[01:52:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Werner: valueview experts have a clear definition of destroy now [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76744 
[01:52:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Werner: Improved Performance of jQuery.ui.inputextender [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77479 
[01:53:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Daniel Werner: Make use of latest $.ui.inputextender updates in snakview value variation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77480 
[08:00:04] <Philon>	 Is it a known bug? Not being able to add/edit stuff in Wikidata
[09:30:52] <Denny_WMDE>	 Philon: huh? no, it should be possible
[09:31:06] <Denny_WMDE>	 can you describe a bit more?
[09:31:10] <Philon>	 I thought I was the only one, but no.
[09:31:18] <Philon>	 I saw a post at enwp Help  desk
[09:31:33] <Philon>	 Thought it was a browser thing but no
[09:32:03] <Philon>	 Tried FF, Chrom(e|ium), IE, & Opera
[09:35:12] <Philon>	 Denny_WMDE: Has no one ever reported this or anything like this?
[09:35:56] <Denny_WMDE>	 I haven't seen anything, but I haven't been looking
[09:36:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 it works for me, what is the issue?
[09:36:16] <Denny_WMDE>	 the link to the help desk?
[09:36:26] <Philon>	 I have only one "‎Added link " edit.
[09:36:53] <Denny_WMDE>	 i don't understand
[09:36:56] <Denny_WMDE>	 on which page are you?
[09:37:01] <Philon>	 All the pages.
[09:37:10] <Philon>	 I mean the interwiki link entries
[09:37:17] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok
[09:37:27] <Denny_WMDE>	 i see add and edit links there
[09:37:29] <Philon>	 When I press edit, add nothing happens.
[09:37:34] <Philon>	 I can also see the links
[09:37:48] <Denny_WMDE>	 hmm ok
[09:37:57] <Denny_WMDE>	 are you logged in?
[09:38:12] <Philon>	 Yep.
[09:38:17] <Philon>	 Let me get a screenshot.
[09:38:29] <Denny_WMDE>	 can you log out and see if you have the same behavior?
[09:38:42] <Philon>	 k
[09:42:23] <Philon>	 It's working when logged out.
[09:43:43] <Philon>	 Denny_WMDE: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4033/3lwk.jpg That's what I get when logged in.
[09:43:58] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok, so something is not right with your setup
[09:44:05] <Philon>	 I pressed the edit links for jawiki, ptwiki, simplewiki
[09:44:13] <Philon>	 and add link at wikivoyage
[09:44:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 do you have any widgets?
[09:44:17] <Philon>	 so the blank line
[09:44:34] <Philon>	 Let me try blanking my common.js page
[09:44:50] <Denny_WMDE>	 and don't forget to hard refresh afterwards
[09:44:53] <Denny_WMDE>	 another thing
[09:44:54] <Denny_WMDE>	 might be easier
[09:44:56] <Denny_WMDE>	 go to ULS
[09:45:11] <Philon>	 And?
[09:45:14] <Denny_WMDE>	 click on "input settings" on the bottom
[09:45:23] <Philon>	 done
[09:45:33] <Denny_WMDE>	 then there should be a radio button to choose from on the right
[09:45:37] <Denny_WMDE>	 is something chosen there?
[09:46:05] <Denny_WMDE>	 saying "input methods for english"
[09:46:11] <Philon>	 What?
[09:46:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 ( ) International phonetic…
[09:46:17] <Philon>	 Found
[09:46:21] <Denny_WMDE>	 ( ) use native...
[09:46:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 is one of the two chosen?
[09:46:31] <Philon>	 Use native..
[09:46:44] <Denny_WMDE>	 hmm, ok
[09:46:53] <Denny_WMDE>	 sometimes nothing is chosen
[09:47:04] <Denny_WMDE>	 and then that leads to not good behaviour
[09:47:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok, so it seems not to be that ULS issue
[09:47:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 well, yeah, try blanking your common.js file
[09:47:31] <Denny_WMDE>	 and hard reload the page
[09:47:35] <Denny_WMDE>	 let's hope this helps
[09:50:07] <Philon>	 Denny_WMDE: Yep.
[09:50:10] <Philon>	 Works now
[09:50:16] <Philon>	 It's a js problem.
[09:50:46] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok
[09:50:57] <Denny_WMDE>	 you know how to proceed?
[09:51:03] <Philon>	 Yep
[09:51:07] <Philon>	 Tried the sandbox.
[09:51:25] <Philon>	 I will try removing every script one by one.
[09:51:54] <Denny_WMDE>	 good
[09:51:56] <Denny_WMDE>	 good luck!
