[00:26:11] legoktm: Yay. [00:26:15] legoktm: Thanks for fixing that report. [00:26:22] :) [04:11:24] Who's running data importing bots other than Bene* ? [04:12:08] lego [04:12:37] legoktm: you still awake? [04:15:04] probably yes but AFK [05:30:57] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Set GUID in Claims used in tests. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83439 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [05:34:31] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-2] "ItemId and PropertyId are case insensitive. Thus q1 and Q1 are the same. Nothing specifies that claim GUIDs are case insensitive. Unless t" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83440 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [05:58:42] legoktm: you back? [06:05:18] still away and now probably asleep [06:27:54] good moaning [08:25:02] (03PS6) 10Henning Snater: toolbarcontroller: Detach event handlers before re-attaching. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79776 [08:26:03] (03PS7) 10Henning Snater: toolbarcontroller: Detach event handlers before re-attaching. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79776 [08:30:56] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move ALL of the files [DNM, NDY] [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83415 [08:31:03] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Move ALL of the files [DNM, NDY] [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83415 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [08:44:45] (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Move ALL of the files [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83415 [08:50:29] consider all of the files moved [08:55:29] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase#52 (master - 38c5970 : jeroendedauw): The build was broken. [08:55:29] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/compare/2acfd9d6a2fe...38c5970bd02c [08:55:29] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/builds/11185815 [09:15:31] aude: wouldn't it be nice if the badges element of the array was only added if there were actually badges? [09:16:27] sure :) [09:17:31] mhhhm [09:17:41] ill poke lazowick when he gets here :P [09:25:11] (03PS14) 10Henning Snater: Using listview widget to group qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 [09:25:18] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Error_messages_when_moving_links_from_one_item_to_another [09:25:21] and .... [09:25:37] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Page_not_rendering [09:27:49] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Export/Q14874453 [09:30:11] yep, bot-created items look the same as that one [09:30:29] with the old sitelink structure? [09:30:41] yes [09:31:08] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Export/Q14874430 [09:38:13] (03PS8) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use cucumber for aliases tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 [09:38:39] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:38:46] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:42:46] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match renaming and interface splits in WikibaseDatabase [DNM] [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83621 [09:47:49] Abraham_WMDE: https://github.com/watching [09:47:57] That has a checkbox to get rid of all the stupid notifications [09:49:14] JeroenDeDauw: yea! thx [09:59:19] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [10:00:18] JeroenDeDauw: what name for the claim class did we end up sticking with? [10:00:22] ClaimIsGuidPair? O_o [10:00:31] *id [10:06:00] (03PS9) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use cucumber for aliases tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 [10:07:07] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Add additional class to aliases add button [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83623 [10:09:21] ExternalClaimId! [10:11:09] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83623 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [10:11:59] (03PS10) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use cucumber for aliases tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 [10:14:24] (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Add additional class to aliases add button [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83623 [10:14:37] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83623 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [10:16:10] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: [C: 032] Add additional class to aliases add button [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83623 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [10:17:41] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Implement ExternalClaimId class [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 [10:18:43] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Implement ExternalClaimId class [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 [10:19:31] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fixes to prefixing code [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83624 [10:19:52] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match renaming and interface splits in WikibaseDatabase [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83621 [10:20:28] (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match renaming and interface splits in WikibaseDatabase [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83621 [10:21:31] (03PS1) 10Aude: add forward compatibility for retrieving item site links [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83625 [10:22:01] DanielK_WMDE: addshore Tobi_WMDE https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83625/ [10:22:20] i'd like that in the old branch [10:22:46] running the change dispatcher with old client and new repo, i see a similar error as mentioned on project chat [10:22:51] this would take care of it [10:23:09] did anyone else see such error in dispatcher? [10:23:55] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Fixes to prefixing code [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83624 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:23:59] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fixes to prefixing code [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83624 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:29:04] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Match renaming and interface splits in WikibaseDatabase [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83621 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:29:15] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Match renaming and interface splits in WikibaseDatabase [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83621 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:29:21] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] fix covers tag [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83617 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:29:41] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Fix file name [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83616 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:34:34] (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 52801) Documenting external JSON format [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82837 [10:46:52] DanielK_WMDE: when will that uppercase change be live? [10:47:40] liangent: tonight, if all goes well [10:51:12] DanielK_WMDE: I think I'd prefer to change everything to uppercase in my code, which is easier, rather than make them compatible with both format [10:51:26] at the exact deployment time [10:51:58] liangent: i can't give you an exact time, it depends on when reedy is awake and gets around to it. [10:52:06] unless you'll revert the deployment at some point, which would be annoying [10:52:10] stick around here and watch for reedy [10:56:10] (03PS4) 10Addshore: Implement ExternalClaimId class [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 [10:56:18] DanielK_WMDE: JeroenDeDauw ^^ [10:56:50] addshore: "add an option "lowercaseids" to all API modules just seems silly :/" not really, it might be possible to add lowercaseids to some global request params [10:56:58] and avoid fixing case everywhere [10:57:17] to some global request params? [10:57:51] for example, I have a function request( params ) { } [10:58:02] I can simply params['lowercaseids'] = '' in it [10:58:30] and ignore warning from irrelevant modules [10:58:33] indeed, but its probably no more effort than removing the dependency on lowercase ids :P [11:00:02] addshore: changing every occurrence of lowercase ids to uppercase ones is labor work, which many people dislike [11:01:16] so is adding params['lowercaseids'] = '', and if we did add a lowercaseids param to the api I don't see it staying forever, it would more than likely be marked as deprecated instantly (or in my opinion it should be) as the scripts at the end of the day do need to change [11:02:02] addshore: not all scripts will run forever [11:02:53] for example, I have / will create some scripts importing data from some datasources, and it takes one year to import every datasource [11:03:07] then if the param lives for longer than one year, it's enough [11:03:21] as long as I write no more scripts depending on lowercase ida [11:03:22] *ids [11:03:57] your can read that "one year" as "one month" or something [11:04:30] what cases are there that people depend on lowercase ids currently? [11:04:32] those importing scripts must be very task-specific, so it's not surprised to see many hardcoded pXXX or qXXX in them [11:04:42] addshore: for me, mapping keys [11:04:45] liangent: doing this for every API modules we have is sadly a pretty big and messy task :/ [11:05:09] liangent: it cant be that hard to change the p to a P ? [11:05:22] liangent: as far as I can see, only hardcoded ids are problematic. [11:05:31] DanielK_WMDE: right [11:06:01] I used a regular expression earlier to fix a documentation page with lots of IDs :) [11:06:21] shouldn't be hard to find & replace literals of the form p\d+ with P$1 [11:06:29] p(\d+) [11:06:44] addshore: changing is easy; making sure everything is changed before they break is not that easy [11:27:30] (03PS1) 10Aude: fix compatibility with site link badge structure [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83626 [11:27:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] fix compatibility with site link badge structure [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83626 (owner: 10Aude) [11:30:17] (03PS11) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use cucumber for aliases tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 [11:31:34] addshore: y u name it ExternalClaimId ? :<0 [11:31:37] ;p [11:31:45] >.