[00:00:01] PiRSquared: early [00:00:16] aaaand it didn't work :/ [00:00:20] what?! [00:00:21] How about now. [00:00:22] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [00:00:32] :< [00:00:33] PiRSquared: close enough :D [00:00:45] anyone up for updating the frontpage news? [00:00:47] meh [00:00:57] * Lydia_WMDE goes and does project chat [00:01:18] I can't believe it has been a whole year. [00:01:29] PiRSquared: yes! [00:01:32] same here [00:01:45] Sven_Manguard: just override https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata-logo-en-135px.png ? [00:01:51] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/10/wikidata-hip-hip-hurray.html [00:01:52] oh wait [00:01:55] the CSS is workign now [00:01:57] yeee [00:02:02] \o/ [00:02:05] Happy Bithday to you! [00:02:14] Happy Birthday to you! [00:02:25] Happy birthday dear wikidata [00:02:27] ! [00:02:28] :P [00:02:34] Happy Birthday to you! [00:02:50] :) [00:03:04] :D [00:03:22] how...do i update the news? [00:03:50] you'll have to mark the page with TA after you update it [00:04:03] legoktm: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:News&action=edit [00:04:23] * Lydia_WMDE opens the bottle of champagne [00:04:24] :P [00:04:34] have a glass everyone [00:04:36] and a cookie [00:04:36] :D [00:04:41] well [00:04:44] i didn't do it right [00:04:48] someone can fix it for me :P [00:05:32] looking [00:06:02] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Today_is_Wikidat.27s_Birthday.21 [00:06:05] seems whoever did the P1000 one didn't update it either [00:06:07] done now [00:06:22] ah cool [00:06:41] JohnLewis make P1000 i think [00:07:31] Oh! [00:11:11] Let's translate Wikidata:First_Birthday [00:17:06] * Lydia_WMDE is happy :) [00:17:07] Sven_Manguard write my nick as DangSunmM [00:17:18] :| [00:17:40] * Lydia_WMDE noms the n and everything is fine again ;-) [00:18:09] Lydia_WMDE: since is WD birthday, these cats are for you [00:18:14] http://imgur.com/gallery/oQXSX [00:18:23] :D [00:18:28] :D [00:18:29] ♪♫ Q167545 ♪♫♪ [00:18:34] Sannita: <3 [00:18:38] @link Q167545 [00:18:38] This is not a valid link [00:18:43] @link [[Q167545]] [00:18:43] http://enwp.org/Q167545 [00:18:44] 10[5] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q167545 [00:20:16] ▌█ █ ▌▌█ ▌█ ▌▌ [00:20:36] ▌█ █ ▌▌█ ▌█ ▌▌ (2) [00:20:50] YairRand wins for ascii art [00:21:00] :) [00:21:03] 4▌█ █ 3▌▌2█ ▌█3 ▌▌ [00:21:05] :P [00:21:10] hah [00:21:12] ok [00:21:13] Somebody can change topic? [00:21:14] PiRSquared wins [00:21:20] ▌█ █ ▌▌█ ▌█ ▌▌ [00:21:24] I can do this all days, folks. [00:21:26] ah, right, colors [00:21:27] you can do colored text?? pls explain [00:21:34] YairRand: IRC n00b? :P [00:21:41] ▌█ █ ▌▌█ ▌█ ▌▌-> Test wikidata [00:21:46] :P [00:21:50] haha [00:21:58] Again [00:22:12] Somebody can change topic [00:22:17] better shade of red? 5▌█ █ 3▌▌2█ ▌█3 ▌▌ [00:22:21] :D [00:22:48] alright folks - time to get some sleep - love you all - good night :) [00:22:59] night! [00:23:06] !night [00:23:07] and thanks everyone who helped get out the birthday page [00:23:24] !night is Good night, sweet dreams and dream of Wikidata (admins)! [00:23:25] You are not authorized to perform this, sorry [00:23:26] especially Sven_Manguard :) [00:23:31] :D [00:23:33] YairRand: try tying %C then a digit [00:23:37] thanks Lydia_WMDE [00:23:40] not sure how qwebirc does it [00:23:53] %C0 [00:24:07] hmmm [00:24:28] 00,77▌█ █ [00:24:32] erm [00:27:21] what? O_o [00:27:47] Sannita: happy birthday? [00:27:58] Happy Birthday to us! [00:28:11] PiRSquared: sorry, I was just taken by all these colours [00:28:24] not used to see them much on an IRC channel :D [00:29:00] * Sannita was reading Sven_Manguard's op-ed [00:31:07] i'm not sure that we have 190 admins [00:32:00] 100 admin? [00:32:08] typo? [00:32:09] 92, actually [00:32:14] ^ [00:32:15] hmm [00:33:21] {{NUMBEROFADMINS}} gives 97 [00:33:23] 10[6] 04https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:NUMBEROFADMINS [00:33:43] that includes the staff accounts [00:33:49] ah [00:34:04] see [[WD:A]] [00:34:05] 10[7] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/WD:A?redirect=no - Redirection to 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators [00:34:48] * YairRand still finds it annoying that there's no way to have user names show up differently depending on the reader's language preference [00:35:29] YairRand: file a bug? [00:35:39] or is there one already? [00:35:43] dunno [00:35:53] * DangSunM writes some word to korean PC [00:36:01] what would that be filed under? general localization? [00:36:42] Yes. [00:36:45] (I think) [00:36:47] well, good night everyone [00:37:05] buonanotte, SannitAway [00:38:14] others can comment on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:First_Birthday/Community_messages ... [00:39:57] ah, before going, I've got a question [00:40:15] do you know of any instance of Wikibase run OUTSIDE the WMF projects? [00:41:01] Uncyclodata(?) [00:41:03] No... [00:41:05] http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Repository [00:41:30] thanks [00:41:35] one is missing, definitely [00:41:47] well, see you tomorrow [00:42:02] SannitAway: what's missing? [00:42:06] testwikidata? [00:42:10] nope [00:42:37] (looking for it, one sec) [00:43:15] oh, great, it's reserved area -_-' [00:43:51] anyway, with Wikimedia Italia, we set up a wikibase instance for a database of Latin and Ancient Greek inscriptions [00:44:07] with data coming from very well sourced databases [00:44:22] and they're going to release tons of images, and the data too [00:44:25] "wikibase" inurl:special:version just gives some Wikipedia mirrors [00:44:29] (in google) [00:44:56] http://www.eagle-network.eu/about/who-we-are/ [00:45:35] cool [00:48:47] well, good night for real this time ;) [00:52:01] !night [00:52:05] all! [00:58:13] Why are there separate "male human" and "male animal" itmes? [00:58:16] *items [01:12:53] @trusted [01:12:53] I trust: .*@wikimedia/IWorld (2admin), .*@quassel\.jefferai\.org (2admin), .*@unaffiliated/jeroendedauw (2admin), .*@wikipedia/Liangent (2trusted), [01:32:02] 🎂 [01:32:30] PiRSquared: heh [01:33:03] I wonder if anyone else can see it ;) [01:33:43] * YairRand can't actually see it. [01:34:28] one birthday cake [01:35:10] Q1195276 [01:36:05] hm, the commons category for birthday cakes isn't linked to the wikidata item [01:36:40] did the issue of whether to link commons pages or categories to wp articles get settled at some point? [01:37:08] Maybe see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Commons? [02:04:08] anyone remember what the time of day was when wikidata launched? [02:04:27] Afternoon [02:04:29] We can probably work it out.. [02:04:49] 20:01, 26 October 2012 [02:05:07] 18 hours or so from now [02:05:19] that can't be right; Q1 was created at 18:18 [02:05:31] What timezone? [02:05:34] UTC [02:05:43] (looking at the history) [02:06:12] Oh [02:06:13] Maybe [02:06:19] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Main_Page&oldid=1 [02:06:34] That can't be right [02:06:35] Revision as of 15:50, 25 October 2012 by 127.0.0.1 [02:07:06] Hmm [02:07:11] Did we have some apache/access problems? [02:07:29] dunno [02:08:30] 2nd edit wasn't till Revision as of 20:13, 26 October 2012 [02:09:05] my own first edit was at 20:08, Oct 29 [02:09:07] (cur | prev) 18:18, 29 October 2012‎ 127.0.0.1 (talk | block)‎ . . (161 bytes) (+161)‎ . . (Import) (restore) [02:09:25] It's listed as being in import [02:09:55] perplexing. don't imports get listed after the edits from the original wiki? [02:09:57] I've an edit from 2007 [02:09:58] :P [02:09:59] (change visibility) 18:26, 18 June 2007 (diff | hist) . . (-29)‎ . . m Template:Tlp ‎ (Added {{Tl/doc}} as per standard of other pages) [02:10:01] 10[8] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Tl/doc [02:10:18] yeah, and I've got an edit from 2010. heh. [02:10:35] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Unsigned&diff=prev&oldid=759043 [02:11:41] hoo has user id 1 [02:11:54] Yes :P :) [02:11:55] how do you check that? [02:12:02] select * from user limit 1; [02:12:23] 20121026200049 [02:12:23] Uh [02:12:24] Wait [02:12:30] Aren't we like 3 days late? :| [02:13:06] Or did we have an official opening? [02:13:30] We didn't really... at first editing just threw an exception, but we just were online at some point [02:13:59] there seem to be over 1000 accounts that were created before the opening [02:14:25] My registration time should have that time with a variance of less than 5 seconds (due to the script I used to get user id 1) [02:14:45] I'm confused. especially since I thought I remembered the opening... [02:14:57] Well, there's roughly 4 hours between the creation of the main page [02:15:00] ie when addWiki was run [02:15:18] So the wikis was presumably not accessible till ~8pm when hoo and I were the first 2 users on the site [02:15:37] but yeah, that