[16:41:05] <RoanKattouw>	Morning all
[16:41:17] <RoanKattouw>	I'm starting dinner right now, hoping to be in time for the meeting
[16:44:54] <nkomura>	hi RoanKattouw
[16:45:04] <nkomura>	trevor and adam are running a little late
[16:59:27] <RoanKattouw>	OK
[16:59:33] <RoanKattouw>	I'm back now, poke me when I should call
[16:59:37] <RoanKattouw>	Extension or bridge number?
[17:01:44] <nkomura>	RoanKattouw, hannes-_- and adam_miller, i'm still waiting for everyone to arrive
[17:01:56] <nkomura>	can you all use the extension?
[17:02:05] <hannes-_->	yes
[17:02:14] <RoanKattouw>	Which ext?
[17:02:22] <nkomura>	let's use 2002
[17:02:26] <RoanKattouw>	OK
[17:04:05] <nkomura>	i'm going to grab a conf room (R4)
[17:05:58] <hannes-_->	RoanKattouw: does it work for you?
[17:06:08] <hannes-_->	I cannot reach anyone with 2002
[17:06:40] <RoanKattouw>	Haven't called in yet
[17:09:16] <tomaszf>	hey kids ... do we have updated dates for vector on fr & en ?
[17:10:16] <RoanKattouw>	tomaszf: We're just about to have a meeting, we may find out during that meeting
[17:12:25] <tomaszf>	RoanKattouw: can you please ask for me .. i'm getting questions about it
[17:12:37] <hannes-_->	tomaszf: how much costs the ipad in the states?
[17:13:05] <tomaszf>	it starts at $499
[17:13:20] <tomaszf>	and then goes up depending on if you want more space + 3g
[17:13:22] <hannes-_->	wow - it starts at 799 EURO in germany
[17:13:39] <tomaszf>	yeah .. you should get it from the us ;)
[17:13:51] <RoanKattouw>	adam_miller: Do you guys hear me?
[17:13:54] <RoanKattouw>	Oh wait
[17:13:58] <RoanKattouw>	Plugged mic in :)
[17:13:58] <adam_miller>	no sir
[17:14:21] <hannes-_->	though I would loose guarantee and I will have to pay some tax
[17:15:47] <RoanKattouw>	tomaszf: I believe it's gonna come up, you should know within the hour
[17:17:00] <tomaszf>	thanks
[17:26:03] <RoanKattouw>	tomaszf: Prospective date for enwiki is May 12 (late night PDT), not pinned down until Mark confirms his presence
[17:26:12] <RoanKattouw>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23060
[17:26:38] <tomaszf>	and fr ?
[17:28:32] <RoanKattouw>	Some time after that, I'm not sure
[17:33:56] <tomaszf>	i need something a bit more specific to pass back ... even if its were doing en .. then something then fr
[17:34:27] <RoanKattouw>	I think it's en first, then everything else later
[17:34:40] <RoanKattouw>	You can count on the time between them being a week or less
[17:34:55] <RoanKattouw>	I'm not sure whether that'll be planned in advanced or kinda flexed based on how the first switchover goes
[17:37:34] <guillom>	tomaszf, just tell them you don't know?
[17:37:39] <guillom>	which is true
[17:40:38] <tomaszf>	we have a business contract with them so i tend to give them a bit more info
[17:40:45] <tomaszf>	i'll worth with this though
[17:41:12] <RoanKattouw>	Do keep in mind these dates are not totally firm yet
[17:41:20] <RoanKattouw>	Naoko has been trying to get hold of Mark
[17:42:54] <tomaszf>	and can i safely guess that es and fr will likely happen around the same time ?
[17:43:42] <RoanKattouw>	Yes
[17:43:46] <RoanKattouw>	The plan is enwiki on one day
[17:44:04] <RoanKattouw>	All other wikis at the same time some other day, max 7 days later
[17:49:55] <RoanKattouw>	Newest SimpleSearch already running at http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en-wp/index.php
[19:52:27] <RoanKattouw>	tomaszf: Naoko, Mark have confirmed May 12 @ 10pm PDT as switchover time for enwiki, Naoko will communicate this internally and externally
[19:52:43] <tomaszf>	excellent
[19:53:13] <RoanKattouw>	nkomura: So what's the deal with frwiki and all other non-enwiki wikis? When will they be switched over?
[19:54:58] <nkomura>	we are hoping in two weeks after
[19:55:05] <nkomura>	after en.wp
[19:55:17] <nkomura>	but we will need to see how things go with en.wp
[19:56:12] <RoanKattouw>	Oh
[19:56:21] <RoanKattouw>	tomaszf: ---^^ this is different from what I said earlier
[19:57:19] <tomaszf>	no worries .. adding days is no big deal .. subtracting days would be bad :)
[19:59:06] <RoanKattouw>	Cool
[20:01:18] <parutron>	hannes-_-: are you magically still up and working?
[20:22:15] <TrevorParscal>	RoanKattouw: could you point me to that script that adds tabs to vector we were discussing?
[20:22:58] <RoanKattouw>	[[commons:MediaWiki:Extra-tabs.js]]
[20:23:03] <RoanKattouw>	Look for my edits in its history
[20:23:20] <RoanKattouw>	My edits should be on top, you can probably revert them
[20:23:27] <RoanKattouw>	Sans the one that adds class="collapsible"
[20:23:54] <RoanKattouw>	BTW I think we should assume collapsibility by default and introduce class="notcollapsible" (or dontcollapseme or whatever) instead
[20:27:38] <TrevorParscal>	yeah, that's not a bad idea...
[20:27:49] <TrevorParscal>	well, it really should be collapsible/expandable
[20:28:05] <TrevorParscal>	depending on where the item is
[20:28:28] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[20:28:46] <RoanKattouw>	collapsible for tabs, expandable for menu items, makes sense
[20:32:18] <TrevorParscal>	ok
[20:32:34] <TrevorParscal>	I changed the target back to cactions
[20:40:57] <TrevorParscal>	Was there a big demand for having all of these things in the top-level?
[20:41:07] <TrevorParscal>	I think it's MUCH cleaner with them in the sub-menu
[20:48:44] <hannes-_->	parutron: yes I am