[00:30:43] <Sven_Manguard>	 laaa aaaaaaaaaaaa aa a      ag
[06:55:03] <liangent>	 PHP Fatal error:  Class 'SiteMatrixParser' not found in .../extensions/Wikibase/lib/maintenance/populateSitesTable.php on line 55
[06:55:12] <liangent>	 who's expected to contain that?
[09:28:45] <thedude_>	 hello, i want to link the english article about "Samut Prakan radiation accident" with the german one. how do i do that?
[09:40:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Fix EntityViewTest that depended on settings [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86254 (owner: 10Aude)
[09:43:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 031] "OMG - aude is touching the holy css - heresy!" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86244 (owner: 10Aude)
[09:48:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85982 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[09:50:22] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#906 (master - 9d2e48b : aude): The build is still failing.
[09:50:23] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/compare/7ec19464f44e...9d2e48bbe9ca
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[09:54:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85844 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[09:58:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Liangent: [C: 031] (bug 54691) Fix rendering of "In other languages" section of entity page [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86244 (owner: 10Aude)
[10:06:43] <GerardM>	 I fixex the issue thedude mentioned... it needed a merge
[11:10:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove extremely verbose phpunit output in travisci build [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86422 
[11:17:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Jeroen De Dauw: (bug 54319) Show diff when order of snaks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85844 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:18:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 54319) Show diff when order of snaks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85844 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:21:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Use CallbackComparers for ClaimDiffer construction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86423 
[11:22:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use CallbackComparers for ClaimDiffer construction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86423 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:25:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Use CallbackComparers for ClaimDiffer construction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86423 
[11:25:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use CallbackComparers for ClaimDiffer construction. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86423 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:38:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Use ComparableComparer for ClaimDiffer construction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86423 
[11:39:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] (bug 54319) Show diff when order of snaks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85844 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:41:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] (bug 54319) Show diff when order of snaks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85844 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:42:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [V: 032] (bug 54319) Show diff when order of snaks changed [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/85844 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher)
[11:43:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Use ComparableComparer for ClaimDiffer construction [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86423 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:46:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove clutter comments [extensions/Diff] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86424 
[11:49:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Remove extremely verbose phpunit output in travisci build [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86422 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[11:52:37] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#907 (master - 849b86e : jeroendedauw): The build is still failing.
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[11:58:53] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#908 (master - 9c68620 : jeroendedauw): The build is still failing.
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[12:58:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update readme [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86428 
[12:58:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Remove clutter comments [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86429 
[12:58:18] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032 V: 032] Update readme [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86428 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:05:36] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update readme file to markdown [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86430 
[13:05:46] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032 V: 032] Update readme file to markdown [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86430 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:08:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add to readme [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86431 
[13:08:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Remove clutter comments [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86429 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:08:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add to readme [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86431 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:11:04] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery#43 (master - 6843160 : jeroendedauw): The build has errored.
[13:11:04] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/compare/308a285577c2...684316004021
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[13:13:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Update requirement version [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86432 
[13:13:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032 V: 032] Update requirement version [extensions/Ask] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86432 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:58:52] <cortexA9>	 hello
[13:59:08] <GerardM>	 hoi cortexA9 
[13:59:55] <cortexA9>	 GerardM: hello
[14:00:23] <cortexA9>	 GerardM: what is wikidata ? 
[14:01:48] <GerardM>	 <grin> it is a collection of data. It provides the interwiki functionality and it is intended to serve as the repository of information as you can find it in infoboxes
[14:02:02] <GerardM>	 and it is gaining more functionality 
[14:02:06] <GerardM>	 </grin>
[14:02:20] <GerardM>	 why the question ?
[14:02:51] <cortexA9>	 GerardM: i am curious
[14:02:55] <cortexA9>	 :)
[14:03:07] <GerardM>	 where are you from ?
[14:03:13] <cortexA9>	 switzerland
[14:03:35] <GerardM>	 ok
[14:04:53] <GerardM>	 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39 is Switzerland ... check if the facts are correct (I think they are not .. certainly not complete)
[14:05:47] <GerardM>	 Romansh is missing as an official language
[14:06:26] <GerardM>	 <grin> just added it ... but there is likely to be more amiss
[14:07:17] <cortexA9>	 GerardM: what is Italy ?
[14:07:36] <GerardM>	 search for it :)
[14:07:54] <GerardM>	 it is spelled Italy :) (in English)
[14:07:54] <cortexA9>	 oh Q38 ok
[14:07:55] <cortexA9>	 :)
[15:39:04] <GerardM>	 are we already allowing for incubator pages in Wikidata ?
[16:24:17] <Stryn>	 GerardM: no
[16:26:12] <GerardM>	 that is much more straightforward than WIktionary
[16:26:42] <GerardM>	 it also makes life easy when an incubator project goes WIKIPEDIA
[16:28:53] <GerardM>	 stryn how should I deal with issues where Wikipedia information is contradictory (data not interwiki link)
[16:39:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 state the nature of your data emergency
[16:43:31] <GerardM>	 two wikipedias have conflicting information 
[16:43:58] <GerardM>	 consequently it is not obvious what is right to put into WIkidata
[16:45:55] <Sky2042>	 GerardM: Put both and source with imported from each claim made.
[16:46:03] <Sky2042>	 Or do research and figure out which is the correct. :P
[17:09:09] <GerardM>	 it is about NAMES ... how do you call someone ... how do you do inclusion ... 
