[00:44:21] hi [00:45:08] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89850 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [00:45:57] is there an option to change coordinates from DMS to decimal degrees? [01:06:36] (03PS5) 10Aude: Add data type to JSON output. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89852 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [01:06:37] (03PS9) 10Aude: [bug 49952] Consolidate SerializationOptions. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89850 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [01:07:04] (03CR) 10Aude: "rebased in patchset 5" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89852 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [01:17:05] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "I just checked the code, and it looks indeed possible to cause the exception easily via a test. Also looks like this is the wrong kind of " [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 (owner: 10Addshore) [03:21:30] hey peoples, with the new commons links on wikidata, is there any reason why only wikipedia links are included, and wikivoyage are left out? [03:26:06] WV shouldn't [03:26:23] look at, for instance, national parks' items [03:26:43] i mean when you look at the item on commons -- wikipedia links are included, WV are not [03:28:09] bring that up at project chat [03:28:17] take a look at [[:Commons:Category:Macau]] for example [03:36:49] notconfusing: fyi, gangleri stopped by yesterday re https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#VLACC [03:37:21] jeremyb, looking now [03:37:21] notconfusing: he offered https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#NTA as an example of a similar one that had been created [03:38:01] jeremyb, i honestly this think we don't need more AC [03:38:30] notconfusing: welp, you certainly know better than i. maybe you could say that onwiki? :-) [07:34:14] (03PS2) 10Henning Snater: Escaping titles on revision history and diff pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92308 [08:32:51] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Escaping titles on revision history and diff pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92308 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:36:18] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Escaping titles on revision history and diff pages [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92308 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [08:55:16] Hoi, how many males and females exist in Wikidata at this moment ? [08:55:30] (i need this for a presentation [09:01:12] (03CR) 10Addshore: "The result returned from the db first has to make it through the 2 regex matches before getting to this exception." [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 (owner: 10Addshore) [09:08:11] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] "Glad you pointed out that other patchset, the stuff I was going to start working on today would have conflicted horribly!" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92646 (owner: 10Addshore) [09:08:37] (03PS10) 10Addshore: [bug 49952] Consolidate SerializationOptions. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89850 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:23:41] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89850 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:27:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: [bug 49952] Consolidate SerializationOptions. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89850 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [09:38:04] (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Removed unnecessary nodes from "wb-statement" template [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92651 [09:38:16] (03PS4) 10Henning Snater: Removed "toolbarParentSelector" option from toolbarbase widget [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92652 [09:46:21] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Cleanup lib/includes/serializers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92646 [09:47:05] addshore: can you take a look at my comments in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/89850/ ? [09:47:16] or ask DanielK (fix in follow up is fine) [09:48:43] totally missed that! will poke him when / if he is in [09:48:52] if not might fix it in another followup :) [09:50:49] aude: probably also want to use OPT_LANGUAGE_FALLBACK_CHAIN_FACTORY for getLanguageFallbackChains ? [09:51:12] then leave get and set languages as OPT_LANGUAGES [09:51:49] hmm, this are all sort of criss corssy :P [09:55:20] addshore: probably [09:55:24] daniel can fix [09:56:15] heh, I made a patch already but gerrit wont let me push it... [10:00:37] (03Draft1) 10Addshore: use LanguageFallbackChainFacotry option key [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92849 [10:00:55] Tobi_WMDE: so, i am late today :) [10:01:14] don't wait for me. i'll be there in 1/2 hour or so [10:04:09] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 031] "but shall let DanielK also look, in case I am missing something" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92849 (owner: 10Addshore) [10:43:20] (03CR) 10Tobias Gritschacher: [C: 032] (hotfix) Checking for property to lock property input [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92634 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:03:18] (03Restored) 10Aude: Parse lowercase ids in ByPropertyListUnserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91086 (owner: 10Addshore) [11:03:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (hotfix) Checking for property to lock property input [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92634 (owner: 10Henning Snater) [11:03:29] Is the new search still busy buidling its indexes ?? [11:03:35] GerardM: it is [11:04:11] that explains why I have to hunt for Qcodes [11:04:22] any idea when it is done ? [11:05:43] (03PS1) 10Tobias Gritschacher: (hotfix) Checking for property to lock property input [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92856 [11:06:13] hoi lbenedix ... the edit clock stopped again :) [11:08:12] damn thing... I reboot it every 6 hours... maybe I should fix the origin of the error instead of working around it [11:10:22] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Cleanup lib/includes/serializers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92646 [11:10:23] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Fix ByPropertyListUnserializer tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92859 [11:10:23] I do regularly look [11:11:33] (03PS5) 10Aude: Parse lowercase ids in ByPropertyListUnserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91086 (owner: 10Addshore) [11:11:38] addshore: ^ [11:11:52] looks like you have more tests for it [11:12:11] aude: there were never any tests for it :P [11:12:16] even if it looked like there were.. [11:12:29] aude: we should backport and deploy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/92856/ when possible and not wait until next regular deployment [11:12:31] oh, ok [11:12:43] there was a dataprovider that was never called by a test method :) [11:12:49] this fixes a rather annoying JS issue which is occuring since last deployment [11:12:51] addshore: still needs tests for having lowercase property ids in the serialization [11:12:58] that they are accepted [11:13:17] Tobi_WMDE: ok [11:13:24] aude: Ill add a followup ;p [11:14:03] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] (hotfix) Checking for property to lock property input [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92856 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [11:16:12] aude: I will base your patch above on my last patch then write the new testcase :) [11:16:27] addshore: good idea [11:20:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: (hotfix) Checking for property to lock property input [extensions/Wikibase] (mw1.23-wmf1) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92856 (owner: 10Tobias Gritschacher) [11:21:32] (03PS6) 10Addshore: Parse lowercase ids in ByPropertyListUnserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91086 [11:21:33] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Fix ByPropertyListUnserializer tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92859 [11:21:34] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Add test cases for By PropertyList lowercase keys [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92861 [11:21:35] aude ^^ [11:22:58] yay! [11:23:10] and everything passed localy so woo! ;p [11:46:01] (03PS7) 10Henning Snater: QuantityType UI implementation [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91829 [11:46:35] (03PS1) 10Aude: Split memcached for Wikibase diff view body content by lang [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92863 [11:48:01] (03PS2) 10Aude: Split memcached for Wikibase diff view body content by lang [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92863 [11:49:30] (03PS3) 10Aude: Split memcached for Wikibase diff view body content by lang [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92863 [11:51:12] (03CR) 10Aude: "note to reviewer: this depends on I22bf4e70 which is merged into core. You might need to pull latest master of core for this patch to be " [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92863 (owner: 10Aude) [11:56:22] (03PS1) 10Addshore: more testcases for ByPropertyListSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92865 [11:58:01] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Cleanup lib/includes/serializers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92646 (owner: 10Addshore) [11:58:40] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Fix ByPropertyListUnserializer tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92859 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:00:19] hashar +11012030 points for getting lanthanum working ;p [12:00:41] addshore: and I might be able to run // tests next week [12:00:52] [= [12:02:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Cleanup lib/includes/serializers [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92646 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:02:37] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Parse lowercase ids in ByPropertyListUnserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91086 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:02:42] merge everything! [12:03:11] [= [12:03:20] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Add test cases for By PropertyList lowercase keys [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92861 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:03:52] * addshore also adds aude to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/92865/ ;p [12:03:58] hah [12:04:22] ah, yes [12:04:47] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "looks good" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92865 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:06:07] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix ByPropertyListUnserializer tests [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92859 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:10:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Parse lowercase ids in ByPropertyListUnserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91086 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:13:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add test cases for By PropertyList lowercase keys [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92861 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:17:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: more testcases for ByPropertyListSerializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92865 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:26:26] DanielK_WMDE_: hey, could