[13:24:52] <Nikerabbit>	hmp not here
[13:25:08] <RoanKattouw>	Who're you looking for?
[13:27:25] <Nikerabbit>	neil
[13:28:02] <RoanKattouw>	Heh yeah he wouldn't be here at 6:30am
[13:40:17] <Holek>	hm
[13:40:20] <Holek>	I was thinking...
[13:40:39] <Holek>	is it possible to use contenteditable in articles?
[13:40:55] <Holek>	I'm refering to HTML5 contenteditable
[13:40:57] <Holek>	http://html5demos.com/contenteditable
[13:43:12] <RoanKattouw>	Thing is that's only supported in the newest browsers
[13:43:18] <RoanKattouw>	We have been working with an iframe in design mode
[13:43:38] <RoanKattouw>	Which is more widely supported, but has its own nightmares when it comes to getting it to behave predictably cross-browser
[13:44:12] <Holek>	I didn't mean "to replace by", just as an addition
[13:45:03] <RoanKattouw>	I understand
[13:45:21] <RoanKattouw>	But inline content-editable generally requires that you're able to convert wikitext to HTML (which we are, obviously) AND BACK
[13:45:24] <RoanKattouw>	The latter is the problem
[13:45:36] <Holek>	aah
[13:45:40] <Holek>	yeah, right
[13:45:48] <RoanKattouw>	It's why Wikia's FCKeditor is midly successful at achieving WYSIWYG-like editing but enrages experienced editors
[13:46:14] <RoanKattouw>	For instance, last time I worked with it (which, admittedly, is like 2 years ago) it replaced all links like [[Foo]] with [[Foo|Foo]]
[13:46:19] <Holek>	yeah, it ain't a beauty
[13:46:28] <RoanKattouw>	Both are perfectly valid syntax for the exact same thing
[13:46:34] <RoanKattouw>	So it *can't know* which one is "right"
[13:46:53] <RoanKattouw>	wikitext -> HTML -> wikitext simply is not round-trippable
[13:47:35] <RoanKattouw>	And I believe any editor that does make that assumption, while it could be kind of nice, fundamentally fails
[13:47:46] <RoanKattouw>	</rant>
[13:58:15] <Nikerabbit>	http://www.reinasugiyama.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/css_is_awesome_mug-p168716435071981928qzbf_400.jpg mmm
[14:00:27] <RoanKattouw>	haha
[14:00:47] *RoanKattouw 	wants that mug, if only to give it to someone else
[18:08:37] <guillom>	thedj, just wanted to thank you for pointing people to the Q&A page on the Commons feedback page. I appreciate it a lot.
[19:59:37] <Nikerabbit>	Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '1' of null
[20:00:42] <Nikerabbit>	aww now I lost the line number... around 300-580 in combined.js
[23:19:24] <TrevorParscal>	anyone got any neat ideas for a name for the source-code -> JSON object gizmo (documentation extractor) I'm working on...?
[23:47:28] <guillom>	Ariane
[23:49:48] <guillom>	(ok, perhaps I'll be the only one to get it)
[23:54:43] *guillom 	feels lonely.
[23:54:48] <wizardist>	:*(
[23:55:29] <wizardist>	Placebo - I Know is good for such moments
[23:55:40] <wizardist>	not for lyrics, but for music
[23:55:40] <guillom>	:)