says 26th October, not 29th October [02:16:00] but 29th is the right date anyway, yeah? [02:16:17] nah, 26th [02:16:19] I dunno [02:16:51] Was the 29th ceremonial or something? [02:17:01] "Registration time:20:00, 26 October 2012 " [02:17:18] [02:12:22] 20121026200049 [02:17:27] That's your user_registration ;) [02:17:47] well, the 29th is when I started on Wikidata, so I'm considering that the start date anyway. meh [02:18:05] Year 1 Complete [02:18:13] Begin Year 2 [02:18:15] I know, I just wasn't sure everyone can read this superb date format... so I thought I rather copy and paste it from the special page (as typing it is to much work, obviously) [02:18:17] Achievement unlocked! [02:18:32] 20121026200049 -> 2012 10 26 2000 49 [02:19:27] http://xkcd.com/1179/ [02:21:17] I just copy pastad it from a database [02:21:22] then added spaces [02:21:33] profit!! [02:22:08] it's a funny thing. chances are, at some point, the pages covering WD's first birthday will be read by quite a number of people interested in the history. (this is, of course, assuming that WD becomes of major importance to the human race. is that a bit too optimistic?) [02:22:36] Indirectly at least [02:23:14] Mostly through google, wolframalpha and things like that, I guess [02:24:04] And that Wikipeida thing [02:24:19] if all of these yield the same result at all times, I suspect that WD might gain some visibility, hm? [02:24:25] Never heard about that, their client probably sucks [02:27:16] it wouldn't take too long for people to wonder why questions to computers yield the same response regardless of which service is used. and the reason for that, young child born however long from now, is this amazing thing called "WIKIDATA"... [02:28:08] that's where all the stuff that people know is stored [02:28:31] except for, you know, the stuff that can't easily be structured. but that doesn't count. [02:28:49] Would be awesome, if we could grow this big sometime :) [02:29:05] quite :) [02:29:43] Next goal is your own db cluster ;) [02:29:57] how long until that happens? [02:30:28] I look forward to the awesome, Wikidata-dominated future. but for now, gtg. Felicxan unuan naskigxtagon al Vikidatumo! [02:32:08] I haven't looked how big the database is in a while [02:32:57] Half the size of dewiki [02:33:22] 128.985031127930 GB [02:33:33] ignoring ES [02:33:54] How much of that is logging? [02:34:02] need to find the right query ;) [02:34:07] enwiki is 747GB [02:34:30] reedy@fenari:~$ wc -l .mysql_history [02:34:30] 3694 .mysql_history [02:34:31] lol [02:35:25] hoo@yarrow:~$ wc -l ./.mysql_history [02:35:25] 6851 ./.mysql_history [02:36:33] I did batshit insane database stuff some time back... building those insane queries was fun :P [02:39:29] http://p.defau.lt/?RJSZOvaMtaDyvKKTftDa3g [02:39:31] 35.5GB [02:39:36] Revisions is 31GB [02:42:17] hm [03:00:55] Anyone know how to edit Wikimapia? [03:01:08] http://wikimapia.org/23822027/Hribac incorrectly says "KwaZulu" [03:01:41] (should be "Primorje-") [03:03:09] do we put half-siblings under the relevant sibling property? [03:12:25] PinkAmpersand: can you create an item for someone just to add them to a statement? [03:12:41] PiRSquared: weren't we discussing this the other week? [03:12:56] my view was that we can't, but policy's definitely ambiguous on the topic [03:13:09] If you were, it wasn't with me. [03:13:22] my argument is that if we allow that, then everyone gets an item [03:13:27] I haven't even edited WD for months, but I was active when it started [03:13:38] oh, right, that was with vogone [03:13:50] Oh, I could see how you could confuse us [03:14:22] anyways, like, let's say you have a distant cousin who's Wikipedia-notable [03:14:35] you could just create items for every person linking the two of you [03:15:34] even if we were to limit it to one degree of separation from someone who has a WP article, I'd still be against it. I mean, I could get an item for being my father's son... and does that really improve the database? does anyone really need to know my biographical details? [03:16:36] Well, can I just add the name in text? [03:16:42] It's someone in an infobox [03:17:02] Is it possible to source an URL without creating an item for a webpage? [03:17:18] yes, you can use the URL property [03:17:26] same for ISBN? [03:17:57] I've been trying to fix random items : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17 [03:18:03] use the ISBN property [03:19:09] PinkAmpersand: would you recommend creating an item for a book (has page on Wikipedia), or just using the ISBN property? [03:19:29] if it has a page on Wikipedia, and doesn't have an item, it should have ojne [03:19:31] *one [03:19:39] okay [03:19:45] (unless it's like a soft redirect) [03:22:04] One more question (sorry, I'm kinda new with phase 2): is it okay to use 'instance of' with an item whose title is plural, which is a list? [03:22:33] instance of (P31): Styles of Chinese martial arts (Q7629468) [03:44:33] I'll just assume it's okay. [06:13:57] there is a new bug whereby the input field blanks ... work around is to cancel and retry ... it can manifest itself several times.. [06:24:04] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56296 [07:13:17] (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Improve active toolbar detection for terms table [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92495 [09:17:37] moin [09:31:04] Hoi aude [09:31:46] the birthday logo is awesome [09:35:09] morning all :) [09:35:54] * addshore waits for his laptop to run chdisk.... [09:36:40] :) [09:36:50] morning DanielK_WMDE__ [09:46:03] 44% grrr [09:54:44] * DanielK_WMDE__ gives addshore a cookie [09:54:54] 98%!!!! [10:09:42] Lydia_WMDE: we discussed supporting claims for properties before - do we have this on the roadmap already? i'm asking because of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Place_of_the_property_documentation [10:10:25] (as far as I can tell, it's mainly a ui issue, the backend should already support it - though we never tried to use non-statement claims before, so there will likely be some fallout) [10:33:56] * aude wonder if anyone is in the office today [10:34:02] hi all [10:34:10] hi SannitAway [10:34:20] hi aude! :) [10:36:38] still no solution for Commons, eh? [10:38:58] aude: we are :) [10:39:16] me henning tobi Abraham [10:41:18] addshore: ah, ok [10:41:27] maybe i come in the afternoon or maybe not [10:42:25] (03PS29) 10Addshore: Extend API to support editing badges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82637 (owner: 10Michał Łazowik) [10:42:33] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 031] Extend API to support editing badges [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82637 (owner: 10Michał Łazowik) [10:44:11] (03PS3) 10Addshore: add tests for MovePageNotice [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91553 (owner: 10Aude) [10:47:11] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Implement EntityTable::removeEntity [extensions/WikibaseQueryEngine] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91860 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:50:11] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine#97 (master - 82f99af : Addshore): The build has errored. [10:50:11] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine/compare/43aad53bf003...82f99afc7732 [10:50:11] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/13201397 [10:50:18] yay [10:52:49] (03PS2) 10Daniel Werner: Some documentation updates [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92422 [10:53:37] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Update bootstrapping code to match changes in WikibaseQueryEngine [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91887 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:54:59] (03CR) 10Addshore: [V: 032] "Failing tests are nothing to do with this change or even this component.." [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91887 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [10:56:43] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] add tests for MovePageNotice [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91553 (owner: 10Aude) [11:00:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: add tests for MovePageNotice [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91553 (owner: 10Aude) [11:00:56] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery#75 (master - 5d4ef5f : Addshore): The build has errored. [11:00:56] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/compare/f4d9995ce93e...5d4ef5f26b00 [11:00:56] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/builds/13201744 [11:11:38] DanielK_WMDE: yes statements on properties is on my radar and there is a bug for it [11:16:40] some scripts don't work anymore (wikidata useful and statement sort) [11:19:00] Pyb: my guess is that this is