[00:42:46] multichill: er, what do you mean? [02:59:23] hi peoples, i see on commons the announcement -- so i added commonscat to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5100246 [02:59:38] and when i got to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Relations_of_China_and_Mexico there's no interwiki link [02:59:49] and when i try to add it using the given link on commons, nothing [03:00:31] hello [03:00:40] so uh [03:00:44] the commons cat property [03:00:49] is not actual commons linking [03:01:12] russavia: you'd scroll down to "Wikimedia Commons page linked to this item" and add the category there [03:01:13] Butttttt [03:01:20] I'm not sure what the guidelines are. [03:01:29] so er yeah. [03:01:44] so er yeah sums it up nicely lol [03:01:51] so what exactly is this supposed to do? [03:01:53] to be honest, the community kinda screwed this deployment up [03:01:54] i'm lost with it [03:02:22] russavia: heh, not sure yet [03:02:32] we kinda didnt really plan out with the commons community properly. [03:03:43] ok, so we will continue to add wikilinks using your tool? [03:03:49] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#So.2C_how_do_we_fix_this.3F [03:04:03] russavia: probably the best solution for now. [03:10:54] ok thanks guys [03:19:05] hey russavia - so thanks for venturing over to help, but we botched this royally [03:19:23] is it an easy fix? [03:19:31] it could be worse, it could be visual editor [03:28:01] russavia: give me a second [03:29:04] "The project as a whole suffers from a critical lack of willingness to discuss things. Participation rates at most Requests for Commons are bad. Participation rates at Properties for deletion discussions are outright abysmal. Major decisions, from how new datatypes are implemented to bot approvals, are conducted in IRC channels, far too often including the admin-only channel, because many of... [03:29:05] ...the most active users (myself included) have come to the unpleasant realization that IRC is the only place where you can get a half dozen people to discuss an issue within a reasonable amount of time. We have project critical RfCs that have been open for several months, and in the absence of a community consensus on those issues, people are just doing what they think makes sense, even if... [03:29:08] ...they wind up contradicting each other." [03:29:09] there [03:29:10] that [03:29:14] so, no, not an easy fix [03:32:26] ok, i'll leave it in your capable hands :) [03:32:51] ooh, a new thread on the project chat [04:59:39] the sheer amount of spam in India related articles is staggering [05:09:56] PinkAmpersand: You around? I need someone that speaks French to list an fr.wiki article for deletion [05:23:34] Sven: he's not around [05:23:40] and I'm not familiar w/ frwiki policy [05:24:18] presumably they're against transparent spam [05:24:45] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schobrunn [05:27:47] I know an frwiki admin who uses IRC occasionally [06:31:59] (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Improved snaklistview styling [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85676 [06:35:53] Jemand von WMDE da? [06:40:54] can a user help me a moment with wikidata? [07:35:25] Guten Morgen [07:35:36] I am going to upgrade Jenkins -:D [07:41:24] Guten Morgen o_O you speak german o_O [07:52:50] Lydia_WMDE: thanks again for the summit room :D (wish I could have stolen the cushions ;) ) [08:05:13] Why it is not possible to link a cat+gallery on commons?? [08:06:03] if you put category on it,you cannot put gallery? [08:07:06] *ping* Lydia WMDE ? [08:18:37] Steinsplitter: you can put only one link (a category or a gallery) [08:19:54] reosarevok: you're welcome :D [08:20:15] but we need to link from cat+gallery to wp :/ this is a great problem [08:20:18] Steinsplitter: yes - only one link to either gallery or category [08:20:28] why? [08:20:34] wikidata dos not respect our local policy [08:21:08] it's always been like that and it's been communicated like that [08:21:19] wikidata can only deal with one page per wiki per item [08:22:24] :/ [08:29:30] Lydia_WMDE: which is a problem in many other places :( [08:30:11] i question the "many" ;-) but yes this is why we allow local links still [08:30:40] heh [08:30:44] either way it's not going to change since it is such a fundamental assumption built into the system [08:30:49] I mean, in theory it's the right approach [08:31:09] It's just all those pesky wikipedians probably won't be willing to change how they organise things :( [08:31:15] :p [08:31:33] * aude thinks people will come