[01:50:30] i need one of the Usability people's databases [15:57:46] nkomura: good morning [15:58:03] good morning, Ryan_Lane [15:58:08] how are you? [15:58:24] good. have coffee and a muffin. need nothing else :) [15:58:42] i'm having coffee and a toast :) [15:58:44] yourself? [15:58:46] heh [15:58:51] good [15:59:10] a little sleep deprived, was up late last night for work [15:59:18] but it is FRIDAY! [15:59:22] lol [15:59:28] are you on the call already? [15:59:31] i saw that. I got an email at about 1:30am here :) [15:59:35] no. calling in now [15:59:41] i should call in too [16:08:08] reCAPTCHA on the usability sandbox? lolwut [16:14:24] Natalie: oh yeah - we had lots of spammers trying to make a mess of our wiki [16:17:00] WMF avoids reCAPTCHA. That was my confusion. I guess you all are special, though. [16:17:23] I got the CAPTCHA after hitting "cancel", FWIW. [16:19:03] yeah - the extension that handles captcha used on wikipedia needs updating [16:19:07] we're running head [16:19:28] it may have been fixed up now, but at the time we set those up (last year) it was not compatible with head [16:38:37] Heh. The last time I tried to set up reCAPTCHA, it wasn't compatible with trunk or head. It was last written for MW 1.7 or something. [16:55:09] windows 7 across a WAN is slooooooooowwww. I can't figure out how to change the stupid color bit depth either. [17:34:34] Ryan_Lane: solution to windows 7 - reformat hard drive, install good operating system [17:34:55] TrevorParscal: lol. you want to test IE 7 and 8 right? :) [17:35:29] he he - yes [17:35:30] :) [17:36:06] this is seriously taking me ages. I should have made the vm here, then uploaded the vmdk. [18:08:58] so what is a good source of usability test data if, what dataset does Calcey use: [18:09:02] ? [18:10:13] What do you mean test data? [18:14:20] Whoo: http://ie6funeral.com/ [18:17:58] "I loved the way you wore that sexy grey-blue background on your transparent PNG." hehe [18:20:13] i mean pages we can use on local machines [18:20:25] without having to create them [18:21:51] pdhanda: hi! [18:22:50] hi TrevorParscal [18:22:58] your presentation yesterday was awesome [18:23:10] very informative and very entertaining [18:23:53] pdhanda: http://pastebin.com/s1M9kPJT [18:23:55] Did you present something at the Mozilla meetup? [18:24:05] yeah, I showed them our stuff [18:24:22] pdhanda: thanks! [18:24:43] thanks TrevorParscal [18:27:21] *TrevorParscal is transcoding FAQ About Time Travel [18:28:09] so, pdhanda those environments I helped you setup [18:28:22] that should be all you need for testing our stuff [18:28:44] getting a hair cut. back in about an hour [18:30:38] TrevorParscal, you have the db you used there easily accessible somewhere? [18:30:53] i can email it [18:30:58] why? [18:31:18] eh just nice to have i guess, more pages to mess with :) [18:31:39] that was on my personal laptop which is at home [18:31:45] ah! [18:31:56] let me give you a dump of my latest [18:32:37] TrevorParscal: FAQ about time travel? What's that about? [18:32:50] (well time travel, duh, but, you know...) [18:33:02] a movie that has Roy from The IT Crowd in it [18:33:04] that's all I know [18:33:23] Ah [18:33:35] Which one had both Jen and Roy in the beginning again? [18:34:47] no, that's How To Loose Friends and Alienate People -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455538/ [18:34:54] Oh right yeah [18:34:59] I knew it wasn't this one [18:35:18] you can see Chris O'Dawd on the list of actors (bottom) [18:36:01] Is Roy the guy with hair? [18:36:09] He's the guy with the Irish accent [18:36:14] ah. [18:36:17] I think you mean Moss [18:36:27] Moss. That's it. [18:36:33] http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Roy-with-his-meh--t-shirt-the-it-crowd-242640_1024_576.jpg [18:36:55] Moss has the crazy hair -> http://www.channel4.com/assets/programmes/images/the-it-crowd/moss/the-it-crowd-moss_412x232.jpg [18:36:57] Oh hey he has hair too [18:37:04] Yeah Moss's hair stands out more [18:37:55] I interpreted "guy