[09:52:00] <Philon>	 :)
[09:57:16] <Philon>	 Does importScriptURI work cross-wiki?
[10:00:29] <Philon>	 It does apparently.
[10:06:55] <Philon>	 Found it! 
[10:07:01] <Philon>	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:PiRSquared17/twinkle.js
[13:08:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 
[13:10:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 (owner: 10Aude)
[13:16:44] <aude>	 DanielK_WMDE: if you are bored, please review my setclaim patch :)
[13:18:37] * aude  is off and my bot resting until i get to hong kong

[13:19:28] <addshore>	 aude: I wonder if I should bother setting coordinates if they are only to the precision of 1 degree xD
[13:22:50] * addshore  is going to say yes xD

[13:55:57] <DanielK_WMDE>	 aude: no chance of being bored, trying to to prepare for wikimania and a cross country train trip with all the family.
[13:56:06] * DanielK_WMDE  is just online to do urgent emails

[14:23:58] <liangent>	 addshore: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q788790&diff=63397624&oldid=60801007 what are you doing
[14:25:24] <addshore>	 ??
[14:25:36] <addshore>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q788790&diff=62367004&oldid=60801007
[14:25:37] <addshore>	 hmm
[14:26:10] <addshore>	 I am guessing this revision has a link it shouldnt >> https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q788790&oldid=60801007 <<
[14:27:09] <addshore>	 the question is, which :O
[14:27:20] <addshore>	 or something is very messed up somewhere
[14:28:12] <addshore>	 I will try and grep though the logs to find where it came from, but I am not on the most stable internet connection right now :/
[14:28:15] <liangent>	 addshore: I guess you should avoid adding obvious incorrect links at least
[14:28:23] <addshore>	 hah!
[14:28:24] <liangent>	 eg one article and one non-article
[14:34:30] <liangent>	 addshore: if I revert edits in that item, will your bot add them again?
[14:34:49] <addshore>	 hmm, it shouldnt do, as it should have removed the links from the wikipedia article also
[14:35:10] <addshore>	 and it will not make it back through the loop for another week or so
[14:36:03] <addshore>	 hunting through the logs now
[14:36:59] <addshore>	 its labs would respond...
[14:38:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Denny Vrandecic: [C: 032] (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:38:38] <addshore>	 liangent: I found this http://pastebin.com/PYBjW2Gc looking into it now
[14:39:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 (owner: 10Aude)
[14:40:02] <addshore>	 hmm, http://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dokumentation&diff=6909501&oldid=6815290 dont see any bad links in there though
[14:40:24] <liangent>	 addshore: that's in March
[14:40:33] <addshore>	 so it is!
[14:41:22] <addshore>	 *keeps going through the logs*
[14:42:51] <addshore>	 liangent: this seems more likely.... http://pastebin.com/9kRWL35D
[14:50:45] <liangent>	 I still find nothing there..
[14:59:28] <addshore>	 liangent: I know which page it started on now
[14:59:54] <addshore>	 the problem is it checks everything basically recursively, making it rather hard to find the problem sometimes 
[15:01:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 addshore: liangent: any chance you can get me a list of languages supported by wikidata easily? (if it is not easy then please don't bother)
[15:02:59] <liangent>	 Lydia_WMDE: > echo implode(',',\Wikibase\Utils::getLanguageCodes());
[15:02:59] <liangent>	 aa,ab,ace,af,ak,aln,als,am,an,ang,anp,ar,arc,arn,ary,arz,as,ast,av,avk,ay,az,azb,ba,bar,bat-smg,bbc,bbc-latn,bcc,bcl,be,be-tarask,be-x-old,bg,bh,bho,bi,bjn,bm,bn,bo,bpy,bqi,br,brh,bs,bug,bxr,ca,cbk-zam,cdo,ce,ceb,ch,cho,chr,chy,ckb,co,cps,cr,crh,crh-latn,crh-cyrl,cs,csb,cu,cv,cy,da,de,de-at,de-ch,de-formal,diq,dsb,dtp,dv,dz,ee,egl,el,eml,en,en-ca,en-gb,eo,es,et,eu,ext,fa,ff,fi,fit,fiu-vro,fj,fo,fr,frc,frp,frr,fur,fy,ga,gag,gan,gan-hans,gan
[15:03:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 liangent: that got cut off after gan-hans unfortunately
[15:04:20] <liangent>	 Lydia_WMDE: then go to https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php
[15:04:30] <liangent>	 ctrl+F for "languages           - By default the internationalized values are returned in all available languages."
