[04:49:08] brion: Pretty decent. Make sure you connect to the one that needs the password though, the other one is really slow. [04:50:14] Cool :) [06:37:31] shalooommmmmm [06:40:14] Mushrooms. [06:40:34] mush, mush [06:51:49] Some people are having problems connecting to IRC due to weird ports being blocked. [07:08:36] oh no, not again... :P [07:10:56] Can't get on my irc bouncer directly [07:11:01] I've had to ssh tunnel for it [07:11:52] Same here. No idea which ports are being blocked. ssh, http, and https are obviously open. [07:12:05] Reedy: ssh: connect to host gerrit.wikimedia.org port 29418: Network is unreachable [07:12:30] is it something wrong with my configs somewhere, or .. . [07:12:35] The default IRC port is apparently open, but not others commonly used for ssl, bouncers, etc. [07:12:45] tonythomas: That's because gerrit uses a non-standard port, and that port is blocked. [07:13:11] anomie: yeah. true. [07:13:11] ...oh dear. [07:13:39] ffs [07:13:50] Do we know how/who to get this escalated to? [07:15:21] I just told Rachel, since I happened to be sitting next to her. [07:16:29] Siebrand has a tech contact [07:16:54] *facepalm* [07:17:01] What ports does anyone want? [07:17:11] all of them! [07:17:12] He's asked for Gerrit [07:17:23] "I did ask them to basically open all ports [07:17:23] Probably not going to happen" [07:18:25] who is going to help with wikimedia-labs on hackathon this year? both yuvi and Andrew aren't here :/ [07:18:46] I mean if there are some people I might try and join you, although I might need to catch up with recent updates [07:19:04] petan: bd808 and valhallasw`cloud [07:19:37] We need gerrit, there are some specified ssl irc ports, quassel usually uses a specific one, but we also have a finite number of fairly random other bouncer ports. [07:19:44] bd808, valhallasw`cloud ok if you needed more helpers, let me know :P [07:20:06] Isarra: yes I had this problem too, had to use ssl tunnel to get to my bouncer [07:20:24] you can probably make ssl tunnel through labs as well [07:20:29] I used my private server though [07:20:38] Some of us aren't very technical. >.> [07:21:23] Reedy: looks like gerrit is open now [07:21:26] That's technically against the Labs terms of use though. ;) [07:21:29] yay [07:21:37] well, at least I just pulled core [07:21:37] anomie: probably yes :P [07:22:00] anomie: we have made exceptions for these kinds of cases before ;-) [07:22:06] oh wait, I'm on Hansen Wifi though not the wikimedia one... [07:22:10] valhallasw`cloud: That's why I said "technically" [07:22:52] but seems to work on "wiki media" too [07:23:39] Isarra: If you're using the normal command-line ssh, it's just `ssh -L :: `, then connect to localhost:. If you're using something else, look in your menus I suppose. [07:24:21] hehe Reedy https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809 [07:24:35] * anomie tries a git fetch, gets nothing useful [07:25:52] anomie: hmm, yeh, I now get nothing useful again... [07:26:01] mosh is also blocked [07:26:21] Took a few minutes, finally died with "ssh: connect to host gerrit.wikimedia.org port 29418: Network is unreachable" [07:26:45] anomie: have you tried "hansen wifi"? I just successfully pulled on that one again [07:27:27] addshore: The "wiki media" wifi need to get fixed anyway. :( [07:28:00] yeh, I like how there was a phab ticket for making sure ports were not blocked! I guess not much came of it though! [07:28:25] I wouldn't be surprised if it got communicated but the internet provider ignored it. [07:28:58] petan: o/ valhallasw`cloud and I are planning on grabbing a table in the hacking room to be the labs/tool labs help desk. Anybody who can help answer questions for a while over the next 3 days is more than welcome to take a shift helping out. [07:29:07] ok in worst case I am happy to help with setup of ssh tunnels :P, so if you need technical assistance, let me know Isarra [07:29:19] bd808: I note there's several rooms labeled "hacking room" [07:29:30] OH NOES STEAM WON'T LOG ON [07:29:35] WAHAHAHAAAA [07:29:43] no truck simulator for you Reedy [07:29:51] I'm just using the hansen wifi so it's not really an issue there, but if it's a big enough problem we may wind up with a lot of people trying to use it and murdering it. Which would be sad. [07:31:07] 15/20mb down and roughly 5mb up on the hansen wifi :P [07:32:01] 3mb down and 3mb up on the "wiki media" one :P [07:33:20] o/ [07:33:30] hello [07:37:48] O_o [07:38:17] \o/ [07:38:21] Isarra: Behave. [07:38:40] Never. [07:55:21] any Ruby hackers in the house? [07:55:34] * matanya ~ ? [07:55:59] abartov: please don't swear [07:56:14] If anyone wants to work on ch extensions or would