[05:13:09] someone want to figure out why IE doesn't like absolute width cols? [05:13:51] display inconsistency among browsers sounds usabilityish [05:14:14] plus you are all way better at it then hoping someone will answer a bug report :) [17:03:47] hi everyone [17:03:57] does anyone knwo which extension to call for the meeting? [17:04:13] I'm not sure there is a meeting [17:04:32] Yesterday was a holiday, so presumably the Monday morning 10am staff meeting is right nwo [17:04:46] Also, Naoko isn't around [17:04:54] On a normal working day she would've shown up hours ago [17:05:06] vacation [17:05:13] hmm though we got this mail from eric [17:05:32] RoanKattouw: you have a meeting with erik [17:05:35] as in, right now [17:05:36] I do? [17:05:38] "UX meeting on Tuesday 10 AM pacific" [17:05:47] Ah yes [17:05:49] OK [17:05:52] I thought thats now [17:05:55] Yes [17:05:58] It's 10:06am [17:06:04] there's also another meeting in the same room. [17:06:09] guillom: do you knwo whcih extensions to call? [17:06:11] I'll grab my headset and find a place further from the TV :) [17:06:13] 2001 [17:06:21] hannes-_-: no, sorry, I'm not part of the meeting [17:07:37] here he is [18:38:07] RoanKattouw: so... our test.wikipedia.org logo got reverted [18:38:59] ? [18:39:04] By whom? [18:39:12] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki.png#filehistory [18:39:19] Tiptoety [18:39:25] guillom fixed it [18:39:32] you should maybe make a user page on test [18:39:36] Ah yes [18:39:40] Maybe [18:39:46] *RoanKattouw seems to be banking on name recognition too much [18:40:19] ah, sorry RoanKattouw, I just created your userpage there [18:40:28] feel free to change what I wrote [18:40:34] OK thanks [18:41:45] oracle "Nap?" [18:41:59] adam_miller: can you add a paste event handler to SimpleSearch [18:42:06] sorry, wrong window [18:42:22] can while you are at it, cut and click too [18:42:43] it's for the keydown handler to update the suggestions [18:42:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23622 [18:42:48] TrevorParscal: sure [18:42:52] i see you are already assigned [18:46:08] RoanKattouw: the $.cookie plugin we use should support parameters that set the durration of the cookie [18:46:12] did you play with that yet? [18:46:19] Didn't do anything yet [18:55:32] TrevorParscal: why are their two different calls to .suggestions() in SimpleSearch? [18:55:56] the top right one gets allot of special stuff that the others do not [18:56:04] where are they others? [18:56:27] so we call it first (which automatically initializes it) on all search boxes that might be there, and then again with more specific stuff on just the top right one [18:56:37] on a search page there may be another [18:56:50] gotcha [18:56:51] and if it's an advanced search page it's a diff id - rediculous [18:57:46] and then you have inputbox extension search fields as well, which are a total disaster :D [18:59:26] TrevorParscal: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/67194 [18:59:29] that all you're looking for? [18:59:51] looks good to me [18:59:58] going to lunch [19:00:03] bbl8r [20:03:11] Marco27, nkomura, she usually hangs out in here. [20:03:25] She's on vacation this week [20:03:58] ok, thanks kibble [20:04:05] RoanKattouw, the whole week? [20:04:21] I think so, yes [20:04:37] Okay, thanks. I sent her a message on gmail, so she'll see it when she wants to. [20:26:19] I never remember correctly this channel name [20:27:01] Auto-join list? [20:29:01] maybe, although I already have a large auto join list [20:33:27] TrevorParscal, is that parser prototype available anywhere? [20:35:57] *RoanKattouw encourages TrevorParscal to host it on github or something [20:36:27] it can perfectly go in a branch inside our svn [20:37:21] Hm maybe [20:37:27] Except that it's standalone at this point AFAIK [20:37:41] tools folder if you prefer [20:38:13] having stuff at foreign repos make it hard to find [20:38:41] if you know it's in the repository, at most you could grep the full hierarchy [20:38:52] True [20:56:13] RoanKattouw: yeah, my mediawiki 2.0 stuff ... I should put it on an SVN [20:56:17] I have it on a local one [20:56:25] brb - getting snack [20:56:33] RoanKattouw: when are you going to bed? [20:56:35] OK [20:56:41] Hmm, an hour or so I think [20:56:46] Working on school stuff [20:56:50] I want to schedule a catch/sync