[00:26:01] <parutron>	mdale
[00:26:03] <parutron>	you there?
[00:26:08] <mdale>	yes I am
[00:26:41] <parutron>	can i tell you something that drives me crazy with the media uploader?
[00:26:56] <parutron>	which we've been using on our usability wiki for a while now?
[00:27:54] <mdale>	what is that?
[00:28:00] <parutron>	:)
[00:28:36] <parutron>	when i choose my filename, it automatically updated the destination file to be the same.  i wish it didn't
[00:29:02] <mdale>	oh.. ie you change the destination name first.. then select your file?
[00:29:26] <parutron>	namely because i frequently simplifiy initiating my upload by creating a [[File: something.pdf]] in the editor and save.
[00:29:31] <parutron>	then click on my red link to upload.
[00:29:42] <parutron>	if that makes sense.
[00:31:09] <mdale>	oky ... we should test for &wpDestFile being set in the url and not update the destination name in such cases
[00:31:19] <parutron>	yippppeee!
[00:31:43] <parutron>	also, if you have time, can i but you on what to do when what's happening on my computer, er, happens.
[00:31:52] <parutron>	that is if you have enough time to walk over here.
[00:31:58] <mdale>	:P
[00:32:17] <parutron>	no no, i'll bring my computer over.
[00:38:58] <parutron>	mdale: "my upload _should_ be accessible"  teeee heeee
[00:39:17] <mdale>	you never know with software ;)
[00:39:23] <parutron>	hilarious.
[00:50:57] <guillom>	hehe
[01:06:17] *werdna 	waves at parutron, guillom and mdale 
[01:06:42] <mdale>	hi werdna
[01:12:56] <guillom>	hey andrew
[01:19:40] <parutron>	hey werdna
[01:19:42] <parutron>	how are you?
[01:19:44] <parutron>	what are you doing?
[01:19:50] <parutron>	what are you eating?
[01:19:53] <parutron>	what are you listening to?
[01:19:59] <parutron>	where are you?
[01:20:00] <parutron>	tee hee
[01:20:06] <parutron>	i just finished my coffee
[01:23:14] <werdna>	sorry, I disappeared for a shower
[01:23:48] <werdna>	I'm well, I'm in Kyoto, having a sleep in before heading to the university for meetings. I haven't eaten anything yet, and I'm listening to my ear ringing (I think I have an ear infection :()
[01:24:05] <parutron>	yummmmmmm.
[01:26:40] <werdna>	what about you? :p
[01:30:11] <parutron>	i am at wmf-sf, listening to an aeroplane over the sea, anxious to set up our upcoming ux study (the last for our grant!).
[01:30:22] <parutron>	just finished a big installation at the gray area gallery:
[01:30:37] <parutron>	http://www.gaffta.org/
[01:30:59] <parutron>	and i just ate a green tea candy!
[01:31:09] <parutron>	after my coffeeeeeee
[01:31:27] <werdna>	om nom nom. I can probably buy them easily here
[01:31:53] <parutron>	indeed.  and some of the best tempura on the planet.
[01:32:16] <werdna>	I'm not sure how I feel about Japanese food.
[01:32:25] <werdna>	Some of it is good, but I'm not a sushi/sashimi person
[01:32:27] <parutron>	i know how you should feel ;)
[01:32:58] <parutron>	do your university meetings keep you really buys?
[01:33:24] <parutron>	jeff's spent way more time there than me (i've only been once) but he has some favorite restaurants
[01:33:39] <parutron>	but i'm sure there are plenty of places for you to get suggestions on non-sushi places.
[01:34:16] <werdna>	I'm busy, but not very busy.
[01:34:25] <parutron>	what's going on with your studies?
[01:34:28] <parutron>	what are you up to?
[01:34:33] <werdna>	I start next week
[01:36:31] <parutron>	are you still taking courses or are you into your thesis?
[01:36:38] <werdna>	just for fun, I'm studying civil engineering combined with linguistics.
[01:36:44] <werdna>	Still taking courses? I haven't started yet!
[01:36:56] <parutron>	i forget - are you in your undergrad or masters?
[01:37:20] <werdna>	i start undergrad next week
[01:37:26] <parutron>	oh wow!!  what fun.
[01:37:38] <parutron>	my dad's studied civil engineering.
[01:37:53] <parutron>	(my dad)
[01:38:33] <werdna>	is he a civil engineer?
[01:38:45] <parutron>	of sorts.
