[10:17:03] functions.wikimedia.org domain name can also work for Wikifunctions. [10:17:22] Not only for Wikimedia Functions as shown at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Wiki_of_functions_naming_contest/Names [10:17:51] As a reminder, Wikispecies domain name is already species.wikimedia.org [10:18:44] Also, lambda.wikimedia.org, code.wikimedia.org, fusion.wikimedia.org and codex.wikimedia.org can work. [13:08:34] Yes, sure, but why would we want a third level domain? [13:27:34] To centralize Wikimedia Projects at wikimedia.org domain name. (re @vrandecic: Yes, sure, but why would we want a third level domain?) [13:28:12] This allows to have all the Wikimedia Projects at one place. [13:29:17] but why do we want that? [13:31:47] and I can't imagine people agreeing to move all the other projects to something.wikimedia.org, so it won't be centralised anyway [13:32:19] (imagine the arguments if we tried to do it with wikipedia... 😬) [13:32:46] :D [13:34:01] There is precedent for it amongst non-language-specific projects. [13:34:13] Commons and Wikispecies, for example [13:34:23] Then again, Wikidata and MediaWiki are outliers in that one too [13:34:32] Yes [13:34:51] We didn't have a task strategy there, it seems [13:35:45] Wikidata was originally proposed as data.wikimedia.org iirc - I'm glad that changed! [13:36:19] I’d be up for wikicommons.org :) [13:36:28] there's also meta (out of the 5 things in the "other" sitelinks section in wikidata) [13:37:00] eh, I wasn't going to mention meta/incubator/wikitech/etc, because they're much more "internal" things, rather than explicit projects [13:37:09] if we'll be able to add sitelinks to wikilambda, then clearly it should have its own domain to make it a nicely balanced 3 each ;) [13:37:50] I'm not arguing for or against either approach, just pointing out what already exists :) [13:39:08] If you ask me, Wikimedia would be a better name for that project, but now I probably might be kicked out of this room (re @lucaswerkmeister: I’d be up for wikicommons.org :)) [13:39:24] lol [13:39:49] in a vacuum, yes that would make sense, but I think it’s a bit late for that now :) [13:39:57] heh, I'd actually agree with that, but yeah, it's a bit late :P [13:40:25] ohhh because of "media"... that took me a minute to understand >_< [13:41:06] Though if the foundation rebrand to Wikipedia Foundation happens, then it might make it a bit easier to rename Commons :P [13:41:27] Indeed, we could create that vacuum [13:41:34] oh now we’re getting into dangerous territory [13:42:24] that wouldn't be confusing at all :P [13:44:10] Five years down the road, and it wouldn't be confusing anymore [13:44:34] you say that like all the existing mentions will go away :P [13:44:44] Particularly because Commons uses the Wikimedia second level domain already anyway [13:45:08] I'm good at wishful thinking [13:47:18] Well, they will be from the Before-World. You know, before The Incident, and before we scorch the sky. So they won't really hold any significance in After-World (re @Nikki: you say that like all the existing mentions will go away :P) [14:31:51] I like that. Follows the pattern of commons.wikimedia.org (re @Csisc1994: functions.wikimedia.org domain name can also work for Wikifunctions.) [16:30:43] lol (re @vrandecic: If you ask me, Wikimedia would be a better name for that project, but now I probably might be kicked out of this room) [17:54:06] But what should the WMF be named then? Wikipedia? 🤪🤭 (re @vrandecic: Indeed, we could create that vacuum) [17:55:35] 😂 What a great call to inaction. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/ee8f7587/file_1124.jpg [17:55:54] `/me grins. [17:56:34] Wikipedia Foundation, yes. It's by far our best known brand. But that's just my own opinion. [17:59:44] Third-level domains are also a horrible hack because of the mix of security concerns, so bloat the payload of every page view on every wiki (in a way that a new second-level domain does slightly), and adds complexity (which a new second-level domain doesn't). [20:15:39] Newsletter #4 is out: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Updates/2020-10-22 [20:24:01] I proposed to deal with this at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Strategy_and_Branding_-_A_viewpoint.pdf (re @vrandecic: We didn't have a task strategy there, it seems) [20:24:26] It is up to Branding Team and Board of Trustees to decide [20:26:32] I was talking about 2003/2004, when we really didn't have a strategy, and created things like Commons, Wikispecies, Wikinews, and WMF :D [20:41:01] I see. (re @vrandecic: I was talking about 2003/2004, when we really didn't have a strategy, and created things like Commons, Wikispecies, Wikinews, and WMF :D) [20:41:33] Even in the new one, it has not been evocated. [20:44:43] Quite funny (re @markus_goellnitz: ) [20:45:43] Discussion about the domain name of the project can be delayed after the second round.