[06:27:11] <Revi>	 GerardM: Was your hangul error fixed?
[06:38:54] <GerardM>	 Revi: No the Chrome error is still there
[06:39:06] <Revi>	 oh.....
[06:39:16] <Revi>	 sorry to hear that
[07:36:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Henning Snater: Introduced 'qualifiers-order' parameter in ClaimSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77862 
[07:39:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Henning Snater: Using listview widget to group qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 
[07:56:10] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw: when can I expect decision to be made (about storing badges)?
[08:59:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Re-evaluated listview and snaklistview module dependencies [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80347 
[09:06:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Some cleanup in ReferencedUrlFinder related code [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80231 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:19:07] <aude>	 Henning_WMDE: addshore anyone have idea about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53200 ?
[09:22:10] <Henning_WMDE>	 aude: Most likely a gadget issue (since he writes it happens while being logged in only).
[09:24:44] <aude>	 Henning_WMDE: i have all the gadgets enabled and don't see a problem
[09:24:57] <aude>	 shall try firefox
[09:25:35] <aude>	 i have no way of trying IE
[09:30:10] <Denny_WMDE>	 I answered here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:HTTPS#Unable_to_edit_Wikidata
[09:30:19] <aude>	 ok
[09:30:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 user doesn't say their browser
[09:30:33] <Denny_WMDE>	 my guess it is some widget going awry
[09:30:35] <aude>	 i asked https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Community_portal#Why_can_data_pages_not_be_edited_today.3F
[09:30:48] <aude>	 not more that i can do right now
[09:31:19] <Denny_WMDE>	 hehe
[09:31:22] <Denny_WMDE>	 same question, yeah
[09:31:52] <aude>	 of course, not everyone uses chrome or firefox
[09:32:05] <aude>	 could be a browser issue, although think we'd have heard about it
[09:45:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "what happened with patchset 22? it appears to revert stuff in patchset 21? wrong branch or rebase?" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72225 (owner: 10Liangent)
[10:02:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Denny Vrandecic: [C: 032] Reduce NPath complexity in ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80233 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:04:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Reduce NPath complexity in ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80233 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:06:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: get site group from sites table [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80349 
[10:17:59] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: ^
[10:18:08] <aude>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80349 
[10:20:36] <hoo>	 aude: I can merge it... looks trivial :P
[10:20:49] <aude>	 ok
[10:20:59] <aude>	 just forgot that we removed the setting
[10:21:15] <aude>	 the setting is actually still there in production
[10:21:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Hoo man: [C: 032] "Looks trivial and shouldn't cause any harm." [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80349 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:22:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: get site group from sites table [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80349 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:40:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Denny Vrandecic: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80233 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:48:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Some cleanup in ReferencedUrlFinder related code [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80357 
[10:48:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Reduce NPath complexity in ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80358 
[10:53:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: remove wfLogWarning for property not found in ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80359 
[10:53:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Some cleanup in ReferencedUrlFinder related code [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80357 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:54:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Reduce NPath complexity in ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80358 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:56:01] <aude>	 Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80217/ before you make the new branch
[10:56:05] <aude>	 easier this way
[10:56:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Some cleanup in ReferencedUrlFinder related code [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80357 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:58:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Reduce NPath complexity in ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80358 (owner: 10Aude)
[11:25:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS23) 10Liangent: Label and description serialization now accepts LanguageFallbackChain as the language option [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72225 
[11:26:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS24) 10Liangent: Label and description serialization now accepts LanguageFallbackChain as the language option [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72225 
[11:27:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS31) 10Liangent: Include preferred labels / descriptions for entities in JS on EntityView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72226 
[11:27:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Liangent: Allow mw.wikibase.label( ) to find labels written in variants [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72751 
[11:27:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Liangent: api.php?action=wbgetentities gets a new parameter 'languagefallback' [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74954 
[11:28:04] <liangent>	 aude: I guess I messed it up when trying to resolve merge conflict in another patchset...
[11:28:07] <liangent>	 should be fixed now
[11:28:25] <liangent>	 by pulling patchset 21 and push it back again
[11:38:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove wfLogWarning calls and update comment [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80362 
[11:39:12] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 Hi. How do I use a qualifier? I need to note that GNU GPL applies only to source code.
