[00:27:45] <GerardM>	 as to Commons, is there a mention of the Creator and Institution namespaces ?
[00:28:00] <GerardM>	 they can be integrated with Wikidata easily
[00:28:17] <GerardM>	 an argument is easy to make that they all belong in Wikidata anyway
[00:53:41] <sDrewth>	 GerardM: I don't disagree with that; or more that they can be created as prepopulated on Commons
[00:54:25] <sDrewth>	 I am waiting for the day that it becomes a click to generate and populate one
[07:19:56] <GerardM>	 for whatever reason the updates are not measured anymore
[08:32:04] <multichill>	 GerardM: Wintertijd gemist ;-)
[08:36:45] <GerardM>	 ? nee
[08:36:58] <GerardM>	 is mijn tool niet ..
[08:37:09] <GerardM>	 maar dat zou het kunnen zijn
[08:37:18] <multichill>	 Nee, ik bedoel omdat je zo vroeg online bent
[08:37:23] <GerardM>	 nee
[08:37:42] <GerardM>	 ik had geen wekker staan
[08:38:00] <GerardM>	 heb een paar dagen geleden mijn ribben gekneusd en slaap nu slecht
[08:38:11] <GerardM>	 draaien doet zeer
[08:38:59] <GerardM>	 draai een bot op commons die de institution:Tropenmuseum plaatst
[08:39:42] <multichill>	 Auw, ja, dat slaapt vervelend
[08:39:55] <multichill>	 Ja, leuk! 
[08:48:18] <GerardM>	 vind dat dat mooier staat ... wat ik me afvraag is maakt het straks verschil ivm Wikidata voor Commons ?
[09:09:29] <multichill>	 Ja, dat is gemakkelijker op te pikken
[09:15:06] <multichill>	 GerardM: Die omzetting naar Wikibase op Commons zal nog wel even duren. Is een behoorlijke uitdaging!
[09:15:25] <GerardM>	 dat is het ...
[09:15:58] <GerardM>	 ... de creator en institution namespace ... kan die niet nu al naar Wikidata gelinkt worden ?
[09:16:08] <GerardM>	 lijkt me nuttig
[09:16:27] <GerardM>	 heb je ook op Commons een groeipad
[09:28:08] <multichill>	 Daar zou je dan op Wikidata objecten voor moeten aanmaken en linken met het onderwerp
[09:28:30] <multichill>	 Of in elk creator/institution template het Q nummertje opnemen
[09:29:34] <multichill>	 GerardM: Zie bijvoorbeeld https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creator:Rembrandt
[09:30:09] <multichill>	 Je zou ook zoals "Commons category" en property "Commons creator" en "Commons institution" kunnen maken, maar ik ben daar niet helemaal fan van
[09:30:42] <multichill>	 Er zijn maar 16.000 creator templates dus daar objecten voor aanmaken zou niet heel veel werk moeten zijn
[09:31:04] <multichill>	 En dat linkje kan dan gewoon uit Wikidata gehaald worden
[09:31:52] <multichill>	 GerardM: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Creator_templates_without_Wikidata_link <- en zo te zien is de helft al gedaan
[09:52:42] <multichill>	 GerardM: I was thinking. If we have coordinates for all railway stations and set previous and next, we should be able to generate a nice map :-)
[12:34:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 legoktm: any chance you can get me an updated number for a talk at smwcon on tuesday? i'd be interested in an update for the number of new wikimedians we got through wikidata - at wikimania this was 1300
[12:43:52] <Lydia_WMDE>	 can someone help me find a ranking of all wikimedia projects by number of active editors? stats.wikimedia.org is not being helpful it seems
[13:02:00] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias contains some info, but only Wikipedia
[13:02:18] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: yeah :/
[13:02:48] <multichill>	 http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/wikimedias_html.php
[13:03:03] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: did you add cats yet?