[01:39:10] <parutron>	he worked at a big detroit architecture firm for a long time.  "retired" about ten years ago to start his own thing.
[01:42:59] <werdna>	huh, what does he do now?
[01:43:37] <parutron>	private houses, some land development/investment stuff.
[01:45:33] <werdna>	interesting, my area of interest is planning, urban transport, etc
[07:57:03] <Praveenp>	Hi
[07:57:13] <Praveenp>	I am from ml.wikipedia
[07:57:46] <Praveenp>	Our transliteration script in wikipedia not working in Enhanced toolbar. Please help
[07:58:47] <Praveenp>	I put a comment at http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolbar but no reply
[09:02:23] <kea>	hi all
[17:19:01] <GerardM->	I was shocked when I learned that support for mobile MediaWiki is only 24 messages
[17:19:30] <GerardM->	I learned this from the Urdu Wikipedians .. we may get many more Indian subcontinent languages supported
[18:06:35] <hannes-_->	TrevorParscal: hey are u there?
[18:06:42] <TrevorParscal>	hi
[18:06:53] <hannes-_->	how is it going?
[18:07:40] <hannes-_->	you wrote the naming of the icon-page on commons is poor...? so let s change it. I don t mind
[18:08:47] <hannes-_->	I created that page and I thought the name makes sense, since the category above is called "mediaWiki edit toolbar"
[18:09:03] <hannes-_->	what's you suggestion?
[18:11:26] <TrevorParscal>	Well, Vector is the name of a skin
[18:11:38] <TrevorParscal>	it really has nothing to do with toolbar icons
[18:11:55] <TrevorParscal>	they are part of the wikiEditor software
[18:11:58] <hannes-_->	how do you call the new toolbar than?
[18:12:13] <TrevorParscal>	so, it should be "WikiEditor Toolbar Icons"
[18:12:25] <TrevorParscal>	The toolbar is a WikiEditor module
[18:12:44] <hannes-_->	yeah but where is the difference to the old toolbar icons?
[18:12:56] <hannes-_->	aren t those "wikiEditor Toolbar icons" as well?
[18:13:17] <TrevorParscal>	old meaning, the blue block buttons ones?
[18:13:24] <hannes-_->	yes
[18:13:33] <TrevorParscal>	those are just the stock MediaWiki icons
[18:13:51] <TrevorParscal>	WikiEditor is a special editing interface we're developing
[18:14:08] <hannes-_->	ok, so I ll move that page to "WikiEditor Toolbar Icons"
[18:14:10] <hannes-_->	ok?
[18:15:05] <TrevorParscal>	awesome
[18:15:10] <TrevorParscal>	leave the redirect behind
[18:15:21] <hannes-_->	sure
[18:34:40] <hannes-_->	TrevorParscal: can u help me with this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Toolbaricon_bold_T.png  ?
[18:35:09] <hannes-_->	i don t get it, why is that icon displayed so big?
[18:35:30] <hannes-_->	see here as well: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiEditor_Toolbar_Icons
[18:35:45] <TrevorParscal>	might be a DPI thing
[18:36:03] <TrevorParscal>	lookin
[18:36:18] <hannes-_->	right... I thought the same so I created a new file with 72dpi. pastet that icon and saved as png again
[18:38:01] <hannes-_->	the original one had 89,992 dpi and 14*14 px
[18:41:24] <TrevorParscal>	all sorted now
[18:41:41] <TrevorParscal>	allthough, it's still a bit dark
[18:41:41] <hannes-_->	cool
[18:41:45] <hannes-_->	can u explain?
[18:41:47] <TrevorParscal>	but now the DPI is set right
[18:42:09] <TrevorParscal>	I took it into photoshop, created a new 22px x 22px @ 72dpi image
[18:42:16] <TrevorParscal>	copy-pasted the graphics into it
[18:42:20] <TrevorParscal>	saved it as a 24
[18:42:25] <TrevorParscal>	*24bit png
[18:42:29] <TrevorParscal>	and uplaoded it
[18:42:34] <hannes-_->	strange - that s excactly what I did
[18:42:40] <TrevorParscal>	but, it seems like it might need to be just a tad lighter
[18:42:50] <hannes-_->	yeah. that s true
[18:42:52] <TrevorParscal>	hannes-_-: you may not have paid attention to the DPI?
