[00:14:25] <gichin>	 hello
[00:14:28] <gichin>	 i am new here
[00:14:37] <gichin>	 i like the connection to this chat
[00:14:41] <gichin>	 someone help me
[00:14:54] <gichin>	 someone chat in spanish
[00:20:09] <gichin>	 hello
[00:21:21] <gichin>	 nobody chat in here?
[00:50:29] <Reedy>	 He likes TCP?
[02:30:50] <Sven_Manguard>	 Hello. Anyone around? 
[02:31:58] <legoktm>	 hey!
[02:32:05] <legoktm>	 glad to see you're still alive :D
[02:32:20] <Sven_Manguard>	 There was never any doubt about that. Sanity, however, is a tossup :D
[02:32:30] <legoktm>	 heheheh
[02:33:10] * James_F  grins.

[02:33:13] <James_F>	 No comment.
[02:43:27] * legoktm  huggles Mother Forrester

[02:43:57] <James_F>	 Mother? :-P
[02:44:29] <legoktm>	 It was either foks for Peter-C who decided that we should call you that from now on
[02:44:55] * James_F  grins.

[02:45:06] <James_F>	 Anyway.
[02:45:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Burthsceh: Add option to disable updating Repo on moving page [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80778 
[02:45:11] * James_F  takes his team to dinner.

[02:45:15] <James_F>	 (Speaking of… ;-))
[02:47:14] <rschen7754>	 James_F|Away was here!
[02:47:24] <rschen7754>	 now he's not
[02:47:44] <legoktm>	 The Mother is always here, silently watching over us.
[04:12:05] <DangSunM_away>	 !
[04:12:18] <wm-bot>	 You are unknown to me :)
[08:25:16] <GerardM>	 How do you indicate number of victims  (slaughter) after a battle a war ?
[08:29:24] <Schisma__>	 hi
[08:29:35] <Schisma__>	 are there any native English speakers in here?
[08:31:36] <hashar>	 Schisma__: unlikely :-]
[08:31:55] <hashar>	 Schisma__: try #wikipedia  #wikipedia-en
[08:32:05] <Lydia_WMDE>	 there are
[08:32:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 just say what you need :)
[08:32:49] <Schisma__>	 I'm still requesting a better english label for my property proposals: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#Generic
[08:40:45] <Schisma__>	 I'm also requesting comments and votes ^^
[08:51:34] <Abraham_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: Tobi will be 5 min late
[08:51:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[08:51:47] <Abraham_WMDE>	 Lydia_WMDE: just got a sms
[08:51:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aude: ^
[08:52:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hope i will be done with this meeting then too
[08:53:35] <aude>	 nobody here almost
[08:53:41] <aude>	 we can wait
[08:53:58] <aude>	 Schisma__: i am terrible at naming :)
[08:54:12] <aude>	 maybe "set in time" 
[09:02:30] <Schisma__>	 how about "story set in time"?
[09:02:51] <Schisma__>	 i don't want it to be confused with real date
[09:03:04] <Schisma__>	 s
[09:16:03] <aude>	 Schisma__: sounds good
[09:26:55] <Schisma__>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#Generic
[09:37:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Config for site group to use for langlinks. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81250 
[09:43:00] <Schisma__>	 i think P131 should be replaced by something generic
[10:05:53] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Lydia_WMDE: you can haz template for our "Wikibase project" page! http://gizoogle.net/xfer.php?link=http://hadoop.apache.org/&sa=U&ei=W74dUp2WA4Sr7Ab5wICYBQ&ved=0CCcQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNH9EZGmVhTxKnD79rdP99G-_iF6jA
[10:07:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PD6) 10Addshore: Refactor GetEntities Test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81003 
[10:07:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: rofl  
[10:07:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: http://phabricator.org/ is better though
[10:08:06] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it was even better a while ago
[10:08:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 there was more stuff like "Facebook engineers rave about Phabricator, describing it with glowing terms like "okay" and "mandatory". Experience more uncoerced community interaction on Facebook."