like to document how to do that, I might be able to help, or could potentially also use help. Unfortunately I am apparently far too terrified to actually stand up. [07:56:18] I apologise for that. [07:56:48] Isarra: What are ch extensions? [07:56:55] Er, contenthandler. [07:57:01] Aah OK [07:57:04] Reedy: hater! Ruby is a thing of beauty. I understand some of you are somewhat traumatized by Puppet. I have no experience with Puppet, and won't defend it. [07:57:08] Sorry, acronyms. XD [07:57:29] * RoanKattouw is European so CH = Switzerland ;) [07:57:32] for ref: the tool i spoke about: https://tools.wmflabs.org/video2commons/ [07:58:51] * abartov will be hacking on http://wikiedu-dashboard-staging.wmflabs.org/ [08:20:23] hey anyone have the link to the page with the table of where people are and what they're wokring on? :D [08:20:33] want to add https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131436 / https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiHack16-JavaScript :D [08:20:39] brion: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2016/ParticipantInfo [08:20:45] tx [08:22:50] woo [08:24:13] Anyone else having issues with git/dns? I'm unable to route to gerrit.wikimedia.org. [08:26:25] well shit [08:26:40] brion: I take that's a 'yes'? [08:26:53] James_F: yeah i see the same on 'wiki media' network [08:26:58] James_F: https access works for me to the UI. haven't tried to push [08:26:58] packets just vanish? [08:27:05] i can't even ping it [08:27:19] I think all icmp is blocked :/ [08:27:43] Yeah. [08:27:45] ..... ok that makes sense then [08:27:49] yeah https seems ok [08:27:50] wtf [08:28:35] git-over-ssh-on-funky-port fetch works though [08:29:28] ssh: Could not resolve hostname gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418: nodename nor servname provided, or not known [08:29:31] Helpful. [08:30:13] James_F: how are you connecting? [08:30:21] valhallasw`cloud: ssh. [08:30:46] James_F: sorry, I mean which command. ssh uses -P for the port number instead of a : [08:30:47] Direct. I could proxy via WMF production but (a) that's not OK and (b) that's not available to most people. [08:31:11] eh, -p [08:31:27] so ssh -vv gerrit.wikimedia.org -p 29418, which doesn't work over the wiki media wifi [08:32:11] it does work over the hansen house wifi [08:33:38] addshore: quick review on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/252262/ ? [08:34:32] Discussion on revision slider on in the ground floor big hacking room. [08:36:32] bd808: I'm now in room 1.9 / caesarea [08:37:05] valhallasw`cloud: perfect. I'm in 1.3 for mw-vagrant install but nobody has come yet [08:41:58] tonythomas: etc, I'll be over in a bit :D [08:42:02] just talking about revision slider! :D [08:42:08] addshore: alright ;) [08:42:17] we got the table right about the entrance [08:47:10] tonythomas: awesome, and in the time being if you need anything just ping me :D [08:47:24] addshore: alright :) [08:50:08] parent5446: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131445 [08:50:16] parent5446: Not sure if it's related to you moving the 2FA login page thing [08:51:56] So, I'm trying to do Boolean logic using MediaWiki page titles. The idea being that I am developing a central repository for Wikipedia-related requests as a standalone app and I want people to "transclude" these lists based on a standard page name format. [08:52:42] For instance, {{Wikipedia Requests/Category/Living people}} would generate a list based on all requests that are tagged in the category "Living people" [08:53:26] But what if I want to do set comparisons? Would it be sufficient to do, for example, {{Wikipedia Requests/Category/Living people/not/Category/2016 births}} if I wanted to exclude Category:2016 births? [08:53:41] Is there a simpler way for me to do this? Is there anything I'm missing? [08:55:35] Yah! It works :-) [08:59:31] Reedy: Darian took over that patch. Do we know exactly what stopped working? [08:59:56] halfak:hi, where can I find you? [09:00:21] parent5446: Yeah. When you tried to visit slightly restricted pages, it was behaving like you hadn't logged in with 2FA [09:00:24] Giving a useless error [09:00:39] OK I'll check it out [09:02:17] parent5446: I'd say to test it on labtestwikitech.wikimedia.org, but that's on .18 apparently [09:04:24] SMalyshev: Hi, where could I find you? [09:04:39] tarrow: I'm in Tel-Aviv right now [09:04:58] ah, ok. You coming back? [09:05:02] avner, Outside (main area) in 5 minutes [09:05:04] tarrow: after that, on lunch ) [09:05:18] tarrow: so, probably just catch me on lunch [09:05:22] * greg-g waves, from a sleepless SF timezone [09:05:30] I guess my body wants to be there [09:05:51] SMalyshev: awesome; Ill see you at lunch. [09:07:04] RoanKattouw: can get your help with testing the upload limit raise in beta labs ? [09:07:46] matanya: Sure. It's in mw-config, right? [09:07:57] Then first submit a patch for InitialiseSettings-labs.php that raises it [09:08:01] RoanKattouw: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/266544/5/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php [09:08:06] And another patch on top of that that moves it to InitialiseSettings.php [09:08:18] greg-g: Welcome! [09:09:14] matanya: Do those instructions make sense? [09:09:21] yes, doing now [09:10:46] RoanKattouw: funny enough, labs doesn't have upload limits [09:11:51] 'default' => 1024 * 1024 * 2047, // 2047 MB (i.e. less than 2^31 - 1) [09:11:56] If the setting isn't set in InitialiseSettings-labs.php , it'll inherit the one from production [09:13:09] ok, so i'll just change on prod [09:14:10] Why, then it'll change it for prod too? [09:15:54] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280831/ [09:16:37] Should I be putting specials/ in an extension in includes/ or /? [09:16:59] Isarra: There's no real consistency there [09:17:09] AFAIK extensions generally don't tend to have an includes/ dir, but some do [09:17:11] Which is better? [09:17:48] Depends how complex the extension is [09:17:48] IMO an includes/ dir is probably overkill unless you have a large and complex extension [09:17:58] But I don't know what the Canonical Wisdom on this is, or if there is any [09:18:04] It's... getting kind of large. [09:18:10] DWTFYWWI [09:18:29] I want it to be well-organised. >.< [09:18:55] well, organise it hten? [09:19:00] How? [09:19:05] That's what I'm asking! [09:19:07] Bah. [09:19:36] Where is the session for the National Library of Israel? [09:19:37] I'll just dump all the php in includes/ unless it gets dumped somewhere else. [09:19:51] content/ should be in includes/ too, shouldn't it? [09:20:26] Yes [09:20:35] If you're going that way, both specials/ and content/ should be subdirs of includes/ [09:20:39] Mirroring the MW core structure [09:22:05] Alright, thanks. [09:23:36] wtf is with the bieber music [09:24:12] Is it worth creating a folder for specials etc if there's only three of them? [09:24:12] Or should I just be dumping everything together? [09:36:09] tonythomas: I added a comment to it :) [09:36:29] http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/8751 [09:39:54] addshore: done. [09:40:09] tonythomas: +2ed :) [09:40:15] addshore: :) one down ! [09:42:18] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiHack16-JavaScript <- the notes page for JS plugin [09:43:16] Isarra: Up to your tastes [09:44:22] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiHack16-JavaScript [09:45:29] I don't have any! [09:47:53] Aloha. So, is there anybody by any chance who would like to learn about writing bots for chat apps, and make it work for editing MediaWiki from a chat app? (I'm focusing on Telegram—it seems to have the most open bot API.) [09:48:59] aharoni: it seems... fascinating. [09:49:13] I don't know that I have a use for it yet, but I might? [09:51:25] @aharoni why not Slack? [09:54:37] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Tool-Labs-tools-Other: Discuss the future of Commonists Org metrics tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131438#2167720 (10JeanFred) >>! In T131438#2167690, @Lena wrote: > When are you planning to have this discussion ? I had not really planned to work on these things at th... [09:54:42] \o/ [09:57:53] idoivri: Slack would be good, too. I want to make it work with _anything_ as a proof of concept, and extend it further. [09:58:12] (Telegram is nice because it's more open, but anything goes.) [10:00:06] bd808: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131460 :( [10:00:14] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Tool-Labs-tools-Other: Discuss the future of Commonists Org metrics tools - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131438#2167740 (10JeanFred) >>! In T131438#2167690, @Lena wrote: > When are you planning to have this discussion ? I had not really planned to work on these things at th... [10:00:17] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#1966607 (10Petrb) Please open 8822 TCP it's http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X... [10:01:11] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Tool-Labs-tools-Other: Present and discuss the Commonists Org program evaluation tools to WMF stakeholders - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131438#2167745 (10JeanFred) [10:03:22] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: Design feedback on the