[00:00:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add Abraham to TravisCI build failure email list [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78166 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[01:55:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Werner: Performance improvement for jQuery.wikibase.entityview edit toolbars handling [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76490 
[02:03:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: [C: 04-1] "As discussed already, the "qualifiers-order" seems a bit out of place, I would prefer adding a level below "qualifiers", resulting into "q" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77862 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[08:08:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of deperacted method usage in PropertySerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78212 
[08:25:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Cleanup in PropertyView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78215 
[08:27:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of dumb depreacted method usage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78216 
[08:31:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of deprecated method usage in SpecialNewProperty [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78217 
[08:36:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [V: 04-1] "if I enter an URL which is very (too?) long, no response is coming back at all from the API, causing the request to timeout. The URL I ent" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77183 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[08:44:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Get rid of dumb depreacted method usage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78216 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[08:45:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "PS2: Let's use proper commit messages." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78216 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:12:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Get rid of depreacted method usage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78216 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:13:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get rid of depreacted method usage [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78216 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:21:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 52635) broken autocomments for "0" values [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78221 
[09:36:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] (bug 52635) broken autocomments for "0" values [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78221 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[09:37:27] <JeroenDeDauw>	 TobiasG_WMDE: please to review the 3 newest ones here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:%22Jeroen+De+Dauw%22+status:open,n,z
[09:37:29] <JeroenDeDauw>	 All trivial
[09:37:37] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Then I can finally get rid of those deprecated methods
[09:49:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Get rid of deperacted method usage in PropertySerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78212 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:49:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Get rid of deprecated method usage in SpecialNewProperty [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78217 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:50:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get rid of deperacted method usage in PropertySerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78212 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:52:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get rid of deprecated method usage in SpecialNewProperty [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78217 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:01:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Cleanup in PropertyView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78215 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:03:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Cleanup in PropertyView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78215 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:45:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Fix edit-links to Special:SetSiteLink [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78229 
[11:22:21] <Trevas>	 Hello! I wanted to add http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapauduc to http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q474728#sitelinks-wikipedia but it didn't work because http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3002136 already exists. How can this problem be solved?
[11:36:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Fixes to qualifiers changeops and api module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77911 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:37:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fixes to qualifiers changeops and api module [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77911 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:39:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Use ChangeOps for reference modules [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77910 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:40:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use ChangeOps for reference modules [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77910 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:07:31] <Stryn>	 Trevas: merged, in future you can do it yourself, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Merge
[12:09:10] <Trevas>	 Stryn: Thanks!
[12:40:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove deprecated and unused methods [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78230 
[12:41:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove verbose gpl headers [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78231 
[12:44:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Use Summary class and ChangeOps for SpecialPages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78084 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:46:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "Looks like the code you moved did have a test before which is now gone." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78088 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:47:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "ahhh, y u no submit without unrelated dependency? *waves arms*" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78221 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[12:48:12] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: it has a dependency
[12:48:18] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78088/
[12:48:32] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 the whole hook function got moved somewhere else
[12:48:45] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 addshore: JeroenDeDauw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78088/
[12:48:54] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 Henning_WMDE: ^^^
[13:14:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Move getEntityContent to ModifyClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78232 
[13:19:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "You want to merge this and see how it affects https://coveralls.io/r/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDataModel :)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78230 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:22:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Remove unused Autocomment class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78088 
[13:25:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "PS3: readded the lost testcase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78088 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[13:30:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] "Yes, I want to see!! \o/" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78230 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:30:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove deprecated and unused methods [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78230 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:31:05] <TobiasG_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: how often does coverall update?
[13:51:31] <Denny_WMDE>	 are statements on wikidata being deleted currently en masse?
[13:51:35] <Denny_WMDE>	 would anyone know?
[13:52:16] <Denny_WMDE>	 according to my scripts the number of statements has gone back by 300-400k in the last few days … maybe my scripts are wrong, but i wanted to ask
[13:59:13] <addshore>	 :O
[14:05:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 i couldnt find anything in the recent changes, but i am randomly checking
[14:14:54] <addshore>	 i couldnt spot anything either
[14:31:23] <Denny_WMDE>	 hmmm
[14:38:46] <Denny_WMDE>	 the problem is that i haven't written down the actual number
[14:38:56] <Denny_WMDE>	 i am merely "very sure" it was at 16.8 M
[14:39:18] <Denny_WMDE>	 and now it say 16.5 M
[14:40:48] <Denny_WMDE>	 markus claims to have a count of 17M on the August 1 snapshot
[14:41:00] <Denny_WMDE>	 which would be even more worrying, but he uses a different system for counting
[14:41:06] <Denny_WMDE>	 so there might be another error there
[14:42:18] <Denny_WMDE>	 i don't even have a proper idea on how to tackle that
[14:42:22] <Denny_WMDE>	 oh, i have one
[14:42:31] <Denny_WMDE>	 no
[14:42:32] <Denny_WMDE>	 hmmm
[14:45:03] <Denny_WMDE>	 addshore, how long to the recentchanges go back usually?