you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82637/ ? [12:37:11] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] "looks good and good to see "q($expected, $actual);" go away :)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90876 (owner: 10Addshore) [12:37:37] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Further cleanup of serlization classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92868 [12:41:34] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adding and removing claims now shows a full diff [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90876 (owner: 10Addshore) [13:49:56] (03PS8) 10Addshore: Diff sitelinks now link to the relevant page [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90896 [14:13:20] (03CR) 10Aude: "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90896 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:14:10] (03CR) 10Addshore: "(2 comments)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90896 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:17:33] (03CR) 10Aude: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92868 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:18:26] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 [14:20:53] (03PS9) 10Addshore: Diff sitelinks now link to the relevant page [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90896 [14:22:16] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:22:30] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Further cleanup of serlization classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92868 [14:24:48] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Further cleanup of serlization classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92868 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:25:30] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 032] Diff sitelinks now link to the relevant page [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90896 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:25:43] * aude grabs all the chocolate :) [14:25:57] finished adding information to all the 292 grand viziers of the ottoman empire ... each one was at least 5 statements [14:26:00] haha [14:26:02] most were more [14:27:01] aude .. more https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%93 for you and the rest of the team [14:27:05] :D [14:27:24] choclate dipped in chocolate!!! [14:28:12] (03PS5) 10Daniel Kinzler: Introducing QuantityParser and DecimalParser [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 [14:28:22] Danwe: --^ [14:28:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Introducing QuantityParser and DecimalParser [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [14:31:41] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Further cleanup of serlization classes [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92868 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:32:30] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 [14:34:25] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Diff sitelinks now link to the relevant page [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90896 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:36:53] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:40:31] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Throw a detailed exception if no fields are here! [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 [14:40:32] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Implement SchemaReadException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92878 [14:40:44] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Throw a detailed exception if no fields are here! [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:41:01] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement SchemaReadException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92878 (owner: 10Addshore) [14:41:12] whahaa [14:43:36] (03PS3) 10Aude: Cleanup and improve RepoLinker [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91601 [14:43:58] (03CR) 10Aude: [C: 04-1] "rebased. still need to re-add tests" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91601 (owner: 10Aude) [14:46:38] Danwe: > https://github.com/addwiki/addframe/blob/c60702dd7a90f5f74566f53e3ee8ee310edd0321/bot/private/crosswiki.php [14:56:32] Lydia_WMDE: meeting? [14:56:38] JeroenDeDauw: jep [14:57:43] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Implement SchemaReadException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92878 [14:58:21] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Throw a detailed exception if no fields are here! [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 [14:58:28] JeroenDeDauw: ^^ [15:00:00] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(1 comment)" [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92648 (owner: 10Aude) [15:44:14] Hi! I need some help. [16:18:29] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Implement SchemaReadException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92878 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:18:47] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Throw a detailed exception if no fields are here! [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92515 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:26:44] (03PS1) 10Addshore: rename Schema ReadException => ReadingException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92892 [16:26:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] rename Schema ReadException => ReadingException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92892 (owner: 10Addshore) [16:28:11] (03PS2) 10Addshore: rename Schema ReadException => ReadingException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92892 [16:29:17] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: "(2 comments)" [extensions/DataValues] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89849 (owner: 10Daniel Kinzler) [16:29:52] (03PS3) 10Addshore: rename Schema ReadException => ReadingException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92892 [16:30:58] JeroenDeDauw: ^^ [16:34:25] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Decrease TravisCI builds from 10 to 8 [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92893 [16:39:52] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] rename Schema ReadException => ReadingException [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92892 (owner: 10Addshore) [17:04:14] (03PS1) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add link to readme [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92904 [17:05:32] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Throw exception if no results are returned [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92905 [17:07:08] Hoi, I get repeatedly internal errors when I am trying to save [17:07:13] something is amiss [17:07:20] what errors? :O [17:07:37] we are aware [17:07:42] it is because of the new search [17:08:00] we need to change config to accommodate more demand [17:08:19] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add link to readme [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92904 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:08:22] ok [17:18:59] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Format table name when reading sqlite definition [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92909 [17:19:45] (03PS2) 10Addshore: Format table name when reading sqlite definition [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92909 [17:20:06] JeroenDeDauw: ^^ that could maybe possibly fix it [17:21:09] addshore: also something going wrong here https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/jobs/13069836 [17:21:15] Looks unrelated [17:21:23] And something with the setup there [17:21:38] I just tried doing an insatll with Composer locally and the tests run fine [17:21:44] hmm [17:22:45] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] Throw exception if no results are returned [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92905 (owner: 10Addshore) [17:22:53] (03PS3) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Format table name when reading sqlite definition [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92909 (owner: 10Addshore) [17:24:24] (03CR) 10Jeroen De Dauw: [C: 032] "(1 comment)" [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92909 (owner: 10Addshore) [17:24:35] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Decrease TravisCI builds from 10 to 8 [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92893 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:25:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Format table name when reading sqlite definition [extensions/WikibaseDatabase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92909 (owner: 10Addshore) [17:30:14] (03PS2) 10Jeroen De Dauw: Add link to readme [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92904 [17:30:22] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Add link to readme. [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92904 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:30:41] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Add link to readme! [extensions/WikibaseQuery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92904 (owner: 10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:47:03] hello there [17:47:13] somone here who can help me with using wikidata? [17:48:39] what is your question? [17:49:14] i want to bring the [17:49:31] programming languages relation "influenced" by into wikidata [17:49:35] would that be possible? [17:50:14] you have to discuss on wikidata to add a new property [17:50:45] you mean I'm in the wrong channel? [17:50:51] no [17:50:53] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal [17:51:14] you mean I'can add a property on my own [17:51:15] ? [17:51:27] is there allready a property "influenced by" [17:51:28] ? [17:51:38] yes [17:51:50] how do I search that on the page? [17:51:56] so you just have to add it [17:52:00] ah [17:52:01] there [17:52:02] is! [17:52:11] magnus showed me: [17:52:13] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P737 [17:52:25] and https://t.co/GAZOwOpFOq [17:52:40] http://lbenedix.monoceres.uberspace.de/screenshots/dxmc3ot0io_2013-10-31_18.52.14.png [17:52:50] hu? [17:52:50] that link you want to click to add a new statement [17:53:14] ah ok [17:53:34] under the existing statements [17:57:00] ok cool [17:57:04] that worked [17:57:29] let me guess there is no "semi" - auto migration tool for properties like that from wikipedia? [17:57:41] what do you mean by auto migration? [17:57:56] all wikipedia pages with the tag [17:57:58] there are bots importing things from wikipedia [17:58:19] programming language which contain that [17:58:39] I think the most bots are using the pywikipedia framework [17:59:26] ~90% of the edits in wikidata are made by bots [17:59:35] yes that would make sense [18:00:19] do you have any documentation on how to use that tool? [18:00:34] first: you should get a botaccount [18:00:49] omg... [18:01:21] otherwise you would get blocked after some edits [18:01:31] yes its a security thing [18:05:54] (03PS3) 10Addshore: Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 [18:05:55] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Add byPropertyListSerialization Options [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92916 [18:09:45] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 (owner: 10Addshore) [18:09:50] hmm [18:09:57] +10 for random failuers! [18:10:08] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add byPropertyListSerialization Options [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92916 (owner: 10Addshore) [18:16:18] [travis-ci] wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery#76 (master - da51b09 : jeroendedauw): The build passed. [18:16:18] [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/compare/5d4ef5f26b00...da51b09228a2 [18:16:18] [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikibaseQuery/builds/13328751 [18:24:04] lbenedix: do you know any wikipedia/wikidata workshops which are located near frankfurt am main [18:24:16] lbenedix: so I could learn there how to use the bot stuff? [18:26:57] I'm not sure... there was a workshop in amsterdam hackathon in may [18:27:29] there is a #pywikipediabot channel, maybe you can find someone there [18:27:40] mich ... exactly what I wanted to say [18:28:00] ok thanks I give it a try [18:28:01] importing based on wikipedia categories was really easy [18:28:11] with that tool? [18:28:16] pywikipedia [18:28:23] ok [18:28:38] here you can find the slides from the workshop: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 [18:28:56] (03PS4) 10Addshore: Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 [18:29:05] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 (owner: 10Addshore) [18:29:23] "Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon" [18:31:22] (03PS5) 10Addshore: Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 [18:32:30] mich: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pywikipediabot/Hackathon_2013 [18:34:46] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement List Serializer and Unserializer. [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 (owner: 10Addshore) [18:39:31] (03PS5) 10Bene: (bug 47496) Use (hidden) preference for copyright acknowledgment [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89607 [18:44:27] edsu: I get a TypeError when running wikipulse [18:46:46] (03PS2) 10Tobias Gritschacher: Add byPropertyListSerialization Options [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92916 (owner: 10Addshore) [18:48:35] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Add byPropertyListSerialization Options [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92916 (owner: 10Addshore) [18:48:59] lbenedix: can you paste into a gist? [18:49:47] lbenedix: i did update the wikichanges module that it uses, so maybe something needs to be updated in wikipulse [18:50:32] (03PS6) 10Addshore: Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 [18:51:33] http://pastebin.com/MUJ3m2jc [18:53:03] and it seems to ignore the config json... i removed all wikipedias I dont need and it still joins all the rc-channels [18:53:55] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement List Serializer and Unserializer [extensions/Wikibase] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/92873 (owner: 10Addshore) [19:36:26] lbenedix: hmm, looks like a new bug irc-js ; it's ocasionlly throwing an exception when parsing an incoming irc message [19:37:01] lbenedix: i think you found why the heroku app is periodically stopping :) [19:38:12] yay [19:39:07] what is about the config.json? do i have to do more than deleting the lines i dont want from "wikipedias"? [20:02:32] lbenedix: if you git pull you should get the fix for the config [20:02:55] lbenedix: as for the irc-js bug, i created a ticket https://github.com/gf3/IRC-js/issues/63 [20:03:17] lbenedix: i'll let you know if i hear anything, might try to fix it myself and use my fork as a dependency until it is fixed [20:09:15] thx [20:13:50] Can someone explain why Q40 changed from being about Spain to being about Austria? [20:13:57] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q40&dir=prev&action=history [20:14:14] I'm assuming it's some kind of import error, or there was a duplicate for Spain [20:14:59] huh [20:15:20] spain is q31 [20:15:24] pretty sure, from memory [20:15:49] Spain is Belgium? [20:15:55] errr q29 [20:15:58] something like that [20:16:07] ah [20:16:29] must have been duplicate [20:16:40] and people "recycled" items then [20:17:20] Reedy created both within an hour [20:17:27] hah [20:17:41] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q29&oldid=73 [20:17:48] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q40&oldid=130 [20:17:52] btw. what was Property:P12? [20:18:23] lbenedix: "province" [20:18:37] why was it deleted and not marked as "dont use"? [20:19:19] replaced by P131 [20:20:11] lbenedix: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Property%3AP12×tamp=20130223120349&diff=prev [20:20:46] Permission error [20:20:47] oh, you're not an admin. Sorry [20:21:27] The edit was basically: User:Multichill 12:03, 23 Feb 2013 (UTC): "Changed [en] description: DEPRECATED, please use Property:P131 (located in administrative unit" [20:21:40] *")" [20:24:03] lbenedix: does that answer your question? [20:24:30] yes [20:24:37] I'm not a fan of deleting things [20:24:56] there was another property with unclear meaning, but I forgot the ID [20:25:38] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inclusionism? [20:26:52] that would be the correct buzzword [20:30:05] PiRSquared: Que? [20:30:29] multichill: I was just telling lbenedix (a non-admin) the content of this edit: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Property%3AP12×tamp=20130223120349&diff=prev [20:30:49] Oh, right, it was a bit short [20:30:57] He or she asked for the reason it was deleted. [20:31:14] he ;) [20:33:31] Is it okay to use "occupation: foobarologist" and set field of work to "foobarology"? [20:33:34] Is only one needed? [20:33:54] (is it better to use "occupation: scientist" with field "foobarology"?) [20:34:49] Is it even okay to do "instance of" foobarologist? [20:53:02] Anyone? [20:53:38] why not "Scientist" with a qualifier: foobarology? [20:54:02] what qualifier? [20:54:20] instance of? [20:54:38] Is that the recommended way to do it? [20:54:46] I have no idea [20:55:06] but I think a qualifier is the right concept [20:55:43] instance of: scientist, occupation: foobarology [20:57:12] but i'm neither a wikidata developer nor a frequent wikidata editor, just a scientist making funny stats on wikidata [20:57:25] :-) [20:58:44] What kind of stats, exactly? [20:59:10] btw. there are almost no qualifiers in wikidata.... ~24.000 for ~16.000.000 statements [20:59:50] I guess I missed the part where properties and qualifiers were introduced. I was mostly active in the first few months of WD. [21:02:03] aude: heh, I guess I noticed this a year ago too: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:PiRSquared17/Duplicates&diff=1085&oldid=1079 :P [21:02:16] heh [21:03:36] last stats were: editcount per usergroups; nr. of items statements and qualifiers; new editors per day, labels/descriptions per language; nr. of sources used in wikidata [21:04:08] we're looking for the right place to publish it and we need to make nice graphs and stuff [21:05:02] lbenedix: are you planning to publish it in a journal? [21:05:39] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research might also be interested [21:06:26] I only gather the data and create nice graphs [21:09:59] and there is this little thingy: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/benedix/wikidatameter/ [21:32:01] hashar: ohi [21:32:16] hashar: http://www.bn2vs.com/blog/2013/10/31/mediawiki-extension-installer/ [21:32:49] hashar: having thought about the whole thing a bit more, I think core should just not act as a package [21:33:01] hashar: this is broken anyway, so no use in supporting that [21:33:16] hashar: and if we do not suport that, we can install extensions in core by having users modify composer.json [21:42:55] hey Jeroen_OnFaildow :) [21:43:58] Jeroen_OnFaildow: I disagree that getting composer is a political issue :-] [21:44:03] it is not a priority for sure though [21:44:09] nice work ! [21:46:18] Jeroen_OnFaildow: now we need the same inside mw/core directly :-] [21:59:14] hashar: doing so is technically very trivial [21:59:24] hashar: what stands in the way is people that don't like it [21:59:28] so political issue... [22:44:02] Jeroen_OnFaildow: if you have some time, write down a RFC about composer ? [22:44:27] it is not really a priority to me, just wanted to experiment with it a bit but never intended to push it forward :/ [22:44:49] if you take the lead, I will happily support you and persuade other folks that is the right way to go [22:44:58] aka to you the tech side, and to me the political drama :D [22:45:01] if that works for you [22:53:42] hashar: RFC about composer? [23:11:27] hashar: basically two thigns need to happen. we need to have core stop being a package itself, and then we need to make certain stuff be installed in /extensions [23:11:34] the second step is not initially required [23:11:43] libs can end up in /vendor all they want [23:12:00] the first step is trivial, thoguh I don't see how it will happen [23:12:49] hashar: I'll just look into implementing both steps and then submitting a commit for RFC [23:13:08] Perhaps I'm being cinical, though it seems quite guaranteed it's going to get a pile of - :D [23:13:56] Sky2042: yes [23:14:41] Jeroen_OnFaildow: I wrote the mediawiki_installer wrapper in composer, that should put mediawiki/foo-bar under extensions/FooBar [23:16:11] Jeroen_OnFaildow: the reason I added a composer.json in core was to let people easily install / add extension there [23:16:20] so you could edit and then composer install [23:16:33] Jeroen_OnFaildow < wtf - I shut down this box [23:17:12] hashar: yeah, so it seems the work is done then [23:17:20] \O/ [23:17:21] hashar: is this mediawiki_installer already in Composer? [23:17:28] yeah did that a while back [23:17:44] JeroenDeDauw: https://github.com/composer/installers/pull/37 [23:17:58] hashar: the issue then now is soly that composer.json is not in .gitignore [23:18:07] hi, anyone? [23:18:13] And there is at least one guy that wants it to not be in there [23:18:22] JeroenDeDauw: maybe rename the existing one to composer.json-sample ? [23:18:28] "mr loudmounth", forgot his actual nick [23:18:31] so folks can copy paste and amend at will [23:18:46] What is the recommended way to store someone's field (in science)? [23:18:46] JeroenDeDauw: also I wanted to be able to distribute mw/core via packagist [23:18:49] Is it okay to use "occupation: foobarologist" and set field of work to "foobarology"? [23:18:59] or should it be "instance of" foobarologist? [23:19:01] hashar: you cannot have both without changing stuff somehow [23:19:06] Or use a qualifier? [23:19:13] JeroenDeDauw: so one could create a composer.json referencing mediawiki/core, then have it installed using composer [23:19:20] hashar: though why would you want to distribute it via packagist? I don't see how that would make much sense [23:19:52] hashar: yes, though making this is requirement means changing the default installation workflow [23:19:56] I don't see that happen [23:20:10] If we make that a prerequiste, stuff will not happen, I'm quite certain of that [23:21:13] JeroenDeDauw: composer require mediawiki/core [23:21:14] :D [23:21:17] done. [23:21:22] no more documentation [23:21:34] I copy pasted my experiment at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Composer [23:21:44] hashar: I'm not sure what this actually solves [23:21:58] it makes it super trivial to fetch a mw version :] [23:21:59] hashar: I know what you proposed here and have tried this myself [23:22:08] hashar: it is already trivial [23:22:26] my idea was that eventually we could have a wikibase/wikideploy that would require mediawiki/core and all the extensions [23:22:37] hashar: and people tend to use MW as an application, not as a component in another application. Not surprising given the later won't work [23:22:42] making it trivial to setup a wikibase with a single line [23:23:29] hashar: this would be nice to have. its less important then having the first step of being able to install extensions though [23:23:36] another evil plan was to use it in prod, so we could just edit the mw/core composer.json to bump the version, then run composer and have everything sorted out for us [23:23:43] And like I said, if you want tthat first, I predict nothing is going to happen [23:24:02] I am not sure how they conflict ? [23:24:18] .... [23:25:20]