[02:10:22] hello, are there any usability people still around? [02:11:27] hi werdna. i'm here [02:11:31] what's up? [02:11:40] ah, I was looking for somebody technical to ask about clicktracking [02:11:43] i see mdale1 too [02:11:51] but never mind, I'll just do it the hard way and figure it out from the code ;) [02:12:19] nimish would be a good person to ask [02:12:26] yes, but he's not around ;) [02:12:29] you can ask [02:12:31] I may know... [02:12:33] right [02:12:38] hi mdale! [02:12:44] I just wanted a general overview of how to add click tracking to LiquidThreads [02:12:57] I briefly looked at that code when adding click tracking to oggHandler [02:13:06] ah, so you've added clicktracking before [02:13:34] ( hi nkomura ) [02:13:56] werdna: yea but looking at the code to remember what I did ;) [02:14:51] checking out the api gives you an idea [02:14:58] As far as I can tell I'm supposed to do $j('element').click( $.trackAction(this.id) ); [02:15:02] or something similar [02:15:36] I need to store more custom info than just an event id [02:16:11] we miss you in the office mdale [02:17:06] I need to find a nice icon for 'like'ing a LiquidThreads post. [02:17:32] have you visited tango icons? [02:17:44] I haven't started looking yet [02:17:50] but I will keep that in mind :) [02:18:10] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library [02:18:54] if you are looking for thumbs up, tango doesn't have it tho [02:19:05] they strictly do not use body parts in their icons [02:19:18] odd, why not? [02:19:43] cuz body signs mean different things in different cultures [02:20:11] and they strive to make universal icons which can be used for all language/cultures [02:20:14] I could do a smiley-face. [02:20:34] i guess smiley face is universal :) [02:21:35] though that's a body part :p [02:21:48] I can imagine that a wink is not a universal thing, though [02:22:46] probably not [02:24:01] werdna: are you traveling to berlin? [02:24:03] yes [02:24:10] I arrive on Tuesday morning [02:24:14] bright and early. [02:24:16] kewl [02:27:54] *werdna mails Nimish. [02:28:01] I suppose you're going? [02:28:10] no i can't [02:28:18] too many things going on [02:28:23] ah [02:28:50] so from your team it's Trevor, Howie, Adam? [02:29:26] and roan, guillaume, neil, and hannes [02:29:38] and ryan lane will be there too [02:29:39] quite a contingent [02:29:59] yeah thanks to the funding from french chapter [02:30:27] we are taking advantage of this great opportunity [02:30:34] i think you'll enjoy meeting hannes [02:30:43] he works parul on UI design [02:32:02] :) [02:32:09] *werdna calls the sheriff about his jury duty [02:32:13] didn't receive a reply in 3 weeks [02:33:33] meant to say "with parul" [02:34:21] so I assumed. [02:34:25] hooray, I've been excused. [02:34:30] But they'll put me back on the roll in June [02:34:35] at which point I'll be going to Wikimania [02:34:52] hooray, I get to submit a third application to be excused. [02:35:00] congrats for being execused [02:35:58] when does your summer vacation start? [02:36:05] June. [02:36:12] but I'm pretty sure I'll be heading straight to SF. [02:36:42] :) [02:36:49] well, somewhere. [02:37:02] if not SF, I'll try to fly to europe early for wikimania [02:38:30] i have a feeling that you'll be in SF [02:38:46] there's gravity pulling you here [02:39:06] I'll be asking Danese about that next week :) [03:41:53] bye everyone [10:24:26] Good morning TrevorParscal :) [10:24:33] howdy [10:24:44] I'm being lazy in my hotel room [10:24:56] recooping from travel [10:25:21] Does the Apache thing start today? [10:37:29] yes [10:37:30] soon [10:37:42] we will need to get on the wrong side of the road soon [10:38:14] heh [10:38:24] Oh right Ireland also drives on the left [10:48:54] ok [10:49:02] got to get ready to vacate and such... [10:49:52] there will be lots of people sharing a "rural broadband line" at this conference... [10:50:25] *TrevorParscal is expecting 56k speeds :( [10:50:35] btw - sweet bike man! [10:50:52] hehe [10:50:57] Yeah it's pretty sweet [10:51:07] how much does it weigh? [10:51:13] It's nice weather too, I think I'll take it for a spin later this afternoon [10:51:23] I don't know; not a lot [10:53:44] I'm considering building a bike around / buying a bike which has one of these... http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cycle/en/sg/index/products/city___comfort_bike/nexus_inter-3.html [10:54:18] Yeah those are pretty solid [10:54:25] only about 100 on amazon mounted into an Alex rim http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C19206/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A2TE9IQP68MWQU [10:54:29] Nexus is a good brand [10:54:55] Oooh and hub dynamos, I hear those are awesome [10:56:05] yeah, i'm seeing those too [10:56:12] for the front [11:05:08] My high school