[10:08:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: "I have been through the previous tests again and as far as I can tell nothing is missing!" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81003 (owner: 10Addshore)
[10:10:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81250 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:10:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Config for site group to use for langlinks. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81250 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler)
[10:16:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81003 (owner: 10Addshore)
[10:16:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Refactor GetEntities Test [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81003 (owner: 10Addshore)
[10:18:55] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw_: http://gizoogle.net/xfer.php?link=http://wikidata.org/&sa=U&ei=W74dUp2WA4Sr7Ab5wICYBQ&ved=0CCcQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNH9EZGmVhTxKnD79rdP99G-_iF6jA
[10:19:48] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Lydia_WMDE: :D omfg, this is so full of win
[10:19:59] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Why did we decide to use gerrit again?
[10:20:01] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: it is!
[10:22:02] <lazowik>	 "Mac OS X is an acceptable flavor of Linux. Windows is not an acceptable flavor of Linux."
[10:22:03] <lazowik>	 hehe
[10:23:19] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 lazowik: lolwat? Someone is wrong on teh internet!
[10:27:18] <lazowik>	 oh noes
[10:27:30] <lazowik>	 crackers everywhere!
[10:27:39] <lazowik>	 *hax00rs
[10:29:04] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Lydia_WMDE: oh look, they are also going this crazy thing http://www.phabricator.com/docs/phabricator/article/General_Coding_Standards.html
[10:29:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ;-)
[10:30:50] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Lydia_WMDE: that one mentions complexity as one of the first concerns. Try to find the word complexity in the MW guide. Nowehere to be found
[10:31:14] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Jusyt based on this it seems very likely the quality of this thing is higher then the MW one ;p
[10:31:29] <Lydia_WMDE>	 hehe
[10:35:28] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Lydia_WMDE: mhh. Its below what I expected. WHy can't their src be as awesome as the docs? :(
[10:35:32] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw_: it's from fb
[10:35:44] <lazowik>	 and fb has it's own improved STL
[10:36:02] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 STL?
[10:36:29] <lazowik>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q741235
[10:37:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "(16 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:37:30] <lazowik>	 where it's stated for example that vector (dynamic array) uses the worst possible multiplying factor when it want's new memory :D
[10:37:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS19) 10Jeroen De Dauw: EntityId rewrite [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[10:38:29] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw_: here: https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/master/folly/docs/FBVector.md
[10:40:35] <lazowik>	 "With time, other compilers reduced the growth factor to 1.5, but gcc has staunchly used a growth factor of 2. In fact it can be mathematically proven that a growth factor of 2 is rigorously the worst possible because it never allows the vector to reuse any of its previously-allocated memory."
[10:40:59] <lazowik>	 so they do care about complexity
[10:52:04] <lazowik>	 hehe
[10:52:15] <lazowik>	 it's not that kind of complexity :D
[10:52:33] <lazowik>	 so I've been talking about performance
[11:06:51] <Schisma__>	 any further opinions about these property proposals? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#Generic
[11:15:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS20) 10Jeroen De Dauw: EntityId rewrite [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[11:31:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Michał Łazowik: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:41:51] <liangent>	 Raymond_: hello
[11:42:24] <liangent>	 are you  Raimond Spekking ?
[11:43:59] <Raymond_>	 liangent: hi yes
[11:45:03] <liangent>	 Raymond_: can you provide html source of the page you received about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53461 ?
[11:46:40] <Raymond_>	 liangent: sure, just a moment
[11:50:14] <Raymond_>	 liangent: https://dpaste.de/hbp3L/
[11:51:47] <Raymond_>	 liangent: that's the broken html. it show &#039; in the browser title
[11:52:31] <Raymond_>	 liangent: and thats the OK html: https://dpaste.de/YxVwE/
[11:52:54] <liangent>	 Raymond_: does it work for you if you use a new account?
[11:53:05] <liangent>	 Raymond_: I can't reproduce it in my account
[11:54:26] <Raymond_>	 liangent: weird... yes. not a new account but a test account of me
[11:55:18] <Raymond_>	 back to my usual account it's shown broken again
[11:55:22] <Raymond_>	 wtf?
[11:55:57] <liangent>	 Raymond_: hmm do you have anything special in preferences?