[18:43:28] <hannes-_->	of coarse I did, that's why I created a new file, rather than expanding the canvas size
[18:43:41] <TrevorParscal>	hannes-_-: strange indeed
[18:43:45] <TrevorParscal>	well, it's sorted now
[18:43:49] <hannes-_->	I also rechecked, when I open my file in ps it says 72dpi
[18:43:54] <hannes-_->	yeah - thanks for that
[18:43:58] <TrevorParscal>	one thing I will note, Commons will take a while to show the new version
[18:44:03] <TrevorParscal>	like, a couple minutes
[18:44:13] <hannes-_->	hmm ok...maybe that s why
[18:44:23] <TrevorParscal>	so you will upload a version, then think, "hey! that didn't fix it!"
[18:44:27] <TrevorParscal>	but it did, it's just delated
[18:44:31] <TrevorParscal>	*delayed
[18:44:39] <TrevorParscal>	brb
[18:56:20] <parutron>	hey hannes-_- i'm gonna call you in a couple minutes.  only gonna rope adam_miller after we get through our list (as he's not on all of the stuff down our list)
[18:56:40] <parutron>	the team here is going on a little field trip for lunch, so trying to get done sooner rather than later.
[19:01:45] <hannes-_->	parutron: sure just call me
[19:33:39] <TrevorParscal>	lunch trip at 1pm?
[19:34:38] <nkomura>	i'm ok with 1pm but sooner would be better
[19:41:53] <TrevorParscal>	sooner is fine
[19:42:01] <TrevorParscal>	I heard rumors of late lunch
[19:49:15] <parutron_>	hey guys.
[19:49:19] <parutron_>	i'm on a skype call with hannes
[19:49:26] <parutron_>	feel free to head out without me......
[19:49:47] <parutron_>	but i would like to steal adam_miller for a bit before he goes.
[19:50:00] <adam_miller>	NO
[19:50:12] <adam_miller>	ok, i guess so, where you at?
[19:52:00] <adam_miller>	parutron_ parutron_ parutron_  what room are you talking to hannes in ?
[19:52:12] <parutron_>	R5
[19:56:10] <nkomura>	parutron_: we will wait for you
[19:56:16] <nkomura>	TrevorParscal is taking a call too
[19:57:04] <parutron_>	in that case i'm kicking adam_miller out
[19:57:41] <guillom>	my lunch is in the fridge
[19:59:24] <RoanKattouw>	TrevorParscal, TrevorParscal_: Whichever is the real one, I'm on Skype and good to go
[19:59:34] <RoanKattouw>	From your double presence I assume that you're in the conference room :)
[20:01:35] <TrevorParscal_>	conferences rooms are scarce
[20:01:35] <TrevorParscal_>	I'm now in a room without windows
[20:17:42] <parutron_>	nimish_g: you at your computer?
[20:17:56] <parutron_>	is the un-stylized template capsule thingy on a sandbox somewhere?
[20:17:59] <parutron_>	or just your machine?
[20:18:05] <nimish_g>	yes I am
[20:18:22] <nimish_g>	I think if you turn your preferences on in any sandbox it's there
[20:19:06] <RoanKattouw>	Sandbox 3
[20:31:36] <parutron_>	thx
[20:43:42] <parutron>	what is the significance of the sometimes automatically added ' _ ' after my IRC username?
[20:43:45] <parutron>	anyone?
[20:43:56] <parutron>	guillom: do you know why it adds it?
[20:44:00] <guillom>	parutron, it's when you get disconnected
[20:44:12] <guillom>	your IRC client automatically reconnects with your alternate nickname
[20:44:33] <guillom>	and the _ suffix is usually the way the IRC client builds the alternate nickname
[20:56:23] <RoanKattouw>	parutron: When you disconnect from IRC in an ungraceful way, it keeps your nickname on hold for a while
[20:56:48] <RoanKattouw>	So when you reconnect, parutron is taken, and your client tries parutron_ instead
[20:57:21] <RoanKattouw>	Assuming you have an IRC cloak, you can do /msg NickServ ghost parutron and it'll kick the held nickname
[20:57:28] <guillom>	she has one
[23:28:13] <guillom>	hey guys, how long is your meeting going to be?
[23:28:19] <guillom>	I need two of you :)
[23:57:51] <thedj>	guillom: that's a good idea. just duplicate the entire team....
[23:59:17] <RoanKattouw>	TrevorParscal: My local changes @ http://mediawiki.pastebin.com/m6d571c38 hopefully fix the lone textnode bug, I did no testing whatsoever and I'm tired :)