related we are introducing in preparation of supoorting free re-ordering of statements (and qualifiers and references) [11:19:25] perhaps you can work with Henning_WMDE to fix this [11:19:36] ok ;) [11:19:48] DanielK_WMDE: might also be the deprecation of the main type property [11:20:01] or the change of q -> Q [11:20:16] could be [11:20:26] statement sort very likely though because of sorting changes [11:20:28] though we changed from q to Q quite a while ago [11:20:46] i think they are broken for a while already [11:21:00] at least wikidata useful [11:24:38] no, wikidata useful was fixed for q/Q [12:02:47] hi, I use wikidata for some wikivoyage-he articles. Some items have no Hebrew translation and appear as e.g. Q34004 . How can I fix that? [12:03:59] This is the "Shona" language, for which there is no article in the Hebrew wikipedia. [12:04:31] Is there any way I can add the translation of that string directly into wikidata without creating a wikipedia article? [12:07:43] tzafrir: what you have to do is add a label for Hebrew [12:07:46] that is all [12:08:09] can you tell me what the wv article is ? [12:09:24] GerardM, how do I do that? Add a property? [12:09:40] That's the only top-level "add" I see [12:10:06] what is the URL ? [12:10:09] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] Hide "remove" button when adding a new statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91822 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:10:16] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34004 [12:11:25] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34004?uselang=he add the label [12:11:48] tzafrir what is your user in Wikidata ? [12:12:16] ok. Switched to Hebrew. Thanks [12:12:22] yes [12:12:56] what is your user ? [12:14:13] found it ... I added Hebrew to your Babel info [12:14:32] now Hebrew labels will show [12:14:45] please add more languages as you need them [12:15:16] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hide "remove" button when adding a new statement [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91822 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [12:15:23] (03Abandoned) 10Addshore: Parse lowercase ids in ByPropertyListUnserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91086 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:28:43] tzafrir this one is for you !! http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/10/using-babel-should-be-obvious-in.html [12:31:46] woo ruby lint! [12:33:06] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Hide "remove" button when adding a new statement [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92513 [12:47:54] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Add SQLite Table Reader test for Underscore dbname [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92514 [12:48:30] Anyone knows commons file link of current one year anniversary logo? :P [12:49:22] Revi|AFK: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_cupcake_2.svg [12:49:40] Ty! [12:58:52] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Throw a detailed exception if no fields are here! [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 [12:59:01] Lydia_WMDE: is this on repo or client? [12:59:06] this is client [12:59:23] i think they turned off the arbitrary access restriction [12:59:24] JeroenDeDauw: can you take a look at the last 2 patchs I made for database? [12:59:31] because for them it is not an issue with so little traffic [12:59:41] hopfully they will get us closer to fixing these silly tests [13:00:12] Lydia_WMDE: this restriction applies to our parser function. They might have their own little thing on top of the domain layer [13:00:48] Im not reall up to speed with that stuff we ar doing presentatin wise, such as access restritions in the prperty parser function [13:01:05] we have the restriction in wikibase because of caching [13:01:11] for lua and parser function [13:02:53] addshore: will have a look when i can [13:02:58] Lydia_WMDE I think the Babel templates and their use for multiple labels should be placed 4 prominently somewhere ... [13:03:04] they are very small ;p [13:03:37] GerardM: yes there is a bug that is high prio to make this all more discoverable [13:04:12] Ok ... thanks ... if there is something I can do ... [13:05:14] GerardM: the idea is to have a default box if no babel box is configured and then have a small link below it to a page explaining