[00:01:30] I basically need to create a website for collaboratively build a large spreadsheet [00:01:55] this might provide more features than I need, but it is the most promising so far [00:02:08] <^d> kostakiss: You're looking for the Wikibase extension. [00:02:12] <^d> https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibase.git [00:02:38] ah, its available as an extension? nice [00:02:42] i will look into it [00:02:59] do you have any suggestions by the way? for what i'm trying to do [00:03:16] <^d> Not particularly, I just happened to know where the extension was :) [00:03:42] ok, just asking.. i will look more into it, thanks! [00:03:52] <^d> You're welcome [00:04:17] bye [06:16:41] Hoi, are you aware that the images used on Wikidata are not registered at Commons ? [06:16:53] does it make sense to create a bug for this ?? [06:37:57] GerardM: which ones? [06:38:37] the ones with the label "image" [06:39:12] GerardM: i'm not following, can you link me to an example? [06:44:19] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2249484 refers to an image at commons... it shows in the reasonator ... [06:44:42] it makes sense for Commons to know that its image is used [06:45:03] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q2249484 [06:45:15] ah [06:45:19] you're talking about globalusage [06:45:45] yes [06:48:01] makes sense to file a bug then :) [06:50:35] GerardM: legoktm: we have already a bug for that. [06:50:39] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46358 [06:50:48] ooh, nice! [06:50:48] thanks [06:56:47] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 04-1] "see comment" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78800 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [07:18:41] thanks Tobi_WMDE [07:20:39] (03PS1) 10Liangent: Filter and sort $wgBabelCategoryNames correctly for Babel extraction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79180 [08:03:50] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Fix error in RemoveClaimsTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79182 [08:35:36] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Added missing messages for property auto-comments [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79183 [08:58:05] JeroenDeDauw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/79040/ [08:58:44] (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Add flag 'D' for wikidata edits on old watchlist/recentchanges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74636 (owner: 10Umherirrender) [09:08:20] addshore: this will fix the error in the api tests: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/79182/ [09:08:42] you know, that refrenecedUrlFinder error [09:16:07] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Fix error in RemoveClaimsTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79182 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:16:18] yay TobiasG_WMDE one less error :D [09:17:11] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Added missing messages for property auto-comments [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79183 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:17:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix error in RemoveClaimsTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79182 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:20:21] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "Breaking change to the API..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77862 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:25:32] Henning_WMDE: mind if I refactor https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78365/ a little? [09:26:32] JeroenDeDauw: Go ahead. [09:28:45] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Optimized entityselector auto-completion mechanism [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78365 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:38:47] (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Get rid of deprecated method in WikiPageEntityLookupTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79040 [09:42:18] (03PD1) 10Addshore: Remove regex in special page test assertions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79189 [09:42:56] (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Optimized entityselector auto-completion mechanism [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78365 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:48:54] (03PS4) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Optimized entityselector auto-completion mechanism [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78365 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:49:31] Henning_WMDE: ok, done. If you have a look at the changes I made now and agree with them, I'll merge the thing [09:50:10] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Get rid of deprecated method in WikiPageEntityLookupTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79040 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:51:35] (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove deprecated method now unused. [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78800 [09:52:33] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Remove regex in special page test assertions [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79189 (owner: 10Addshore) [09:55:01] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] (bug 48611) valueview expert test setups won't create instances anymore [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76741 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [09:57:06] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] valueview experts have a clear definition of destroy now [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76744 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [09:59:34] (03PS5) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Optimized entityselector auto-completion mechanism [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78365 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [09:59:46] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Optimized entityselector auto-completion mechanism [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78365 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:00:54] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62598 