[11:07:03] Why are you so skeptical about art? Some ANNs create quite artistical works, they also can творить (create?) in a manner of well-known authors. What about sense... It is hard to find it even at human authors :) (re @amire80: I am super-cynical almost every time I hear an engineer, an entrepreneur, or a politician saying that "such and such thing will be done by AI in a few years and humans won't be needed". Driving� [11:23:12] I'm not skeptical about art, I'm certain about it. If I tell this neural network that their artistic work is ugly, will it become sad? If not, then it's not artistic work. (re @infovarius: Why are you so skeptical about art? Some ANNs create quite artistical works, they also can творить (create?) in a manner of well-known authors. What about sense... It is hard to find it even at human authors :)) [11:23:52] A human artist who creates a nonsense work knows that it's nonsense. An AI doesn't. [11:34:07] why do you have to feel sad if someone says it's ugly for it to count as art? [11:34:40] if someone deliberately creates something ugly (e.g. to express negative emotions), they would probably expect other people to say that it's ugly and therefore not be sad if they do [11:35:48] or they might be doing it for their own benefit and not care if other people hate it, or they might be aware that people have different tastes and therefore not everyone will like it... [11:35:55] I issued a preprint of our new work on using logical constraints implemented using SPARQL queries to validate the COVID-19 information in Wikidata. We are sending the research paper to Artificial Intelligence Review. We look forward to receiving your comments. [11:36:31] https://zenodo.org/record/4008359 [11:42:43] All of these are indeed possibilities that humans can choose to do. https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/kwhxw9 is a somewhat famous example of a play made by an actress who knows that most people hate it, and she keeps doing it anyway. She chooses to do it. AI doesn't choose. (re @Nikki: or they might be doing it for their own benefit and not care if other people hate it, or they might be aware that people have different t [11:44:29] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/f38f30ec/mp4.mp4 [11:44:53] — Why, Mr Anderson? [11:44:54] — Because I choose to. [21:34:31] @vrandecic I will be interested in seeing your opinions about this paper. (re @Csisc1994: https://zenodo.org/record/4008359) [21:34:37] Thank you