[11:41:25] <GerardM>	 KPu3uC_B_Poccuu: first you create the statement
[11:41:44] <GerardM>	 then you edit it and it is exactly the same as creating a statement
[11:41:57] <GerardM>	 but you do this for the qualifier
[11:43:13] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 well, the system just doesn't accept my edits.
[11:43:23] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 the link stays inactive.
[11:43:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove wfLogWarning calls and update comment [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80362 
[11:44:47] <GerardM>	 KPu3uC_B_Poccuu: you want to make it a qualifier with what statement ?
[11:45:10] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 license/whatever it's called in English.
[11:46:00] <GerardM>	 do you know what property to use ?
[11:46:59] <GerardM>	 without an accepted property you cannot make the qualifier
[11:47:34] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 Uh
[11:47:49] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 That's more complicated than I thought.
[11:48:40] <GerardM>	 :)
[11:49:00] <GerardM>	 it took me some time to figure all this out
[11:49:03] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 read as I don't know what to do to accomplish my goal.
[11:49:23] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 How do I create a property?
[11:50:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Denny Vrandecic: [C: 032] Remove wfLogWarning calls and update comment [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80362 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:50:39] <GerardM>	 you do not
[11:50:54] <GerardM>	 you make a proposal for one and then you wait
[11:52:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove wfLogWarning calls and update comment [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80362 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:00:08] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: Might want to look at the section at WD:PC :)
[12:00:18] <JohnLewis>	 *last section
[12:01:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: ok
[12:01:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 looking
[12:01:35] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: ah yeah...
[12:01:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[12:03:04] <JohnLewis>	 Welcome.
[12:05:11] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: want to approve https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80359/ ?
[12:05:14] <aude>	 or addshore ?
[12:05:44] <addshore>	 ill let denny ;p
[12:06:54] <aude>	 ok
[12:07:29] <JohnLewis>	 Lazy addshore :p
[12:07:35] <aude>	 then we're ready for when Reedy makes the new core branch
[12:08:10] <Vogone>	 yeah, he is currently working on his private browser chomre :P
[12:12:19] <Granjow>	 I have some problems where property-value snaks are not enough. How would you model this? For example, I want to say that the european beech (Fagus sylvatica) grows in europe and makes about 10 % of the population. The spruce (Picea abies) grows in europe too, 40 % of the total tree population.
[12:12:38] <Granjow>	 But Fagus sylvatica also grows in other areas, and so does Picea abies. 
[12:13:09] <Granjow>	 Currently I could do Picea abies: [grows in] -> [Switzerland, Germany, France, Austria, Poland, ...]
[12:13:49] <Granjow>	 And Picea abies: [population CH] -> 10 %, [population D] -> 11 %, [population F] -> [6 %], etc
[12:14:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] remove wfLogWarning for property not found in ReferencedUrlFinder [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80359 (owner: 10Aude)
[12:14:09] <addshore>	 aude ^^
[12:14:12] <aude>	 \o/
[12:14:14] <addshore>	 denny is busy ;p
[12:14:33] <aude>	 Reedy usually makes the new branch well ahead of deployment time
[12:15:07] <aude>	 and then i have to update all the submodules, vs. updating the make-wmf-branch thing in one place
[12:15:08] <addshore>	 aude: I appear to be having a fun issue with the install script... Database returned error "1146: Table 'my_wiki.interwiki' doesn't exist (localhost)"... as far as I knew it should create the tables O_o?
[12:15:21] <aude>	 interwiki is a core table
[12:15:29] <addshore>	 indeed,
[12:15:40] <addshore>	 so why isnt it being created? xD
[12:15:47] <aude>	 i've not used the install script in ages
[12:16:11] <addshore>	 its strange.. I did an identical install a few moments ago and it worked..
[12:16:45] <Granjow>	 I guess the intersection between {people using install script} and {people writing install script} is {}
[12:17:24] <lazowik>	 hehe
[12:20:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80362 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:20:00] <Granjow>	 Does anyone have an idea to my problem?
[12:21:13] <Granjow>	 uh, are those the auxiliary snaks?
[12:21:22] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 heh
[12:21:22] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ItemByTitle?site=ruwiki&page=&submit=%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B8 says I can create an element w/ empty name.