[14:45:22] <addshore>	 30 days I think
[14:45:35] <addshore>	 *checks*
[14:46:03] <addshore>	 im fairly sure it is 30
[14:46:18] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok, that is good
[14:46:34] <Denny_WMDE>	 is there a diff in bytes in the rc table?
[14:53:30] <addshore>	 *checks*
[14:54:01] <addshore>	 Denny_WMDE: effectivly, there is old_len and new_len
[14:54:12] <addshore>	 *goes to write a query*
[14:54:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 :)
[15:08:49] <addshore>	 Well, if my query is right, it looks like Succu has removed the most stuff 
[15:08:55] <addshore>	 out of everything in the revisions table
[15:09:44] <Reedy>	 That sounds like a lot of epic fail
[15:09:47] <addshore>	 :D
[15:10:05] <Reedy>	 block him!
[15:10:06] <Reedy>	 gogogog
[15:10:15] <addshore>	 probably accurate, just I should probably take into account what they have added back too xD
[15:11:49] <Denny_WMDE>	 he has added a lot back too
[15:12:04] <Denny_WMDE>	 it seems more like cleaning
[15:12:52] <Denny_WMDE>	 but i might be mistaken, you have the numbers
[15:12:54] <addshore>	 just wait until the next dump Denny_WMDE ;p
[15:13:07] <addshore>	 see if they magically re appear ;p
[15:13:15] <Denny_WMDE>	 :)
[15:13:18] <Denny_WMDE>	 yeah
[15:13:22] <Denny_WMDE>	 or if my dump has an error
[15:13:37] <Denny_WMDE>	 it seems the internal data structure has changed, there was this mail today on the mailing list
[15:13:43] <Denny_WMDE>	 and maybe i simply don't take that into account
[15:13:45] <Denny_WMDE>	 need to check
[15:19:51] <Denny_WMDE>	 yeah, let's assume everything is fine
[15:19:54] <Denny_WMDE>	 i will check my script
[15:20:06] <Denny_WMDE>	 and say if I cannot find any error
[15:21:54] <Denny_WMDE>	 thanks addshore so far! :)
[15:24:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use ChangeOps for SetStatementRank [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78238 
[15:26:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use ChangeOps for SetStatementRank [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78238 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[15:32:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use ChangeOps for SetStatementRank [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78238 
[15:43:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use ChangeOps for SetStatementRank [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78238 
[16:13:13] <PiRSquared>	 Why is there a new Wikidata logo?
[16:13:18] <PiRSquared>	 ?!?!
[16:20:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Using listview widget to group qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 
[16:20:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Using listview widget to group qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[16:23:14] <Henning_WMDE>	 PiRSquared: No idea who did that but it seems to be a temporary change for the Wikimania. The morse code spells "WMHK" (Wikimania Hong Kong).
[16:23:23] <PiRSquared>	 ohhhhh
[16:23:43] <PiRSquared>	 Henning_WMDE: where can I see the file history?
[16:23:55] <PiRSquared>	 It doesn't seem to be at Wiki.png like I would expect
[16:24:23] <PiRSquared>	 (e.g., http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Wiki.png http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/m:File:Wiki.png )
[16:26:15] <Henning_WMDE>	 The image url is www.wikidata.org/WikidataHK.png
[16:26:22] <Philon>	 http://www.wikidata.org/WikidataHK.png
[16:26:27] <Philon>	 :O
[16:26:52] <PiRSquared>	 Why Hong Kong?
[16:27:15] <Philon>	 What does Hong Kong have to do with this? Am I missing something?
[16:27:37] <PiRSquared>	 Why was it changed with no discussion?
[16:27:50] <Henning_WMDE>	 The Wikimania is currently taking place in Hong Kong: https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[16:28:01] <Philon>	 So?
[16:28:45] <PiRSquared>	 It's not like we change every logo to say "HK" at the end, right?
[16:28:58] <Philon>	 Right.
[16:28:59] <PiRSquared>	 Wikipedia's didn't change as far as I can see
[16:29:18] <PiRSquared>	 not even zh.wikipedia
[16:29:23] <Henning_WMDE>	 Been surprised myself today. No idea who changes that.
[16:31:57] <PiRSquared>	 Someone must have changed LocalSettings.php
[16:32:05] <PiRSquared>	 Where can we see the content of  LocalSettings.php ?
[16:34:43] <Henning_WMDE>	 Maybe aude knows more about the change. She is in Hong Kong at the moment.
[16:35:30] <Philon>	 https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=LocalSettings.php
[16:35:32] <Philon>	 :p
[16:36:01] <PiRSquared>	 WTF?
[16:36:12] <^d>	 lol.
[16:36:19] <PiRSquared>	 Real password?
