[02:21:00] (03Draft2) 10Aude: add tests for MovePageNotice [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91553 [07:56:28] yet another place to idle [07:56:57] that's what IRC is about :) [07:58:33] o/ [08:00:58] can someone tell me what language has the identifier "En" (with uppercase e)? [08:01:28] all other identifiers are all lower case [08:05:02] addshore: hey [08:05:20] addshore: merging in your 'I had `public` keyword everywhere' patch [08:06:21] err [08:11:55] rejecting it afterall [08:39:56] lbenedix the only language that is referred to by en is English ... [08:40:10] you are right, it should be without the capital [10:12:46] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P355 has one label named "En" and one "en" [10:13:37] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/P355.json [10:28:12] lbenedix: added in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P355&diff=prev&oldid=15138171 . we need to know what s/he did exactly at that time, or it's difficult to diagnose [10:29:30] lbenedix: I removed that [10:30:32] I'd like to know how it is possible to enter wrong lang codes via the wikidata api [10:31:02] they are not checked ? [10:31:37] there should be a list of valid lang codes... [10:32:33] or at least a conversion to all lower case... [10:35:59] There is such a list ... but WMF has additional values that are wrong ... [10:36:10] so no lists that are automagically correct [10:36:10] should would could != is [10:36:54] Lydia_WMDE if you want such a list ask Siebrand / Alolita [10:37:00] they may have one [10:37:15] likely that they do [10:37:25] ok [10:40:45] Lydia_WMDE: GerardM: Utils::getLanguageCodes() + bug 51071 + gerrit 81001 [10:42:59] what is the reason for != is ? [10:45:50] pick one of: [10:45:54] * not aware of the problem [10:45:58] * not actually an issue [10:46:04] * no time to fix it [10:46:13] and more [10:46:24] (i have no idea what is the case in this particular case) [10:48:08] Lydia_WMDE: nice (bug 51071) [10:48:30] :) [12:30:19] pff [13:26:21] Lydia_WMDE: poke [13:26:29] aude: hey [13:26:32] can we discuss https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54098 when i am back next week? [13:26:38] looking [13:26:50] aude: jep sure [13:26:54] i don't have all the answers but seems some stuff accessing the wb_terms table [13:26:57] is slow [13:27:03] ah good [13:27:20] i think having some of this functionality supported by elastic search backend might be helpful for that and generally [13:27:39] not sure how quick that could happen and needs more exploring [13:28:08] ok cool [13:28:11] let's talk next week? [13:28:23] ok [13:30:13] obviously a lot of the slowness is in js, which is not my area so much [13:31:35] see last comment in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45529 [13:44:21] (03PS1) 10Aude: cleanup and improve RepoLinker [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91601 [13:46:18] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "new tests needed for repo linker and might altogether rename that class also" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91601 (owner: 10Aude) [13:47:50] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] cleanup and improve RepoLinker [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91601 (owner: 10Aude) [13:49:44] interesting datapoint: ~40% of Wikidata Items have an english label, ~8% an english description [13:50:17] for french its ~20% for both [13:51:32] lbenedix where do you have those stats ? [13:51:46] and how current is that info ? [13:51:55] its from the latest dump [13:51:57] 21.10.2013 [13:51:57] WB JohnLewis [13:52:08] :) [13:52:38] Do you have those numbers somewhere for me to see ? [13:53:03] I'm counting for the older dumps right now [13:53:43] lbenedix: obviously it's easy for bots to fill in labels with good guess [13:54:06] french, no idea why they are same [13:54:47] aude lbenedix http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/10/wikidata-operation-fat-head-is-go.html [13:54:53] one interesting thing is that for french nr. of descriptions is > nr of labels [13:56:08] is that because many french links do not have labels ? [13:56:17] I have no idea why that is [13:58:20] 2.426.835 french labels vs. 2.747.678 descriptions [13:58:48] 2279692 2452750 are old numbers [13:58:59] ? [13:59:31] from the late august dump [13:59:56] 2279692 2452750 are old numbers [14:00:23] it is probably names thought to be the same in many languages like English [14:00:45] but you dont see them if your language is french [14:01:01] you just copy the labels [14:01:32] > 10 mio labels? [14:01:57] why not [14:02:32] I'll be dead before I'm done... [14:02:42] No you are not :) [14:03:56] hmmm.. would take 3month of work without sleep if you can add one label per second [14:04:49] Not when it is done as a database action ... [14:05:16] There are a lot of items where the french and english name are not the same [14:05:30] I am sure that it would take aude or Lydia_WMDE just a few moments [14:06:03] I'm not sure, if I look at what is stored in the text table... [14:30:01] Lydia_WMDE: hey, DanielK is on some kind of brake? [14:30:19] lazowik: in a call sorry - yes he is on vacation [14:30:37] ok, I only want to know when he comes back [14:30:54] next week but he will be at smwcon until wednesday [14:30:58] anything i can help with? [14:31:07] api editing waits for review :) [14:35:49] lazowik: maybe poke addshore then [14:36:09] Lydia_WMDE: he's too on vacation... [14:36:20] but back earlier [14:36:38] ah, when? [15:01:15] Lydia_WMDE: got my emails... including one now [15:02:15] aude: in call sorry [15:02:33] Lydia_WMDE: please read them in the next hour :) [15:02:40] k [15:27:55] aude: hey [15:27:58] back and read email [15:28:19] Lydia_WMDE: when addshore comes back? [15:28:45] aude: so tobi ran the tests on the single repo - if we don't deploy from this now we need to rerun i guess? [15:28:49] lazowik: monday i think [15:28:57] but possibly onlin earlier [15:29:00] just as daniel [15:31:05] ok, thanks [15:33:39] Lydia_WMDE: i don't think so [15:34:04] as far as tests concerned, i don't think location of the extensions matters much [15:34:22] and we can just keep the current stuff for now, until i get back [15:35:12] i was suggesting to try deploy new stuff from the single repo next thursday (or any other day next weekn than monday) [15:38:00] Lydia_WMDE: ? [15:38:42] or we can deploy new stuff, and still do the switchover next week (but not monday) [15:39:11] aude: ok let's try this for the next one then [15:39:26] ok [15:39:41] * aude is fine with monday deploy if it's trivial [15:39:53] not moving stuff + new code is trivial [15:40:02] hi lazowik ! [15:40:11] hey! [15:40:14] meanwhile get stuff on beta etc [15:40:29] aude: let's only deploy on main system what we have deployed on test systems before [15:40:41] Lydia_WMDE: right [15:40:58] test2 and test wikidata will get the new branches, but no config change [15:41:14] lazowik: how if your patchset? [15:41:17] ok i think now i am confused [15:41:25] ? [15:41:29] addshore: waiting [15:41:34] but he's patient [15:41:43] I raised him well :) [15:41:57] Lydia_WMDE: you mean for selenium? [15:41:59] aude: ok so today we deploy new code but from old repsoitory setup to test [15:42:06] Lydia_WMDE: exactly [15:42:14] aude: and on monday we deploy new code from old setup to main sites [15:42:19] exactly [15:42:26] then next thursday all this with new repsoitory setup [15:42:27] next week we can deploy new setup to beta [15:42:39] and if well, everything :) [15:42:44] ok cool [15:42:56] :> [15:43:01] * addshore looks forward to this! [15:43:03] * aude doesn't like doing major changes when jetlagged and inadequate time to test config [15:43:14] usually doesn't work so great [15:43:20] ack [15:43:41] addshore: I gave him that -> http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-because-i-m-proud-of-you-2.png [15:44:08] * aude goes to hunt core bug [15:44:26] * lazowik gives aude a rifle [15:44:51] * addshore wishes aude goodluck [15:45:10] :) [15:47:13] aude: http://www.shinynewwant.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/bugasalt2-625x338.jpg :D [15:47:52] :D [15:48:05] http://vimeo.com/60519616 [18:01:49] hello [18:04:24] I see lots of descriptions who begins with a lowercase letter. It's not a problem if I start with a capital letter on my own descriptions? [18:13:25] Okki: descriptions are not supposed to be sentences [18:13:42] so no capitals and dots [18:20:19] Argh. I created a thousand like this :( [18:21:56] Okki: shouldn't be that important. I hope so... [19:01:42] lazowik: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_link_badges_edit_interface.png [19:02:22] yay [19:02:58] Lydia_WMDE: what should come after api editing? [19:03:20] client support and change propagation [19:03:23] or repo ui? [19:03:28] i think the ui [19:03:43] lazowik: UI :) [19:04:07] client support and change propagation can be separate items [19:04:21] lazowik: though if you want to work on the others don't be blocked by that as henning is busy with other things at the moment [19:04:34] e.g. we display languages links and parser /lua without change propagation when a page is saved and parsed [19:04:46] aude: mhm [19:04:57] I'll go for the UI [19:05:02] lazowik: ok :) [19:05:11] (if you won't be faster) [19:05:16] lazowik: ok great :) [19:24:43] aude: Is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56153/ ok to be merged/deployed? [19:29:28] let's see [19:29:41] Reedy: yes [19:30:27] no one should be visiting raw wikidata.org without www. or such, as long as apache config is correct [20:03:11] hmm, addshore, how's the whether? [20:03:21] *weather... [20:16:54] Pyb: au fait, Meodudlye ne vient plus sur fr, donc tu peux revenir :) [20:44:01] lazowik: wet and windy, perfect ;p [20:44:11] hehe [20:54:11] . [20:54:11] . [20:54:11] . [20:54:11] . [20:54:31] Danwe_WMDE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5AceLYWE1Q [21:12:16] (03PS2) 10Aude: cleanup and improve RepoLinker [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91601 [21:12:23] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "new tests needed for repo linker and might altogether rename that class also" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91601 (owner: 10Aude) [21:18:15] 'night! [22:11:18] Lydia_WMDE: are you back in Berlin? [23:31:35] hi [23:31:51] is it possible to add a wikisource link for a specif language in a wikidata item ? [23:32:12] I tried in declarations : wikisource, no result appear at the automatic completion search [23:33:50] no, not yet [23:35:46] ok [23:35:49] thanks