< [11:32:03] I asked hours ago what it should be called again, noone replied to I scrolled back and thats the last name I found :P [11:32:12] suggested by you actually x [11:32:14] xD [11:37:09] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "(4 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 (owner: 10Addshore) [11:37:36] * JeroenDeDauw hides from addshore behind monitor wall [11:40:57] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase#53 (master - e42b3f8 : jeroendedauw): The build is still failing. [11:40:57] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/compare/38c5970bd02c...e42b3f84bede [11:40:57] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/builds/11188564 [11:46:06] hi [11:47:27] (03CR) 10Henning Snater: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:58:58] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase#54 (master - a14c249 : Addshore): The build was fixed. [11:58:58] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/compare/e42b3f84bede...a14c24908f80 [11:58:58] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/builds/11188709 [11:59:09] Hi Astur [12:01:57] (03PS15) 10Henning Snater: Using listview widget to group qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/78246 [12:08:16] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase#55 (master - 23bb2d9 : Addshore): The build was fixed. [12:08:16] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/compare/a14c24908f80...23bb2d990b17 [12:08:16] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/builds/11188731 [12:11:29] addshore: meeergeee https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83408/ [12:12:08] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match changes in Wikibase QueryEngine [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83629 [12:13:16] addshore: your commit got that -1 from me at 13:37? ;p [12:16:23] (03PS12) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use cucumber for aliases tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 [12:17:21] que tais echando un pitu? [12:20:21] hm, what happend to http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/ ? [12:21:29] Tobi_WMDE: labs is having some issues currently [12:21:54] addshore: ok, so nothig new [12:21:59] :D [12:25:44] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Add more tags to cucumber tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83630 [12:33:46] (03PS8) 10Henning Snater: Implemented ordering of snaks within SnakList [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80005 [12:39:40] (03PS7) 10Henning Snater: Added basic listview QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80191 [12:39:41] (03PS7) 10Henning Snater: Implemented "move" functionality in listview widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80200 [12:39:42] (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: Basic snaklistview QUnit tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80364 [12:39:43] (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Implemented "move" functionality in snaklistview widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80386 [12:48:36] JeroenDeDauw: PS5 >> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83400/ [12:48:52] silly grrrit-wm stopped spamming :< [14:11:14] Danwe_WMDE: y u no https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Coding_conventions ? ;p [14:11:59] JeroenDeDauw: one day [14:14:56] addshore: well, that is fine now [14:15:00] except the style issues :D [14:15:05] ...... [14:15:25] oh well... :P [14:15:27] addshore: [14:15:33] can merge if you do follow up ;p [14:15:42] what style issues? [14:15:45] just comment and ill fix them [14:26:34] addshore: I had already commented [14:26:42] silly grrrit-wm [14:26:48] perhaps I broke it [14:27:10] * JeroenDeDauw kicks grrrit-wm [14:27:20] mhh, the old bot kicked back [14:43:50] JeroenDeDauw: why we have no interface for parsers? [14:53:58] JeroenDeDauw: again >> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83400 [14:56:02] cdfsfsddsa [14:56:06] dsklafjdklsf;sdljf [14:56:15] adsk;lfjdsaf [14:56:15] ads [14:56:15] dfs [14:56:15] fds [14:56:16] afd [14:56:16] fads [14:56:16] fs [14:56:16] fas [14:56:17] fads [14:56:17] dfs [14:56:18] af [14:56:18] df [14:56:19] d [14:56:19] d [14:56:20] d [14:56:20] d [14:56:25] cat! [14:56:39] cats! [14:57:12] !cat is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4 [14:57:13] Key was added [14:57:15] :) [14:57:20] heh [14:58:14] addshore: what is this interface good for? [14:58:46] addshore: I do not see how it adds any value [14:58:46] well, otherwise i can not typehint where you want me to typehint :P [15:01:22] addshore: ah, indeed [15:01:33] I thought there already was something to type hint against an entity id parser [15:01:35] apparently not [15:01:40] ill do a followup to implement the interface in other places :P [15:01:40] And this is indeed needed [15:01:45] ie. other parsers.. [15:08:26] im a daniel [15:08:34] that after a year can still not lock his screen [15:42:45] JeroenDeDauw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83640/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83641/ [15:47:08] JeroenDeDauw: REEEVIEW!!!!!eleven https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82400/ [15:47:21] there's a few discussion points open, but i think i adressed most of your comments [15:47:42] try diffing PS 5 vs PS 7 [16:13:56] (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Implemented movetoolbar widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80542 [16:13:57] (03PS5) 10Henning Snater: Registered movetoolbar definition for qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80543 [16:14:00] (03PS5) 10Addshore: Implement ClaimGuid and Parser class [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 [16:14:06] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Split up test`scenarios for label and description tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83632 [16:14:08] (03PS6) 10Henning Snater: Registered movetoolbar definition for qualifiers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80543 [16:14:09] (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Split up test`scenarios for label and description tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83632 [16:14:12] (03PS3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Split up test`scenarios for label and description tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83632 [16:14:19] grrrit-wm is back!!! :P [16:14:24] (03PS13) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use cucumber for aliases tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 [16:14:25] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Make wait-for-request method more robust in selenium tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83634 [16:14:26] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [V: 032] Make wait-for-request method more robust in selenium tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83634 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [16:14:27] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Make wait-for-request method more robust in selenium tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83634 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [16:14:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make wait-for-request method more robust in selenium tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83634 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [16:14:29] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "(6 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:14:31] JeroenDeDauw: ^^ :D [16:14:32] (03PS14) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Use cucumber for aliases tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83089 [16:14:43] (03PS1) 10Aude: ensure correct navigation ids in client for all site groups [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83636 [16:14:46] (03PS6) 10Addshore: Implement ClaimGuid and Parser class [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 [16:14:47] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "strtolower is also needed in Wikibase.hooks in" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83413 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:14:48] (03PS1) 10Daniel Kinzler: Allow serializers to use upper and/or lower case ids, as needed. