so
[13:08:44] <Qcoder00>	 It is a wiki
[13:08:50] <tommorris>	 certainly the properties shouldn't be directional. ;)
[13:08:51] <Qcoder00>	 I was working from the bext i could think of
[13:09:01] <Reedy>	 I wouldn't consider Metro as an abbreviation of the Metropolitan line ;)
[13:09:04] <tommorris>	 oh wait, no, adjacent station
[13:09:10] <Reedy>	 Metro. even looks funny
[13:09:19] <Qcoder00>	 tommorris:  Well Chalfont is the next stop 'Southbound'
[13:09:23] <tommorris>	 flippin' GND main type. kill.
[13:09:55] <Qcoder00>	 Amersham is also a through station for the Marylebone Aylesbury service...
[13:10:01] <Qcoder00>	 which complicates things
[13:10:25] <tommorris>	 you have the same problem with a lot of London Underground lines...
[13:11:52] <addshore>	 Denny_WMDE: want to try to migrate your script to labs?? :>
[13:12:34] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore: when I am back
[13:12:38] <Denny_WMDE>	 i have to go home and packing
[13:12:42] <addshore>	 :>
[13:12:43] <Qcoder00>	 tommorris:  Is there a  property, railway mileage?
[13:12:49] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: so you are visiting snowden airport? ;p 
[13:12:54] <addshore>	 do you have a link to the script?
[13:12:57] <Denny_WMDE>	 ah, sannita is gone
[13:12:58] <tommorris>	 Qcoder00: dunno.
[13:13:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: he left the airport yesterday
[13:13:19] <Qcoder00>	 because I'd like to add that data to some stations if I can get Network Rail to let me use the Sectional Appendix figures
[13:13:20] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: but yes, it's that one
[13:13:29] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore: it is all on github, wait
[13:13:39] <Denny_WMDE>	 here: https://github.com/mkroetzsch/wda
[13:13:51] <Denny_WMDE>	 and here: https://github.com/vrandezo/wikidata-analytics
[13:14:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 there was a mail on wikidata-tech explaining it a bit
[13:14:27] <tommorris>	 Hmm. Opening up a stack of Wikidata diffs in Firefox gets me an unresponsive script warning in FF
[13:14:32] <addshore>	 :>
[13:21:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 tommorris: file a bug. the JS should be largely inactive in the diff view
[13:22:04] <DanielK_WMDE>	 after all, it's mainly used for editing
[13:23:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of not needed and outdated documentation [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77310 
[13:23:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Simplify entry point [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77311 
[13:25:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Use correct paths in TravisCI build [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77312 
[13:25:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032 V: 032] Use correct paths in TravisCI build [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77312 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:31:44] <Qcoder00>	 OH and just a hint guys, sometimes the editor of Wikidata doesn't like me
[13:32:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Fix some phpdocs [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77252 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:32:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix some phpdocs [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77252 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:33:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] fix typo in README [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77250 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:33:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: fix typo in README [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77250 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:33:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Remove pointless standalone test runner [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77249 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:33:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove pointless standalone test runner [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77249 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:34:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Remove unused imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77237 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:35:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Do not use deprecated interface [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77239 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:35:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Get rid of not needed and outdated documentation [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77310 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:35:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove unused imports [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77237 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:35:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get rid of not needed and outdated documentation [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77310 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:37:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Do not use deprecated interface [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77239 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:45:05] <Qcoder00>	 How do I create a property?
[13:46:36] <Revi>	 go [[WD:RFP]] and find Property creator. I suggest you see policy first.
[13:46:37] <AsimovBot>	 [11] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:RFP
[13:47:07] <Revi>	 if you don't have flag, you cannot create...
[13:47:59] <DangSunM>	 direct link is [[WD:RFOR]]
[13:48:00] <AsimovBot>	 [12] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:RFOR
[13:53:07] <Qcoder00>	 Is there a ' I'd like to request a specfic property type but don't have permission yet?"