[11:57:43] <Raymond_>	 liangent: both accounts are using Vector skin, no idea what could be special. I will disable all gadets now
[11:58:42] <liangent>	 I don't think gadgets can affect html sent from server..
[11:59:06] <Raymond_>	 yeah, disbling gadets didn't help.
[12:00:47] <Raymond_>	 preferences reset done
[12:01:35] <Raymond_>	 does not help :_(
[12:03:40] <liangent>	 how is your main account different from your test account and other people's accounts...
[12:05:05] <Raymond_>	 good question ....
[12:07:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(16 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:07:58] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 lazowik: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!]\
[12:08:04] <lazowik>	 hehe
[12:08:08] <lazowik>	 :D
[12:08:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS21) 10Jeroen De Dauw: EntityId rewrite [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 
[12:09:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS24) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[12:09:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:10:08] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw_: _an_ integer...
[12:10:13] <lazowik>	 ah, whatever
[12:11:04] <Raymond_>	 liangent: my I copy our short conversion into the bug?
[12:11:48] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM
[12:14:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(4 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:14:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS25) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[12:15:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[12:15:04] <liangent>	 Raymond_: ok but you may want to create some new pastes with tokens removed from html source
[12:17:35] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 lazowik: wonder if I ought to watch a nazi vid in a German office? ;p
[12:17:44] <lazowik>	 :D
[12:18:12] <Raymond_>	 liangent: yeah thanks
[12:21:05] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 lazowik: I approve of that video
[12:25:23] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw_: and I'm wittly ruining the working atmosphere :D
[12:29:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PD3) 10Addshore: Create ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81479 
[12:33:47] <liangent>	 Raymond_: oh wait
[12:33:54] <liangent>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1869757?setlang=nl reproduces it for me
[12:34:44] <liangent>	 is it also the case in your test account?
[12:36:00] <Raymond_>	 liangent: yes! main and test account
[12:36:09] <Raymond_>	 are showing it broken
[12:37:20] <GerardM>	 Hoi ... I have a bot, I would run it for something Wikidata related when there is the functionality for me to run it...
[12:37:40] <GerardM>	 just ask
[12:49:33] <nikki>	 since p107 is apparently being removed, shouldn't all the property constraints involving that be removed?
[12:51:02] <liangent>	 Raymond_: that nl label writes "&#039;" explicitly in it
[12:51:06] <liangent>	 see https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q1869757&format=jsonfm
[12:51:25] <liangent>	 should be the original importing bot's fault
[12:52:35] <Raymond_>	 liangent: I see. and now I know a possible difference between my main and test account: the babel on my user page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Raymond
[12:52:42] <liangent>	 but in the section "In other languages", it's NOT escaped into &#039; but shown as an apostrophe for nl label in interfaces in other languages than nl.
[12:52:46] <liangent>	 this is a wikibase bug
[12:52:53] <liangent>	 Raymond_: yeah
[12:56:59] <Raymond_>	 liangent: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1869757&diff=67349820&oldid=67349604 looks interesting now...
[13:02:17] <Raymond_>	 liangent: I close my bug as invalid now. 
[13:02:32] <liangent>	 Raymond_: fine
[14:16:55] <abian>	 Jyothis: What's wrong?
[14:23:56] <eikes>	 lol
[14:27:28] <Amir1>	 abian: hi did you receive my e-mail?