how to set this up [13:05:26] if you want you could create that help page that is going to be linked to [13:05:46] * Lydia_WMDE looks for the bug [13:06:26] GerardM: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49079 [13:08:26] thanks [14:17:52] addshore: ping!!! [14:19:34] Tobi_WMDE: PONG! [14:19:47] (03PS1) 10Henning Snater: Improve right-* messages qqq documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92529 [14:19:58] (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Improve right-* messages qqq documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92529 [14:20:10] * Mineo steals Tobi_WMDEs and addshores ball [14:29:21] Tobi_WMDE: can no longer play ping pong [14:29:40] (03PS3) 10Henning Snater: Improved right-* messages and their qqq documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92529 [14:29:45] addshore: awww [14:34:04] (03CR) 10Amire80: [C: 031] Improved right-* messages and their qqq documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92529 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [15:28:01] <^d> Gooooood morning wikidata :) [15:28:41] good timezone ^d [15:30:14] <^d> Howdy GerardM [15:30:15] <^d> aude: You happen to be around? [15:30:29] ^d: she just walked in the office :P [15:31:46] <^d> Cool. [15:37:53] hi ^d [15:38:02] <^d> Hi :) [15:38:36] just arrived :) [15:38:45] <^d> I heard, heh [15:38:48] <^d> Any last-minute objections before we pull the trigger in ~20m? [15:39:13] no, although we have a quick backport to do (unrelated) [15:39:25] if you or reedy could do that first? [15:39:32] * aude submitting submodule change [15:39:52] all of the backports [15:40:01] :) [15:45:12] hmmmm, gerrit is super slow [15:46:28] <^d> wfm :\ [15:46:58] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Add SQLite Table Reader test for Underscore dbname [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92514 (owner: 10Addshore) [15:48:53] ok, now it works [15:50:26] brb, going to try and find an audio cable in the garage [15:50:31] k [15:50:34] will we get some nice spiffy functionality as a pressie ? [15:50:52] Lydia_WMDE: around? [15:51:14] addshore: jep [15:51:15] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "No test? :(" [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 (owner: 10Addshore) [15:52:07] <^d> GerardM: You're getting the new search today, optional at first :) [15:52:39] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Hide "remove" button when adding a new statement [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92513 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [15:53:36] yay, top of the first box i lokoked in [15:55:48] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 04-1] Throw a detailed exception if no fields are here! [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 (owner: 10Addshore) [15:55:57] Hi! are any admin here? [15:56:15] I guess so :P [15:56:16] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hide "remove" button when adding a new statement [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92513 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [15:56:22] Guest73337: yep [15:56:34] Hi One moment please [15:59:19] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase#147 (master - c0a02e5 : addshore): The build has errored. [15:59:19] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/compare/573e693ad924...c0a02e560b04 [15:59:19] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseDatabase/builds/13215275 [15:59:47] oh JeroenDeDauw ^^ travis is broken looking for pacages that dont exist on database, query and queryengine :P [16:03:08] Can you please create https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#PTBNP ??? [16:05:38] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56318 is Wikidata related [16:12:22] I need some help from property creators. It is en exception that I am on this irc my user name is [[user:לערי ריינהארט]] I am also using two aliases [[user:gangleri]] and [[user:i18n]] [16:12:26] 10[9] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/user:%D7%9C%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%99_%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%9813 => [16:12:28] 10[10] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/user:gangleri13 => [16:12:30] 10[11] 10https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/user:i18n [16:13:17] <^d> Ok, and the indexing is underway. This