up meeting [20:56:53] But you can hijack me for work if you want [20:56:54] adam_miller: you too actually [20:56:55] OK [20:56:59] Ah [20:57:02] Not today please [20:57:03] everyone around tomorrow? [20:57:09] i am [20:57:14] Yeah, me too [20:57:22] RoanKattouw: i was going to schedule it today, for tomorrow [20:57:36] Yeah of course [20:57:38] That's fine [20:57:58] can we all do 10am PST? [20:58:01] I won't be available before 10:30 [20:58:12] 10:30 PST ok then? [20:58:24] Fine by me [21:00:36] sent invites [21:00:40] getting a snack [21:07:38] do we have any place where we release jquery extensions we've written? [21:07:51] more visible than mediawiki source I mean [21:08:05] Not really [21:08:24] Other than /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/plugins/jquery.*.js [21:08:31] Many of them are UI-specific [21:08:35] yeah, most of that is very specific to us [21:08:45] I have a few things that could be factored out and of general use [21:08:53] If there are any generic ones in there that we didn't pull of the net in the first place, feel free to publish them on jquery.com [21:09:19] ok. I want to keep them vaguely synced though. [21:09:23] You're welcome to generalize and publish things [21:09:38] I guess we mostly thought of it as a bother and were on a schedule [22:17:46] when did I leave here [22:17:51] anyway [22:18:15] Is anyone up for translations? http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Releases/Default_Switch [22:18:50] French, Spanish, German, Russian, Japanese, Portuguese, Dutch [22:18:55] :) [22:25:58] *RoanKattouw can do Dutch [22:27:24] It's a start. [22:27:51] I can do elementary French [22:29:58] That page uses {{status|missing}} and {{status|done}}, is there like a {{status|needreview}} ? [22:30:39] there should be [22:31:09] proofreading [22:31:13] or ready? [22:31:38] proofreading, I think. [22:34:13] Ah yes, I see it now [22:35:09] cary, I don't really see in that page what is it asking to be done [22:35:58] Platonides, the English pages need translating to the relevant projects [22:36:23] the Feedback page, the PR page [22:36:28] I see [22:36:40] are you going to impose those projects the new logo? [22:36:47] what did you do with the received feedback? [22:37:05] Platonides, the new logo is going on all the projects [22:37:12] The globe was modified [22:38:19] People's concerns were addressed to acceptable levels. Not everyone is going to be completely happy. [22:38:19] things like nohat criticism or globe size doesn't seem to have been taken into account [22:38:23] Um [22:38:26] Yes, it has. [22:38:35] The globe size was increased. [22:38:49] Nohat was satisfied with the changes. [22:38:57] maybe you missed that. [22:39:37] But the vector rollout is only marginally about the logo. [22:39:39] I'm not finding the discussion now [22:39:58] [[Commons:Commons talk:Wikipedia/2.0]] [22:40:00] Was the improved logo deployed to enwiki? [22:40:05] RoanKattouw, yes [22:40:29] was the original file also released and I didmiss it, too? [22:41:11] What do you mean, original file? [22:41:14] There' [22:41:18] there is a huge SVG file [22:41:43] the 3D file from which the svg was created [22:41:49] Actually, we're not discussing the logo right now. we need some pages translated about the Vector rollout. [22:42:10] Platonides, it's a non-proprietary file. I don't know if it's going to be released, however. [22:42:14] which is the "master" version afaik [22:42:25] Platonides, if you don't want to do the translations [22:42:26] non-propietary? what's that? [22:42:33] It's not in a free format? [22:43:25] even then it should be released [22:43:30] If you don't want to help translate, we'll find someone who is willing to do it. This is about the Vector rollout. It's important to create a feedback page and a page of foundation information, so more than just English speakers can figure out what's goin gon. [22:44:06] I may do it if I have time [22:44:35] even though I'll probably switch back to monobook the first day :P [22:44:41] Platonides, well, the logo is produced. The skin logo is ready to be set. It's identical to the one on English Wikipedia except for the tagline. [22:45:26] those logos should have been produced automatically imho [22:46:10] you mean by software? [22:46:22] yes [22:46:28] it's just changing a tagline [22:46:42] then have a human look at