[13:53:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of some obsolete TODOs [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77316 
[13:53:41] <Qcoder00>	 The property/ type I'd like is 'distance from:" with qualifers 
[13:54:06] <Qcoder00>	 "origin point:"  and "system:"
[13:58:31] <Qcoder00>	 This would allow me to say " Little Kimble railway staion  has  <distance from> Paddington station of  <mileage> 45 miles  14 chains
[13:59:26] <Qcoder00>	 Would this be a reasonable request?
[14:00:26] <Qcoder00>	 Alternativly  "Distance from defined origin :<value>"  with qualifer Origin :<geo-feature>  be better?
[14:02:10] <Qcoder00>	 Extending this means you could do 'Alpha Centaure is <distance from defined origin> 4 light years <origin> Sol '
[14:03:36] <Revi>	  You can find in [[WD:PP]]
[14:03:37] <AsimovBot>	 [13] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:PP
[14:03:44] <Revi>	 proposal for property right?
[14:03:57] <Qcoder00>	 Yep
[14:04:16] <Revi>	 then this link is correct
[14:14:22] <Qcoder00>	 OK My propsal is made but the form doesn't make it easy...
[14:14:35] <Qcoder00>	 in that most of the pre-fromatting doesn't help
[14:15:53] <Qcoder00>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Distance_from_.28en.29
[14:16:08] <Qcoder00>	 It's laughbly bad so some help would be appreicated
[14:16:57] <Qcoder00>	 Or perhaps someone else can come up with a better idea?
[14:23:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] (bug 49306) Introducing ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74394 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:24:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 49306) Introducing ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74394 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:33:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Inject access to entities into EntityView. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75886 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:33:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Inject access to entities into EntityView. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75886 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:34:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Get rid of some obsolete TODOs [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77316 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:35:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get rid of some obsolete TODOs [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77316 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:35:17] <Qcoder00>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Sister_projects#legislative_enactment_.28en.29
[14:39:54] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: The reducer script for top-source-ref-properties is the same as for top-global-properties. I guess I shouldn't make a new duplicate one in a different directory?
[14:40:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 031] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75862 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:41:16] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Also, The mappers are pretty similar except for 2-3 consecutive changed lines. Should I make these the same mapper too, just using an input flag for global vs source-ref ?? I think that'd have been the cleanest option. What do you think?
[14:44:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Adding tests for claims to ItemTest. [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72974 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:48:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Adding tests for claims to ItemTest. [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72974 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:48:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adding tests for claims to ItemTest. [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72974 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:48:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 031] (bug 52325) validators for url schemes. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77183 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[14:48:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] (bug 47435) Set expire time for cookies for dismissed copyright notice. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77155 (owner: 10Daniel Werner)
[14:50:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 47435) Set expire time for cookies for dismissed copyright notice. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77155 (owner: 10Daniel Werner)
[14:56:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Nilesh: Added code docs, now using docstrings. Fixed a few syntax errors. [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77146 
[15:05:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Implementation work on QueryEntityDeserializer [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77326 
[15:24:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Nilesh: Added code docs, now using docstrings. Fixed a few syntax errors. Removed trailing whitespace. [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77146 
[15:30:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 52023) don't display multiple anon bubbles at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75862 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:41:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 52023) don't display multiple anon bubbles at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75862 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:46:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Do not use deprecated method [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77334 
[15:49:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of getPrefixedId in EntityIdPropertyUpdater [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77335 
[15:50:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of getPrefixedId in RepoLinker [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77336 
[15:51:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of getPrefixedId in Scribunto_LuaWikibaseLibrary [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77337 