[15:04:32] <addshore>	 Lydia_WMDE: yes, the api has everything ;p
[15:04:55] <liangent>	 addshore: but I've already file a bug asking for removing dummy ones
[15:05:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 you're the best
[15:05:07] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thanks
[15:05:14] <liangent>	 addshore: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51071
[15:05:49] <addshore>	 *adds himself to CC
[15:06:06] <addshore>	 shouldnt be too hard
[15:06:19] <addshore>	 :>
[15:06:30] <liangent>	 addshore: migrating existing labels in those language is a little hard
[15:06:41] <liangent>	 especially when resolving conflicts
[15:07:02] <liangent>	 ie when someone put a label in zh-classical and a different one in lzh
[15:07:33] <addshore>	 mhhm, but they dont actually need to be removed as far as I know, they could just sit in the database as a kind of legacy :P
[15:07:53] <addshore>	 hehe, anyway, thats somthing to look at next week :0
[15:07:54] <liangent>	 addshore: then that info will be inaccessible
[15:07:54] <addshore>	 :)
[15:08:33] <addshore>	 liangent: I wouldnt be so sure, as far as I can remember if a site is deleted it remains accessible
[15:08:39] <addshore>	 I imagine the same applies for language data
[15:09:06] <liangent>	 addshore: I'm not so sure either :p
[15:09:36] <addshore>	 you wouldnt be able to edit it :P (or would you using edit entity) who knows! !!
[15:12:09] <Merlissimo>	 liangent: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42396
[15:26:10] <liangent>	 Merlissimo: wrong component...
[15:29:08] <Merlissimo>	 depend how the bug should be solved
[15:31:25] <Merlissimo>	 but there are also missing label languages in wikidata
[15:33:35] <liangent>	 addshore: can you run your bot on that entity manually to check whether it'll bring those sitelinks back?
[15:34:30] <addshore>	 not easily :/ but I will try and look into it more on monday :)
[15:37:30] <addshore>	 I have added it to my todolist :)
[15:41:26] <Merlissimo>	 one of the templates has missing noinclude for its template
[15:42:56] <Merlissimo>	 because of the toolserver mysql proxy outage my interwiki tools aren't working
[15:51:34] <Reedy>	       3 PHP Catchable fatal error:  Object of class DataValues\GeoCoordinateValue could not be converted to string in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf12/exten
[15:51:34] <Reedy>	 sions/Wikibase/lib/includes/ClaimDifferenceVisualizer.php on line 406
[15:51:34] <Reedy>	       2 PHP Warning:  timezone_open() [<a href='function.timezone-open'>function.timezone-open</a>]: Unknown or bad timezone (America/Pau dos Ferros) in /usr/local/apac
[15:51:34] <Reedy>	 he/common-local/php-1.22wmf12/includes/Preferences.php on line 655
[15:51:34] <Reedy>	       1 PHP Catchable fatal error:  Object of class DataValues\GeoCoordinateValue could not be converted to string in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf12/exten
[15:51:35] <Reedy>	 sions/Wikibase/lib/includes/ClaimDifferenceVisualizer.php on line 401
[15:58:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 Reedy: thanks
[15:58:34] <Reedy>	 Logged with stack traces
[16:07:02] <addshore>	 Reedy: that was me ;p
[16:07:21] <Reedy>	 FAIL
[16:07:26] <Reedy>	 FAIL ADDSHORE
[16:07:27] <Reedy>	 FAIL
[16:07:31] <addshore>	 always ;p
[16:14:10] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore: how do you mean that was you?
[16:14:23] <Denny_WMDE>	 you shouldn't be able to make an error… :?
[16:15:22] <addshore>	 Denny_WMDE: http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5783&diff=63432065&oldid=63427104 :)
[16:15:51] * JeroenDeDauw  panics - to much wikimania stuff to hold into account

[16:16:31] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: did you make your visa?
[16:16:56] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore: :(
[16:17:03] <Reedy>	 i need no via!
[16:17:04] <Reedy>	 *visa
[16:17:57] <addshore>	 Reedy is tunneling in...
[16:18:45] <Denny_WMDE>	 Reedy: I just wanted to panicky him more
[16:19:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 http://anenglishwomaninsalem.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/anxiety_cat_panic.jpg
[16:20:33] <Reedy>	 Denny_WMDE: Belgians are pretty weird
[16:20:40] <Reedy>	 it wouldn't suprise me if there are different rules
[16:21:06] <Denny_WMDE>	 heck, if even croatians don't need a visa :)
[18:19:10] <Qcoder00>	 Help!