is gonna take awhile :) [16:13:31] ok :) [16:18:53] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56320 another search enhancement request that will serve Wikidata well [16:21:01] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/92546/ [16:21:13] Reedy: ^ (or ^d) [16:23:23] I'm getting annoyed with the CyanogenMod gerrit and trying to find things in github replicas [16:24:26] <^d> My math has to be off. [16:24:31] <^d> 138 hours to index wikidata. [16:24:38] wtf? [16:25:42] <^d> Math is hard since they index at a semi-variable rate. Slowest is currently doing 4 pages/s, which means we're looking at 138 hours. [16:25:55] insane! [16:25:56] <^d> (16 mil pages / 8 processes * 4 pages/s) [16:25:58] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery#73 (REL1_22 - aecfb66 : Translation updater bot): The build has errored. [16:25:58] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/compare/REL1_22 [16:25:58] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/builds/13069834 [16:26:02] <^d> But they're not all going that slow. [16:26:12] <^d> Some are going 30-40. [16:26:16] <^d> So math is hard :) [16:26:18] hmmmm [16:27:02] what's the biggest wiki with cirrus? [16:27:14] <^d> Currently? enwikisource. [16:27:20] pretty small then [16:27:29] <^d> wikidatawiki is ~11 times larger [16:27:37] :d [16:28:01] good test for how it all scales then [16:31:53] Guest73337: yes, I'll take it in a minute [16:32:02] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine#95 (REL1_22 - 3ba2633 : jeroendedauw): The build has errored. [16:32:02] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine/compare/REL1_22 [16:32:02] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQueryEngine/builds/13069845 [16:33:39] Thanks SannitAway! [16:35:04] Thanks SannitAway! thereare two more property (with support) proposals pending https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#NTA and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#VLACC [16:35:19] Guest73337: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1005 for PTBNP [16:35:46] please remember to fill in the other labels and descriptions, I made it for English and Italian [16:35:54] Thanks SannitAway! yes it id fro Portugal [16:36:21] I added short url_anchors. The MediaWiki anchors are crapy [16:38:07] ok, I'll approve them in a couple of minutes [16:41:09] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1006 Guest73337 Netherlands done [16:41:22] Thanks [16:42:12] Thanks SannitAway! I watched https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages/Property:P1003 [16:45:32] sgrunt, I can't find the js :| [16:48:10] (03PS6) 10Daniel Kinzler: Consolidate SerializationOptions. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89850 [16:48:20] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [bug 49952] Consolidate SerializationOptions. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89850 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:49:48] Guest73337: is there a link to PTBNP identifier codes? [16:52:12] SannitAway : I do not have links for PTBNP **yet**. I h@cked Romanian urls. It will be much easier for Portugal. I need to ask wikipedians and librarians in Israel. There the link is misssing as well. [16:52:30] umpf [16:52:57] well, if there isn't a proper link... [16:53:05] I mean, that would really be useful [16:55:11] witch one the romanian. It is using two windoes (one main and a popup windeow). FF allways ask to redirect but this is not necessary. I need to write a documentation in Romanian, English, German etc. There are a lot of tasks ... [17:00:56] Guest73337: I know there are a lot of tasks, but in absence of a proper link, I don't think it's a good idea to approve those properties, now I'm trying to fix the problem for the portuguese nat library [17:01:23] those string properties are intended to be used with a link [17:02:10] SannitAway : I assume that http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-b&request=$1&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=NLR10 will generate http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-b&request=000354872&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=NLR10&P_CON_LNG=ENG for the identifier value 000354872 [17:03:43] SannitAway : I assume that http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-b&request=$1&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=NLR10 will generate