(note the added space), causing some Orange app to totally break [18:43:20] haha [18:43:24] Tomasz forwarded me the complaint and had me fix it in person, agreeing it was totally ridiculous :) [18:43:30] well orange can suck it; we spent months telling them to use the api [18:43:46] anything else they do is explicitly 100% their fault and wikimedia can't support them with it [18:44:08] I love how the bug report acknowledges it's Apple's fault [18:44:27] :) [18:44:37] nonetheless... bug fixing is about making things work, not assigning blame [18:44:45] which is a shame, as assigning blame is LOADS of fun! ;) [18:49:56] I dug up an e-mail conversation between Nimish, me and someone from Apple [18:50:17] Ran from March 4th to 9th (!), after which it ended with "I'll provide you the details later" from the Apple person [18:50:35] Just Fwd'd that conversation to the usability team plus Danese, in the hope she has some contacts [18:51:11] supa [19:01:25] TrevorParscal: If you're still at the office, please let Naoko know that I will only be available for doing deployments for another 2 hrs or so. Can't tell her myself since she's not on IRC or GTalk [19:01:35] k [19:31:22] adam_miller_away: I am going to roll back you latest three revs on prefix boldening locally on prototype [19:31:31] So be aware of this when testing/updating [20:02:42] RoanKattouw: ok - so we're talking about turning simple search back on [20:02:53] Yes [20:03:15] The bolding thing is still being played with afaik [20:03:30] I think the bold is cool, but the ellipsis on REALLY FREAKING LONG stuff is more important [20:04:03] I have reverted the bolding on prototype, because it broke stuff [20:04:12] yep [20:04:25] so, the current state of prototype [20:04:32] I want to, if we can, deploy that [20:04:38] what's your bedtime? [20:05:03] *RoanKattouw contemplates tomorrow's schedule [20:05:23] An hour or so from now [20:05:35] ok [20:05:40] tomorrow? [20:05:43] what about ti? [20:05:44] *it [20:06:08] Don't know what my bedtime tomorrow will be, but I'll definitely be around in the morning (PT) [20:06:24] Oh sorry [20:06:26] No what I meant was [20:06:48] I needed to make a mental list of what to do tomorrow and when so I know when to get up, so I in turn know when to go to sleep [20:06:56] ha ha [20:07:00] right on [20:07:20] so what do you think about deploying simplesearch in it's latest incarnation? [20:08:37] Well it's latest trunk incarnation seemed to be broken [20:08:42] Due to the half-implemented bolding feature [20:09:05] nkomura: Could you try that click bug again on prototype? [20:11:41] RoanKattouw: mouse over click? [20:11:53] Yeah whichever bug Erik reported a few hours ago [20:12:04] I rolled back some of Adam's poking around with the boldening thing [20:12:47] <{cary|lunch}> TrevorParscal, where is the SVG [20:14:03] sorry - sending [20:14:28] RoanKattouw: i refreshed and tested [20:14:49] they look good [20:14:51] OK [20:14:56] both cursor and the mouse [20:15:00] Good [20:15:10] cary: sent [20:15:10] So what do we think about deploying the version currently on prototype? [20:15:23] of the logo or the search? [20:16:01] RoanKattouw the logo is going out as soon as cary has a moment to breathe :) [20:16:29] uploaded [20:16:34] Search [20:16:51] *RoanKattouw isn't involved with the logo other than being the one to deploy it [20:17:13] good evening / day n' cie [20:17:14] RoanKattouw: yes, we like what's on prototype [20:17:18] so, we want to deploy that [20:17:23] nkomura: can you confirm? [20:17:57] yes, we are going forward with trevor's refined version, yay! [20:18:07] nkomura: we mean search [20:18:14] getting ready to upload the English svg logo now [20:18:20] oops [20:18:30] I guess that Otourly and I have to do the top 10... [20:18:31] *TrevorParscal cheers on cary [20:18:58] RoanKattouw: so yes, we want to turn simplesearch back on for wikipedia [20:19:07] we are going with the updates search [20:19:12] without the bolding [20:19:13] we do the top 10 ? what are the changes ? [20:19:23] OK [20:19:34] Gimme a minute to wrap up something else, then I'll deploy [20:19:42] k [20:19:45] take your time [20:19:45] and this is for en.wp only for now [20:21:42] Wait, enwp only, not Commons? *puzzled* [20:21:52] RoanKattouw: sorry [20:22:25] yes, all wikis with vector default [20:22:41] i meant to say let's not update the beta yet [20:22:55] OPK [20:23:47] OPK? [20:24:04] cary: i see the updated logo on en.wp! [20:24:39] hooray [20:27:28] I posted in the admins channel a quick "new logo". Nobody's said anything yet. [20:27:37] *RoanKattouw fails at typing "OK" [20:27:39] fun [20:36:59] i'm back [20:37:35] wireless doesn't work for me in R7 [20:41:32] RoanKattouw: still there? [20:41:55] Yes, sorry [20:42:06] I will deploy now and go back to by parallel matrix stuff after [20:42:13] no worries trevor and i got disconnected [20:42:41] i'm back at my desk and i have LAN access now [20:42:48] *RoanKattouw makes list of revs to merge [20:46:19] TrevorParscal: i couldn't get the wireless working in r7, so i'll be at my desk until the deployment is done [20:46:24] will you let danese know that? [20:46:30] k [20:48:28] List made, merging [20:55:55] The earth hasn't collapsed yet. [20:56:08] Otourly, we should try making the first few... [20:56:29] ? [20:56:37] the top 10 ? [20:56:48] which are the updates ? [20:56:49] Yes [20:56:59] Probably can just copy and paste the text from the ones we have [20:57:03] where we upload it ? [20:57:07] But I haven't opened Trevor's file [20:57:10] overright. [20:57:13] overwrite [20:57:33] allright where is the new logo ? [20:58:38] File:wikipedia-logo-v2-en.xxx [20:59:19] RoanKattouw: merge conflicts? [20:59:35] No, just committing merge [21:05:15] nkomura1: OK I have deployed to test, please test :) [21:05:23] on it [21:06:39] i can't test it as Vector is not enabled as default ;) [21:07:25] i got it enabled as a logged-in user [21:07:59] hm? i see the old style search... [21:08:39] Oh damn [21:08:45] SimpleSearch is not enabled on test [21:08:49] *RoanKattouw enables [21:09:15] *TrevorParscal stands by [21:09:21] cary http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-fr.svg [21:09:52] OK try again now [21:10:45] Try the letter i to see expansion behavior [21:11:07] OlEnglish, next up, fix the indonesian horror [21:11:12] Looks good to me, wanna go live? [21:11:21] Otourly: what's the deal with that being so washed out? [21:11:54] nkomura1, TrevorParscal: SimpleSearch enabled on test, looks good to me. Please poke me when I'm green to put it live [21:12:02] yeah [21:12:05] love it [21:12:14] TrevorParscal: I have just copy paste from the english logo [21:12:14] Oh, dear, he's right. [21:12:28] yeah, that's really washed out [21:12:28] looking for a long article name to stretch the suggestion box [21:12:31] No, something happened there. [21:12:53] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-en.svg ? [21:13:04] looking into it [21:13:31] Otourly: you using inkscape? [21:13:41] nkomura1: Type i [21:13:59] TrevorParscal: yes, but I have only update the french one :P [21:14:19] TrevorParscal, Inkscape is having trouble with your file. [21:14:44] RoanKattouw: thanks [21:15:14] RoanKattouw and TrevorParscal: do you see the word "search" remains in the field when you start typing [21:15:18] yes, I'm lookin at that now [21:15:23] it happened to me a few times [21:15:24] Yes [21:15:29] doesn't happen all the time tho [21:15:39] nkomura1: um [21:15:56] yeah - i do see that [21:16:11] yes, the word "search" doesn't disappear [21:16:19] dammit, and all the words are in one group [21:16:20] selection behavior is good both by key stroke and mouse [21:16:32] cary: the top layer is not working right, i'm fixing [21:16:52] Thanks [21:16:56] Oh [21:17:03] I guess the search box receives focus before it's added [21:17:11] TrevorParscal, would you mind separating Wikipedia and "the free" into separate groups? [21:17:15] top level? [21:17:36] cary: sure [21:17:42] yes, i'm almost done [21:17:47] Unfortunately, we can't tell if the search box is focused or not [21:17:51] *RoanKattouw hates that about JavaScript [21:19:27] what if we restore the current behavior and single tab brings the focus to the serach [21:19:28] ? [21:19:33] Oh bleh [21:19:37] You know why this is happening? [21:19:46] Because of a user script by Splarka focusing the search box [21:19:49] instead of making the search focused from the initial load? [21:20:14] and is it specific to test? [21:20:23] RoanKattouw: i think that's a bug that's already logged...lemme see if i can find it [21:20:51] nkomura1: There's a local script focusing the search box initially, and that's causing this [21:21:03] It's focusing it before we get a chance to set a focus handler [21:21:31] got it [21:21:51] at test.wikipedia.org i am trying to type "Special:PrefixIn" and to wait for the search box to complete it to "Special:PrefixIndex", so i would be able to complete it myself to something like "Special:PrefixIndex/A". [21:21:54] it won't happen in the production unless a user activates this scrip? [21:22:23] cary: how broken up do you want it? [21:22:46] RoanKattouw: we should probably detect if it's focused on load and act accordingly... [21:22:48] Just Wikipedia in one group and the bottom line in one group [21:22:49] in monobook simply moving the focus over the completed line