it and say "looks good" or not [22:46:54] ah well, the svg to png system on mediawiki doesn't read linux libertine yet. [22:46:58] we have a bug open for that. [22:47:11] that should be easy to fix [22:47:21] But for about 60% of the logos, it's not "wikipedia" [22:47:27] or I should say, "WikipediA" [22:47:46] and the tagline needs to be modified to fit directly under the word. [22:47:49] and the automatic conversion could transform it to curves [22:48:07] cary: Can't translations for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_experience_feedback/New_features be ripped off, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UsabilityInitiativePrefSwitch?uselang=fr ? [22:48:12] there could be an app for easy modifying [22:48:17] by filling text boxes [22:49:34] RoanKattouw, I don't know [22:49:47] I'm just trying to follow up with my responsibilities from last week's meeting [22:50:04] so we can have a smooth transition to vector for the 2-10 group next week [22:50:07] recreating the screenshot in the content language would be nice [22:50:23] OK [22:50:46] That page is virtually identical to Special:UsabilityInitiativePrefSwitch so I say we just copy the translations from there [22:50:54] And mark them as needing proofreading [22:58:21] who is going to answer the feedback on the other languages? [22:59:11] and seems the language section is still collapsed by default [23:00:27] Platonides, hopefully someone volunteers to ambassador [23:00:40] I mean we have a spanish speaker in the office, but we don't want to make her do it. [23:02:10] okay, something went wrong [23:11:13] mdale: hey, I think you overwrote my change in r66739 -- I refactored some time functions. Was that intentional? [23:11:27] nope [23:11:37] okay I'll put it back in [23:11:39] I ran an svn up before hand [23:12:09] take us back in time [23:12:09] I refactored seconds2npt so I could get the raw time before formatting. [23:13:00] oh wait, you changed the name to seconds2Measurements? [23:13:05] yea [23:13:13] nm then [23:13:33] cleaner name, and non ambiguous measurement keys [23:13:38] I fixed uploadHandler too [23:13:53] Maybe I accidentally overwrote that [23:14:11] or sorry uploadWizard.. but i might have not committed it yet since I started doing a lot of changes for add-media-wizard integration [23:14:46] but its at home either way ;) [23:17:03] TrevorParscal: Haven't had time to poke at cookie expiry so far, will poke tomorrow before our meeting hopefully [23:17:11] cool [23:17:13] thanks! [23:17:53] adam_miller: There are only three levels of commit access: only /trunk/extensions, everything but /branches/wmf, and everything [23:18:05] So if you have commit access to one extension you have commit access to another [23:18:22] If you have commit access to phase3 (I seem to recall you committing fixes to Vector CSS), you definitely do [23:18:40] well it let me commit it so i was assuming that was the case [23:18:46] thanks for explaining though [23:18:57] RoanKattouw: how would i get access to edit MediaWiki:Monobook.css? [23:19:04] On which wiki? [23:19:27] flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org and eventually en.wikipedia.org [23:19:48] Well you have to be a sysop for this [23:19:58] IIRC you should be in the staff group and have these rights on enwiki [23:20:02] maybe i was mislead in thinking i should edit that file [23:20:05] flaggedrevs labs may not have SUL, not sure [23:20:10] What do you want to achieve? [23:20:40] in monobook, there are icons which are being incorrectly positioned, and i would like to fix that at least for flagged revs [23:21:34] Right [23:21:36] Well [23:21:51] Per my wikitech-l post, you could persue a solution that doesn't require skin-specific CSS [23:22:08] Or you could add something like body.skin-monobook selector { rule; } [23:22:26] (Not sure that class is on the , but it's somewhere) [23:23:00] it's on body [23:23:27] i think i'll try some other things first before requesting powers i dont need [23:36:55] TrevorParscal: I've committed a completely untested attempted fix for the cookie expiry thing, gonna get some sleep nwo [23:37:10] k [23:37:15] I will review [23:37:37] Be sure to test it, too : [23:37:46] I might have introduced syntax errors for all I know [23:38:36] nimish_g, it's much easier to work on when Europe is awake, however. [23:38:41] & howief