http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-b&request=000354872&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=NLR10 for the identifier value 000354872 (sorry **without** &P_CON_LNG=ENG ) it does not help [17:04:31] I don't understand what this has to do with the National Library of Portugal, I asked about that [17:08:59] SannitAway : For National Library of Portugal I do not have links yet. [17:09:11] I know, I'm looking for them [17:09:21] Fine! [17:10:50] SannitAway : I left a note at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js#NLR . I need to leave now. Thanks for all your work! [17:10:53] bye [17:10:58] cheers [17:24:54] (03PS4) 10Siebrand: Improved right-* messages and their qqq documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92529 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [17:25:11] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 032] Improved right-* messages and their qqq documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92529 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [17:34:39] edsu: what happened to wikipulse? a lot of 0 during the last two days [17:38:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Improved right-* messages and their qqq documentation [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92529 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [18:29:10] lbenedix: hmm, not sure [18:29:25] lbenedix: i just did a heroku restart and seems to be tallying things now at least https://wikipulse.herokuapp.com/ [18:30:20] lbenedix: happy now? :-) [18:33:48] Hi all. I'm considering to propose a property: "Is a property of" or "is an attribute of", item datatype. Examples: Brain size -> is a property of -> brain ... Color temperature -> is a property of -> color. Salinity -> is a property of -> water. Good idea or not? Already covered? Thoughts? [19:13:11] aude: Still online? Do you have a database of items with coordinates for Wikidata? [19:37:37] Soulkeeper: look at RDF Schema's domain and range properties. [20:13:48] tomorris: thanks, will do [21:16:22] Hey. Happy birthday again! [21:19:05] Hey. [21:19:32] Hey. [21:19:47] What's the tool that people use to tell how many times a specific page has been visited in the past? [21:20:31] stats.grok.se [21:21:16] but there may be others [22:21:18] Hi YairRand. [22:21:37] hi [22:38:22] hi, a quick question I want to use commoswiki link in wikipedia page, Is there a way to call it? like {{#Property:P107}} but for the link not the propoerty [22:39:20] I wish, but I'm not sure [22:44:18] Amir1: using Lua: [22:44:46] mw.wikibase.getEntity().sitelinks.commonswiki.title [22:45:55] or something like that [22:46:52] PiRSquared: Thanks but is there any good manual about using lua in wiki? I tried several times but I wasn't very successful [22:47:10] I just looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikibaseClient/Lua [22:47:29] unfortunately you can only get the current item that wat [22:47:31] *way [22:48:04] that's cool but Imean a general manual about using lua [22:48:07] *I meant [22:49:01] Do you know any other programming language? [22:49:18] python [22:49:37] I can learn lua quickly [22:49:59] maybe some of these help? [22:50:01] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lua [22:50:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:WMF_Tech_Talk_2013-02-28_slides_-_Scribunto_presentation.pdf [22:50:10] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual [22:50:16] [done] [22:50:53] thank you, I was in that wokshop but I forgot some of them I feel I'm stupid :| [22:51:47] No I was in the wikimania workshop not that [22:53:42] Amir1: well, can you give an example of something you want to write in Lua? [22:54:11] I want Wikidata-fied Template:Commons-cat [22:57:09] Amir1: enwiki's already is Wikidata-fied [22:57:18] (to use #property:P373) [22:57:56] I don't want to use P373 and I'm not working on English WP [23:06:00] PiRSquared: I succeed! Thank you so much [23:06:10] oh, okay [23:07:19] I think something like https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Commons works [23:08:32] Amir1: what code did you use? [23:08:57] The title to link of commons category [23:09:07] https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%BE%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86:Wikibase [23:09:15] function p.linkscom(frame) [23:49:51] Magnus answered a load of questions :) tomorrow they will get published :)