[12:23:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72225 (owner: 10Liangent)
[12:25:58] <GerardM>	 KPu3uC_B_Poccuu: the fact that you can does not mean that want to does it ?
[12:26:14] <Denny_WMDE>	 Granjow: hmm, probably with qualifiers
[12:26:36] <Denny_WMDE>	 in your place I would sketch out a few possibilities
[12:26:44] <Denny_WMDE>	 and then write them on a wiki page, and let the community decide
[12:27:50] <Denny_WMDE>	 so you can say <grows in> —> <Switzerland> and then add a qualifier there <population> —> <10%>
[12:27:56] <Denny_WMDE>	 but note that we do not do numbers yet
[12:28:05] <Denny_WMDE>	 so right now it would not be possible
[12:28:49] <liangent>	 JeroenDeDauw: what did you mean?
[12:28:50] <Denny_WMDE>	 KPu3uC_B_Poccuu: did you check if there was a property that could work as a qualifer in your case?
[12:31:35] <JohnLewis>	 Denny_WMDE: What is the case the user is asking? I'll take a look to see if one exists.
[12:32:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 KPu3uC_B_Poccuu: license -> GPL, applies only to -> source code
[12:32:16] <Denny_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: ^^
[12:32:27] <JohnLewis>	 Ah.
[12:33:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Basic snaklistview QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80364 
[12:33:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Liangent: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72225 (owner: 10Liangent)
[12:34:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Basic snaklistview QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80364 
[12:39:59] <Granjow>	 Denny_WMDE: Nice to read you again. Qualifiers are the auxiliarySnaks in the Data Model http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Statements ? 
[12:41:13] <Denny_WMDE>	 Granjow: aye
[12:41:42] <Granjow>	 Denny_WMDE: Okay! Regarding my identification key extension; it seems that the data used there actually does fit to Wikibase. 
[12:42:29] <Denny_WMDE>	 Granjow: id key extension? sorry, lacking context :)
[12:42:32] <Granjow>	 as it is nothing else than a precise description of an entity. 
[12:42:38] <Granjow>	 Denny_WMDE: http://ec2-54-234-76-44.compute-1.amazonaws.com/
[12:43:15] <Granjow>	 Or, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LifeWebCore (WIP)
[12:43:59] <Denny_WMDE>	 ah, that's the context
[12:44:26] <Denny_WMDE>	 ok, happy if it fits :)
[12:45:54] <Granjow>	 me too! If I could make it become an official Wikidata.org (err, not Wikibase) extension, a dream would come true :)
[12:46:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 hehe
[12:51:49] * Lydia_WMDE  pokes addshore with http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events :P

[12:53:30] * addshore  pokes Lydia_WMDE with http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events :P

[12:58:10] <addshore>	 done :>
[12:58:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[13:01:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Werner: SpecialWikibaseQueryPage::formatRow is no longer abstract [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79345 
[13:06:53] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 Where is no such property "applies to" AFAIK.
[13:14:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: "(4 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80191 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[13:18:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Werner: Implemented ordering of snaks within SnakList [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80005 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[13:20:47] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: Danwe_WMDE: can haz discuss EntityId?
[13:20:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Else lazowik will go mad
[13:21:40] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: anyone disagreed with your suggestion?
[13:22:13] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: no, though i want ti discuss more changes
[13:22:53] <Denny_WMDE>	 even more changes?
[13:23:33] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 Is is okay to use the "subject" property of my needs?
[13:23:37] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 for*
[13:24:02] <Denny_WMDE>	 KPu3uC_B_Poccuu: dunno. maybe leave a comment on the talk page?
[13:24:06] <Denny_WMDE>	 and see if anyone changes it
[13:24:07] <Danwe_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: ok. Denny_WMDEwhat suggestion? getting rid of configuration? I guess he wants to discuss implementation
[13:26:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[13:29:56] <KPu3uC_B_Poccuu>	 One last question? is here a replacement for "programmer" property for a software? I guess "creator" isn't quite the same.
