[16:54:31] TrevorParscal: Did you see Domas disabling OptIn because of performance issues? [16:54:43] Apparently adding the Use Beta link for anons takes 1% of cluster time [16:54:51] And if you ask Domas to fix it, this is what you get ^^ [16:55:18] Whoopty doo [16:55:26] 1% cluster time is just what it takes! [16:57:03] it looks enabled to me [16:57:17] when was it disabled? [16:57:44] 9:45am - hmm [16:58:28] I'm off to Erik Z's talk now [16:59:23] dude, he can't just remove it like that [16:59:39] what the hell is going on? (laughs in frustration) [17:04:26] TrevorParscal: Complain to domas then, or to Brion who's kind of like his boss and stuff [17:04:39] Or even better, tell Naoko and she'll Japanese martial-arts his ass [17:04:48] (Yeah he's twice as tall but that shouldn't matter) [17:11:28] Brion isn't exactly Domas' boss, since Domas is a volunteer. [17:11:40] But he can overrule him, of course. [17:11:58] Domas does stuff like this sometimes. But on the other hand, without him we'd probably need at least three times as many servers. :) [17:14:10] Yes, that's true [18:26:27] RoanKattouw: watching your presentation [18:26:33] you rock! [18:27:23] "screen scrape and I will kill you" - paraphrasing here [18:28:35] i love the videos [18:28:42] this is a great conf! [18:31:18] heh [18:31:23] Isn't my head like a pixel? [18:31:29] there is video ? [18:31:31] And the audio sucky quality and all that? [18:31:38] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/wikimania/dia1/video-f/theora/200908261616-Roan_Kattouw-The_MediaWiki_Bot_API.ogg [18:31:44] thedj: Go to the schedule page, videos are linked from there [18:31:47] audio is pretty good [18:31:51] Only for yesterday's talks though [18:31:58] Yeah my laptop audio sucks so I was unable to try [18:32:01] you have 4 or 5 pixels for a head [18:32:07] hehe yeah that sucks right [18:32:21] wow, that's a lot of video. [18:32:27] The vid is only like 31 M for 45ish mins so it could/should probably be bigger [18:32:28] this is all coming from the prototype server... [18:32:30] he he he [18:32:33] Yeah :P [18:32:36] michale dale at work there [18:32:40] *michael [18:32:52] Yeah Mike kinda coordinated these guys [18:33:01] Which works perfectly because not all of them spoke English [18:33:11] yeah, that does work nicely [18:38:22] TrevorParscal: Do you have an easy way to find out the resolution of that video? [18:39:02] 320x240 [18:39:13] hmm, some videos are cut short, and others have very weird audio ... [18:39:29] on a mac you can press command+shift+4 and do a region screenshot [18:40:32] Hmm [18:40:32] thedj: You should probably send your comments to Michael Dale who will relay them to the folks doing the actual work [18:40:32] Right that's pretty low [18:40:51] descent for web streaming [18:41:02] hi everyone [18:41:05] hi [18:41:07] RobH talk, and Heiko's talk are at least broken. [18:41:24] Yeah Rob's talk is at half speed right? (the audio)( [18:41:27] That's what I heard [18:41:30] yup [18:43:47] OK I told the video guys and they're looking into Rob's talk [18:44:15] RoanKattouw: Naoko's talk is coming up soon here [18:44:25] I can't wait to see the video [18:44:27] Yeah [18:44:32] There is supposed to be a live stream [18:44:39] in english? [18:44:50] http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Streaming [18:44:51] Hopefully [18:45:01] From what I heard it was in Spanish yesterday [18:45:23] yeah [18:45:43] still is [18:45:58] well, this guy is speaking spanish I think... [18:46:42] coffee break i see [18:51:30] OK they're gonna re-encode Rob's talk [18:52:15] I really want to use this API with a fully ajax UI... [18:57:52] RoanKattouw: dude, rocking that console in your presentation! [18:57:54] love it [18:57:57] heh [18:58:02] Naoko's started now [18:58:07] awesome [18:59:45] live stream is behind allot I guess... still says coffee break [18:59:53] Right [18:59:59] But that might be because of the time [19:00:07] It's in room D if that helps [19:01:11] there's only 1 stream -> http://stream.wikimedia.org.ar/ [19:01:27] do her slides look nice? [19:01:46] they are google docs slides... i was unsure how that would pan out [19:02:57] Naoko: "Roan studies in European time and works in Pacific Standard Time. I don't think he ever sleeps." [19:03:09] ha ha ha [19:03:30] she's awesome! [19:03:44] do you like the picture I used for you? [19:04:01] i took that in the bart station the day you went home [19:04:11] Ah yes [19:04:18] It's much less horrible than the one I sent in [19:04:20] the staff pics in naoko's presentation are great :D [19:04:22] ha ha ha [19:04:26] the wifi is less great ;) [19:04:30] :( [19:05:02] RoanKattouw: rofl :D [19:05:05] I wondered where that was [19:05:14] yeah, the photo I used for RoanKattouw makes him look hardcore man! [19:05:27] RoanKattouw: just finished watching your pres. good job man! [19:08:24] TrevorParscal: Thanks man :D [19:08:59] Based on that presentation Kul dragged me to a dinner with one of the sponsors at like 10 PM [19:09:00] So with my European non-tolerance for eating that late, I went to dinner twice (once to eat, once to talk) [19:09:21] Kul is awesome [19:09:28] what did you eat? [19:11:14] ok - streaming video started, and it's not naoko [19:11:35] *TrevorParscal will have to wait for video to be uploaded :( [19:12:17] *TrevorParscal takes lunch break [19:15:41] RoanKattouw> Right [19:15:45] We went to a Japanese place but I didn't eat [19:15:45] I'd already eaten with Brianna and two folks from wikiHow [19:15:45] (two pancake-like things stuffed with meat covered in carbonara sauce; the carbonara was heavy enough so I didn't finish the rest) [19:15:52] *Roan curses wifi here [19:23:12] TrevorParscal: Can you verify whether https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52129#code-comments has been addressed and mark it as resolved if so? [19:39:36] wikia 'quick action panel' looks wacky fun :) [19:41:04] placeholder upload link is nice [19:41:04] not sure the best way to handle it for info boxes and such though [19:42:20] Aye [19:42:20] Shouldn't be hard to do as a gadget [19:42:20] Maybe it even *is* one [19:42:20] Sadly all these Wikia improvements seem to have a tendency to have nice-looking interfaces and not-so-nice-looking code [19:42:40] Not sure it matters if implemented cleverl [19:42:41] y [19:42:53] s/all/all I've looked at/ [19:45:48] :) [19:47:52] brion: BTW the API logging thingy we talked about in SF is ready to roll now; in fact, I've already made a performance fix based on those logs :D [19:48:35] whee [19:55:41] brion: I was playing with it a bit - there's lots of strange site-specific CSS hacks that screw with things so it's not always really simple... I should have a patch today [19:56:24] TrevorParscal: Is that about the image placeholder or about the fixme on CR? [19:56:49] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52129#code-comments [19:56:59] sorry - was eating lunch [19:57:44] heh [20:00:03] since i believe we've already got that or later version we can change that to a todo i think [20:02:44] Yeah just checking with Trevor whether it was fixed or not, if it was then it could be taken out of the fixme list