[11:29:44] (03PS1) 10Wizardist: GENDER support in MediaWiki:wikibase-mylanguagefallbackchain-babel [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82118 [16:41:55] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDataModel#74 (mw1.22-wmf14 - f6586db : daniel): The build passed. [16:41:55] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDataModel/compare/b77b0dc3bae5...f6586dbc4f17 [16:41:55] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDataModel/builds/10864810 [16:44:55] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery#37 (master - e39d11c : jenkins-bot): The build has errored. [16:44:55] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/compare/b7e1188c9340...e39d11c80d4d [16:44:55] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/builds/10864814 [16:47:20] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#718 (mw1.22-wmf11 - 7ebb116 : daniel): The build has errored. [16:47:20] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/75b4eed3aac5...7ebb116c03d3 [16:47:20] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/10864819 [19:40:57] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine#77 (master - f62b686 : Translation updater bot): The build is still failing. [19:40:57] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine/compare/c177d319b8c0...f62b686e679d [19:40:57] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/10870404 [21:34:46] I want to run the merge gadget ... it does exactly nothing ... any idea why ? [21:35:22] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11843974 with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3022328 [21:37:07] GerardM: did you click the link in the dropdown menu? [21:37:15] "Merge it with…" (might be localized) [21:37:57] yes I did [21:38:44] I entered Q3022328 on the screen when I was on Q11843974 [21:38:58] * legoktm tries [21:40:06] The Swedish have created a million species articles on three wikipedias ... they are NOT linked to the articles in for instance en.wp [21:40:24] GerardM: worked for me…can you leave a note on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-Merge.js with your browser info/OS so the script author can look into it? [21:40:42] could it be that I need special rights ? [21:42:56] no…. [21:43:01] dont think so [21:47:18] Ok ... grin all those "to be merged" records :) [21:47:34] probably at least some 100.000 [21:47:43] if not more [21:49:50] and a nice subject to blog about [21:52:57] GerardM: Probably some of those are listed at [[User:Soukeeper/dups]] and in those archives... [21:52:58] 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Soukeeper/dups [21:55:16] Sky2042: there is no data at that link [21:55:34] * Sky2042 points to [[User:Soulkeeper/dups]] instead. [21:55:35] 10[2] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Soulkeeper/dups [21:55:50] That must be why AsimovBot colors those differently. [21:56:46] these are articles that are almost all named exaxctly named the same [21:56:55] that is by their latin name [21:57:11] these are spelling differences [21:57:32] "The Swedish have created a million species articles on three wikipedias ... they are NOT linked to the articles in for instance en.wp" <- what am I supposed to take this to mean then if not "hey, we created duplicates on sv, ceb, and war" :0 [21:57:43] We have a large number of those in the "pending rqeuests" page [21:57:56] over 100.000 ? [21:58:46] Well, no, I'm just pointing out that we've bumped into the, er, repetition. :^) [21:59:04] eh .. I do not get it [21:59:37] what I am saying there are TWO wikidata records [21:59:49] where one would suffice [22:00:48] sv ceb war have just been merged with en es fr [22:00:57] eh [22:01:00] * Sky2042 never minds. [22:01:21] what i want to understand how this can be fixed [22:01:41] GerardM: Only by doing the work. :) [22:01:46] Though bots can help. [22:02:39] is there a bot that can merge wikidata records ? [22:03:18] I think Ricordimosa (sp?) runs one on occasion, but for specific use of course. [22:03:25] because I can think of a way to know that the data is the same (through comparing info boxes) [22:03:58] GerardM: That doesn't work. :( [22:04:14] why not ? [22:04:16] Though it can generate comparisons, it won't do the work of fixing the linkages. [22:04:21] Too many false positives. [22:04:31] the texts will be EXACTLY the same [22:04:32] Like, way too many. [22:04:47] Trust me. [22:04:58] I can promise that much as long as the nomenclature used is the same [22:16:04] legoktm: Hey maybe you could use the Template {{P|...}} for your reports via bot for [[Wikidata:Database_reports/Popular_properties]] [22:16:06] 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:P?redirect=no - Redirection to 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Property13 => [22:16:08] 10[4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Popular_properties [22:38:09] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/09/the-need-for-mass-merge-in-wikidata.html [22:48:42] GerardM: good post, but i differ [22:49:32] i still beleive that wikidata is going to face serious issues reaching consensus to pull large amounts of data into en.wiki [22:49:59] snail: Hmm? [22:51:33] the problem I just identified is one of multiple wikidata items for the same taxon [22:52:22] GerardM: i'm faulting your conclusion, not your problem identification. [22:52:23] snail, my previous post is about standardising on one source for data [22:52:49] snail ... at some stage the best data will be at Wikidata [22:53:41] and consensus is not about being right [22:53:58] GerardM: all the pages i care about are in en-NZ, which is currently unsupported by wikidata... [22:54:47] what is en-NZ ? [22:55:39] GerardM: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q44661 [22:56:00] o.O [22:56:27] you will love to learn that Wikidata may support any and all recognised language [22:57:03] is the orthography of en-NZ substantially different and, has it been standardised ? [22:57:18] * Sky2042 watches as GerardM starts writing another blog post. [22:57:23] :P [22:57:24] GerardM: two of our three national languages are in unicode [22:57:44] Maori has a not so thriving Wikipedia [22:57:53] the other i do not know [22:58:07] English obviously I do [22:58:20] GerardM: indeed, not being in unicode makes it impossible to see that you don't know it [22:58:51] does it have a WIkipedia article ? [22:59:15] Māori wikipedia is thriving is some odd ways. Wikiproject New Zealand on en.wiki differs to mi.wiki in some matters [22:59:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Sign_Language [23:00:31] snail ... when there are people who want a New Zealand Sign Language Wikipedia, they can apply [23:00:55] the only way to write is using SignWriting [23:01:18] there is an incubator project for American Sign Language [23:01:33] GerardM: there's a set of patches for wikimedia [23:01:59] once ASL has the glitches worked out i probably will [23:02:31] as far as I know, they are writing articles ... [23:03:00] GerardM: they are writing articles != they have the glitches worked out [23:03:15] http://signpuddle.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page is the place to test [23:03:35] no it is not [23:03:55] isn't it? [23:06:11] hmmm I thought not [23:06:58] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ase/M529x544S2ff00482x483S20500519x504S18517503x517 [23:07:55] Sign language as pictures is so cool. [23:12:12] :) [23:12:49] Sky2042: when you request a New Zealand Sign Language, it will be eligible [23:13:07] and that is official [23:13:22] (when there is an iso-639-3