[13:31:40] <tommorris>	 Yes it is
[13:32:18] <tommorris>	 programmer should be something like a subproperty of creator
[13:32:27] <tommorris>	 does wikidata have subproperty relations? ;)
[13:37:42] <Denny_WMDE>	 tommorris: nope
[13:38:08] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw: :D
[13:38:16] <Denny_WMDE>	 tommorris: and won't for a while
[13:38:43] <addshore>	 aude: whats is 'site_source' in the sites table? :P
[13:38:58] <addshore>	 I love this >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Sites_table
[13:39:24] <aude>	 site_source: local
[13:39:32] <aude>	 suppose we could have external sites there
[13:39:46] <addshore>	 but currently it is always local?
[13:40:03] <aude>	 hrm... yes
[13:40:17] <aude>	 well, with the populate sites script with is still wikibase specific
[13:40:28] <aude>	 i am moving / improving it to have in core
[13:40:38] <addshore>	 how about site_domain? :P
[13:40:52] <aude>	 site_domain: gro.aidepikiw.ba. 
[13:40:53] <aude>	 :)
[13:41:03] <addshore>	 why... jut why...
[13:41:05] <addshore>	 *just
[13:41:21] <aude>	 there was discussion about sites a long while ago
[13:42:09] <aude>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/New_sites_system
[13:42:17] <addshore>	 so i should be trying to use gro.sbalfmw.yxorp-ecnatsni.1tneilc-erohsdda ? :P
[13:42:26] <aude>	 yes
[13:43:01] <tommorris>	 Denny_WMDE: it should. subproperties are useful for the same reason subclasses are useful.
[13:43:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add code coverage ignore [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80368 
[13:43:14] <aude>	 reverse-dot-postfixed
[13:43:38] <addshore>	 is there an easy way to add another site to a repo? O_o
[13:43:45] <aude>	 no
[13:43:46] <addshore>	 not using the emta sitematrix
[13:43:49] <addshore>	 heh,
[13:43:55] <aude>	 well, insert into sites .....
[13:44:00] <Denny_WMDE>	 tommorris: we don't support subclasses for the same reasons we don't support subproperties
[13:45:02] <addshore>	 aude: but there is no 'simple' way to do that? :P
[13:45:06] <aude>	 no
[13:45:10] <addshore>	 ;_;
[13:45:15] * addshore  goes to make some sort of script

[13:45:19] <aude>	 could be another script
[13:45:23] <addshore>	 indeed
[13:45:27] <aude>	 you could use eval.php :)
[13:45:47] <tommorris>	 Denny_WMDE: well, subclassing would be just a property. ;)
[13:47:03] <addshore>	 wait, aude, would populateSitesTable.php --load-from 'random url' not work?
[13:47:15] <aude>	 if it has site matrix, yes
[13:47:43] <aude>	 it's all a bit wikimedia specific and does not belong in wikibase
[13:48:14] <Denny_WMDE>	 tommorris: in that case it has no effect on the system. it would be solved by allowing statements or claims on properties, but they would have no system-inherent meaning, just as the subclass-property on wikidata has none
[13:48:15] <aude>	 yet for development, we want to have the wikimedia sites in our database and others might like that
[13:48:33] * addshore  ponders

[13:49:07] <aude>	 for example wikia does not use sitematrix
[13:51:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move ObjectComparer to internal NS and add PSR-0 based loader [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80370 
[13:56:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 
[13:56:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:58:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 
[13:58:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory to lib [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80373 
[13:58:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:58:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory to lib [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80373 
[13:59:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory to lib [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80373 
[13:59:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 
[14:00:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:03:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: "(3 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:08:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Danwe_WMDE: can haz review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80370/ ? Then I can do the EntityId changes on top of that
[14:12:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of references to no longer existing class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80374 
[14:12:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove result object which was no longer loaded anyway [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80375 
[14:14:02] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Denny_WMDE: Abraham_WMDE: aude: topic for todays call: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/76481/ still not merged
[14:17:04] <Abraham_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: it is already on the list
[14:17:07] <Abraham_WMDE>	 thx
[14:19:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: [C: 032] "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:21:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add @covers tags [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80377 
[14:22:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Add @covers tags [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80377 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:24:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72226 (owner: 10Liangent)
[14:31:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Style fixes in LanguageFallbackChain [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80382 
[14:32:19] <JeroenDeDauw>	 liangent: what is getFallbackChain in LanguageFallbackChain good for? Looks like it is not actually used
[14:32:25] <JeroenDeDauw>	 And it does not really fit in the interface
[14:32:38] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Exposes implementation details that you do not want to expose
[14:32:42] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Better get rid of it
[14:33:02] <JeroenDeDauw>	 liangent: also see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80382
[14:33:16] <JeroenDeDauw>	 addshore: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80370/1
[14:35:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Move ObjectComparer to internal NS and add PSR-0 based loader [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80370 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:35:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add @covers tags [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80377 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:38:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Implemented "move" functionality in snaklistview widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80386 
[14:41:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Danwe_WMDE: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80373/
[14:49:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80005 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:51:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: [C: 04-1] Using listview widget to group qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[14:55:14] <liangent>	 JeroenDeDauw: unit tests
[14:57:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Liangent: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72226 (owner: 10Liangent)
[15:01:28] <liangent>	 JeroenDeDauw: and, are we now removing GPL headers from all files?