[14:27:35] <Amir1>	 eikes: hi
[14:28:10] <abian>	 Amir1: Yes, sorry for the delay; I was too busy yesterday
[14:28:18] <Amir1>	 abian: NP :)
[14:28:25] <abian>	 I replied on the WD's page
[14:28:34] <abian>	 Well... I've just replied :)
[14:28:39] <eikes>	 hi Amir1 :)
[14:41:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] "I want to add more tests..." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81479 (owner: 10Addshore)
[14:43:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Several comments and questions, but one main issue:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:44:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "(14 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:55:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add validator for the precision field of GlobeCoordinate [DRAFT, DNM] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81493 
[14:56:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "> but one main issue:" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:59:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add validator for the precision field of GlobeCoordinate [DRAFT, DNM] [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81493 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:03:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: "(4 comments)" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77479 (owner: 10Daniel Werner)
[15:09:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS9) 10Daniel Werner: Improved Performance of jQuery.ui.inputextender [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77479 
[15:10:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Addshore: Create ChangeOpClaim [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81479 
[15:12:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(12 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:13:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS26) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[15:15:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:18:03] <Schisma__>	 any further opinions about these property proposals? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#Generic
[15:18:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81479 (owner: 10Addshore)
[15:18:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS27) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[15:19:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:19:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Addshore: Remove verbose headers and fix minor comment [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81499 
[15:19:52] <addshore>	 JeroenDeDauw_: ^^
[15:19:55] <addshore>	 <:
[15:20:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[15:20:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Werner: Introduces jQuery.PurposedCallbacks constructor [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79145 
[15:20:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS10) 10Daniel Werner: Improved Performance of jQuery.ui.inputextender [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77479 
[15:20:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Daniel Werner: Introduces jQuery.PurposedCallbacks constructor [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79145 
[15:20:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Werner: Introduces jQuery.AnimationEvent and jQuery.fn.animateWithEvent [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79146 
[15:21:54] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: MERRRRRGGGGEEEE ;p
[15:23:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Daniel Werner: Got rid of "private" callback parameter in jQuery.ui.inputextender's draw [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79153 
[15:23:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Got rid of "private" callback parameter in jQuery.ui.inputextender's draw [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79153 (owner: 10Daniel Werner)
[15:23:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Remove verbose headers and fix minor comment [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81499 (owner: 10Addshore)
[15:24:00] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 addshore: I merged your commit, so now you need to merge the EntityId one
[15:24:07] <addshore>	 xD
[15:24:23] <addshore>	 im going to leave that to DanielK_WMDE ;p
[15:24:40] <addshore>	 JeroenDeDauw_: did you see the indexing stuff?
[15:27:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80534 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:32:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(4 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80534 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:33:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(3 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80534 (owner: 10Aude)
[15:36:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80544 (owner: 10Addshore)
[15:37:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80544 (owner: 10Addshore)
[15:37:36] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 addshore: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80544/
[15:37:51] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 addshore: I did now, when randomly going through the review queue
[15:38:06] <addshore>	 :> Ill take a look at the comments tomorw :)
[15:38:10] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 addshore: you do realize that if I merge this now, you will have to merge both EntityId changes?
[15:38:23] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 addshore: the comment is trivial to address
[15:38:26] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Assuming the code is not broken ;p
[15:39:05] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: I addressed all your comments
[15:39:18] <addshore>	 per what I was reading and thinking when writing it it should work, although I'll double check in the morning :)
[15:39:31] <addshore>	 ill take a poke at the other indexes item also
[15:42:48] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: http://www.lieferando.de/lieferservice-world-of-pizza-berlin#!cart
[15:42:58] <DanielK_WMDE>	 omnomnom
[15:43:47] <hoo>	 jealous :P
[15:45:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: Pizza Georgia (regular)
[15:48:25] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 hoo: if you send your home adress, I'll order a pizza for you! ;p
[15:48:32] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 (This is completely trustworthy)
[15:48:39] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 (And will not be abused for random fun)
[15:48:45] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Lydia_WMDE can verify this
[15:49:16] <hoo>	 JeroenDeDauw_: I'm not sure they'll deliver 600km overland :P
[15:52:18] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 hoo: I'll have them deliver here and then fedex it to you
[15:52:37] <hoo>	 heh, sounds like a sane idea :D
[15:58:54] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Danwe_WMDE: 
[16:15:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add code to read in table definitions from the db [DNM, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81254 
[17:49:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add code to read in table definitions from the db [DNM, DRAFT] [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81254 
[17:51:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "seems fine, will +2 after confirming I8fba1e70 is also ok now." [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[17:55:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS7) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Refactoring of globeCoordinate.js [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70810 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[17:58:42] <DanielK_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: SnakTest::testToArrayRoundtrip fails for me on master
[17:58:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] "(2 comments)" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70810 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[17:58:49] <DanielK_WMDE>	 any idea?