with hair" as "guy with crazy hair" - given there aren't any major characters that are bald [18:38:47] Yeah [18:39:46] so this dialog [18:41:56] One of the episodes was spoilt by Roy wearing an xkcd shirt, and me thinking "omg! xkcd is CC-BY-NC! That's a copyvio!" [18:42:36] http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org:9000/ySSEJswd6O [18:42:49] MC8: which episode is he wearing an XKCD shirt? [18:43:05] Episode one some time. Wearing a venn diagram [18:44:43] http://xkcd.com/668/ but not hand written [18:45:33] hmm [18:46:05] er, season two, not episode one [18:48:33] blue person in etherpad - identify yourself! [18:49:59] hah, turns out to not be xkcd after all http://hideyourarms.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/elitismdiagram600.gif [18:50:13] *MC8 asks nicely for an etherpad link [18:50:29] MC8: eiximenis link in scrollback [18:51:08] MC8: clearly that was XKCD inspiration though [18:52:58] *MC8 sees no etherpad link in the last three logs [18:53:49] TrevorParscal> http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org:9000/ySSEJswd6O [18:53:52] MC8: which episode is he wearing an XKCD shirt? [18:54:18] RoanKattouw: ah, I was searching for "ether" [18:54:42] Yeah we have our own Etherpad setup [18:54:46] I mentioned eiximenis [18:56:38] MC8: I will say text-area when is a valid HTML tag [18:56:40] :) [18:56:42] he he he [18:57:07] (kidding) [18:57:32] who is MysteryMan? [18:57:50] No idea. Let's call him/her Fred. [18:58:27] I already set the name to MysteryMan (or woman) - looks to be locked now [19:00:06] yes, once set only the dude/dudette can change it [19:01:15] RoanKattouw: are you poking at nimish email stuff? [19:01:17] Yes [19:01:29] I just noticed that Firefox still eats newlines in pasted rich text [19:01:29] awesome [19:01:45] copied from where? [19:02:03] IRC window [19:02:11] TrevorParscal> http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org:9000/ySSEJswd6O [19:02:13] MC8: which episode is he wearing an XKCD shirt? [19:02:34] Copied that (incl. link) makes the newline go away [19:02:50] copying from an IRC window is not on our matrix yet... [19:03:36] It's Chatzilla, so it's no different from copying from a browser I'd say [19:04:18] Oh and I need two Ctrl+Zs after pasting [19:04:31] i did notice that [19:05:09] that has to do with needing to detect if the most recent save state is identical to the current content and skipping over it [19:05:32] *stretches* I'm gonna need to refactor some of Nimish [19:05:39] 's code here to handle updating templates [19:06:05] I like the idea of us re-factoring nimish, but his code will have to do [19:06:26] the laser eye surgeon re-factored him yesterday [19:06:31] he's gone through enough :) [19:06:36] hehehe [19:08:01] we should also poke at soros at some point [19:10:13] Yes [19:10:23] That point will have to be before noon [19:12:42] TrevorParscal: "You will be required to submit progress reports about your activity *and potential candidates* on a regular basis" (emphasis mine) --> what? [19:14:14] RoanKattouw: lookin [19:41:19] RoanKattouw: I hit on a weird problem when trying to implement the IE version of that change I made to encapsulateSelection yesterday [19:41:39] What's taht? [19:41:53] in IE8 only, it seems to completely ignore a
tag, but just one in specific [19:43:24] so if you press the numbered list button four times, it does the first two right next to each other, then the next two (and all after) on their own lines like it should [19:43:57] Weird [19:44:16] would you mind if I committed and let you take a look at it? [19:44:44] I'm gonna be gone in like 15 mins [19:44:59] So I'd look at it tomorrow [19:45:33] thats fine, maybe TrevorParscal could take a look too [20:57:03] TrevorParscal: i was going to give 22642 a shot [20:58:04] sounds ambitious! i love it [20:58:20] assigned now [20:58:46] cool [20:59:20] *pdhanda is still waiting for the email from TrevorParscal :P [21:01:42] *TrevorParscal makes fresh db dump [21:08:43] pdhanda: sent [21:09:14] thanks!