[15:04:39] <Denny_WMDE>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/77183/
[15:11:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Daniel Werner: Improved Performance of jQuery.ui.inputextender [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77479 
[15:23:34] <JeroenDeDauw>	 liangent: yeah, the verbose ones
[15:23:48] <JeroenDeDauw>	 liangent: we already killed over 5k lines of those things ;p
[15:34:16] <liangent>	 JeroenDeDauw: and you mean the array inside LanguageFallbackChain is the real fallback chain, right?
[15:34:35] <liangent>	 maybe call it LanguageFallbackResolver ?
[15:35:11] <liangent>	 anyway it's LanguageFallbackChain / LanguageFallbackResolver instead of the array passed on everywhere...
[15:40:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[15:44:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Denny_WMDE: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48937 is set to patch in review but there doesn't seem to be a current patch in review - back to assigned? people are asking for it to use dates in the parser function
[15:50:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Denny Vrandecic: "(2 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:52:12] <Denny_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: can you quickly figure out if https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/76936/ closes https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48937 ?
[15:52:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: ^^ depends on JeroenDeDauw 's answer
[15:52:38] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[15:53:37] <Trijnstel>	 !admin need admin help
[15:53:41] <Trijnstel>	 please delete https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14629551
[15:53:45] <JohnLewis>	 Trijnstel: Ok
[15:53:46] <Trijnstel>	 I made a mistake
[15:54:14] <Stryn>	 oh, I made it
[15:54:32] <Stryn>	 *Deleted
[15:55:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(2 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:57:37] <Trijnstel>	 I noticed that not all moves are automatically changed on wikidata...
[15:57:40] <Trijnstel>	 is that common?
[16:01:37] <JohnLewis>	 Trijnstel: Hm?
[16:01:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[16:04:55] <Trijnstel>	 JohnLewis: see https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q274040&diff=prev&oldid=66495391
[16:05:05] <Trijnstel>	 the page title was changed on nlwiki recently
[16:05:09] <Trijnstel>	 but it wasn't changed on wikidata
[16:05:55] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE / Denny_WMDE ^
[16:06:58] <JohnLewis>	 Trijnstel: One of those two or someone noticer in the dev team will take a look for you.
[16:07:24] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Trijnstel: JohnLewis: in a meeting atm - will have a look later
[16:07:38] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: Ok :)
[16:12:50] <Trijnstel>	 JohnLewis: ok, thnx
[16:27:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Trijnstel: how much time was there between the move and your change on wikidata?
[16:28:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80400 
[16:33:03] <Trijnstel>	 Lydia_WMDE: ehm, let me see
[16:33:37] <Trijnstel>	 Lydia_WMDE: the page was renamed on  17 aug 2013 10:13‎
[16:33:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Trijnstel: outsch
[16:33:58] <Trijnstel>	 and I editted on 15:54, 22 August 2013‎
[16:34:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok thanks
[16:34:03] <Trijnstel>	 so 5 days
[16:34:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i will open a bug
[16:34:09] <Trijnstel>	 ok :)
[16:34:11] <Trijnstel>	 thnx
[16:36:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 Trijn|away: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53220
[16:42:55] <aude>	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stu/comScore_data_on_Wikimedia
[16:42:57] <aude>	 Denny_WMDE: Lydia_WMDE 
[16:43:10] <aude>	 this is from 2010, though
[16:51:08] <nileshc>	 aude: Do you think it's okay if I use Guzzle (guzzlephp.org) for making the queries from PHP to the java backend?
