[16:39:47] <nkomura>	brion: do you have a moment?
[16:40:26] <brion>	sure, what's up
[16:40:36] <nkomura>	hey
[16:40:42] <nkomura>	since we have trevor and roan online
[16:40:54] <TrevorParscal>	HI!
[16:40:55] <nkomura>	i wanted us to discuss the readiness for tomorrow's deployment
[16:41:25] <nkomura>	do you have any concerns or any outstanding issues you would like us to address?
[16:41:57] <nkomura>	Trevor and Roan, please chime in if there are things to be discussed
[16:42:18] <TrevorParscal>	RTL is still broken in some browsers
[16:42:25] <nkomura>	right
[16:42:34] <TrevorParscal>	So, any deployment in the immediate future needs to be limited to Left-to-right languages only
[16:44:04] <brion>	:(
[16:44:13] <brion>	well
[16:44:19] <brion>	we're only deploying opt-in right?
[16:44:29] <TrevorParscal>	I am still working hard on resolving those issues of course.
[16:44:33] <TrevorParscal>	yes
[16:44:33] <brion>	any reason not to "let it all hang out" and get more people banging on those tests?
[16:45:36] <TrevorParscal>	Let it all hang out is totally fine, but if we know the navigation is not rendering properly, we could potentially put RTL users in a situation where they are unable to turn the skin off...
[16:45:43] <TrevorParscal>	That's pretty scary
[16:46:08] <nkomura>	brion: current compatibility matrix is found here http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Releases/Acai/Compatibility_Matrix
[16:46:18] <TrevorParscal>	We can still collect feedback about our RTL issues on http://prototype.wikimedia.org/ar.wikipedia.org
[16:47:30] <brion>	TrevorParscal: that's what big warning messages are for ;)
[16:47:37] <brion>	and you can always turn it off with a useskin on the preferences link
[16:47:44] <brion>	(maybe give people a link to bookmark :D)
[16:48:12] <nkomura>	No RTL navigation support in IE7 is a big draw back IMHO
[16:48:29] <brion>	hmm, ie7 still broken? yeah that kinda sucks
[16:48:40] <nkomura>	but RTL users who opt-in AND using Vector is very small portion
[16:48:53] <TrevorParscal>	brion: yeah, I'm working on it
[16:48:57] <brion>	sure, let's block em out from those languages for now. should be easy enough
[16:49:12] <TrevorParscal>	I had a hack working, but it was a hack, and I'm working on a good way to handle this rather than just hacking it
[16:50:24] <TrevorParscal>	Do we have a list of RTL languages on hand?
[16:52:25] <nkomura>	lemme check with cary
[16:54:42] <brion>	TrevorParscal: http://pastebin.com/m6e0637e6
[16:55:26] <TrevorParscal>	grep FTW!
[16:56:07] <brion>	:D
[16:56:10] <TrevorParscal>	now to just interpolate that data with the size of the wikis and monthly access statistics
[16:56:28] <TrevorParscal>	to get a feel for how many people are left out until I get my RTL solution done
[16:56:30] <TrevorParscal>	:)
[16:57:04] <TrevorParscal>	quick answer small portion of ridiculously large amount of people
[16:57:12] *TrevorParscal 	gets back to work
[19:20:00] <brion-lunch>	parutron: lunch?
[19:20:35] <parutron>	sure - where are you headed?
[19:20:51] <brion-lunch>	who knows man
[19:20:53] <brion-lunch>	who knows
[19:21:44] <parutron>	somewhere faster rather than slower would be rad - mexico au parc?
[19:22:03] <brion-lunch>	sure
[19:22:05] <brion-lunch>	ok let's go
[19:22:18] <parutron>	meet you there in 10 min?
[19:22:27] <brion-lunch>	sure
[20:41:42] <Danny_B>	hi there
[21:06:47] <brion>	hiiii Danny_B
[21:27:46] <nkomura>	brion: shall we tentatively set the time for tomorrow's production deployment?
[21:28:01] <nkomura>	i want to make sure that we are all available online
[21:32:04] <brion>	all-staff runs 10-12
[21:32:12] <brion>	afternoon sounds good then :D
[21:37:55] <nkomura>	sounds good
[22:30:21] <nkomura>	look!
[22:30:22] <nkomura>	http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[22:31:59] <nkomura>	vector is live on the usability wiki!