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83638 [16:14:49] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Implement ClaimGuid and Parser class [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83400 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:14:50] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83638 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:14:51] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Added TableDeletionFailedException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83639 [16:14:54] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update docs [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83642 [16:14:55] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Update docs [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83642 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:14:57] (03PD3) 10Addshore: Implement EntityIdParser as an Interface [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83640 [16:14:58] (03PD2) 10Addshore: Match changes in DataModel [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83641 [16:15:00] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Fix documentation [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83644 [16:15:01] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Fix documentation [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83644 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:15:02] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: SimpleTableSchemaUpdater [DNM] [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83645 [16:15:03] (03PS1) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [16:15:04] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83638 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:15:05] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [16:15:07] (03PS1) 10Daniel Werner: Follows Core change Ib7a8a8f, implements EntityContent::getActualContent [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83648 [16:15:09] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improve FieldDefinitionTest [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83650 [16:15:10] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update TravisCi config to not mess up coverage report [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83652 [16:15:12] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Update TravisCi config to not mess up coverage report [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83652 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:15:13] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Allow serializers to use upper and/or lower case ids, as needed. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83638 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:15:14] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: SimpleTableSchemaUpdater [DNM] [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83645 [16:15:16] (03PS3) 10Daniel Kinzler: Force entity IDs to be lower case in wb_changes. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83413 [16:21:08] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(2 comments)" [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83640 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:21:27] JeroenDeDauw: bah, gerrit ate my update. review PS 6, PS 7 is crap, it actually reverts PS 6. [16:27:03] (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing SnakFormatter and SnakFormatterFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82400 [16:27:35] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "PS 8 reverts PS 7, restoring PS 6." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82400 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:27:49] (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing SnakFormatter and SnakFormatterFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82400 [16:30:54] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Implement EntityIdParser as an Interface [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83640 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:30:57] (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Match changes in DataModel [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83641 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:31:08] addshore: can you follow up to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83640/ comments? [16:31:26] DanielK_WMDE: lmk when the stuff is unfucked [16:33:24] JeroenDeDauw: will do [16:34:40] (03PS2) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [16:35:03] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Match changes in DataModel [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83641 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:35:10] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [16:36:24] Danwe_WMDE: easy review is ewasy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83650/ [16:37:01] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Followup tidyup of EntityIdParser [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83654 [16:37:15] JeroenDeDauw: ^^ :) [16:37:19] what is THAT ^ ? [16:37:20] yay grrrrit is back [16:37:22] (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 46366) Use SnakFormatter for diffs and summaries [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83091 [16:37:23] (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 53745) Remove old SnakFormatter. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83090 [16:37:24] (03PS8) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make EntityIdLabelFormatter more flexible [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82869 [16:37:33] (03PS3) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [16:37:35] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 46366) Use SnakFormatter for diffs and summaries [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83091 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:37:41] addshore: right, I though someone run a bot submitting changes... [16:37:42] JeroenDeDauw: unfucking stuff complete. [16:37:43] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 53745) Remove old SnakFormatter. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83090 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:37:47] or not. [16:37:50] whut? [16:37:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make EntityIdLabelFormatter more flexible [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82869 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:38:07] :O [16:38:44] DanielK_WMDE: I guess you need to rebase on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83641/ or above now [16:38:58] JeroenDeDauw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82400/9 should be fine for review. you can diff PS 5 against PS 8, PS 9 is a rebase. [16:39:10] JeroenDeDauw: the follow-ups seems to be screwed still [16:39:28] addshore: i did [16:39:34] ahh :/ [16:39:47] actually... maybe not :) [16:40:00] could be i missed that. let me check. [16:40:01] heh 00:00:02.293 Errors parsing lib/includes/formatters/WikibaseSnakFormatterBuilders.php [16:40:07] o_O [16:40:11] the tests didnt even get around to running ;p [16:40:16] go fix your syntax error? ;p [16:40:17] merge artifact?? [16:40:22] (03CR) 10Daniel Werner: [C: 032] Improve FieldDefinitionTest [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83650 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:40:23] something :P [16:40:34] PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '*', expecting T_FUNCTION in lib/includes/formatters/WikibaseSnakFormatterBuilders.php on line [16:40:51] yea, will check it out in a minute [16:41:02] let me rebase the very first change again [16:41:13] Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [16:41:18] guh. that fails. again. whut?? [16:41:19] morning Reedy ;p [16:41:22] * aude waves [16:41:31] hey Reedy [16:42:27] so, we have a few backports going into our branches [16:42:34] and then should be ready [16:46:58] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] "I don't want to have this on master :)" [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83636 (owner: 10Aude) [16:47:05] * aude neither :) [16:47:20] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] ensure correct navigation ids in client for all site groups [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83636 (owner: 10Aude) [16:47:20] Awesome [16:47:30] I've an excuse to take my laptop with me [16:47:34] heh [16:47:44] ok, what's jenkins complaiing about [16:49:27] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] fix compatibility with site link badge structure [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83626 (owner: 10Aude) [16:49:45] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Followup tidyup of EntityIdParser [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83654 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:49:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] fix compatibility with site link badge structure [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83626 (owner: 10Aude) [16:53:36] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] add forward compatibility for retrieving item site links [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83625 (owner: 10Aude) [16:53:47] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: add forward compatibility for retrieving item site links [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83625 (owner: 10Aude) [17:02:26] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Force entity IDs to be lower case in wb_changes. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83413 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:03:54] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Force entity IDs to be lower case in wb_changes. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83413 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:04:45] (03PS1) 10Aude: Force entity IDs to be lower case in wb_changes. [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83659 [17:05:09] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Force entity IDs to be lower case in wb_changes. [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83659 (owner: 10Aude) [17:05:16] * aude stabs jenkins [17:08:58] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032 V: 032] Force entity IDs to be lower case in wb_changes. [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83659 (owner: 10Aude) [17:09:18] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Force entity IDs to be lower case in wb_changes. [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83659 (owner: 10Aude) [17:10:01] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [V: 032] ensure correct navigation ids in client for all site groups [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83636 (owner: 10Aude) [17:10:42] Abraham_WMDE: https://packagist.org/packages/scrutinizer/php-analyzer < recommended by the PHPUnit guy [17:10:58] Abraham_WMDE: apparently written by these guys https://scrutinizer-ci.com/ [17:11:12] Which looks like a very interesting service :) [17:11:26] JeroenDeDauw: thx [17:11:29] JeroenDeDauw: indeed [17:11:33] if we can get hosted reporting from all the standard PHP analysis tools... so much win [17:11:41] https://scrutinizer-ci.com/docs/tools/php/ [17:12:10] that would be cool indeed [17:12:41] JeroenDeDauw: the only thing which is a bit strange, that service seems to be an one man show: https://scrutinizer-ci.com/legal-notice [17:12:58] JeroenDeDauw: but if the tool is doing a good job I'm fine with that :) [17:15:28] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [V: 032] fix compatibility with site link badge structure [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf14) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83626 (owner: 10Aude) [17:16:22] Abraham_WMDE: oh noez - its an evil german dude! [17:16:27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Wikidata [17:16:33] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:WikidataCheck [17:16:46] i know the check one is used and the other likely also [17:17:05] the check one does "{{WikidataCheck|property=p343|value={{{id|{{{1|}}}}}}|category=MusicBrainz artist id|namespaces=0}}" [17:17:07] 10[1] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:WikidataCheck [17:17:08] as an example [17:17:13] * aude kicks the bot [17:17:17] Oook [17:19:22] we can just wrap everything in {{uc:}} i guess. [17:19:24] 10[2] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:uc: [17:22:36] heh [17:23:05] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#774 (mw1.22-wmf16 - 25ce1bc : daniel): The build was broken. [17:23:05] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/605c15ff9f7f...25ce1bc152cd [17:23:05] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/11204215 [17:24:10] o_0 [17:24:18] hm, what's the best way to phrase "Please translate this into X"? [17:25:15] YairRand: sounds good to me [17:25:43] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#775 (mw1.22-wmf16 - 08691d1 : Daniel Kinzler): The build was broken. [17:25:43] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/25ce1bc152cd...08691d134219 [17:25:43] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/11204233 [17:26:14] okay, what's the best way to phrase it if probably most people reading it won't actually be able to translate it? [17:27:00] context? [17:28:10] I'm making a template, roughly equivalent to LangSwitch, except it can work without English being filled in, and when the user's language isn't available, it displays all translations, together with an invitation to translate [17:28:30] hmmmm [17:28:59] I'm thinking it could be useful on the property proposals pages and such [17:29:20] I think "please translate this into x" is okay [17:29:27] if most people can't, they won't [17:29:31] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#776 (mw1.22-wmf14 - 1b4d7b2 : aude): The build has errored. [17:29:31] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/c1e96d366a5e...1b4d7b2ac3a4 [17:29:32] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/11204481 [17:29:32] but it's inviting [17:29:33] okay, I'll go with that [17:29:53] anything more is too wordy, in my opinion [17:31:21] TRANSLATE IT [17:33:11] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#776 (mw1.22-wmf14 - 1b4d7b2 : aude): The build has errored. [17:33:11] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/c1e96d366a5e...1b4d7b2ac3a4 [17:33:11] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/11204481 [17:33:27] +1 on Reedy :D [17:33:43] Reedy: Or simply TRANSLATE!!!! [17:33:48] JFDI [17:33:56] NAO [17:33:56] BLOODY TRANSLATE IT! [17:33:58] ! [17:34:11] how inviting [17:34:14] Reedy say 'TRANSLATE OR DIE!' :D [17:34:18] *says [17:34:23] :D [17:34:43] YairRand: Translate or die is the most inviting ofc! :p [17:34:49] :) [17:39:02] anyone here know how to do translation admin stuff? [17:39:37] YairRand: What do you need? [17:39:43] [[Template:Help translate/text/en]] [17:39:44] 10[3] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Help_translate/text/en [17:40:04] aude: hey :) finally at home \o/ [17:40:09] should be translatable through the normal Translate stuff [17:40:14] can you give me a shortstatus update aude? [17:40:19] Alright. [17:41:02] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82837 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:42:10] JohnLewis: Hm, I'm not sure that worked the way it was supposed to... [17:42:51] Lydia_WMDE_: we are verifying that lua will still work [17:42:58] then can deploy [17:42:58] ok [17:43:03] what's going to be in? [17:43:09] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82837 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:43:13] maybe an hour [17:43:24] however long we need, but shouldn't be too long [17:43:34] take your time - just arrived ;-) [17:43:38] ok [17:43:43] how was scotland? [17:43:47] awesome [17:44:01] we shall open UK wikidata office :) [17:44:01] met up with kde friends there and had a really good time [17:44:05] hehe [17:44:09] Lydia_WMDE_: URLs, Badges, and a breaking change to the API :) [17:44:17] badges!? [17:44:19] for real? [17:44:24] rschen7754|away: no UI for them yet [17:44:27] DanielK_WMDE: badges also in the UI? [17:44:27] * aude enjoyed the last day of summer at the beach :) [17:44:27] just backend support# [17:44:29] aww [17:44:32] ok [17:44:40] DanielK_WMDE: so can they be used in any way? [17:44:41] YairRand: How about now? [17:44:43] Lydia_WMDE_: no, sorry. it's a big change in the backend that cause some fallout [17:44:45] that's why i mentioned it [17:44:54] Lydia_WMDE_: in the api [17:45:02] but doesn't do anything other than store them [17:45:10] probably best not to use them yet [17:45:11] Lydia_WMDE_: i think it's possibel to edit them via the api... i'd have to check whether that change got in. [17:45:16] it's in [17:45:19] ok [17:45:20] i have not tested it [17:45:21] JohnLewis: Hm, I don't think so... [17:45:22] thx folks [17:45:32] let me know when it's done then i'll post stuff [17:45:40] YairRand: Hm? [17:45:42] my bot still works with the new code, e.g. adding site links [17:45:56] Lydia_WMDE_: and did you see daniel's mail about api breakage [17:46:11] pywikipedia is already updating for the change [17:46:15] aude: going through inbox [17:46:19] ok [17:46:19] cool [17:46:40] JohnLewis: {{Help translate}} isn't transcludable anymore, and the text itself still isn't translatable, I think [17:46:41] DanielK_WMDE: whoa, I didn't even take DNM off it https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82637 ;) [17:46:42] 10[4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Help_translate [17:46:43] not so fast [17:46:58] YairRand: Let me retry something... [17:47:04] lazowik: oh, ok [17:47:13] * aude saw something about api and badges that was in [17:47:18] or i am crazy :) [17:47:19] fixing getting [17:47:22] (03PS9) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make EntityIdLabelFormatter more flexible [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82869 [17:47:26] (another one...( [17:47:55] actually the sitelinks as a whole were returned badly (always with keys) [17:47:59] https://git.wikimedia.org/commitdiff/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibase.git/a717b7658286de0114d355652094c71149e0250e [17:48:52] YairRand: I know what is wrong :p [17:49:03] Abraham_WMDE: https://scrutinizer-ci.com/g/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Diff/ [17:49:05] wooot [17:49:23] JohnLewis: what is it? [17:49:29] lazowik: looks like it's just get entities [17:49:32] that's fine :) [17:49:35] aude: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82624/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82842/ [17:49:36] YairRand: You'll see in a minute. [17:49:51] but they do not need to go there [17:50:09] things won't break if there are no badges [17:50:09] lazowik: is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82624/ critical? [17:50:13] ok [17:50:24] and this is only for result of setting [17:50:34] and setting doesn't have props for badges [17:50:37] ok, so it can wait for the next branch [17:50:39] so it can't break [17:50:41] yep [17:50:51] I'll probably get editing ready on weekend [17:51:01] not sure though [17:51:09] (api editing) [17:51:16] (03PS10) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing SnakFormatter and SnakFormatterFactory [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82400 [17:51:19] would be good, although understand if you are busy [17:51:35] (03PS10) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make EntityIdLabelFormatter more flexible [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82869 [17:51:41] (03PS7) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 53745) Remove old SnakFormatter. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83090 [17:52:40] aude: yep, already told Lydia_WMDE_ it would be great if you (team) could take it when UI is left [17:52:47] sure [17:52:57] it's great what's done so far :) [17:52:59] (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: (bug 46366) Use SnakFormatter for diffs and summaries [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83091 [17:53:08] :) [17:53:39] lazowik: it was quite amazing to discuver how many things broke when the structure of the sitelinks changed :) [17:53:48] * discover [17:54:11] well, we managed to cleanup a bit of old code [17:54:35] \o/ [17:54:40] EntityId -> the most CRAPiest class -> rewrite & change handling & not localizable diff paths [17:54:52] the most big ones that came up to my mind [17:55:10] though the last one is not fixed [17:55:30] change handling still needs more work but it's slightly better [17:57:41] hello all ! [17:58:10] is there anybody from the dev team because i think i discovered a urgent bug ? [17:58:13] hi thieol2 [17:58:57] hi addshore [17:59:01] thieol2: there's plenty of them (team members, not urgent bugs...) [17:59:18] hopefully :) [17:59:23] thieol2: what's the issue? [17:59:46] lydia it seems that many items are not correctly parsable now.... [17:59:52] thieol2: we know [17:59:58] ok ! [18:00:00] thieol2: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53997 ? [18:00:05] i suppose reedy could update wmf15 now [18:00:15] do you when it will be solved ? [18:00:16] Reedy: around? [18:00:31] soon as reedy is around :) [18:00:35] the fix is ready [18:00:42] ah ok ! thanks ! [18:01:23] Links? [18:01:28] https://git.wikimedia.org/log/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibase.git/refs%2Fheads%2Fmw1.22-wmf14 [18:01:34] if you can pull in the last change there [18:01:42] and https://git.wikimedia.org/log/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibaseDataModel.git/refs%2Fheads%2Fmw1.22-wmf14 [18:02:03] if you want me to submit a patch for submodules, i can though might be easier for you to handle this [18:02:09] ok thanks aude ! i'll have a look and wait for the bug fix then ! [18:02:38] this is all independent of deploying the new branch, which still needs us to verify lua is okay [18:02:52] wmf14? [18:03:07] Reedy: yes, that's what is on the wmf15 core branch [18:06:55] Abraham_WMDE: https://scrutinizer-ci.com/g/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/code-structure/search/worst-rated-operations [18:08:03] * aude is shocked by the report :) [18:10:48] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-2] "The real problem here is that we don't allow access to arbitrary items from arbitrary pages, because we can't track that yet, and without " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62321 (owner: 10Tpt) [18:10:49] JeroenDeDauw: https://scrutinizer-ci.com/g/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/code-structure/search/worst-rated-operations?p=105 > https://scrutinizer-ci.com/g/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/code-structure/search/worst-rated-operations?p=141 [18:11:18] JeroenDeDauw: there are also best rated operations :) [18:11:25] aude: wmf15 updated [18:11:28] the tool is very nice [18:11:44] Abraham_WMDE: hehe, already figrued that out - great minds think alike? :D [18:11:51] :D [18:11:59] Reedy: great [18:12:31] that fixed the rendering of certain items and will be good for the client / dispatching [18:13:19] seems to work now ! congratulationsd ! :-) [18:13:42] \o/ [18:14:11] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 031] "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77146 (owner: 10Nilesh) [18:14:12] * aude steals Lydia_WMDE_ 's pen [18:14:20] noooooooooooooooooooo! [18:14:28] * aude returned it :) [18:16:49] * JohnLewis steals Lydia_WMDE_'s job [18:16:54] :O [18:16:56] :p How do you re act to that :D [18:17:13] * Sven_Manguard steals Lydia_WMDE_'s job from JohnLewis. Wonders whether to keep it or return it. [18:17:28] ninja's [18:17:30] Sven_Manguard: Keep it :p [18:17:30] ninja'd* [18:17:52] I didn't want it that much. I'd have to work with addshore a bit I bet :p [18:18:03] JohnLewis: As your new communications director, I decree op-eds for the newsletter! [18:18:07] go write one [18:18:31] Sven_Manguard: No! You have an interview you can use yourself! :p [18:19:16] Speaking of WMDE staff, can any of them tell me when the URL datatype is going live on Wikidata? [18:19:26] I have sources to source [18:19:38] Sven_Manguard: soon as we deploy [18:20:06] aude: I was looking for September _____ 2013 [18:20:21] is "soon as we deploy" today? tomorrow? [18:20:33] whatever happened with the spam blacklist? i know it's integrated, but i heard some concerns about some items needing to link to blacklisted sites [18:20:35] or "no idea" [18:20:35] addshore: So, wikidatawiki, wikivoyage and 1.22wmf16? [18:20:52] Reedy: old buddy, old pal [18:20:57] how you doing? [18:20:59] Sven_Manguard: No. [18:21:01] JohnLewis: Sven_Manguard: :P [18:21:02] how's life? [18:21:06] when are we deploying? [18:21:18] Sven_Manguard: today [18:21:20] Sven_Manguard: today [18:21:38] YAY [18:21:46] More work to pile on my poor bones [18:22:11] Lydia_WMDE_: Admit it though... If we stole your job you would be slightly happy that you don't HAVE to ever speak with addshore forcefully/workfully :p [18:22:19] ;_; [18:23:22] * Lydia_WMDE_ hugs addshore [18:23:32] * aude getting lua script errors [18:23:35] JohnLewis: nahhh - he's good and very useful ;-) [18:23:58] could be user error [18:24:38] Lydia_WMDE_: You're clearly not talking about the Addshore from the UK then. :D [18:25:09] addshore: Face it. This is what you get for being mean to me :p [18:25:41] Put addshore on the naughty step [18:25:57] JohnLewis: ;-) [18:26:02] Yes, What Reedy said :D [18:26:20] Lydia_WMDE_: I'll go on the record publicly and say if the WMDE is ever hiring someone for a non-coding role, I would totally move to Germany to become Wikidata staff [18:26:22] Lydia_WMDE_: :p [18:26:22] there is no naughty step ;p [18:26:39] addshore: I've been to the office [18:26:43] There are steps! [18:26:45] Sven_Manguard: ;-) noted [18:26:58] addshore: Well... Go to WMUK! They have a naughty office I think with (When I remember their name) in it. [18:27:02] not in the office :O they are not our steps :P [18:27:03] * Lydia_WMDE_ goes and eats something before she collapses [18:27:08] (03PS4) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [18:28:03] Shit, if the sources is coming out today, I need to get to work on setting it up Wikidata side [18:28:43] (03PS5) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [18:28:49] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add .scrutinizer.yml [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83674 [18:29:17] addshore: I think Richard Symonds works in the naughty office :P He could teach you a few... advanced right related things and maybe the odd ArbCom thing if you wanted to from enwiki :p [18:29:28] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add .scrutinizer.yml [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83674 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [18:29:29] Sven_Manguard: Indeed! [18:29:46] JohnLewis: give me a minute, I'm going to set up some stuff [18:30:22] Sven_Manguard: Anything I could help with? Fixing a translation and mocking addshore is all I have done today :p [18:30:25] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:30:53] JohnLewis: What I want to do is create a list of properties that, taken together, are what are needed to replicate a Wikipedia cite web template [18:31:11] so that we can import and export web citations [18:31:14] Ok [18:31:18] eventually... [18:31:30] I was planning to create the properties when the datavalue was released tbh :p [18:31:41] (03PS6) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [18:32:37] Well we have some already [18:32:50] AT /Pending. [18:32:54] I just want to gather them and then note that on project chat [18:33:06] I have yet to see if there are any not listed pending ones. [18:33:17] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:34:08] Cite Web has the following fields [18:34:09] - Last name [18:34:09] 04Error: Command “last” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:11] - First name [18:34:12] - Title (exists on Wikidata) [18:34:14] - URL (will exist soon Wikidata) [18:34:14] 04Error: Command “first” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:15] 04Error: Command “title” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:15] - Work [18:34:17] - Publisher (exists on Wikidata) [18:34:18] ban the bot! [18:34:18] - Access date (exists on Wikidata) [18:34:20] - Date of publication (exists on Wikidata) [18:34:20] 04Error: Command “url” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:20] 