[18:00:09] <DanielK_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: that's when run via mediawiki's phpuniut.php 
[18:00:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 oh, and standalone, too
[18:01:29] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: works for me
[18:01:32] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 Same on Jenkins
[18:01:49] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 There was a failiure there at some point... got fixed though
[18:02:02] <DanielK_WMDE>	 i just pulled
[18:02:28] <DanielK_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: http://p.defau.lt/?HB0YT4yAamD6DX_8szlRbg
[18:03:47] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: update DataValues
[18:04:22] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: not related to the EntityId change
[18:10:30] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: ...
[18:10:42] <DanielK_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: ah, didn't pull everything. 
[18:10:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: btw... "ProPertyId"? Really?
[18:11:13] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 PrOpErtYId?
[18:12:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS28) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[18:12:05] <DanielK_WMDE>	 or so :)
[18:12:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS29) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 
[18:12:17] <DanielK_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw_: still failing after pulling all extensions.
[18:12:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 (but yes, unrelated, since it also fails on master)
[18:13:03] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: it is however fixed on master...
[18:13:26] <DanielK_WMDE>	 must be a ghost, then
[18:14:00] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 DanielK_WMDE: see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80795/ and the commit it mentions
[18:14:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:18:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] EntityId rewrite [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:19:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:19:47] <DanielK_WMDE>	 let's see whether jenkins will try the second one before finishing the first one...
[18:19:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 \o/ cross repo dependencies!
[18:20:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: EntityId rewrite [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80394 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:22:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Match EntityId changes in DataModel. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80506 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:22:20] <lazowik>	 \o/
[18:22:21] <lazowik>	 yay
[18:22:22] <lazowik>	 :D
[18:30:45] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 lazowik: quick, make some changes on top, so we can't revert this if it ends up breaking stuff :D
[18:30:59] <lazowik>	 hehe
[18:31:10] <lazowik>	 nah, probably tomorrow
[18:31:26] <lazowik>	 so you'd better be checking it now :D
[18:31:53] <JeroenDeDauw_>	 ^demon: err, somehow missed that "Wikimedia" section ;p
[18:38:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improve EntityIdTest [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81536 
[18:42:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Use LegacyIdInterpreter in EntityId to get rid of duplication [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81538 
[18:52:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update release notes [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81541 
[18:55:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improvements to PropertyValueSnakTest [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81545 
[18:55:12] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory to lib [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80373 
[18:55:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 
[18:57:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move SnakFactory from DataModel to lib [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80371 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:06:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update PropertyValueSnak to use PropertyId [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81549 
[19:07:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fix @return doc [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81550 
[19:09:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81549 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:11:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: (bug 52501) handle GlobeCoordinateValue in diff display [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81551 
[19:12:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81552 
[19:14:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52501) handle GlobeCoordinateValue in diff display [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81551 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:14:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improvements to PropertyParserFunctionTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81553 
[19:16:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improvements to ByPropertyListUnserializerTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81554 
[19:16:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81552 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:17:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81551 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:19:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81552 
[19:20:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Improvements to PropertyParserFunctionTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81553 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:21:48] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Improvements to ByPropertyListUnserializerTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81554 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:26:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fix incorrect construction of item id [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81556 
[19:26:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Fix incorrect construction of item id [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81556 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:27:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdParser. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81552 
[19:28:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81551 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:28:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdParser. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81552 
[19:28:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: "and obviously this fails jenkins now :/" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81551 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:29:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdParser [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81552 
[19:29:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improvements to PropertyParserFunctionTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81553 
[19:29:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improvements to ByPropertyListUnserializerTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81554 
[19:30:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81551 (owner: 10Aude)
[19:33:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improvements to EntityPerPageBuilderTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81557 
[19:37:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Improvements to EntityPerPageBuilderTest [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81557 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[19:39:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81559 
[19:43:09] <jeremyb>	 Lydia_WMDE: how do i find this suggester/read about how it works/is configured?
[19:43:27] <jeremyb>	 is it used in beta cluster too?
[19:44:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 jeremyb: you mean the one one of our gsoc students is working on?
[19:44:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 or the entity selector?