up with solutions to make it work [08:31:43] * reosarevok hopes aude is right :) [08:31:53] multichill is working on stuff [08:32:33] it's easier for bots to maintain the stuff (with data in wikidata), where wikidata can't automatically do a particular thing [08:32:36] or with lua [08:36:01] Lydia_WMDE: everything is okay now :) [08:36:11] :) [08:38:25] did I use the Commons thing correctly here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34189 ? [08:40:06] (think I did) [08:40:43] looks okay :) [08:56:29] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Use cucumber for sitelink tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83651 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:02:03] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use cucumber for sitelink tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83651 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [09:07:27] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/09/pablo-neruda-poet-and-politician-from.html [09:30:23] is action=wblinktitles considered a hack or something? it doesn't look like a preliminary / elementary action in wikibase data model concept [09:30:24] addshore: ^ [09:35:21] liangent: it was considered necessary for the client widget. basically, saying "i want to connect this page to that page" and the backend figured it all out [09:47:07] Denny_WMDE: http://triton.aquila.uberspace.de/wiki/wd.JPG ooops O_O bug? [09:49:10] hmmmm [09:49:12] Steinsplitter: thanks for reporting. looks like a bug that is on commons?. [09:49:23] jepp. i cannot select a language/wiki [09:49:25] probably commons should not have the widget [09:49:28] get this error [09:50:07] yep, it is a bug [09:50:38] the setup for commons is a bit non-standard for the widget to handle currently :/ [09:55:19] Steinsplitter, aude: made a bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54497 [09:56:13] we'll disable the widget for now on commons, until it is fixed [09:56:15] thanks [09:56:30] might take a few hours to get the config change deployed [10:01:00] Denny_WMDE: ok and another issue is that its logic is not reusable without calling api internally with a FauxRequest [10:02:12] yes, the API has an unfortunate amount of such unreusable logic :( [10:02:26] just curious, where do you want to reuse it? [10:03:58] Denny_WMDE: doing linktitle in php [10:04:13] Denny_WMDE: see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54495 [10:40:30] ok, understood [10:40:38] maybe leave it our for now… liangent^ [12:13:33] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "(11 comments)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84346 (owner: 10Nilesh) [12:16:21] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Uh, having two separate suggester data sets requires is to actually physically install the webapp twice? Seriously? Ugh." [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85536 (owner: 10Nilesh) [12:20:15] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032 V: 032] "merging for alpha testin" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85536 (owner: 10Nilesh) [12:25:56] (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Added the old wikiparser InputFormat files to be used with the Python Hadoop scripts. [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85539 (owner: 10Nilesh) [12:39:59] Lydia_WMDE: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gentleman%20and%20a%20scholar [12:44:14] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Would be good to mention the license of the "borrowed" code. All I could find was a statement on http://lintool.github.io/Cloud9/ saying "" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85539 (owner: 10Nilesh) [12:44:26] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032 V: 032] Added the old wikiparser InputFormat files to be used with the Python Hadoop scripts. [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85539 (owner: 10Nilesh) [12:53:10] any wikidata admins here? [12:54:21] Lydia_WMDE: around? [12:54:33] matanya: hey [12:54:36] wasup? [12:55:09] hi there Lydia_WMDE. I saw you enabled commons on wikidata, it doesn't work for me :( [12:55:28] not good! [12:55:32] what is not working exactly? [12:55:41] can't add commons as the site [12:55:57] where are you trying to do it? what happens exactly? [12:56:07] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q212772 [12:56:20] try to add commons category as an interwiki link [12:56:27] ok [12:56:57] worked for me [12:57:10] did you get an error? [12:57:41] A ) ok, i'm officaly stupid [12:57:55] awwww [12:57:59] b) it didn't work after i finished being stupid [12:58:00] i'm sure you're not [12:58:05] heh [12:58:06] now i know why [12:58:09] ok [12:58:10] tell [12:58:53] my practice: go to a wiki, copy the title, add new item paste save, done [12:59:24] I tried to add a new item in the wikipedia list to an item of commons [12:59:33] ohhhhh [12:59:34] ok [12:59:37] which of course doesn't exist [12:59:37] that will not work :D [12:59:40] right [13:00:05] then, i tried to edit in the correct section [13:00:24] but no commons lang exists [13:00:40] so i guessed it would be commons or commonswiki [13:00:46] or encommons [13:00:54] not good in guessing [13:01:14] since it is a closed list, it should just be a drop down i guess [13:01:44] or, if we plan to add more commons langs in the future, implement it someother way [13:01:50] yeah we need to improve that - katie is working on that :) [13:02:11] anyway, I guess less seasoned editors will suffer more [13:02:19] (03PD1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 54319) Introduce order-aware array comparer [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85845 [13:02:27] yes - it's still a bit messy still [13:02:36] but it'll sort itself out soon enough i hope :) [13:02:52] on the other hand, fixing stuff based on my imperssion isn't the best approche either :) [13:03:19] (03PD3) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 54319) Show diff when order of snaks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85844 [13:04:05] i'm no UI designer, but i think seperating wikivy and commons is no the right desicion [13:04:21] so, Lydia_WMDE this is my cent :) thanks for your time! [13:04:30] always :) [13:04:36] * Lydia_WMDE takes notes [13:04:55] and this is a very long vandalism not reverted : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pooeater99 [13:05:22] :/ [13:05:53] I should spend more time around wikidata [13:06:11] * matanya punishes matanya [13:06:22] hehe [13:09:13] addshore: your bot is merging interwikis on commons? i think we need a bot? [13:11:30] i agree Steinsplitter this applies to legoktm too [13:12:10] matanya: ok, you and legoktm need to open a Bot request on commons or is no need? [13:12:24] should [13:32:27] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "(6 comments)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84463 (owner: 10Nilesh) [13:45:04] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 032 V: 032] "merging for experimentation" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/77070 (owner: 10Nilesh) [14:42:34] teste [14:42:45] O_O [14:48:36] jeblad: SPAM! [14:55:31] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 54493) Extend cucumber sitelink tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85856 [15:03:23] (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (bug 54493) Extend cucumber sitelink tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85856 [15:11:04] (03PS1) 10Daniel Werner: Moved 'jquery.valueview.MessageProvider' dependency into the right module [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85857 [15:20:49] Its a jeblad! [15:24:03] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] (bug 54319) Introduce order-aware array comparer [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85845 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [15:36:34] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Improve names, fix version number and update rel notes [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85861 [15:37:51] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "Needs changes in follow up to be correct. Generally looks good, though I'm currently to tired to do a full review. Will do so tomorrow or " [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85845 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [15:57:19] Denny_WMDE1: I see two slides, and niether of them has a lolcat? :( [15:58:48] thanks for the reminder JeroenDeDauw :) [16:01:05] * aude loves some of the geohack params.... -33.87230_N_151.19896_E :) [16:01:45] sweet :) [16:01:51] i am off for today [16:01:56] later! [16:02:27] * aude wonders how wikidata parses that [16:03:04] "no valid value recognized" [16:14:35] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikidata blubbbbb :):):) [16:27:46] Steinsplitter: I just updated the properties table :) [16:28:04] :):) [16:39:50] TomT0m: I have no idea what you meant in your last post to the project chat? [17:00:31] (03PS1) 10Daniel Werner: Fix for failing tests (MockViewState no instance of ViewState) [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85881 [17:02:07] JeroenDeDauw: ^^ review please [17:07:04] Sven_Manguard, does my answer makes things any better ? [17:10:21] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Fix for failing tests (MockViewState no instance of ViewState) [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85881 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [17:11:56] no, not really [17:12:04] can you make an example in testwiki? [17:15:30] Sven_Manguard, if we know Paris is a city, we should easily be able to suggest to the user it has a number of inhabitants [17:16:07] oh, wait, so you mean we determine what kind of article something is, and from that suggest a list of properties that the Wikidata item should have? [17:17:40] Sven_Manguard, we can do better than that, but it's an important feature we should have yes. To do that, we have to associate the list of property (and more) to the item, and we call that a model [17:18:32] TomT0m: I've been trying that at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard/Best_practices_guide_for_video_game_items [17:18:57] which is about 33% done [17:19:56] Sven_Manguard, great, but unfortunately you do that alone in your personal space, we need to think that at the project scale, how this articulates with subclass/instance of properties ... [17:20:38] TomT0m: well once I get that going, I intend to have it as a model for people to work off of. Somone else does one for people, or buildings, or music singles, etc [17:20:45] DanielK_WMDE: http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.bc.php [17:20:46] Sven_Manguard, roughly I think that kind of propositions should be the basis of proposals, not "property" [17:21:47] Sven_Manguard, plus we need to have a formalism so that bots can read this model and checks that it is used by the statements [17:22:08] this is what I try to do in the constraint RfC [17:23:14] and to make better suggestion, for example with a gadget that understands the formalism [17:34:36] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] "No obvious design issues" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84768 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:34:52] (03PS15) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Factoring formatting logic out of Summary class [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84313 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [17:50:36] (03CR) 10Nilesh: "(6 comments)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84463 (owner: 10Nilesh) [17:50:37] (03PS5) 10Daniel Werner: Got rid of "private" callback parameter in jQuery.ui.inputextender's draw [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79153 [17:54:23] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84313 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [18:01:46] Lydia_WMDE: can I make a comment about the search? [18:02:11] Sven_Manguard: sure? [18:02:56] what's the current logic behind the order that results appear? Because I can't see one? [18:03:11] you mean in the sugestions in the box at the top right? [18:03:27] well that I know is bonkers [18:03:29] they are ordered by number of sitelinks plus some magic for exact hits [18:03:39] but I was asking for when I use the search bar and search [18:03:45] oh that [18:03:50] that is broken [18:03:55] Yeah [18:03:55] ignore it :P [18:03:59] when I search for https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=stargate&redirs=1&profile=default [18:04:05] it'll be better when the new search is live [18:04:15] it is in testing on test.wikidata.org now [18:04:38] So search for "stargate" - I'd like to get all the entries that are actually exactly called "stargate" before I get anything else [18:05:08] or is there a better marking system than putting it in quotes to get 'exactly this' [18:05:33] no i don't think so [18:05:39] it's simply broken [18:05:51] i hope we can have the new search soon on the main site [18:06:11] why not use the suggestions though? [18:06:13] it's rather hard to do disambiguations when all of the same titled items are scattered across 17 pages of search results [18:06:18] Lydia_WMDE: because what I' [18:06:29] oh [18:06:30] Lydia_WMDE: because what I'm trying to do is give each of the suggestions a description [18:06:41] for disamiguation maybe use magnus' tool? [18:07:00] terminator i think it was called [18:07:05] because without descriptions, you have no idea if you've picked Statgate - the video game, Stargate - the soundtract, or Stargate - the Norwegian music production company [18:07:20] yeah i know :P [18:07:29] magnus' tool is pretty good for that [18:07:48] Sven_Manguard, use terminator [18:08:07] http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-terminator/ [18:08:14] thx for the link TomT0m [18:08:23] TomT0m: you seem to be missing the point - if I didn't know about that, how are people that are not active editors going to know? [18:08:44] Sven_Manguard: as i said this is going to improve with the new search [18:08:48] until then terminator :) [18:09:01] Sven_Manguard, it's on the Tool page on that Wiki and documented in disambiguation task force [18:09:50] TomT0m: Neither of which someone is isn't a power user is going to know about [18:10:46] the links are on project homepafe [18:12:54] Danwe_WMDE: https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/statuses/382108187136372736 :D [18:18:28] (03CR) 10Nilesh: "(11 comments)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84346 (owner: 10Nilesh) [18:21:57] (03PS13) 10Daniel Werner: (bug 52387) Special page for querying by property value. [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82874 [18:22:53] DanielK_WMDE: I've made some comments and asked a few questions in the phpapi and wikiparserfinal changes. I'll commit again after I receive your replies. Also, please let me know about the documentations part when you can.. [18:25:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 52387) Special page for querying by property value. [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82874 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:36:56] (03PS4) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove SimpleQuery::CACHE_TTL_IN_SECONDS [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83098 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:37:02] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Remove SimpleQuery::CACHE_TTL_IN_SECONDS [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83098 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:41:20] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Remove SimpleQuery::CACHE_TTL_IN_SECONDS [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83098 (owner: 10Daniel Werner) [18:48:46] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85896 gives me errors [19:11:18] (03PS2) 10Daniel Kinzler: Make QuantityValue use decimal notation. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84016 [19:11:30] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make QuantityValue use decimal notation. [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84016 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [19:13:01] JeroenDeDauw, Danwe_WMDE: if you want to have a peek at the new QuantityValue design: ---^ [19:13:24] it's still quiet buggy, and needs tests badly, but you could already comment on the archtecture and concepts [19:13:48] (I'll probably split off the DecimalValue stuff into a separate change) [19:16:56] Who rang? [19:20:56] matanya: A more specific item existed @ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8357836 [19:21:29] thanks multichill noted [19:24:02] matanya: I'm taking the pragmatic approach 1. Article and gallery exist -> link 2. Category and category exist -> link 3. If only article and commons category exist -> link [19:24:55] looks like a resonable way to work. thanks for this too multichill [19:25:14] Hi. User:YMS points out that my account is creating lots of dummy Wikidata items, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/S_Page_%28WMF%29 But I have not intentionally made any edits on Wikidata for months. ?! [19:26:26] spagewmf: OMG, you're hacked (hahaha), this is probably a broken gadget [19:26:35] Is there some template that auto-creates items in Wikidata? I mostly edit mediawiki.org [19:27:24] matanya: We'll just have to wait for the numbers for each of the three cases. We might end up creating the remaining Commons categories anyway [19:27:25] multichill: Thanks. I wonder how I can correlate it. I don't think I'm loading any relevant custom gadgets [19:28:00] I think a similar case was mentioned earlier this week, maybe Lydia_WMDE or aude knows [19:28:51] spagewmf: uhhhhh i am not aware of anything like that happening -.