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [10:02:30] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Optimized entityselector auto-completion mechanism [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78365 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [10:03:00] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Simplify entry point [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77311 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:03:49] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Filter and sort $wgBabelCategoryNames correctly for Babel extraction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79180 (owner: 10Liangent) [10:05:20] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Remove deprecated method now unused [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78800 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:05:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove deprecated method now unused [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78800 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:07:39] JeroenDeDauw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62598/2/selenium_cuc/Gemfile [10:10:16] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62598 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [10:10:43] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Reduce NPath complexity and improve readability [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79192 [10:10:49] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Filter and sort $wgBabelCategoryNames correctly for Babel extraction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79180 (owner: 10Liangent) [10:12:44] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Reduce NPath complexity and improve readability [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79192 [10:17:10] (03PD1) 10Addshore: Fix alias right in i18n [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79193 [10:24:33] (03PS2) 10Addshore: (bug 52785) Fix alias right in i18n [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79193 [10:26:08] (03PD1) 10Addshore: (bug 52193) Pass back siteid for conflicting links [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79194 [10:26:20] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Does not have tests" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74636 (owner: 10Umherirrender) [10:27:47] TobiasG_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/79192/ [10:30:12] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Imrpovements to GUID generation code [do not submit] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77344 [10:31:37] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Imrpovements to GUID generation code [do not submit] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77344 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:36:47] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79194 (owner: 10Addshore) [10:43:36] (03PS15) 10Addshore: Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [10:43:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [10:43:55] (03CR) 10Addshore: "PS15 is a rebase" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [10:46:01] (03PS16) 10Addshore: Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [10:46:28] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [10:49:47] (03PS17) 10Addshore: Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [10:54:45] (03PS18) 10Addshore: Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [10:54:52] well that was interesting [10:57:20] (03PS19) 10Addshore: Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [11:06:16] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Add basic tests for EntitiesWithout* special pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79196 [11:07:30] (03CR) 10Liangent: [C: 032] "Thanks - this also fixes the issue when $wgBabelCategoryNames has elements but all are set to false..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79192 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [11:08:15] JeroenDeDauw: did I click the wrong button :/ [11:08:21] on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/79192/ [11:08:58] that is, should I have clicked Publish without submit and wait for jenkins-bot to submit it? [11:11:57] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] "I have rebased and moved further testing to the level all of these sorts of special pages are tested to to I813f41093f67." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [11:12:16] liangent: it doesnt really matter :p [11:12:57] publish means jenkins will run the tests again before merging, publish and submit means it will attempt to merge at the same time as re running the tests [11:13:15] addshore: ok [11:13:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Special page for entities without description [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/67634 (owner: 10Bene) [11:13:25] (as far as I understand) :) [11:15:50] (03PS2) 10Addshore: (bug 52193) Pass back siteid for conflicting links [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79194 [12:03:36] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] (bug 52193) Pass back siteid for conflicting links [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79194 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:05:02] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 52193) Pass back siteid for conflicting links [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79194 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:10:28] Lydia_WMDE: http://tools.wmflabs.org/addbot/addbot/iwlinks/ [12:11:09] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Refactor applyPermission out of the Test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79046 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:12:35] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Refactor applyPermission out of the Test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79046 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:12:44] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] (bug 52785) Fix alias right in i18n [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79193 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:14:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (bug 52785) Fix alias right in i18n [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79193 (owner: 10Addshore) [13:32:58] TobiasG_WMDE: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#API:_wbremovequalifiers :P [13:34:12] TobiasG_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50570 [13:46:50] addshore: liangent: agree, you can just submit it youself [13:46:57] Some people think differently about that though [13:47:03] But w/e [13:51:13] JeroenDeDauw: what's "w/e"? [15:15:40] liangent: "whatever" ;p [15:36:48] http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/1.34.161.196 vandalism [15:36:55] !team ^ [15:53:11] What's the WP:AIV equivalent at Wikidata? [15:54:09] no_onelse: WD:AN or just tell sysops in here. [15:54:14] So, no_onelse: Need anything? [15:54:22] Not now. [15:54:34] Ok. [15:55:03] no_onelse: If you simple ask for an admin and no one replied, use one of two stalk words above. [15:55:23] Well, before you just joined the channel I did that. [15:55:27] No one responded. [15:56:30] I usually respond immediately when I am here. We have a lack of admins who do requests on IRC unfortunately or just don't stalk the appropriate words or are present in this channel. [15:56:42] *aren't [15:58:32] So people respond to WD:AN posts immediately? [16:00:17] At WD:AN, sometimes. I do if they are new sections and I was online at the time. I assume you posted to WD:AN or was that just a question? [16:00:44] Just a question. :) [16:00:53] Ok :) [16:17:32] can someone give me an example of wikidata being used on Wikipedia ? [16:22:52] !team http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/168.9.210.38 [16:23:12] ... Well, looking. [16:23:24] blocked [16:23:31] good [16:23:49] addshore: If this new loginwiki didn't log me out on every wiki, I could have done it >.< [16:24:00] ;p [16:24:05] :P [16:24:51] Also again, Why do we have the team stalkword in this channel when it was meant for admins to notify other admins in our channel? [16:25:12] no idea :P [16:25:25] +1 [16:25:31] addshore: I think we blame Sven. [16:25:38] :> [16:25:58] GerardM: do you mean in infoboxes or so? [16:26:00] Or Rschen for opping him so he could add the team stalkword. [16:27:59] Vogone: yes [16:28:22] if it looks great it is better ... want to blog about it [16:30:23] GerardM: http://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bernacchi <- typical example created by bot [16:31:10] vogone why not include an image ? [16:31:41] there is an image for that person [16:31:52] Fatal error: Call to a member function parse() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf12/extensions/Wikibase/repo/includes/specials/SpecialModifyEntity.php on line 94 [16:31:56] ^ Is that a dupe? [16:32:12] it probably include one if you link that image to the item on Wikidata @ GerardM [16:32:19] *it would [16:32:49] the source code contains almost no information if you click on edit [16:33:06] just 1 line [16:33:20] I just added the image [16:33:45] YES [16:33:50] it is there :) [16:37:17] it does not do it for date of birth and death [16:48:09] Vogone: why have the place of death and not the date of death ? [16:48:21] it is now in Wikidata ... [16:48:41] There is a date of death in Wikidata. [16:49:54] I just added it .. [16:50:01] source en.wp [16:51:26] It does say there is a script error ... there are some 20.160 in that category ... [16:58:57] Lydia_WMDE: Still online? [16:59:10] multichill: jep :) wasup? [16:59:17] I only just noticed... Page information shows the Wikidata item ID... [16:59:50] JohnLewis: as requested ;-) [17:00:26] Wikidata and Commons. I sent an email about it, you probably noticed it. Could you discus it in the team when to enable Wikidata phase1 on monolingual projects? [17:00:41] Lydia_WMDE: :P In all honesty, I hardly know anything about Wikidata except what items, descriptions, labels and properties :P [17:01:15] multichill: jep i have an item on my todo list for when denny is back next week to work out a plan for the remaining projects [17:01:46] multichill: i hope we'll get to that soon but denny is super busy atm so i am not sure how soon i'll be able to get that done [17:01:59] i understand this is high-priority though [17:02:19] JohnLewis: hehe fair enough [17:02:30] If it's on your list I'm confident it will happen at some point :-) [17:02:38] ;-) it will [17:02:45] and i hope soon [17:02:47] Lydia_WMDE: The scary thing is, I have sysop. I don't know how I got it I just did :P [17:03:13] * Lydia_WMDE hands JohnLewis some liquid wikidata knowledge to drink :P [17:03:13] You'll expect sysops to know at least something about Wikidata rather than the very very basic things. [17:03:23] Lydia_WMDE: Thanks :P [17:03:38] Besides Commons probably nice for https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page too [17:04:16] JohnLewis: pfff… that's why it was so hard to check the sysop box for your account :P [17:04:28] btw will we close wikispecies in favor of wikidata? [17:04:46] Vogone: That is why you refused to do it isn't :P [17:06:45] Vogone: Give me some credit, I can delete, block and create properties :P That is all. [17:09:57] liangent: that is a stupid question ... it is similar to the question will Wiktionary be killed because of Wikidata / Omegawiki .. [17:10:13] it is the community who decide if it makes sense to continue [17:11:02] and the community is the Wikispecies community [17:16:13] liangent: WIkidata the data, wikispecies the interface to it [17:16:18] GerardM: https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:General_Wikispecies just says "Wikispecies should be stored into Wikidata, once that is finished." [17:18:32] Wikispecies could be the next SP to be adopted but looking at Twitter and all that, it is probably going to Wikisource or similar above Wikispecies. [17:24:14] time to make your bets? ;-) [17:25:01] Lydia_WMDE: Wikisource and I win the bet, or I come to Germany and steal the bet money ;) [17:25:10] JohnLewis: lol [17:25:25] So your choice really :D [17:28:14] Lydia_WMDE: 'Cool. I shouldn't do the update with my rights.' Don't worry, we won't shout at you for using staffed sysops for fixing an error which is uncontroversial. [17:29:53] i'd hope so but still ;-) [19:05:51] (03CR) 10Umherirrender: "Tests okay, but when adding a small feature to a already existing, big class, than it is a bad idea to force the same developer to add tes" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74636 (owner: 10Umherirrender) [20:46:38] reasonator does not work at this time ....