04Error: Command “work” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:20] 04Error: Command “publisher” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:20] 04Error: Command “access” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:20] Mar 2013-09-10 18:34:20 UTC -- Mar 2013-09-10 18:34:20 UTC [18:34:29] What do we do about Last, First, and work? [18:34:34] String values? [18:34:39] AsimovBot: shut up! [18:34:40] 04Error: Command “shut” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:45] :D [18:34:46] :) [18:34:48] AsimovBot: shutdown now -g [18:34:48] 04Error: Command “shutdown” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:51] AsimovBot: shutdown now -h [18:34:51] 04Error: Command “shutdown” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [18:34:52] :S [18:34:53] .... [18:34:56] damn! [18:35:32] but that's so funny :D [18:35:34] I'm not able to op on this channel [18:36:38] REEDY! [18:36:46] What the hell am I seeing here [18:37:00] This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. [18:37:02] (show/hide) 20:13, 26 October 2012 Reedy (talk | contribs | block) moved page Main Page to Wikidata:Main Page without leaving a redirect (revert) [18:37:13] So when I click Main Page on the side bar [18:37:17] I get a deleted page message [18:37:36] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Main_Page [18:37:41] Sven_Manguard: Sidebar directs to Wikidata:Main_Page. [18:37:53] JohnLewis: it just didn't do that [18:38:04] otherwise I would not have seen that message [18:38:24] I was at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Works#Video_games , clicked main page, and got to the deleted page [18:38:25] gadgets are messy :/ [18:38:25] hehe [18:38:39] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update scrutinizer config [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83676 [18:38:40] they're doing a/b test with privacy policy banners [18:38:47] bug report: AAaaaAaAAAaaaaAaAAAa! [18:38:49] wmf logo vs a cartoon tiger :) [18:38:52] Sven_Manguard: Don't blame Reedy. Blame all the Wikidata devs! :P [18:39:20] lazowik: That Cartoon tiger happens to be Rory! Show respect and call it by its name! :p [18:39:41] sorry [18:39:55] me is being badly [18:39:57] I'm all for Rory, but I don't like him on the privacy policy page because it stuffs all the text too far to the rigth [18:40:00] right* [18:40:54] (03PS7) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [18:42:31] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:44:55] how does it come I didn't know Rory before [18:44:58] shame on me [18:45:12] lazowik: Because... You never looked into LCA? [18:45:19] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add docs [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83677 [18:45:53] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Update scrutinizer config [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83676 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [18:46:02] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add docs [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83677 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [18:46:20] JohnLewis: nah, I've witten that a few times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowest_common_ancestor :) [18:46:44] alright, i got lua working [18:46:46] lazowik: :p Legal and Community Advocacy is what I meant :) [18:46:52] almost ready..... [18:47:04] for..... [18:47:09] deployment [18:47:12] :D [18:47:21] my patch that fixed rendering of those pages, it also fixed lua [18:47:31] ah, you should form a choir! [18:47:34] :) [18:47:57] now to make sure lua works with entity ids (uppercase or lowercase) [18:48:06] aude: still something to be merged or is everything in? [18:48:13] * addshore twiddles his thumbs while reading too much js [18:48:33] addshore: Ready too_little.js [18:49:06] *Read [18:49:11] Tobi_WMDE: still need to approve one last thing [18:49:50] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update scrutinizer config [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83679 [18:50:06] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Update scrutinizer config [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83679 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [18:50:08] (03PS8) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [18:52:02] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:52:34] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update scrutinizer config [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83681 [18:52:44] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Update scrutinizer config [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83681 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [18:52:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Update scrutinizer config [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83681 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [18:53:08] so looks like 5 gadgets will break currently [18:53:15] oh no! [18:53:21] 3 less than earlier :P [18:53:34] 4 of them are Magnus's scripts :P [18:53:43] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Allow serializers to use upper and/or lower case ids, as needed. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83638 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [18:53:57] so is there going to be a b/c fix for lua? or should i just start fixing templates now [18:54:01] now to wait for jenkins and cherry pick [18:54:15] legoktm: it's backwards compatible for now, but they should be fixed [18:54:19] aude: When do you want to do this? [18:54:24] (03PS9) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [18:54:27] (note: not on wikipedia until tomorrow when we deploy there) [18:54:34] aude: ok, so ill do that once its deployed [18:54:35] Reedy: soon as i cherry pick and update the branch [18:54:38] ok :) [18:54:51] legoktm: tpt has an example on test2 on what to do [18:54:58] ill take a look :) [18:55:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Allow serializers to use upper and/or lower case ids, as needed. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83638 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [18:56:33] (03PS10) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 [18:56:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Introduction of FetchedEntityContentSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83646 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:57:02] JohnLewis: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#URL_datatype_is_coming_online_today.2C_we_need_to_be_ready_to_replicate_cite_web_citations [18:57:16] *everyone* above link, please contribute ASAP [18:57:30] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add scrutinizer config [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83682 [18:57:31] Sven_Manguard: is this standard across many wikipedias? [18:57:32] * JohnLewis points Sven_Manguard to his channel where he stalks PC [18:57:35] I'd like to resolve this before the property goes live or at the very least, very shortly after [18:57:39] rschen7754|away: can you check [18:57:46] hmmmm, i can't do a clean cherry pick [18:58:07] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5637226 [18:58:21] that seems like a yes then [18:58:27] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-2] "Should not be merged until the guid generation issue is solved." [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81671 (owner: 10Addshore) [18:59:46] Sven_Manguard: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Cita_web seems pretty similar [19:00:14] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Needs tests" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72226 (owner: 10Liangent) [19:00:15] DanielK_WMDE: You around? [19:00:19] 'URL datatype is coming online today' Lydia_WMDE_, Sven beat you to your announcement of that :( [19:00:29] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81001 (owner: 10Liangent) [19:01:15] Sven_Manguard: would have been nice to wait tbh [19:01:41] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add scrutinizer config [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83685 [19:01:52] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add scrutinizer config [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83682 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [19:02:01] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add scrutinizer config [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83685 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [19:02:20] (03PS1) 10Aude: Allow serializers to use upper and/or lower case ids, as needed. [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83686 [19:02:22] Lydia_WMDE_: oh, shit, sorry [19:02:26] that didn't occour to me [19:02:35] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032 V: 032] Allow serializers to use upper and/or lower case ids, as needed. [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83686 (owner: 10Aude) [19:04:11] Lydia_WMDE_: through the power of admin abuse I've revision deleted the word "today" in favor of the word "soon" [19:04:18] please accept my forgiveness [19:04:27] heh [19:04:28] thx [19:05:02] hah! [19:05:21] "the power of admin abuse", helping admins avoid awkward situations since 2001 (TM) [19:05:32] ^^ [19:06:10] Sven_Manguard: So you do it, nothing happens, I do, A RfC happens? Not fair :( [19:06:44] JohnLewis: this is Wikidata. We're not that crazy. [19:06:44] DanielK_WMDE: is it better or worse to have Utils::getLanguageCodes( 'for read' ) and