Newsletter extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116353#2167760 (10Addshore) [10:04:06] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: Design feedback on the Newsletter extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116353#1747393 (10Addshore) [10:05:20] ooooh, I didnt know the bot was in there! [10:05:23] *here [10:05:32] Magic. [10:08:05] matanya: 4096 [10:11:33] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-April-2016: Introduction to Wikimedia Tech (code areas, infrastructure tools, communication venues) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130829#2167851 (10Aklapper) [10:12:53] addshore: it wasn't! ;-) [10:14:38] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ProofreadPage, 10VisualEditor, 6Wikisource: Add the visual editor to Wikisource - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93525#2167874 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [10:15:00] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Discuss the Tech Infrastructure of the Monuments database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131435#2167889 (10JeanFred) We took over the Masada room. If we can take the food in rooms then let’s meet there. [10:15:50] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:WikiProject_WikiWidgets [10:20:29] hihihi hackers :) [10:21:16] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: Design feedback on the Newsletter extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116353#2167905 (10Qgil) [10:21:35] putnik, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service/Word_lists/ru [10:24:11] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: "Manage" label in Newsletter detail page is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131457#2167918 (10Qgil) [10:24:32] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: As creator / publisher of a newsletter, I cannot edit its description - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131454#2167919 (10Qgil) [10:25:12] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: "Manage" label in Newsletter detail page is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131457#2167920 (10Tinaj1234) >>! In T131457#2167894, @Qgil wrote: > I still see "Manage" at http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Spe... [10:26:14] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Community-Tech, 7Category, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey: Improve diff compare screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121469#2167921 (10Qgil) [10:30:59] OH GODS WE'RE HACKING THERE'S SO MUCH HACKED WHAT HAVE WE DONE?! [10:32:54] addshore: , tarrow , I'm outside the front entrance [10:33:05] It's a nice half shade here [10:33:11] Under an olive tree [10:48:57] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Discuss the Tech Infrastructure of the Monuments database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131435#2167950 (10JeanFred) Etherpad : https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/monuments-meetup [10:52:59] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: WMF Technical Collaboration meet and greet - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131471#2167966 (10Qgil) [10:53:09] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Community-Liaisons, 6Developer-Relations: WMF Technical Collaboration meet and greet - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131471#2167966 (10Qgil) p:5Triage>3Normal [10:59:03] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2167984 (10siebrand) Add @johan as subscriber. All ports requested to be opened... [11:11:37] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2168016 (10siebrand) [11:13:53] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#1966607 (10Reedy) 4242 for Quassel is still not working... [11:16:45] Danny_B: Are you in the contenthandler thing? [11:17:28] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Community-Tech-Tool-Labs, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant, 15User-bd808: MediaWiki-Vagrant install party (#wikimedia-hackathon-2016) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122335#2168025 (10bd808) We managed to get 4 people with existing installs that were having problems unstuck, 1 complete... [11:19:31] Isarra: He's not [11:20:58] Huh. [11:21:10] He wanted to make a thing with it. [11:21:16] Or something. [11:21:19] I don't even know. [11:21:57] notes from chat about video large file support with matanya https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiHack16-Video [11:22:03] tzafrir: first, fork this: https://github.com/WikiEducationFoundation/WikiEduDashboard [11:22:45] tzafrir: and follow https://github.com/abartov/WikiEduDashboard/blob/master/docs/setup.md [11:23:53] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Discovery, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Query-Service: [Discussion] Wikidata Query service intro - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131437#2168042 (10Jonas) [11:29:16] tzafrir: oh, and don't worry about importing course data. skip that step. [11:36:59] tgr|away: Should we take advantage of physical proximity to try to get https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/240052/ done? [11:38:59] anomie: which room are you in? [11:39:11] tgr: The "Jerusalem" room [11:40:32] I am sitting in a freaking garden, in the shade, in a perfect temperature, with birds chirping, next to a beautiful building. This is an amazing hackathon venue! <3 [11:40:44] http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/8757 [11:40:46] ggp ^ [11:40:48] http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/8757 [11:42:29] * tonythomas reminds bd808 about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131460 [11:45:35] tonythomas: *nod* let me log in an poke around [11:45:45] bd808: thank you :) [11:49:41] rfarrand: I don't think we've had good outside seating at a hackathon since the one at C-Base in 2009? [11:49:55] (That venue is awesome but was sadly too small, even then) [11:49:55] I liked lyon too [11:49:59] Oh, yeah [11:50:11] That's right [11:50:26] :) [11:50:32] except the wifi in Lyon was really really bad [11:50:36] I forgot about that because of my hay fever problems [11:50:42] oh, right [11:50:46] do you have them here? [11:50:47] I had to avoid going outside [11:51:05] A little [11:51:05] Not that bad yet [11:51:05] But I also have pills with me that I could tkae [11:51:12] And thanks to Lyon I now know better what kinds of antihistamines work for me [11:51:24] bd808: remember that? the wi-fi was so bad that we discovered a new bug in vagrant [11:51:33] tonythomas: I don't think I did anything, but I can't recreate T131460 [11:51:44] bd808: and the provision works ? [11:52:13] tonythomas: hmm just tried `vagrant roles list` -- let me test the provision [11:52:42] bd808: okey. the error came up when we tried the provision - remeber ? [11:55:40] tonythomas: provision is running now... no error yet [11:56:02] tonythomas: the problem was on newsletter-test yes? [11:56:17] bd808: well, in that case --- yeah- with newsletter-test [12:01:45] tonythomas: "==> default: Notice: Finished catalog run in 442.56 seconds" -- success?! [12:01:54] I changed nothing I swaer [12:02:13] bd808: hmm. this is not the first time :) [12:02:33] Thanks anyway, and it looks like labs is haunted [12:05:51] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Discuss the Tech Infrastructure of the Monuments database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131435#2168178 (10JeanFred) 5Open>3Resolved General notes * André : We have been meaning to move data to Wikidata. WMSE has got funding to make it hap... [12:09:49] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Cleanup Wiki Loves Monuments Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131479#2168227 (10JeanFred) [12:10:15] bd808: added what happened over here - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131460#2168239 [12:11:38] tonythomas: I think that one time that initial error was caused by bad permissions on /srv/mediawiki-vagrant/puppet/hieradata/vagrant-managed.yaml [12:12:01] * bd808 should actually look to see if a better error message could be made [12:12:09] bd808: yeah. exactly :( [12:12:22] hey, do we have anyone from Analytics here? [12:14:44] abartov: I don't think so, no [12:14:59] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: "Manage" label in Newsletter detail page is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131457#2168262 (10Glaisher) I think the actual issue which MZMcBride pointed out is that it linked to Special:ManageNewsletters which s... [12:15:27] bd808: thanks. Who might be interested in discussing with a volunteer a hypothetical censorship monitoring tool, based on pageview API? [12:15:59] test [12:16:02] abartov: hmmm... maybe halfak ? [12:16:05] o/ [12:16:17] tools.wmflabs.org/eranbot/edits_eranbot.pkl [12:16:35] halfak: abartov has someone wanting to talk about "a hypothetical censorship monitoring tool, based on pageview AP" [12:16:38] *API [12:16:51] halfak: wanna pop by 1.13 Eilat? (ground floor, opposite where the coffee station was in the morning) [12:17:16] Can stop by there in ~10 mins [12:17:28] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Sources: Groom the backlog of WLM sources requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131480#2168264 (10JeanFred) [12:17:34] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: Design feedback on the Newsletter extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116353#2168279 (10Glaisher) [12:17:36] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: As creator / publisher of a newsletter, I cannot edit its description - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131454#2168277 (10Glaisher) 5Resolved>3Open The linked patch only changes the HTML readonly attribute to be true on... [12:17:40] In the very back of the big room by the entrance. [12:17:50] It's on the right just as you walk in the front door. [12:18:00] he's coming to you. [12:18:06] his name is Rotem [12:19:09] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Database: Write down a process for migrating Monuments data to Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131482#2168300 (10JeanFred) [12:21:39] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Sources: Groom the backlog of WLM sources requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131480#2168317 (10JeanFred) [12:22:01] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Database: Write down a process for migrating Monuments data to Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131482#2168325 (10JeanFred) [12:22:18] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Cleanup Wiki Loves Monuments Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131479#2168328 (10JeanFred) [12:24:52] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2168354 (10siebrand) [12:25:46] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#1966607 (10siebrand) The message I got was "Please try they opened it", so pleas... [12:27:58] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: As creator / publisher of a newsletter, I cannot edit and save its description - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131454#2168389 (10Addshore) [12:29:14] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Sources: Groom the backlog of WLM sources requests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131480#2168391 (10Strainu) Done, except for Nepal which I assigned to @Lokal_Profil (hopefully it will get done) and the German land, where we need to see if @gabriel-wmde... [12:33:13] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-April-2016: Introduction to Wikimedia Tech (code areas, infrastructure tools, communication venues) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130829#2168413 (10Malyacko) 5Open>3Resolved Done! \o/ [12:37:25] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: "Manage" label in Newsletter detail page is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131457#2168452 (10Qgil) Do you mean that it should be "Publishers" instead? That would work better, yes. [12:41:15] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: "Manage" label in Newsletter detail page is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131457#2168491 (10Glaisher) I don't have any strong opinion about the term we use. Publishers/Managers/Collaborators all of these fine... [12:46:03] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Community-Tech, 6Developer-Relations, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 5 others: Goal: Connect the priorities of the Community Wishlist and other tech priorities with the Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119703#2168505 (10Niharika) [12:46:59] quick question in #wikidata about API queries if anyone has time :) thanks! [12:47:56] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: Design feedback on the Newsletter extension - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116353#2168512 (10Glaisher) >>! In T116353#2167708, @Qgil wrote: >>>! In T110642#2006505, @MZMcBride wrote: >> * http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.o... [12:48:17] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Community-Tech, 6Developer-Relations, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 5 others: Goal: Connect the priorities of the Community Wishlist and other tech priorities with the Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119703#2168515 (1001tonythomas) [12:52:03] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey, 13Patch-For-Review: Improve date range searches on Special:Contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120733#2168546 (10Sumit) [12:58:52] in a few minutes, we're going to be talking mobile, apps, and energizing readers into editors (among other things) in Dead Sea (room 1.3) [12:59:05] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Triage all WLM feature-requests and