[00:06:15] <thedj>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#New_Vector_Skin_development:_policy_issue_.28not_a_bug.29
[00:06:56] <thedj>	more discussion by editors who feel left out of the decision process of a more usable skin design
[17:15:19] <cary>	argh
[17:15:39] <cary>	poke enhydra
[17:15:53] <enhydra>	oh cary, I was just about to poke you
[17:16:08] <enhydra>	but you poked me first
[17:16:13] <cary>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UsabilityInitiativePrefSwitch?uselang=ru <-- we can copy this to ruwiki
[17:16:29] <cary>	as the equivalent of
[17:17:08] <cary>	[[en:wikipedia:User experience feedback/New features]]
[17:17:10] <RoanKattouw>	Yes
[17:17:19] <RoanKattouw>	That's what I was gonna suggest for the untranslated language
[17:17:21] <RoanKattouw>	s
[17:17:22] <cary>	The other page still needs to be translated.
[17:17:30] <cary>	The feedback page.
[17:17:35] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah
[17:17:59] <RoanKattouw>	Shall we contact the translators of the existing New features pages about this?
[17:18:42] <cary>	RoanKattouw, dpm'
[17:18:43] <cary>	gaju
[17:18:51] <cary>	don't make a big effort
[17:19:15] <enhydra>	I’m sorry, do you want me to update something or what?
[17:19:37] <cary>	enhydra, Actually, I just want to know what to name the page :)
[17:19:53] <cary>	what is Russian for Wikipedia:User experience feedback/New features
[17:20:19] <cary>	I can create the page and wait for vvv to do the rest.
[17:20:38] <enhydra>	it’s not so easy to invent a non-bulky name, give me some minutes
[17:20:58] <enhydra>	assuming WP:User_experience_feedback has no Russian iwiki
[17:21:11] <cary>	right :)
[17:22:46] <enhydra>	I think of an option, but it implies “usabilists” which is somewhat jargonic and may be treated as diminishing
[17:31:12] <enhydra>	Project:Отклики_о_пользовании/Новые_возможности
[17:31:42] <enhydra>	cary?
[17:33:36] <cary>	sure
[17:55:24] <cary>	bah, RoanKattouw what is the Mediawiki page where that is storede.
[17:55:53] <RoanKattouw>	Ah
[17:56:12] <RoanKattouw>	Spans several of them
[17:56:35] <RoanKattouw>	Oh it's just prefswitch-main and prefswitch-main-on it seems
[17:56:54] <RoanKattouw>	Oh and there's prefswitch-main-anon
[17:57:06] <RoanKattouw>	You can translate stuff in the MediaWiki namespace but we prefer translatewiki
[17:57:17] <cary>	got it.
[17:57:23] <cary>	No, i just wanted to copy the wikimarkup
[17:57:30] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[20:03:06] <thedj>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#New_Vector_Skin_development:_policy_issue_.28not_a_bug.29
[20:32:56] <RoanKattouw>	It's a TrevorParscal !
[20:33:22] <RoanKattouw>	TrevorParscal: In other SVN news, someone made a change today claiming it sets the language dropdown to be expanded by default
[20:33:29] <RoanKattouw>	Haven't seen the code but thought I should tell you
[20:35:21] <guillom>	RoanKattouw: he just left his desk, discussing with parul in the collab space
[20:35:41] <guillom>	talking about what you just said, actually
[20:35:49] <RoanKattouw>	OK
[20:35:57] <RoanKattouw>	Not looking for an immediate response, just informing
[20:46:26] <TrevorParscal>	RoanKattouw: so, between the colors of links and the initial state of the language links, the world is changing in my absense
[20:48:00] <RoanKattouw>	The latter was today BTW
[21:01:28] <thedj>	Sometimes the star just keeps on turning, and doesn't stop. This happens (every once in a while, but not always) when you add/remove/add/remove/add an article quickly by clicking many times on the star. I use the latest version of Firefox and the latest version of Mac OS.
[21:01:50] <thedj>	wasn't a fix done for that recently ?
[21:02:00] <thedj>	or was that another timing issue...
[21:17:38] <TrevorParscal>	RoanKattouw_away: you there?
[21:19:48] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah
[21:19:50] <RoanKattouw>	Just watching TV
[21:26:47] <RoanKattouw>	TrevorParscal: So, I'm here. Why did you ask?