- [19:28:55] spagewmf: I assume you want those created items nuked? since they aren't really needed [19:28:57] or why it could happen [19:30:37] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "(6 comments)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84346 (owner: 10Nilesh) [19:32:49] Lydia_WMDE, JohnLewis : Hmmm. Sure, delete away. There's no way I was up at 6:15am today creating 7 items [19:33:45] spagewmf: hmmmm not good - we should figure out what is happening there but i have no idea where to even start tbh [19:34:10] spagewmf: 19:31, 24 September 2013 John F. Lewis (A) (talk | contribs | block) deleted page Q14943815 (Deletion of mysteriously added items by S Page (WMF) (Nuke)) Then 10 more times with the others :p [19:36:46] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "(4 comments)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84463 (owner: 10Nilesh) [19:38:27] JohnLewis thanks, sorry if I'm carrying the plague. The edits are UTC and I was working on other wikis at 10:15pm PDT, I'll try to figure out where. [19:39:17] spagewmf: It's fine. It's not like these items are causing a major issue for people. [19:39:20] maybe something with how you can do some wikipedia / wikivoyage stuff from those wikis? [19:39:37] errr, some wikidata stuff from wikipedia/wikivoyage [19:42:10] the nifty cross-wiki contribs tool toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=S+Page+(WMF) shows nothing correlated with that time, I don't think it includes Wikidata edits [19:45:49] i wonder if CU would turn up anything of use [19:49:10] rschen7754: good idea, I'll ask for someone to CheckUser me [19:49:48] maybe like the useragent or something [19:49:49] spagewmf: Stewards are the only bet on Wikidata :/ [19:50:52] (03CR) 10Nilesh: "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikidataEntitySuggester] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84463 (owner: 10Nilesh) [20:11:50] Can someone please add the Wikidata items for the Vietnamese Wikivoyage ? [20:12:01] it has never had a bot run [20:12:23] and interwiki.py is broken; I cannot run it [20:12:31] for vi.wikivoyage [20:13:38] GerardM: you want one of: multichill, legoktm, Hazard-SJ [20:14:02] I think those are the import bot ops that are still active [20:14:22] which reminds me, what happened to bene*? [20:14:58] GerardM: Ask Amir (Dexbot), he's been importing a lot of leftovers [20:15:28] Thanks :) [20:16:50] He also helped kill the nlwp backlog [20:17:08] tyvwiki also probably needs import [20:17:55] rschen7754: hell, enwiki needs another round of imports [20:18:00] :/ [20:18:02] there were gaps [20:18:05] I keep finding them [20:18:07] unfortunately addshore's bot is broken for the long-term [20:18:20] why? [20:18:25] i dunno, ask him [20:18:51] we bloody need more coders [20:18:57] yes [20:19:01] please [20:19:21] we've got enough tasks to keep a dozen bots running full time at 20 EPM for several months [20:19:41] and yet we've only got half a dozen bots that run some of the day [20:20:34] it will get better when legoktm finishes ADB, but with him having other things to do, the timing isn't looking stellar [20:20:40] *sigh* [20:20:54] perhaps i should get into the bot coding business, but i already have so many tasks... [20:21:17] I could have helped you with OS stuff, but that died unceremoniously [20:21:31] and I've got my hands full with my own project anyways [20:21:35] Sven_Manguard: No, we need coders who *share* their code instead of working on their own personal castles [20:21:38] plus looking for a job [20:22:00] multichill: who doesn't share code? All of legoktm's stuff is on his github [20:22:26] That's just throwing your shit online, I mean contributing to a shared project [20:22:28] well, it's not OS… it's just SPI, being an admin other places, and USRD stuff [20:22:33] Hazard? addshore? Bene* [20:22:39] rschen7754: USRD? [20:22:43] US roads [20:22:45] And yes, legoktm does that too :-) [20:22:59] addshore is on github [20:23:14] multichill: if you want their code, take their code, it's all released free, no? [20:23:25] they subscribe to a stalkbot service for github too, so you know when they're coding [20:24:07] It should be with interwiki.py, that was run by a lot of people [20:24:54] confront them then [20:33:32] FYI, WMF Ops says my mystery bogus empty Q item sessions in the last week all came from the office and with my user agent, so we're back to suspecting some gadget [20:34:21] spagewmf: A gadget on Wikidata? [21:13:17] hello [21:13:29] spagewmf: by chance were you moving pages on a wikipedia? [21:42:24] Hey. If I look at a page and it has the properties, but instead of there being links to the items, it just says "geographcial feature" and Q30 in unlinked text [21:42:28] what is going wrong? [21:42:48] oh yeah, and none of the properties are editable [21:49:14] Sven_Manguard: link? [21:49:40] only for me [21:49:55] hrm [21:50:13] im guessing that means javascript didnt load properly [21:50:26] what if you do a hard refresh?