[13:03:08] <multichill>	 No active user column
[13:03:15] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: nope :(
[13:03:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: oh but that is already better than nothing - thx
[13:04:01] <multichill>	 Ask mutante if he can include an active users column
[13:06:49] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: Query would be something like "SELECT COUNT(DISTINCT(rc_user)) FROM recentchanges;"
[13:07:19] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: Add them for great justice, or CATS will take all your base
[13:07:27] <Lydia_WMDE>	 -.-
[13:07:47] <multichill>	 Probably better to just grab it from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics , probably also available in the api
[13:09:26] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: Oh, even better, http://stats.wikimedia.org/reportcard/ contains it "Active Wikimedia Editors for All Wikimedia Projects (5+ edits per month)"
[13:09:30] <multichill>	 85,163     
[13:09:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: but feb 2012 :(
[13:10:15] <multichill>	 http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/
[13:10:24] <multichill>	 and there it's up to date with csv export option
[13:10:32] <multichill>	 http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/data/datafiles/rc/rc_active_editors_count.csv
[13:11:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[13:11:43] <multichill>	 Lydia_WMDE: First enwp, second Commond, dewp third, no Wikidata yet...
[13:11:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 that's what i was looking for
[13:11:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 multichill: it is 5th then - just not included there
[13:12:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 which also means we overtook russian wikipedia
[13:12:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 \o/
[13:12:17] <multichill>	 Hold on
[13:12:36] <multichill>	 This uses 5 as a minimum, the special:stats one uses 1 as a minimum
[13:12:42] <Lydia_WMDE>	 yes
[13:12:44] <multichill>	 So the metric is not the same
[13:12:44] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i know
[13:12:55] <Lydia_WMDE>	 wikidata is currently at 38XX for 5+
[13:13:03] <multichill>	 ok
[13:19:32] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: if you cant find a good cat, you can use that one picture of you with nyan cat on your monitor
[13:19:53] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: you should increase my chocolate count by one
[13:19:54] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ;-)
[13:36:39] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: if you use that image, sure
[14:27:48] <PiRSquared>	 Is it possible to get a localized link to a Wikipedia article using Wikidata via Lua (on Meta-Wiki)?
[14:28:18] <PiRSquared>	 let's say I want to get the French title for Q100, is that possible?
[14:29:02] <PiRSquared>	 lncabh: ^
[14:37:08] <PiRSquared>	 Or using ParserFunctions?
[14:37:48] <PiRSquared>	 I'd prefer using ParserFunctions as they're easier, but a way to do it using Lua modules is okay...
[14:40:16] <sDrewthedoff>	 anyone know the property to put a journal into a field of study?  https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6295308
[14:41:00] <sDrewthedoff>	 PiRSquared: there is a gadget to do it, so you must be able to get it from the api
[14:41:18] <PiRSquared>	 sDrewthedoff: I would prefer a way to do it in wikitext
[14:41:31] <sDrewthedoff>	 dreamer
[14:41:49] <sDrewthedoff>	 go and ask Magnus to develop one
[14:42:16] <PiRSquared>	 I asked about this months ago FWIW
[14:42:26] <sDrewthedoff>	 go and ask Magnus to develop one
[14:42:27] <PiRSquared>	 they said it would be done... eventually...
[14:42:48] <sDrewthedoff>	 eventually is like the length of a piece of string
[14:43:03] <sDrewthedoff>	 eventually we will get true unified accounts only
[14:43:47] <PiRSquared>	 They said SUL finalization was going to happen in August, lol (not surprising that it didn't happen)
[14:47:10] <sDrewthedoff>	 PiRSquared: I am not sure that they put a year to the August
[14:47:52] <PiRSquared>	 sDrewthedoff: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement&diff=5726233&oldid=5643305
[14:48:08] <sDrewthedoff>	 any year is only indicative
[14:54:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: how long will ppl likely stay at the place?