[19:44:32] <jeremyb>	 Lydia_WMDE: i mean whatever you were talking about :)
[19:44:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 when?
[19:44:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ;-)
[19:44:50] * Lydia_WMDE  talks about a lot of stuff all the time

[19:44:51] <jeremyb>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46251
[19:44:58] <Lydia_WMDE>	 looking
[19:45:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 aha
[19:45:09] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that's the entity selector
[19:45:19] <Lydia_WMDE>	 it is in the wikibase code
[19:45:27] <jeremyb>	 continue :)
[19:45:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 but i am not sure where there exactly
[19:45:40] <Lydia_WMDE>	 maybe JeroenDeDauw_ could say
[19:45:45] <jeremyb>	 read about how it works/is configured? 28 19:43:27 < jeremyb> is it used in beta cluster too?
[19:46:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i'd assume there isn't much documentation outside the code
[19:46:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 the fix with the namespace isn't just a configureation issue unfortunately
[19:47:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 beta cluster: if it has wikibase installed it should
[20:00:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81559 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[20:02:11] <aude>	 jeremyb: it works with pixie dust :)
[20:02:29] <jeremyb>	 aude: helpful!
[20:02:59] <aude>	 it's specific to items
[20:03:16] <aude>	 uses our wb_terms table i think
[20:03:35] <jeremyb>	 huh? you've programmed the pixie dust?
[20:03:58] <aude>	 heh
[20:04:59] <aude>	 if i type "Help:Contents" then how do we know whether i mean help contents on wikidata
[20:05:07] <aude>	 or the item for help contents
[20:05:21] <aude>	 http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q914807
[20:06:20] <jeremyb>	 you offer them both to the user
[20:06:54] <jeremyb>	 real page first, then items. i think
[20:10:38] <aude>	 we could
[20:11:14] <aude>	 it just might not be super trivial to make the widget support both items and other namespaces and we need to think about these things
[20:11:15] <liangent>	 do we ever have any 3rd party wikibase users?
[20:11:20] <liangent>	 I mean the software itself
[20:11:30] <jeremyb>	 we could consult jorm on the actual ordering
[20:11:36] <aude>	 liangent: i'm sure we will 
[20:11:40] <jeremyb>	 aude: why not?
[20:12:16] <liangent>	 aude: "will" or "already"?
[20:12:19] <aude>	 jeremyb: we have to combine multiple api requests and do some fancy ui stuff
[20:12:38] <jeremyb>	 aude: what's your point?
[20:12:40] <aude>	 liangent: already.... i think it's likely we at least have small users
[20:12:53] <aude>	 i don't know exactly
[20:13:05] <aude>	 small uses
[20:13:47] <liangent>	 hmm that doesn't sound good.. I just tested https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53472 live, which means revealing the issue to the world
[20:14:03] <aude>	 liangent: i know 
[20:14:12] <jeremyb>	 IMO, (at least at first glance) the opensearch plugin (e.g. if you install it into firefox's search bar) should behave the same way. i.e. should show both items and other things
[20:14:16] <aude>	 thanks for reporting it and the patch
[20:14:51] <aude>	 liangent: i think any uses are minor and experimental
[20:16:09] <aude>	 liangent: do you want to make the patch for master?
[20:18:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Liangent: Add various missing htmlspecialchars() calls to EntityView. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81566 
[20:18:57] <aude>	 thanks
[20:19:47] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Add various missing htmlspecialchars() calls to EntityView. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81566 (owner: 10Liangent)
[20:22:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add various missing htmlspecialchars() calls to EntityView. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81566 (owner: 10Liangent)
[20:28:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81559 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[20:29:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove OPT_PREFIX_MAP from EntityIdFormatter [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81559 
[20:42:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: "(5 comments)" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/70810 (owner: 10Henning Snater)
[20:43:56] <lazowik>	 JeroenDeDauw_: so now I'll want to do new ItemId( string ) ?
[20:49:21] <lazowik>	 and it will even check if the serialization is correct \o/
[21:22:29] <Sky2042>	 GerardM: Hey, you know you're using the "is a list of" property wrong?
[21:22:52] <Sky2042>	 P360