Utils::getLanguageCodes( 'for write' )? [19:07:01] If you want crazy, there is Wikipedia [19:07:17] is magnus ever on irc? [19:07:25] Sven_Manguard: I would go Wikipedia, but they have common sense to not let me have sysop :p [19:07:33] addshore: Only if you ask him ;-) [19:07:56] infact, what timezone is he in? [19:07:56] one sec..... [19:07:59] :P [19:08:03] JohnLewis: Two people have told me that they were willing to nominate me for enWiki admin in the past week [19:08:04] DanielK_WMDE: want to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83416/ ? [19:08:05] I said no [19:08:10] or addshore [19:08:22] without that we will see some errors [19:08:35] Sven_Manguard: I was told to run for Admin by a some what well known user. [19:08:44] addshore: UK [19:08:56] multichill: ahh :) whats the best way to contact him? [19:09:04] Email [19:09:05] Truthfully, I'd consider running if not for my commitments to Wikidata [19:09:13] *goes to write an email* [19:09:30] I am not going to thought Sven_Manguard :p Never will accept a nom on enwiki end of. :) [19:09:49] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#778 (mw1.22-wmf16 - e30be0a : daniel): The build is still failing. [19:09:49] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/08691d134219...e30be0a84bea [19:09:49] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/11208503 [19:11:10] for master, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83416/ can be nicer [19:11:14] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032] (bug 53367) ensure both sites and titles for GetEntities lookup by site link [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83416 (owner: 10Aude) [19:11:26] but don't want to interfere with addshore 's refactoring [19:11:29] Also Sven_Manguard, Revdel :p The 80-90 admins can still see so... yeah :p [19:11:43] i think most of what is in execute() there should be factored out with tests [19:11:44] JohnLewis: most admins are here anyways [19:11:56] and saw the conversation above [19:11:58] so yeah [19:12:16] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Do not run code coverage as we can still not do a full Composer install with MW [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83688 [19:12:31] (03PS1) 10Daniel Werner: Performance improvement in FetchedEntityContentSerializer::getSerialized [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83689 [19:12:54] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032 V: 032] Do not run code coverage as we can still not do a full Composer install with MW [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83688 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [19:12:54] Sven_Manguard: I could unrevdel it :p So yeah [19:13:12] jenkins will probably say "no" on the branch [19:13:17] DanielK_WMDE: ^ [19:13:20] JohnLewis: I could block you for wheel warring, then have myself desysoped for taking admin actions while involved, so yeah :S [19:13:39] sent magnus and email [19:13:52] addshore: St. Manske? [19:13:54] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 53367) ensure both sites and titles for GetEntities lookup by site link [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83416 (owner: 10Aude) [19:13:58] Sven_Manguard: So... I get blocked and you lose admin... Hm... Sure! I'll unrevdel :p [19:14:04] aude: conflict with what refacotirng? :P [19:14:42] addshore: i don't know [19:14:43] JohnLewis: go ahead, make my day [19:14:48] aude hah! [19:14:55] Sven_Manguard :( I won't [19:14:56] but that bit of code is not tested and ugly [19:15:00] good [19:15:31] does anyone want to remove jenkins and verify https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83416/ ? [19:15:55] * aude verified it [19:17:25] hi people [19:17:32] hi MatmaRex [19:17:39] does wikidata have no property for real name / full name? why? [19:18:58] MatmaRex: I imagine it would come under aliases if the item was about a perosn [19:19:35] sure, but there can be other aliases as well [19:21:07] indeed :P [19:23:34] hm, i've just found P735 and P734, which seem to be given name and surname [19:24:03] sound like what you might be looking for! [19:24:11] which are being considered for deletion, it seems. :P [19:24:39] (and don't seem to actually be used) [19:25:18] heh [19:25:35] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [V: 032] (bug 53367) ensure both sites and titles for GetEntities lookup by site link [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.22-wmf16) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83416 (owner: 10Aude) [19:25:41] yay! [19:26:30] Reedy: ok, everything is in the branch [19:26:40] only question is if it's better to wait until i get home and eat [19:26:59] in case, unlikely event, there is a bug for me to fix [19:29:08] also note https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83637/ for config change, although it is not essential [19:31:19] Lydia_WMDE_: Tracking/purging, where is that on your roadmap right now? [19:32:23] multichill: it is needed for access to arbitrary information and that is being worked on - unfortunately don't have more info, sorry [19:32:29] maybe DanielK_WMDE has more [19:33:05] Lydia_WMDE_: i already told him. the eta is uncertain. [19:33:11] ok [19:33:32] * aude has not started work on it yet, but it's important on our todo [19:33:32] Lydia_WMDE_: the thing is: access is easy, tracking & purging is hard. multichill wants the random access *now*, without tracking & purging. [19:33:41] heh [19:33:42] i'm afraid it will lead to a lot of confusion [19:33:56] yes - let's not do that [19:34:00] DanielK_WMDE: *now* is a bit too much, but I rather have access to it on Commons without the tracking/purging than not at all [19:34:11] Lydia_WMDE_: so i told him he needs to convince you that enabling random item access without tracking is a good idea :) [19:34:18] hehe [19:34:37] It's already a huge step from going from a static bot completely outdated system to a automatic maybe a bit outdated system [19:34:48] multichill: probably not a great idea [19:35:07] aude: I'd rather wait too [19:35:12] sure [19:35:14] multichill: it's a "some parts are automatic others are broken" system... [19:35:27] multichill: i totally see why it'd be useful but i don't think it outweights the cons atm :( [19:35:35] But I would hate to see the whole discussion turning into: Let's link Commons categories with WIkipedia articles [19:35:46] gah, my mind is turning to mush [19:35:48] going home [19:35:49] multichill: i dont think that will happen ;p [19:35:50] heh [19:36:07] i hope.. if it does i may have to write some sort of essay [19:36:08] addshore: People will wait if we can say that this is on the roadmap [19:36:23] First question would be: When? [19:36:43] multichill: when it's ready :) [19:36:50] * aude does not have a crystal ball [19:37:11] * lazowik gives aude a crystal ball [19:37:17] there you go [19:37:25] Most people don't seem to have a good overview. Like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P373 , of course that's not going to stay around forever [19:37:26] addshore: rain? what about this type of rain? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HWBvnqO8ihg [19:37:41] That's just a step in the right direction.... [19:38:23] greg-g: Reedy poke [19:38:39] * JohnLewis gives lazowik a crystal ball as a replacement [19:38:58] JohnLewis: thanks no need though [19:39:03] 've got plenty of them :) [19:39:06] It's like trying to learn a baby to run, without first learning to crawl and walk..... [19:39:07] :O [19:39:22] but shh, don't tell anyone! [19:40:35] legoktm: Did you check pywikipedia for the lower/uppercase thingie? [19:40:50] multichill: i saw some patches for pywikipedia to handle that [19:41:03] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#781 (mw1.22-wmf16 - edc709a : Daniel Kinzler): The build is still failing. [19:41:03] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/e30be0a84bea...edc709a3d65e [19:41:03] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/builds/11209251 [19:41:05] * aude not really qualified to review them but they looked ok [19:44:37] aude: it's lunch time! ;) [19:44:58] Reedy: ok [19:45:09] i can be available again in an hour or so [19:45:23] * aude should eat and go home [19:46:06] aude: What timezone are you guys in? :P [19:46:12] aude: same, magnus is making his gadgets case insensitive now :) [19:46:21] home and food sounds like a good plan xD [19:46:23] multichill: utc+2 [19:46:41] That's your physical timezone, I meant your mental one ;-) [19:46:55] night all [19:47:04] multichill: probably same, though just came back from utc+1 :) [19:47:29] alright, back in ~1 hour [19:47:37] Later A & A [19:47:54] Lydia_WMDE_: You got quite a few comments at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Interwiki_links_via_Wikidata_coming_soon [19:48:39] multichill: will check but might need until tomorrow - not working at full brain capacity atm [19:48:48] no rush [20:09:52] aude ? [20:18:35] multichill: yes, we fixed it for pwb already [20:18:46] hi pragunbhutani .. how are you doing? Is GSOC still ongoing? [20:19:02] hello hoo ! [20:19:12] Yes, we're heading towards the soft-pencils down date now [20:20:28] ah :) I'm rather out of Wikidata atm, so I didn't manage to follow up ;) [20:20:46] hoo: oh I see [20:21:01] wait a minute, let me fetch you a link to show you the prgoress [20:21:13] hoo: http://wikidata-mobile-tester.