[15:52:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Henning Snater: [C: 032] (bug 52023) don't display multiple anon bubbles at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75862 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:54:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 52023) don't display multiple anon bubbles at once [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75862 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:54:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of getPrefixedId in ExternalChangesLine [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77338 
[15:59:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of getPrefixedId in ChangeHandlerTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77340 
[16:12:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove notices that have been there for 8 months, being totally not helpfull [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77343 
[16:17:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "This cause Warnings in the PHPUnit tests for me:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74394 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[16:18:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Imrpovements to GUID generation code [do not submit] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77344 
[16:19:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Imrpovements to GUID generation code [do not submit] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77344 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:27:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Get rid of settings in ModifyClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77345 
[16:47:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Rename ChangeOpClaim to ChangeOpMainSnak [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77347 
[17:14:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Move snakValidation to ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77351 
[17:40:48] <Schisma>	 hi guys
[17:41:00] <Schisma>	 i made a little tool and i wanted to show you
[17:41:06] <Schisma>	 http://fissl.indus.uberspace.de/#25271
[17:41:29] <Schisma>	 you can add the id of the entity behind the hash symbol
[17:41:40] <Schisma>	 could be buggy
[17:42:16] <Schisma>	 http://fissl.indus.uberspace.de/#193
[17:42:50] <Schisma>	 http://fissl.indus.uberspace.de/#42
[17:43:57] <Schisma>	 http://fissl.indus.uberspace.de/#4653
[17:46:22] <Schisma>	 this looks also nice: http://fissl.indus.uberspace.de/#937
[17:52:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Nilesh: Modified MapReduce keys to output different kinds of pairs into different files, added docs to mappers and reducers. [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77060 
[18:01:00] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Are you available?
[18:14:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Nilesh: Added doc to createtables.py [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77361 
[18:20:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Nilesh: "Daniel, can you tell me what I'm doing wrong:" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77361 (owner: 10Nilesh)
[18:21:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Nilesh: Added some code docs for the Python scripts [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77063 (owner: 10Nilesh)
[19:46:13] <addshore>	 nileshc: having gerrit troubles?
[20:13:54] <nileshc>	 addshore: Was having some. Doing okay at the moment. :)
[20:14:00] <addshore>	 :)
[20:15:23] <nileshc>	 addshore: Could you tell me though, how I can amend/modify a change to "un-modify" a few files?
[20:18:23] <nileshc>	 addshore: I faced a situation like that and ultimately abandoned the changed and made a new one. :P
[20:18:30] <nileshc>	 change*
[20:18:51] <addshore>	 using git review?
[20:18:56] <nileshc>	 yes.
[20:19:08] <addshore>	 mhhm, I dont actually use it myself, but :P
[20:19:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: git checkout master -- some/file   <--- this will overwrite the file with the version in master
[20:19:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: alternatively: git reset HEAD^. This will undo the commit, and make all changes appear fresh and unstaged. 
[20:20:12] <DanielK_WMDE>	 (when committing, you'll then have to manually insert the right change ID so it shows as the sam,e change in gerrit)
[20:20:29] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Awesome. I was looking for the former method...that's exactly what I needed. :)
[20:21:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: don't forget to git add it :)
[20:21:13] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Oh, okay...or I can do commit --amend right?
[20:22:24] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: I mean instead of manually inserting the change ID? I've used --amend and it works, and I guess it should work in this case too?
[20:24:29] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: commit --amend will put the staged changes into the previous commit instead of making a new commit
[20:24:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 if you did not git add any of your changes, git commit --amend will do nothing
[20:24:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 (i can't cound how often i forgot to add something)=
[20:25:08] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Oh I see. But making a new commit = a new change in Gerrit?
[20:25:09] <^d>	 DanielK_WMDE: `git commit -a --amend` works, fwiw.
[20:25:22] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yes, git commit --amend works if you use the git checkout methos
[20:25:22] <^d>	 If you're wanting to add everything to the amend.
[20:25:36] <DanielK_WMDE>	 it does not work if you use the git reset method, becauzse then you need to create a new commit
[20:25:46] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ^d: yes - the -a is important :)
[20:26:00] <^d>	 :)
[20:26:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: a new commit = a new change in Gerrit, unless you manually insert a change ID of some existing change
[20:26:24] <nileshc>	 Yes. That's what I meant to say...
[20:26:48] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Okay, got it. :)
[20:27:20] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE, ^d: -a should do the work of 'git add .' right?