physics teacher said those things have a mechanism to prevent them from generating too much power [11:05:40] Like, they constantly turn themselves off and on again, depending on how fast you're going [11:11:30] hi TrevorParscal [11:11:33] enjoying ireland? [11:11:35] i am [11:11:38] the food is heavy [11:11:42] yeah [11:11:46] I told you not to eat :p [11:11:55] but the water is very nice [11:12:11] i gotta get my crap together and get out of the hotel.... [11:12:22] happy apache-ing [11:12:24] and go get some euros out of a nearby ATM [11:12:26] thanks! [11:12:27] cyall [11:12:31] enjoy ireland [12:05:36] hi all [12:05:53] is there an overview somewhere of all the features that are currently live on commons, etc? [12:06:14] Vector, toolbar, dialogs [12:07:48] do you have some URLs i can point people too? something tidy and official looking?... [12:07:56] Phhh no idea [12:08:00] Ask Naoko or Parul when they get in [12:08:14] hrrrm [12:08:52] vector and toolbar are clear to me... dialogs? what dialogs? [12:08:58] for making links etc? [12:09:08] Yes [12:09:14] Link, table, search&replace [12:10:05] so, what's the next stage after that? [12:10:42] i'm supposed to supply a summary for the verein's news paper, and i'm a bit at a loss. lots of stuff happening, but no read map :) [12:11:10] I'm sure Naoko can answer all your questions [12:11:38] yes. too bad i didn't get around to ask her yesterday. the text is due today :/ [12:11:39] I'm not very involved in all this planning stuff and I'm dealing with i18n breakage left, right and center due to last night's software update [12:11:45] damn last minute assignments >_< [12:11:59] oh right, unicode 5.1 fun [12:12:06] don't let me keep you then [12:12:21] That and more [12:12:54] Oh Tim jumped in for the sr variant thing, I didn't know he was still awake [18:35:43] guillom: bonjour [18:35:49] salut delphine [18:36:10] guillom: toi le roi de commons, tu sais me dire s'il y a un moyen sur la nouvelle interface, de mettre les outils admin en valeur? [18:36:32] ça me fait iéch de passer par un dropdown pour avoir accès à "supprimer" [18:36:34] delphine, comment ça, mettre en valeur ? [18:36:35] ah [18:36:39] non, pas que je sache [18:36:42] bon [18:36:46] bug :D [18:36:53] be my guest :) [18:36:54] not usable for admin :P [18:37:01] ouais [18:37:05] je suis d'accord [18:37:07] sur prototype? [18:37:14] hmm? [18:37:29] le système de "report" est pas très "usable" je trouve [18:37:30] lol [18:37:45] Afternoon. [18:37:46] Vector n'est pas primairement (?) pour les admins, c'est pour les nouveaux utilisateurs [18:38:34] RoanKattouw, yet it becomes an issue for admins when it's going default :) [18:38:54] Yeah I agree that it ideally shouldn't be [18:39:07] delphine, où tu veux, en fait :) je ne pense pas que ça change rapidement dans le futur [18:39:56] *RoanKattouw contemplates making a gadget that moves everything from the dropdown to the tab bar [18:39:59] Shouldn't be too hard [18:40:03] Especially with jQuery [18:40:05] RoanKattouw: I know that [18:40:18] but you can't push away long time users :) [18:40:21] isn't that already what you did for the additional tabs, RoanKattouw ? (like gallery, etc.) [18:40:36] RoanKattouw: that would be awesome :) [18:40:54] guillom: Not exactly [18:41:04] I changed the code that adds those to add them elsewhere [18:43:12] ok [18:45:29] *delphine is seriously considering making chrome her default browser [18:46:56] RoanKattouw: btw I found out the reason why the i18n wasn't working was b/c I hadn't svn up'd the rest of mediawiki in a while [18:49:56] nimish_g: haha [18:49:59] Yeah that'll do it for you [18:50:21] delphine: Google is evil. [19:02:21] RoanKattouw: it's chromium I have :P [19:20:26] delphine: ? [19:20:32] RoanKattouw: ? [19:21:24] I think you meant to say that to someone else [19:21:37] no [19:21:40] oh yes [19:21:43] you're right [19:21:44] sorry [19:21:49] Marybelle: I'm using Chromium :) [19:26:34] RoanKattouw is oft confused with Marybelle [19:30:20] hi cary :) [19:30:22] :P [19:30:29] cary: do you know if naoko is gonna be in Berlin? [19:31:37] She's not [19:31:49] There's a lot of usability folks coming though [19:32:05] Trevor, Adam, Ryan, Guillaume, Howie (I think) and myself [19:33:21] delphine, I'm not going either [19:33:35] I need to go to the chapters meetings one of these years. [19:33:44] But I want to feel like I'm going to contribute. [19:35:27] thx RoanKattouw [19:35:45] cary: attendance is overrated [19:35:48] ;) [19:35:52] delphine, so I've heard. [20:09:20] Heh. [22:23:16] sup TrevorParscal [22:23:21] howdy [22:24:50] roads in ireland are not only backwards, they are narrow windy and poorly maintained [22:24:50] \ [22:25:04] it's been quite an adventure getting around [22:34:09] You mean the roads are in a worse condition than those in CA? [22:34:14] *shock*