[13:32:54] <kibble>	RoanKattouw_away, do you know what's up with the "pre-release CentralNotice" that's supposed to go out on the top 10 Wikipedias today?
[14:11:02] <RoanKattouw_away>	Not really
[14:11:07] <RoanKattouw_away>	Ask Cary tomorrow
[19:51:13] <vvv>	Where can I find interwiki collapsion discussion?
[19:51:35] <RoanKattouw>	foundation-l
[19:51:41] <RoanKattouw>	I'm almost done writing my post
[19:51:45] <RoanKattouw>	I almost never post there
[19:51:51] <RoanKattouw>	There's also a wiki page on usabilitywiki
[19:51:54] <RoanKattouw>	Lemme look it up
[19:52:27] <RoanKattouw>	http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opinion_Language_Links
[19:56:05] <vvv>	By the way, what was the point of hiding anything in sidebar?
[19:57:55] <RoanKattouw>	Don't ask me
[20:00:41] <vvv>	Did UX team do click tracking investigation?
[20:01:30] <RoanKattouw>	We ddi
[20:01:40] <RoanKattouw>	I don't remember what the numbers for these language links were, though
[20:05:21] <vvv>	Did it consider the fact, that it's not neccessary to *click* language link if you want to find out the translation of the term in other language?
[20:10:00] <RoanKattouw>	I don't know
[20:10:27] <vvv>	Sidebar still needs major redesign
[21:20:33] <vvv>	If I fix usability bugs myself, what are chances of being killed by usability people?
[21:23:04] <RoanKattouw>	They should be close to zero
[21:23:08] <RoanKattouw>	As I argued on foundation-l
[21:24:43] <RoanKattouw>	If it's not something hugely controversial, you'll be fine
[21:24:51] <RoanKattouw>	If in doubt as to whether something is controversial, ask
[21:25:54] <vvv>	If I write interwiki prioritizer, should it be commited as core part, extension or UX part?
[21:26:36] <RoanKattouw>	UX for now probably
[21:26:51] <RoanKattouw>	So you intend to write code that decides which interwikis to show?
[21:27:00] <RoanKattouw>	You should probably talk to Howie to exchange ideas
[21:41:42] <vvv>	RoanKattouw: show all, emphasize most
[21:42:08] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[21:42:14] <vvv>	*most used
[21:43:24] <RoanKattouw>	Well we're happy to accept code, but obviously it's not very productive if you write and commit code that does one thing just when we decide we want to do something else, so I definitely recommend you talk to Howie (hfung) tomorrow morning (Pacific Time)
[21:44:49] <RoanKattouw>	<RoanKattouw>	Well we're happy to accept code, but obviously it's not very productive if you write and commit code that does one thing just when we decide we want to do something else, so I definitely recommend you talk to Howie (hfung) tomorrow morning (Pacific Time)
[21:45:16] <vvv>	What did you currently decide?
[21:49:06] <RoanKattouw>	I don't know
[21:49:11] <RoanKattouw>	I *think*
[21:49:31] <RoanKattouw>	We're gonna do something like show a few likely languages based on the browser language and top10 languages
[21:49:46] <RoanKattouw>	Then show a [84 more] link below that
[21:50:23] <RoanKattouw>	But then I haven't been paying as much attention to this as I probably should have; you should talk to Trevor or Howie to find out what the current line of thought is
[21:50:33] <RoanKattouw>	I also think there hasn't really been a decision yet
[22:04:23] <vvv>	I hope nobody is going to roll out UX thing without IW problem being fixed or at least decided how to fix?
[22:05:41] <RoanKattouw>	Like I said on foundation-l, I will reinstate Platonides's revision tomorrow if nobody stops me
[22:13:13] <Ashlee>	Erik said it's fine.
[22:20:26] *Jamesofur 	actually likes (in general) the compromise Howie was talking about
[22:20:38] <Jamesofur>	though before that is ready I'd prefer them all visible
[22:20:42] <Jamesofur>	(by default)
[22:21:17] <Jamesofur>	I think the show 5 or so with a more button makes it much more obvious what is happening then the languages menu
[22:28:49] <vvv>	Well, there will be lot of language politics