[14:30:53] <hannes-_->	hey roan
[14:31:00] <RoanKattouw>	Hey Hannes
[14:31:24] <hannes-_->	did u follow this wp is unfriendly to newbees debate?
[14:31:36] <RoanKattouw>	Which one is that?
[14:31:52] <hannes-_->	naoko wrote a mail about a blogpost first
[14:32:01] <hannes-_->	tthan I reported from the German WP
[14:32:31] <RoanKattouw>	Oh right the Limbo namespace thing
[14:32:37] <hannes-_->	there was a new idea
[14:33:12] <hannes-_->	we could use a dialog (like our insert dialogs) for "new author new article"
[14:33:39] <hannes-_->	to give rules etc. a more prominent place
[14:33:54] <RoanKattouw>	OK so basically it's some sort of an article creation wizard?
[14:33:54] <hannes-_->	u used jquery for that, right?
[14:33:58] <hannes-_->	YES
[14:34:07] <RoanKattouw>	Yes we use jQuery dialogs for that
[14:34:16] <hannes-_->	that would be like the deluxe solution
[14:34:42] <hannes-_->	a small variant could just popup to show the rules etc
[14:35:00] <hannes-_->	but an article wizard would be very good
[14:35:05] <RoanKattouw>	Well the thing is all these rules are wiki-specific, so anything that uses or highlights them would be done in MediaWiki:Common.js
[14:35:06] <hannes-_->	how much work would that be?
[14:35:13] <RoanKattouw>	Not too much I guess
[14:35:23] <RoanKattouw>	I could write a gadget for it
[14:35:34] <RoanKattouw>	If Naoko will let me :P
[14:35:45] <hannes-_->	yeah
[14:35:57] <hannes-_->	u got plenty of other stuff to do i guess
[14:36:03] <RoanKattouw>	Indeed
[14:36:12] <hannes-_->	but no thanksgiving, huh?
[14:36:54] <RoanKattouw>	Not over here, no :P but I had to take some time off anyway, I have a limit on my 2009 income
[14:37:06] <hannes-_->	yeah me too
[14:37:25] <RoanKattouw>	If I go over I have to pay back like 3600ish euros in student support
[14:37:32] <hannes-_->	but if my hardware keeps acting crazy I won t have a problem with that
[14:37:44] <hannes-_->	wow- that s hard
[14:37:56] <RoanKattouw>	ha
[14:39:58] <RoanKattouw>	So basically you'd have to ask Naoko if she wants to devote resources (i.e. my or Trevor's time) to this, and her answer will probably be "not right now"
[14:57:52] <hannes-_->	i thin u are right
[14:59:07] <RoanKattouw>	That doesn't mean it'll never happen of course, but we're busy people :)