[16:51:24] <nileshc>	 Or is better to avoid it to reduce dependencies?
[16:51:34] <aude>	 better to avoid if possible
[16:51:48] <aude>	 how large is it?
[16:51:59] <nileshc>	 You mean Guzzle?
[16:52:04] <nileshc>	 Let me check.
[16:52:05] <aude>	 yeah, it's a lot
[16:52:13] * aude  looking at github

[16:52:49] <aude>	 although much of mediawiki's core code is not pretty, it has stuff for doing http requests etc 
[16:53:02] <nileshc>	 aude: Yup, it's kind of huge.
[16:53:11] <nileshc>	 aude: Okay, I'll look into it.
[16:53:24] <aude>	 any dependencies have to be approved by the foundation for deployment
[16:53:57] <aude>	 not something we want to do very often, and only if it's something small or something widely used like jquery
[16:54:40] <nileshc>	 Ah, I see...It won't be a problem to avoid it. It's just requests and validation. i'm sure the Mediawiki API has something for it.
[16:55:18] <aude>	 yes or else we can add it
[16:55:27] <Pyb>	 Manning is no more a woman http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q298423&curid=287710&diff=66499108&oldid=66499103
[16:55:37] <aude>	 and also check what's already in wikibase and related extensions
[16:55:53] <nileshc>	 aude: okay.
[17:02:41] <aude>	 Reedy: greg-g i'm back in about an hour or less, in case you need me for anything related to test.wikidata / test2
[17:02:55] <aude>	 no settings changes or anything
[17:03:05] <greg-g>	 cool
[17:34:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Daniel Werner: Improved Performance of jQuery.ui.inputextender [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77479 
[17:34:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Werner: Introduces jQuery.PurposedCallbacks constructor [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79145 
[17:34:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Daniel Werner: Introduces jQuery.AnimationEvent and jQuery.fn.animateWithEvent [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79146 
[17:38:45] <Trijnstel>	 Lydia_WMDE: thank you, I CCd it
[18:16:32] <GerardM>	 is someone interested in fixing a script that is used in combination with Wikidata ?
[18:16:43] <GerardM>	 (I have no clue)
[18:19:33] <GerardM>	 http://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Pages_with_script_errors 20K errors ...
[18:33:11] <aude>	 greg-g: Reedy back
[18:38:22] <Alex_____>	 hello
[18:40:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80400 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:42:19] <Alex_____>	 any advice on this wikidata list of properties? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Global_Economic_Map_task_force/Properties
[18:42:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[18:47:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80422 
[18:48:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80423 
[18:50:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80425 
[18:50:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80426 
[18:50:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/DataTypes] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80427 
[18:52:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/DataTypes] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80427 
[18:52:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80425 
[18:53:01] <Alex_____>	 how is everyone?
[18:53:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add files with no coverage at all to the coverage report as well [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80426 
[18:53:13] <Alex_____>	 hi kritzikratzi
[18:53:31] <kritzikratzi>	 Alex_____: hi
[18:53:32] <kritzikratzi>	 whats up?= 
[18:54:48] <Alex_____>	 do you know how to submit a property list?
[18:54:59] <kritzikratzi>	 um... no :) 
[18:55:02] <Alex_____>	 this is the one im working on: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Global_Economic_Map_task_force/Properties
[18:55:15] <Alex_____>	 hmmmm i wonder who i should ask
[18:55:27] <kritzikratzi>	 Alex_____: sorry, i don't know much about wikidata
[18:55:36] <kritzikratzi>	 i just hang out here to see whats going on sometimes :) 
[18:56:17] <Alex_____>	 cool
[18:57:02] <Alex_____>	 check out this Wikimedia project i'm setting up: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map
[19:41:01] <snail>	 morning all
[19:48:15] <Darkdadaah>	 evening snail :)
[20:48:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[20:48:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[20:56:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[20:56:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[21:05:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[21:05:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[21:24:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[21:25:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[21:46:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS8) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[22:22:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Introduce new EntityId class [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[22:39:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[22:41:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Abandoned) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Get rid of references to no longer existing class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80374 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[22:41:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[22:41:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Match EntityId changes in DataModel [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[22:43:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Match EntityId changes in DataModel [DO NOT MERGE, DRAFT] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)