[16:36:20] <Philon>	 I dunno. I saw that the other day.
[16:36:20] <^d>	 You're looking for https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
[16:36:49] <PiRSquared>	 This must be some fake password (hopefully)
[16:36:57] <Philon>	 	'wikidata'			  => '//www.wikidata.org/WikidataHK.png',
[16:37:08] <Philon>	 ^d: History?
[16:37:15] <PiRSquared>	 hm
[16:37:22] <^d>	 It's in git :)
[16:37:25] <PiRSquared>	 https://git.wikimedia.org/history/operations%2Fmediawiki-config.git/HEAD/wmf-config%2FInitialiseSettings.php
[16:37:36] <^d>	 PiRSquared: It's actually the root password. Don't tell anyone.
[16:37:56] <PiRSquared>	 ^d: You'll fix it, right?
[16:38:09] <PiRSquared>	 If it is real
[16:38:54] <PiRSquared>	 I'm hoping it's some trap that would do something to anyone trying to use that password
[16:39:11] <^d>	 Seriously? A live hack?
[16:39:19] <^d>	 Can't even bother to check it into git?
[16:40:16] <PiRSquared>	 apparently it's an "easter egg"
[16:40:56] <Philon>	 I saw something like that last year too.
[16:41:14] <PiRSquared>	 https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/operations%2Fmediawiki-config.git/5fc520ee5de576e09876900c231615be07c37cfb/docroot%2Fnoc%2Fconf%2Fhighlight.php#L43
[16:41:31] <Philon>	 Someone wrote "someone made me do this. don't tell ***"
[16:42:02] <PiRSquared>	 Do you know about the "Max made me put this here."?
[16:42:15] <Philon>	 Rings a bell.
[16:42:30] <PiRSquared>	 anyway, who made it wikidatahk.png?
[16:43:03] <^d>	 I'm pretty sure I know who, I'm trying to find out why.
[16:43:08] <PiRSquared>	 Who?
[16:43:16] <^d>	 Let me find out why, first.
[16:43:23] <Philon>	 :O
[16:49:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Move logic to get claim to ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78247 
[16:59:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Move logic to get claim to ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78247 
[17:02:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Move logic to get claim to ClaimModificationHelper [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78247 
[17:04:59] <PiRSquared>	 ^d: did you find out why yet?
[17:06:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Fixed adaptlettercase QUnit test [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78250 
[17:20:40] <^d>	 PiRSquared: My guess is it was done to celebrate Wikimania in HK. I don't know much more beyond that. My guess would be to ask Denny or someone when they're around :\
[17:21:10] <PiRSquared>	 Okay
[17:22:47] <greg-g>	 I wouldn't worry too much PiRSquared 
[17:23:02] <PiRSquared>	 Wikimania ends this week, right?
[17:23:12] <PiRSquared>	 then it's gone?
[17:23:34] <greg-g>	 presumably
[17:23:41] <greg-g>	 it doesn't make sense otherwise ;)
[17:23:57] <greg-g>	 PiRSquared: have you tried to analyze the logo/compare it again the old one?
[17:24:34] <PiRSquared>	 No.
[17:24:38] <PiRSquared>	 What do you mean?
[17:25:04] <greg-g>	 :)
[17:25:21] <greg-g>	 I mean I wouldn't worry too much about any nefarious purpose for the change.
[17:26:34] <Philon>	 The old one was better, imnsho.
[17:27:30] <greg-g>	 Philon: at least much more ageless
[17:27:41] <greg-g>	 timeless, I think is the right word
[17:27:47] <Philon>	 :p
[17:27:50] <greg-g>	 :)
[19:43:47] <PiRSquared>	 hi
[20:43:25] <JohnLewis|iPad_>	 PiRSquared: Hi (Late probably :
[20:55:43] <PiRSquared>	 JohnLewis|iPad: hi
[20:56:14] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 PiRSquared: I wasn't late in saying hi then? :D
[20:56:50] <PiRSquared>	 You replied almost exactly an hour after I said "hi"
[20:56:55] <PiRSquared>	 so that's pretty late
[20:57:25] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 PiRSquared: Oh... well... 
[20:57:58] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 Is there anything we can do you for that isnt done or are you being friend
[20:58:06] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 *friendly :)
[21:17:54] <TCN7JM>	 O
[21:18:04] * TCN7JM  hates his computer.

[21:18:13] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 :P
[21:18:25] <TCN7JM>	 Like, my mouse just scrolls at random when I'm trying to type.
[21:24:27] <TCN7JM>	 So I wish this WDHK logo wasn't a thing. It's kind of irritating somehow.
[21:28:20] <JohnLewis|iPad>	 TCN7JM: I logged on today and went 'Something is wrong.. What is it...' then PC told me :P
[21:28:28] <Sky2042>	 lol
[21:28:32] <TCN7JM>	 Yeah, I did the same.