[14:54:56] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Lydia_WMDE: I probably cannot make it in time due to me still not having finished my workshop :D
[14:54:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JeroenDeDauw: no idea tbh - 2 hours?
[14:55:03] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[14:56:53] <JeroenDeDauw>	 It's an Abraham_WMDE!
[14:58:47] <PiRSquared>	 JohnLewis: ^^^^^ know anything about Parser functions or lua?
[15:00:04] <sDrewthedoff>	 JeroenDeDauw: we could lock them in
[15:00:13] <sDrewthedoff>	 or feed them lots of beer and pizza
[15:00:29] <sDrewthedoff>	 same result, just different receptiveness
[15:07:50] <JeroenDeDauw>	 sDrewthedoff: now that is a plan!
[15:11:46] <JohnLewis>	 PiRSquared: Not really.
[15:11:58] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: Get my query yesterday?
[15:12:21] <Lydia_WMDE>	 JohnLewis: i don't think so?
[15:12:35] <JohnLewis>	 Lydia_WMDE: Ah. Well, Wikidata hit 1k properties :)
[15:12:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 oh nice
[19:17:44] <legoktm>	 Lydia_WMDE: Hm, I never wrote down the queries that I used >.>
[19:18:30] <Reedy>	 .mysql_history?
[19:21:22] <legoktm>	 d'oh
[19:22:10] <legoktm>	 MariaDB [centralauth_p]> select count(*) from localuser where lu_wiki="wikidatawiki" and lu_attached_method="new";
[19:22:15] <legoktm>	 Lydia_WMDE: 4752
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[21:04:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 legoktm: sweet - thanks!
[21:04:23] <Lydia_WMDE>	 legoktm: this is actually a pretty awesome increase since wikimania!
[21:05:56] <Reedy>	 All those people that had to change their passwords...
[21:06:21] <Jasper_Deng_busy>	 Reedy: is that why all TS tools relying on the db are broken?
[21:06:32] <Reedy>	 No?
[21:06:52] <Jasper_Deng_busy>	 (b/c the users db was removed from Tool Labs)
[21:07:17] <Reedy>	 oh, wait
[21:07:30] <Reedy>	 you don't mean toolserver tools on the toolserver
[21:07:38] <Reedy>	 you mean migrated tools running on labs/tool labs?
[21:07:53] <Jasper_Deng_busy>	 oh right, the leak was on Labs, not TS
[21:16:15] <Guest72563>	 Please see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Rum%C3%A4nische_Nationalbibliothek#NLR The url to Authority control data links has been discovered
[21:22:40] <Guest72563>	 Hi GerardM
[21:22:53] <Guest72563>	 Hi GerardM (user:gangleri)
[21:28:08] <Guest72563>	 Is anybody participating the WikiMedia conference in Smolensk November 9-10 2013? https://ru.wikipedia.org/?curid=4701991#
[21:29:20] <Guest72563>	 Is a property creator around here?
[21:43:02] <Guest72563>	 Is a property creator OR AN ADMIN  around here?
[21:45:50] <Guest72563>	 I am https://www.wikidata.org/?curid=16717382# [[user:לערי ריינהארט]]
[21:45:51] <AsimovBot>	 10[4] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/user:%D7%9C%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%99_%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%98
[21:46:58] <JohnLewis>	 Guest72563: Yes?
[21:48:46] <JohnLewis>	 Guest72563: How can I help?
[21:50:21] <Guest72563>	 Yes ! I was not online at irc for two years.
[21:56:35] <gangleri_inu>	 JohnLewis Can you please create https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#NLR ? I have discoveder how the authority control values can be retrieved and how they can be linked
[21:57:49] <gangleri_inu>	 JohnLewis I will brb
[22:07:13] <gangleri_inu>	 JohnLewis : https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/special:Contributions/%D7%9C%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%99_%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%98 contain a lot of ***RNL System Number= ***  changes at talk pages
[22:30:43] <gangleri_inu>	 bye