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page [20:21:19] remember to switch to mobile view! [20:22:51] ok, nice legoktm [20:23:56] pragunbhutani: Ah... is it supposed to not let my see the sitelinks? [20:24:08] hoo: oh I forgot to mention [20:24:14] I'm working with hard coded html right now [20:24:38] the next thing which I'm supposed to work on is getting the actual html from Wikidata [20:24:47] which, I don't think is going to be a huge task [20:25:03] that reminds me, I should mock up the site links as well [20:28:56] :) [20:34:21] hoo: I've done a little more work on the styles and the scripts but haven't pushed that to the labs instance yet [20:34:26] it'll be there soon! :) [20:50:39] aude: you back? [20:55:40] aude, Reedy: how is it going? [20:55:47] It's not currently [20:56:33] Reedy: you are scaring me :) what did we break? [20:56:44] We've not started [20:56:51] AFAIK aude isn't back online yet [20:57:00] oh? huh [20:57:12] i though she'd be back much sooner than me. i took my time getting home [20:59:17] An error has occurred while searching: HTTP request timed out. [20:59:54] It was lunch time just before she left [21:10:07] :0 [21:10:28] We left the office an hour ago, at least :p [21:11:31] She will probably be around any minute :) [21:16:26] * aude waves :) [21:16:40] DanielK_WMDE: stopped to get dinner [21:17:27] hi pragunbhutani [21:24:53] (03PS38) 10Liangent: Include preferred labels / descriptions for entities in JS on EntityView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72226 [21:25:30] hello aude [21:25:47] I wasn't sure I'd be able to run into you at this hour :) [21:26:09] (03PS39) 10Liangent: Include preferred labels / descriptions for entities in JS on EntityView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72226 [21:28:27] (03PS40) 10Liangent: Include preferred labels / descriptions for entities in JS on EntityView [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72226 [21:29:55] pragunbhutani: we're deploying code :) [21:30:07] aude: oh cool [21:30:29] I need to talk to you about getting the actual html from Wikidata now [21:30:33] assuming there are no issues (unlikely), then i can help look at getting access to the data in the skin [21:30:36] tomorrow [21:30:51] okay, then I'll ping you at the start of the day tomorrow [21:30:59] danwe might help also or might have ideas [21:31:03] ok [21:31:12] I've been working on styles and scripts and I think they're coming along just fine :) [21:31:17] great :) [21:31:26] the last i looked, it was very nice [21:31:53] it's now responsive and flexi-width [21:32:17] I've uploaded that to the labs instance [21:32:40] I've also written some scripts for the skin since, but those haven't been pulled to the instance [21:35:32] pragunbhutani: sounds good [21:35:47] aude: see you tomorrow then [21:35:51] good night :) [21:36:09] ok [21:37:48] Reedy: poke [21:38:06] Just going to the 6th floor [21:38:08] then we can start [21:38:22] ok [21:38:24] no hurry [21:50:37] slowwwwww [21:50:43] :/ [21:50:54] localisation update is running.. [21:51:05] yeah [21:51:26] Oh, Chris apparently [21:52:22] * aude can wait until it's done [21:52:33] no localisation update needed for wikibase [22:00:46] Reedy: aude: Any chance it's going to be finished in the next 30 minues? [22:00:53] minutes* [22:01:03] It's still running but not syncing [22:01:17] no idea what that means [22:01:19] When we're pushing 0.5GB of date to hundreds of server, their is the fight for bandwidth [22:02:43] aude: Did you commit anything to wmf16? [22:02:59] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83687/ [22:03:06] yay [22:05:43] Reedy: also https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83637/ though not critical [22:08:53] Reedy: using bittorrent to solve that problem would be neat :) [22:08:59] can we rename the String datatype to "NonlingualString datatype" (per MultilingualString, MonolingualString ...)? I'm pretty sure the current name confuses a lot of people into thinking they can just put whatever text into it. [22:09:08] I'm not sure bittorrent would be the best solution [22:09:25] Tim improved the process by making it not all come from one host [22:09:49] Sync to N servers, then get other servers to pick a server in N and pull it from there [22:09:52] Reedy: probably not the best, since it doesn't take into account network tolopgy. [22:10:12] yea, i was just going to say that: a single source box is bad, since everything has to go through one wire [22:10:26] well, gigabit, so 8 ;) [22:10:42] But yeah [22:10:44] Anyway [22:10:52] Are we ok to upgrade wikivoyage and wikidatawiki? [22:11:52] there are some forwards-compat patches to be deployed to the wikipedias... [22:11:58] these should go out first, no? [22:13:10] just one, i think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83625/ [22:13:12] aude: ? [22:14:15] Reedy: we are ready [22:14:23] :D [22:14:43] wikipedia is already updated [22:14:53] hence the broken items render once again [22:16:05] Done... [22:16:14] :) [22:16:21] * aude see if my bot breaks [22:16:31] it should not break [22:17:24] "undefined index: q14875399" [22:17:25] :/ [22:21:46] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P854 [22:22:39] url property is created by me:) [22:22:55] and example https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1163721&diff=69570695&oldid=66623288 [22:23:26] Cool! [22:23:34] Now we just need to figure out sourcing. [22:25:14] D [22:25:15] :D [22:25:24] Sven_Manguard: To India? [22:25:34] ? [22:25:35] I kind of thought we figured out sourcing after that RFC in June... [22:25:45] YairRand: link please [22:25:52] and I have to go in 5 mins, so quickly please [22:26:32] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Source_items_and_supporting_Wikipedia_sources [22:26:58] also https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/References_and_sources [22:29:39] aude: Reedy: good to write announcement now with URL, batches via api and api breakage? [22:31:14] Lydia_WMDE_: think so [22:31:23] ok cool [22:31:25] this was rather uneventful :) [22:31:28] heh [22:31:34] * aude updating my bot code [22:31:57] addshore fixed some of the gadgets but people are more than welcome to report other issues they find [22:32:55] As far as I can tell they should all be fixed [22:32:58] Lydia_WMDE_: about badges [22:33:10] it's not fully supported yet [22:33:14] only in get entities [22:33:19] got it [22:33:37] Magnus may still have 4 of his to go, should all be done by tomorrow morning [22:33:39] so i'd wait until next time, though it's possible people will notice the new site link structure somewhere [22:33:47] like in the api (e.g. edit entity maybe) [22:34:01] anywhere that they have to give raw json data [22:34:04] ok i will leave it out [22:34:07] ok [22:34:30] people hopefully should not notice [22:34:59] Night all :-) [22:35:03] night! [22:37:30] aude, Reedy: thanks for making this a boring deployment :) [22:38:25] :) [22:38:27] huh. if I'm remembering correctly, typically when we get a whole new cool feature, the scene is like that part of toy story 3 where everyone is introduced to sunnyside, ie everyone shouts "New code!" and jumps on it. [22:38:45] ("new toys!") [22:38:58] YairRand: lol [22:39:07] \o/ [22:39:31] woooh "(‎Created claim: coordinate location (P625): 46.4719, -64.7249)" [22:43:07] I updated news now [22:43:25] thanks DangSunM [22:46:09] so what's next? [22:49:15] make a talk page of P854 and work to adding P854 [22:49:42] alright folks - time for me to get some sleep [22:49:45] good night :) [22:50:22] Lydia_WMDE_> night [22:50:35] Lydia_WMDE_ good night:) [23:01:14] P856 [23:01:18] also created [23:11:16] DangSunM: Q95 (Google) doesn't actually have a URL, I think, as that item is about the company, not the website. [23:11:40] so than move to google search? [23:12:11] yeah [23:12:16] okok [23:13:16] huh, the url data still doesn't support protocol-relative links? that'll be a bit problematic in some cases. [23:13:19] done [23:16:40] YairRand: they are equivalent to external links in wikitext. no protocol relative links there either. [23:16:57] (to be picky, relative links of any kind arn't urls) [23:17:05] hm? wikitext allows protocol-relative links, doesn't it? [23:17:39] YairRand: in [//link syntax]? would be new to me. though i havn't tried, to be honest [23:17:40] * DanielK_WMDE tries [23:17:57] also, it looks like the new update broke statement edit summaries. no value is being displayed after the property. [23:18:12] that's going to get annoying [23:18:57] YairRand: seems it does now, when using []: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Duesentrieb/Sandbox [23:19:18] i'm still not very happy about the idea... well, let's see. [23:19:50] YairRand: the update was suppose to improve edit summaries a lot... if it broke something, please report it. [23:21:11] I tried to test funkey urls [23:21:23] like http://백괴사전.org [23:22:01] doesn't working [23:22:57] DangSunM: hm, odd - it should be using the same regex as the wikitext parser. but apparently it isn't. [23:23:04] please report it on bugzilla.wikimedia.org [23:23:41] YairRand: from looking at recentchanges, it seems this does work for geo-coordinates and urls, at least. for item references, the value seems to be missing :/ [23:23:46] addshore: got an idea about that? [23:23:51] what part I should going? [23:24:29] YairRand: if no values are ever shown for item references, please report [23:26:09] DangSunM: did it for you: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54004 [23:26:39] should I file a bug for the issue with edit summaries? [23:26:40] thanks:) I don't know how to use bugzila now [23:28:00] YairRand: I'll do it [23:28:22] DanielK_WMDE: thanks [23:30:16] YairRand: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54005 [23:56:39] now i'm off. see you!