[17:47:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: remove use MWException which is not used [extensions/WikibaseDataModel] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86439 
[18:11:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Aude: Fix comment docs return value [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86440 
[19:11:22] <liangent>	 where's the deletion review page on wikidata?
[19:12:47] <legoktm>	 [[WD:RFD]]?
[19:12:48] <AsimovBot>	 10[1] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:RFD?redirect=no - Redirection to 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions
[19:14:51] <liangent>	 legoktm: that's for delete instead of undelete requests :/
[19:14:58] <legoktm>	 oh
[19:15:01] <legoktm>	 WD:AN i guess
[19:15:06] <liangent>	 but nvm I was checking https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14161063
[19:15:07] <legoktm>	 there's no official page really
[19:15:12] <legoktm>	 i can do it for you though
[19:15:28] <liangent>	 the comment was "empty", but in fact it had been merged
[19:15:30] <legoktm>	  (show/hide) (diff) 06:02, 3 September 2013 . . GZWDer (talk | contribs | block) (1,118 bytes) (‎Updated item: Removed by merge.js, moving to 上林村 (Q10867506))
[19:15:33] <legoktm>	 yeah
[19:15:44] <liangent>	 but that should be mentioned in the deletion comment I guess
[19:16:32] <legoktm>	 there, fixed
[19:16:42] <legoktm>	 also, why aren't you an admin?
[19:20:11] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q3595042&format=jsonfm <-- what does 'removed' mean?
[19:20:19] <legoktm>	 i've never seen that before
[19:20:25] <legoktm>	 aude: ^
[19:21:12] <liangent>	 legoktm: I've seen 'removed' in the serializer code
[19:21:23] <liangent>	 though I don't know when it appears in api output
[19:21:28] <legoktm>	 hrm, its breaking my bot :/
[19:24:21] <liangent>	 legoktm: btw https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q14601757&format=jsonfm says it has no labels
[19:24:34] <liangent>	 but where's the label added in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14601757&diff=65987457&oldid=65987454 ?
[19:25:23] <legoktm>	 hrm.
[19:25:41] <legoktm>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Q14601757&rvprop=content&format=jsonfm shows no labels either
[19:26:41] <legoktm>	 liangent: file a bug for it?
[19:26:45] <legoktm>	 data loss == bad
[19:27:13] <liangent>	 legoktm: hm it was lost in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q14601757&diff=next&oldid=65987457
[19:27:24] <legoktm>	 lololwut
[19:27:39] <liangent>	 legoktm: but I'm sure I was sticking to wbcreateclaim
[19:27:44] <legoktm>	 maybe its a race condition?
[19:28:22] <liangent>	 legoktm: race condition with a span of more than 10 seconds?
[19:28:35] <legoktm>	 heh, a very slow race :P
[19:28:37] <legoktm>	 dunno
[19:30:27] <aude>	 legoktm: in no version of that item do i see tt label
[19:30:44] <legoktm>	 aude: same, but why does it say 'removed' then?
[19:30:47] <aude>	 i think 'removed' shouldn't be there
[19:32:08] <liangent>	 legoktm: generally 'removed' is used when an empty string is given somewhere to the serializer, iirc
[19:32:53] <liangent>	 legoktm: https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Q3595042&rvprop=content&format=jsonfm
[19:32:59] <liangent>	 yeah it has an empty string in tt
[19:33:07] <legoktm>	 ah.
[19:33:11] <aude>	 in wb_terms it is empty
[19:33:20] <aude>	 empty string
[19:33:46] <aude>	 at some point, i think we didn't trim the labels and allowed some of those in
[19:36:24] <legoktm>	 MariaDB [wikidatawiki_p]> select count(*) from wb_terms where term_type="label" and term_text=""; <-- 9
[19:36:38] <aude>	 huh
[19:36:41] <legoktm>	 MariaDB [wikidatawiki_p]> select count(*) from wb_terms where term_type="alias" and term_text=""; <-- 238
[19:36:44] <aude>	 not surprised
[19:36:55] <aude>	 i suppose a bot could clean those up
[19:39:49] <liangent>	 aude: btw any idea about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54768 ?
[19:40:00] <liangent>	 picked a person randomly to ask
[19:40:45] <aude>	 ick
[19:42:09] <aude>	 if addshore is back tomorrow, he could look
[19:42:21] <aude>	 otherwise one of needs to investigate and fix
[19:42:25] <aude>	 one of us
[20:35:23] <travis-ci>	 [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase#909 (master - 197c503 : Translation updater bot): The build is still failing.
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[20:54:35] <Sky2042>	 Okay, so apparently the wikis are dumb. They have two categories for the class of things called 'human'.
[20:54:36] <Sky2042>	 :|
[21:43:43] <GerardM>	 Sky2042:  I do not understand what you mean by "two categories"
[21:44:46] <Sky2042>	 GerardM: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9414408 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6697530
[21:45:00] <Sky2042>	 though apparently the en.wp link is a redirect category.
[21:45:06] <Sky2042>	 on the 94 item
[21:46:28] <GerardM>	 Sky2042: categories are irrelevant in the sense of Wikidata 
[21:46:57] <GerardM>	 the reason is that there are potentially 280 competing category structures (only all the Wikipedias)
[21:47:29] <GerardM>	 relevant in Wikidata is "is a" "person"
[21:47:51] <Sky2042>	 GerardM: And? I don't disagree. :P
[21:48:02] <GerardM>	 <grin> and I dare everyone to reason why this is incorrect
[21:48:29] <GerardM>	 I hope that many of the categories will go the way of the dodo
[21:48:37] <GerardM>	 and be replaced by Wikidata