[18:19:39] <Qcoder00>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14456040 - misspelt in creation
[18:19:51] <Qcoder00>	 Should be Geographical datum
[18:20:43] <Revi>	 you can edit
[18:20:50] <Qcoder00>	 How do I change the title?
[18:20:56] <Revi>	 just pree edit
[18:21:02] <Revi>	 *press
[18:21:27] <Revi>	 Xan't you see edit in English?
[18:21:33] <Revi>	 *C
[18:41:40] <Qcoder00>	 I can now
[18:41:44] <Qcoder00>	 BTW Check my edits
[18:41:46] <Qcoder00>	 ;)
[18:42:11] <Qcoder00>	  I've put in the Ongar Headshunt as a geogrpahical_datum ...
[18:42:30] <Qcoder00>	 but can't yet say it's a 'datum_for: London Underground'
[19:03:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "just want to note that ClaimSaver is used only in SetClaim, so nothing needs to be updated elsewhere. This bug should be occurring in Set" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:07:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Denny Vrandecic: [V: 032] "overriding jenkins, I guess, as it messes up the branch." [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:07:54] <aude>	 thanks Denny_WMDE 
[19:08:27] <Denny_WMDE>	 i thought i've done this hours ago, but it seems i was wrong
[19:08:44] <aude>	 i am running tests now to be sure
[19:08:56] <aude>	 had doubts on the airplane that i missed updating code in some other place
[19:09:11] <aude>	 but alas, ClaimSaver is used in just one place
[19:10:03] <aude>	 and woohooo, i now have help with geocoordinates :D
[19:14:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Aude: (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 
[19:15:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77513 
[19:16:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:16:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77513 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[19:17:24] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: made a new patch, based on test results
[19:17:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032 V: 032] (bug 50933) pass bot flag to claim saver in wbsetclaim [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf11) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77499 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:18:36] <aude>	 thanks Tobi_WMDE  :)
[19:18:59] <Tobi_WMDE>	 aude: I was about to do the same ammend as you just did.. ;)
[19:19:06] <aude>	 great
[19:19:21] <aude>	 i was in slight rush earlier, so wanted it tested etc.
[19:19:44] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok. i would cr+2 it
[19:19:55] <Denny_WMDE>	 do i need to verify +2 it? because I did not verify it actually...
[19:20:04] <Denny_WMDE>	 ah
[19:20:13] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: i would only verify if you run the tests
[19:20:14] <Denny_WMDE>	 Tobi_WMDE:  alread did, ok :) thanks
[19:21:04] <aude>	 i won't be asking for backports though until next week when folks are available
[19:21:22] <aude>	 in meanwhile, my bot can edit the slower way :)
[19:22:48] <Merlissimo>	 is sb. from wmde staff in berlin and able to reach silke, nosy or dab because of the toolserver problems?
[19:23:07] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#523 (mw1.22-wmf11 - 75b4eed : aude): The build failed.
[19:23:07] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/8f3d8c16c2af...75b4eed3aac5
[19:23:07] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/9813467
[19:23:38] <aude>	 Merlissimo: i think the quickest way is mail to toolserver-l
[19:24:09] <aude>	 unless someone knows a quicker way
[19:24:26] <Merlissimo>	 i already mailed ts admin  and told amette, but without sucess
[19:24:36] <aude>	 hmmm
[19:24:52] <Merlissimo>	 mysql proxy is down since last night
[19:25:31] <Merlissimo>	 and it seems as problem are getting worse (replication stopped 3 hours ago and so on)
[19:28:21] <aude>	 :(
[19:28:54] <aude>	 although not sure silke can do anything, did you email her?
[19:29:22] <aude>	 i'm not sure she is on ts-admin (?) but would see mails to toolserver-l
[19:31:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: huh what?
[19:31:36] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: do I also need one of these passport thingies?
[19:32:13] <aude>	 JeroenDeDauw: i doubt it
[19:32:18] <aude>	 almost positive
[19:33:32] <JeroenDeDauw>	 At what station does the train to hong kong aleave anyway?
[19:33:33] <aude>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Hong_Kong#90_days :)
[19:38:46] <aude>	 alright, see folks in 11+ hours
[20:08:59] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: King's Cross, platform 9 3/4
[20:09:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/23869_566513150070607_773736808_n.jpg
[20:09:42] <Denny_WMDE>	 Sannita: you had a question the other day?
[21:00:28] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Tobi_WMDE: check out the video on this page: http://www.letscodejavascript.com/#demo
[22:35:58] <Denny_WMDE1>	 Schisma: please contact me when you read this :)
[23:43:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Werner: Improved Performance of jQuery.ui.inputextender [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77479