using keyboard arrows puts the completed line in the search box. [21:22:54] awesome [21:22:54] nkomura1: Well it was enabled site-wide on test, just disabled it. [21:22:55] in test.wikipedia it doesn't happen [21:22:56] sorry about this [21:23:12] aharoni: This feature was removed deliberately, to my disagreement [21:23:32] k [21:23:37] in monobook i do it all the time [21:23:56] aharoni: Exactly, and it's a useful feature [21:24:04] nkomura1: Disabled that user script thing, Shift+Refresh [21:24:13] k [21:25:17] hmm, now i see on test both the autocomplete strings from my browser and the search autocomplete. [21:25:28] working good in chrome [21:25:33] gonna check FF [21:26:29] aharoni: :O That shouldn't happen [21:26:35] cary: sent a mail with the fixed SVG [21:26:36] We're setting autocomplete="off" [21:26:37] sorry about that mixup [21:26:45] I was using a filter that's not standard - oops [21:26:59] RoanKattouw: lookin good! [21:28:04] working good to me too [21:28:18] aharoni: i wasn't following your problem closely [21:28:32] what are the issues you are having on test? [21:29:46] RoanKattouw: i think we are good to roll [21:30:10] OK [21:30:31] Much better Mr. T [21:30:46] TrevorParscal, I'm going to put rulers on it and re-upload [21:30:54] cool [21:31:01] I have a Test wiki logo [21:31:05] who can help me upload it? [21:31:09] where does it go? [21:31:34] is it just http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Test_wiki_logo.png ? [21:31:59] OK deployed [21:32:18] Might not start working immediately for anons due to caching [21:32:28] The usual of having SimpleSearch enabled on some pages and disabled on others [21:32:41] RoanKattouw: sent you new test.wikipedia.org logo [21:32:56] RoanKattouw: i'll check the produciton [21:33:04] I can't really avoid that other than asking Domas to purge stuff from bits and hoping the affected users will Shift+Refresh some time [21:33:13] TrevorParscal: What should I do with it? Deploy it? [21:33:22] to test.wikipedia.org - yes [21:33:29] plz [21:34:24] On it [21:34:29] :) [21:34:33] it needed love [21:35:27] Done [21:37:40] RoanKattouw: it is looking good [21:37:54] i just did the search for Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis [21:40:50] i think we are good [21:41:01] great job, RoanKattouw. [21:41:27] adam_miller: thanks for your contribution, hopefully we can rollout the bolding incrementally whenever you are ready [21:42:59] RoanKattouw: i sent you some favicons [21:43:07] don't deploy the wikipedia (white) ones [21:43:13] just the black test ones [21:43:17] whenever you get to it [21:43:48] Does it have to be today? [21:43:51] no [21:43:54] whenever [21:44:03] just sent them for fun [21:44:22] I'm going back to being on vacation now [21:44:26] nkomura1: i expect an autocompleted result to appear in the search box when i move to it with the keyboard arrows. it works like this in Monobook, but not in test.wikipedia [21:44:49] cary: http://www.wikimedia.org/ [21:44:57] no new logo? [21:45:06] and what about -> http://www.wikipedia.org/ [21:45:10] does that get the new logo? [21:45:13] I sent you one for it [21:47:35] bah [21:47:41] grumble grumble grumble [21:47:44] :)) [21:47:50] I'm working on the languages [21:48:12] k [21:48:13] no rush [21:48:14] aharoni: i don't have auto-complete feature in monobook [21:48:19] just noticed that [21:48:52] RoanKattouw: thank you for the search updates and the deployment work [21:49:03] *nkomura1 is going to take a break ... [21:49:16] eh? i refer to the good old autocomplete in the search box, not simplesearch [21:50:29] the word needs to be fixed too [21:54:20] aharoni: i'm in monobook. are you referring to the suggestions in the drop-down? [21:54:36] http://www.wikipedia.org :/ [21:54:36] yes, the suggestions. [21:54:59] (i guess that when you say "autocomplete", you refer to the browser autocomplete) [22:00:29] God, the png has problems [22:00:53] aharoni: i can get the same behavior in simple search [22:01:16] aharoni: i've got to run.. but would like to understand the problem you are experiencing [22:01:38] is Trevor gone/? [22:09:52] http://filebiin.ca/rfppxn [22:09:58] http://filebin.ca/rfppxn [22:23:55] Prodego_, you may want to update Wiki.png [23:45:23] ok now, can I find here someone responsible for that new design? [23:51:35] come on let�s discuss how you could exclude all the differnet browsers with good feelings, ... [23:59:48] 32 pepole online and no answer at all? I understand it was a hard week for you, but you also have to understand that we like to use wikipedia. but if we can�t anymore, we need changes, so give us at least the possibility to switch to monobook without registering.