[20:27:31] <^d>	 Yeah
[20:27:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ...which is not always what you want
[20:28:23] <nileshc>	 Great. Yes....but I think it's git add . with a subtle difference, it doesn't touch the untracked files.
[20:28:23] <DanielK_WMDE>	 use git diff HEAD^ to check first. or git show after the commit.
[20:28:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: -a doesn't touch untracked files, add . does, right
[20:29:23] <nileshc>	 okay...btw, dumb question - what does this thing mean - ^ beside the HEAD. what does HEAD^ signify here?
[20:31:23] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: I've added a new change for the source ref property frequency counter, as a draft, asking you in the comments if I should combine the two pairs of top property scripts into one pair..
[20:32:05] <Denny_WMDE1>	 Schisma: that is cool!
[20:34:21] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: HEAD^ is onew commit before HEAD. git diff HEAD^ means "compare the current state to the previous commit". That will show you the diff of the current commit plus any staged and unstaged changed (but not changes in untracked files)
[20:34:37] <DanielK_WMDE>	 HEAD^^ is two commits before head
[20:35:06] <DanielK_WMDE>	 I think there's another syntax iuf you need more, like HEAD{5} or some such. never needed it
[20:35:10] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: OH! And if I omit HEAD, git diff would give me the diff for uncommitted files.
[20:36:26] <DanielK_WMDE>	 "git diff" alone only shows changes that are not committed AND NOT STAGED. this threw me off a number of times.
[20:36:36] <DanielK_WMDE>	 you can show staged changes using git diff --staged
[20:36:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 you can see unstaged and staged changes against the current commit using git diff HEAD
[20:37:15] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Aha. 
[20:37:18] <DanielK_WMDE>	 you can see changes (unstaged, staged and committed) against the *previous* commit using git diff HEAD^
[20:37:45] <nileshc>	 Crystal clear. The hierarchy.
[20:37:58] <DanielK_WMDE>	 took me weeks to figure it out :P
[20:39:24] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Reminds me of my first time setting up Hadoop with 10 nodes manually. It was *Just not* happening. I kept scratching my head for 3 days. At the end it turned out to be a problem in /etc/hosts. :P
[20:39:38] <DanielK_WMDE>	 hehe
[20:39:40] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yea.
[20:40:04] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: And I had to teach this to another guy...he learnt it in 5 mins of course and exclaimed, damn that's easy...I was like, huh, would you know the pains I had to go through to make it look easy.
[20:40:13] <Denny_WMDE1>	 Schisma: source code free?
[20:40:20] <DanielK_WMDE>	 btw - will you give me a short intro to hadoop by mail? 
[20:40:52] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Yes, I'm preparing it now... Should I CC others or just mail it to you?
[20:42:24] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: I'll keep it simple and no-nonsense so that you can just test out the Python scripts for yourself.
[20:43:41] <DanielK_WMDE>	 great, thanks
[20:43:46] <nileshc>	 Here's another gerrit thing that's bothering me: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/77361/ I've added the problem in the comments. Probably it's something really simple that I'm missing.
[20:43:54] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: ^^
[20:44:43] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: you can just ignore dependencies on merged changes
[20:44:56] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i guess it happens when your master is at a merged change when you branch
[20:45:15] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Okay...it doesn't cause any problems anyway..
[20:45:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i wondered abotu it too, but never investigated, since it does not seem to have any effect
[20:45:24] <nileshc>	 Yes.
[20:45:24] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yea
[20:46:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: i'm preparing for travel tomorrow, and then i'm on the road / offline until tuesday. katie and denny too, probably, though i don't know their schedule.
[20:47:20] <nileshc>	 Oh..okay..
[20:47:21] <nileshc>	 Please review the changes that are there when you can, I'll push one or two for the Java-side code to fetch empty source-ref property and empty item property recommendations
[20:47:47] <nileshc>	 I wrote that before learning your schedule...so I guess you wouldn't be able to review before tuesday?
[20:48:15] <DanielK_WMDE>	 maybe tomorrow. maybe on thw road. but can't promise.
