[15:48:29] hannes-tank: FYI, the infrastructure for the lang-spec icons is all done, all I need at this point to get it going it less blocky icons [17:10:09] howedy folks [17:20:49] Morning [17:22:12] Whee, I get to generate stats again [17:23:01] That'll take some time though, I'm out between 9:45 and noon-1ish, and I'll have to figure out a game plan [17:39:45] roan? [17:39:53] can u describe "blocky"? [17:39:57] I gotta go in five [17:40:12] pixelated? [17:40:13] I pasted a screenshot yesterday, lemme look it up [17:40:15] Yes [17:40:20] ohh [17:40:25] that s bad [17:40:52] [19:02:52] hannes-_-: http://yfrog.com/86blockyp [17:41:11] thx [17:41:18] oh [17:41:26] but that s because u scaled it up [17:41:40] that s obvious [17:41:47] u have to keep the dimensions [17:41:56] From 20x20 to 22x22? [17:42:07] All other icons just are 22x22 [17:42:11] sure [17:42:21] I thought that's the size they were supposed to have; consult Trevor, I guess [17:42:35] they should be 22*22 WITH button [17:42:46] so that s the 1px frame for the button [17:42:55] No, the images themselves are 22x22, I checked [17:43:08] all icons need to be 20*20px [17:43:13] Anyway, I gotta go now, be back between noon and 1 PT (9-10 CET) [17:43:19] ok [17:43:27] Discuss this with Trevor when he gets it [17:43:32] I ll ask trevor [18:44:46] hey nimish, are you there? [18:47:25] I will be in a sec, hannes-_- [18:58:33] k, wassup? [19:03:30] i got some questions about the clicktracking [19:03:41] #1 indent wasn t tracked? [19:04:02] #2 what s tableCGD and linkCGD? [19:04:32] #3 is it correct that we tracked the new toolbar only? [19:04:57] #4 did we track, can we get some information about the old toolbar as well? [19:15:29] ok [19:15:41] 1: what's indent? [19:15:55] 2. table "content generation dialog" and "link content generation dialog" [19:16:01] so the dialogs [19:16:32] 3 and 4. yes, we were only tracking the new toolbar but now we're tracking both (as of a day or two ago) [21:38:27] TrevorParscal: Could you review http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/59224 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/59254 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/59680 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/59683 ? Then maybe we could push those out today [21:38:45] I've already reviewed the latter two, they look OK to me, but I'd like you to take a look as well [21:39:44] RoanKattouw: TrevorParscal is in the office but not at his computer right now [21:39:53] OK [21:39:54] he is having lunch [21:40:02] should be back shortly [21:40:14] I'll just look into those stats in the meantime then [21:40:37] since it is late for you, we can deploy tomorrow [21:40:46] No worries, got tomorrow off [21:41:06] from school? [21:41:15] Yeah [21:41:29] I have no obligations before like 2 PM [21:41:48] nice [21:55:25] ssh catrope@nightshade.toolserver.org [21:55:27] Enter passphrase for key '/home/roan/.ssh/id_rsa': [21:55:28] Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator [21:55:29] RoanKattouw: I think leftnav clicktracking off might be ok to speed up page loads, I'll double check with parutron and hannes but it sounds like the leftnav will be more of a 'suggestions' project. we definitely want to check data on the old edit toolbar for a while tho [21:55:30] WTF [21:55:37] Right yeah [21:55:59] toolserver guys expired your account?? [21:56:22] Apparently [21:56:35] hi [21:56:49] yeah i think the changes we come up with for left nav won't be, er, universally implementable [21:56:59] so i think we'll put something up on our site with our best suggestion [21:57:04] and see what happens from there [21:57:09] probably in EN, DE, JP [21:57:10] only [21:57:12] what do you think? [21:57:22] right I think the question was whether or not we have enough data now for that or whether we want to keep collecting. I think we have enough now [21:57:35] OK good [21:57:41] Then I can turn off left nav clicktracking [21:57:48] just for left nav tho [21:58:03] we have a statistically significant sample, right? of those languages? [21:58:22] and we are click tracking in and out of beta, right? [21:58:22] yes [21:58:25] if so, i'm good to go [21:59:23] parutron: where are you? [22:00:29] nimish_g: Turned out I forgot to subscribe to toolserver-announce, where it was announced that all accounts would be expired by Dec 1 unless you applied for an extension [22:03:00] so my acct is dead too then =\ [22:03:41] Probably [22:09:27] since you are all talking about click tracking [22:09:49] i think it will be good to pull out click tracking data from the old toolbar, nimish_g [22:10:29] as in, to disable that data collection, or as in pull it up right now and see what it says? [22:10:54] the latter [22:10:59] ok [22:11:00] ;) [22:18:13] TrevorParscal TrevorParscal_: (whoever's the real one) Did you see my request for review? [22:18:28] yes [22:18:30] doing it now [22:19:50] Awesome [22:32:02] TrevorParscal: Please ping me when review is done, I don't F5 Special:Code every 5 mins ;) [22:43:50] adam, did you notice the issue with the actions drop down moving a bit in RTL on mouseover? [22:44:04] He's not here [22:44:21] hmmm [22:44:28] Probably cooking dinner or something [22:44:38] Yay timezones! [22:44:42] these changes cause a problem - trying to figure out what the actually fixed... [22:58:57] adam: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/59224 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/59254 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/r59714 [22:59:05] grr [22:59:07] he's not here... [22:59:35] RoanKattouw: I want to start having weekly meetings over the phone or skype between just you and I [22:59:46] just to sync up on work [22:59:57] what day/time would be best next week for you [23:00:27] Ah [23:00:37] We have the team meeting on Tuesday [23:00:47] So let's not make that meeting day, gotta get some actual work done too [23:01:13] Is Monday as bad for you as for everyone else? [23:01:41] I guess post-lunch on Thursday would work, at least for now [23:01:46] Monday can work [23:01:51] ok [23:01:58] Thursday after lunch [23:02:01] Yeah Thursday is probably better for me yeah [23:02:04] we can try and keep that a regular thing [23:02:18] May have to move that every few months for uni schedule changes [23:07:14] OK so how do we do this? Skype is probably best if you have a mic and everything (seem to recall you didn't) [23:07:14] I guess I'll also finally be buying that webcam then [23:46:44] howief: I've written a script for your stats request, what kind of settings would you like to use? [23:46:57] The output it produces is: [23:47:03] START VECTOR TOOLBAR [23:47:05] 20091101000000 10 6 [23:47:07] 20091102000000 14 12 [23:47:08] etc. [23:47:33] what do those numbers mean? [23:47:56] And what that means is that on November 1st (i.e. in the 24 hours from Nov 1 00:00, this timeframe is configurable) there were 10 users that had opted into vector within that timeframe and stayed for at least one week (also configurable) [23:48:07] oh sweet [23:48:15] Parameters are: wiki, start timestamp, end timestamp, duration (24 h), interval (1 week) [23:48:17] could you also add the total number that entered into vector? [23:48:46] (during the same time period) [23:48:59] Right so you wanna count the number of quitters too? [23:49:04] Correct [23:49:28] On it [23:49:31] awesome [23:49:32] thanks!