[20:48:34] <DanielK_WMDE>	 at wikimania, i'll be responsive, but will have little tome for concentrated work.
[20:49:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 also, i'll be at UTC+8, that's what, four and a half hours ahead of your?
[20:49:20] <nileshc>	 oh, reviewing those would need you to do hadoop-testing too. Hmm...okay then.
[20:50:16] <nileshc>	 Yes that's 2.5 hours ahead of my zone.
[20:50:27] <nileshc>	 IST is UTC+5:30
[20:50:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 ah, 2.5, right. got confused.
[20:52:12] <DanielK_WMDE>	 wikimania evenings are usually spend socializing, so we should try to get stuff done in the morning, or at least before 6pm my time, 3:30 your time... would that be possible for you?
[20:55:24] <nileshc>	 Ah Hong Kong. Have fun! :)
[20:55:34] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: 3:30 pm means, if I have classes I'll be at school..but I think I can manage some of the days.
[20:55:39] <nileshc>	 So this means the time for live discussions, IRC is before 6pm your time...starting from when in the AM approx.?
[20:57:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 9 or 10 am my time
[20:57:14] <DanielK_WMDE>	 depending on the socializing the night before :P
[20:57:18] <nileshc>	 okay, that's good.
[20:57:20] <nileshc>	 haha :D
[20:57:34] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: So after doing the java-side stuff, the property suggester part should be pretty much complete...After that should I work on value suggestions
[20:57:45] <nileshc>	 or should I focus on the Mediawiki API?
[20:58:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i'd say focus on the api
[20:58:34] <DanielK_WMDE>	 only if you get stuck with that and can't get help, work on other suggestors.
[20:58:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 for values or qaulifiers
[20:59:25] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: That's what I've been thinking..value suggestions should be simple and fast to implement compared to the API (at least because I've digged less into its mechanisms)
[20:59:33] <DanielK_WMDE>	 nileshc: adding more types of suggestions should be easy now. learnign to write api modules for mediawiki is another new thing
[20:59:45] <nileshc>	 Exactly.
[20:59:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 better tackle that first (or drop it, if it becomes too much of a blocker)
[21:00:35] <nileshc>	 DanielK_WMDE: Okay, let's see. :) Aye, more email threads!
[21:07:00] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore: you there?
[21:07:06] <addshore>	 yup
[21:07:12] <Denny_WMDE>	 your bot being lazy again? ;)
[21:07:21] <addshore>	 *checks*
[21:07:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Inject access to entities into EntityView. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75886 
[21:07:35] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 Denny_WMDE: Nope, he is breaking it :P
[21:07:39] <addshore>	 how odd :P
[21:07:49] <addshore>	 the master process keeps OOMing :D
[21:08:01] <addshore>	 Maybe I should go and add a cron to check on it ;p
[21:08:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 :)
[21:08:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 or just run it just a few times
[21:08:24] <Denny_WMDE>	 and put it in a shell loop or something like that
[21:08:30] <addshore>	 mhhm, the master can only run once :P
[21:08:37] <addshore>	 and it is in a loop ;p
[21:08:44] <Denny_WMDE>	 darn
[21:09:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Inject access to entities into EntityView. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75886 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[21:09:38] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 addshore: I say burn it! (Please don't til you finish the framework :P)
[21:09:44] <addshore>	 added a crontab for the deploy file, it should make sure it is running and check every 10 mins now :)
[21:10:45] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Danwe_WMDE: http://www.objectplayground.com/
[21:16:40] <Denny_WMDE>	 JohnLewis|iPad: what's bad about addbot?
[21:18:13] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 The fact that version of addbot, I didn't develop :P
[21:18:25] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 Well, help develop.
[21:20:49] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Danwe_WMDE: http://www.letscodejavascript.com/#demo
[21:20:58] <Denny_WMDE>	 ah, just a not developed here syndrome :)
[21:21:13] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 :)
[21:21:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Nilesh: Added doc to createtables.py, removed trailing whitespace. [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77361