bug-reports tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131490#2168572 (10JeanFred) [13:00:02] is anyone planning to work on T109561 or the larger "dark acrchive" theme? [13:03:14] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Sources: Triage all WLM sources requests for the Monuments database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131480#2168602 (10JeanFred) [13:04:25] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: "Manage" label in Newsletter detail page is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131457#2168603 (1001tonythomas) [13:04:27] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: As creator / publisher of a newsletter, I cannot edit and save its description - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131454#2168604 (1001tonythomas) [13:06:37] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 13Patch-For-Review: "Manage" label in Newsletter detail page is confusing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131457#2167621 (1001tonythomas) Closing this down, and adding it to the task T131489. This would mean that we keep Special:Newsletter/<... [13:08:24] ranyitzhaki: example using api - https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&ids=Q42|Q1337&format=json [13:12:03] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Pywikibot-Other-scripts: enriching wikidata entities with MARC data from libraries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131417#2168634 (10NationalLibraryofIsrael) >>! In T131417#2167440, @putnik wrote: > Wikimedia RU currently has a preliminary agreement with the Russian State Lib... [13:12:37] siebrand: plesev poke when around [13:14:28] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Community-Tech, 7Category, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey, 13Patch-For-Review: Improve diff compare screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121469#2168641 (10Jdlrobson) Played around with this: {F3809743} {F3809744} Very rusty right now but if interest I'd be happy to continu... [13:17:14] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-April-2016: Introduction to Wikimedia Phabricator (project management tool) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130828#2168661 (10Aklapper) 5Open>3Resolved This happened, with 10 attendees (but no Etherpad) and a few questions. [13:17:45] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016: Discussion: Brainstorm ideas for new directions in microcontributions from mobile web and apps. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131156#2168666 (10Jane023) Mundane actions I do on a regular basis is copying the same information from English Wikipedia to Commons and Wikidata (or an... [13:18:33] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Community-Tech, 7Category, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey, 13Patch-For-Review: Improve diff compare screen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121469#1879711 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T121469#2168641, @Jdlrobson wrote: > Very rusty right now but if interest I'd be happy to cont... [13:19:08] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2168673 (10Gilles) [13:19:57] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-April-2016: Introduction to Wikimedia Tech (code areas, infrastructure tools, communication venues) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130829#2168675 (10Aklapper) This session happened with 8 attendees (but no Etherpad) and many questions (e.g. diff... [13:23:31] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Database: Write down a process for migrating Monuments data to Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131482#2168300 (10VIGNERON) FYI: all MH of France (Mérimée) are already on Wikidata (I think UK has been done too but I'm unsure). [13:30:02] matanya: check. [13:31:58] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Reviewers [13:32:06] thanks siebrand [13:41:24] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations, 3DevRel-March-2016: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2168762 (10siebrand) [13:42:17] matanya: 29 minutes left according to UW. [13:42:57] thanks [13:48:08] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Discuss the Tech Infrastructure of the Monuments database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131435#2168792 (10JeanFred) [13:51:06] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016: Discussion: Brainstorm ideas for new directions in microcontributions from mobile web and apps. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131156#2168803 (10Trizek-WMF) Ping @jmatazzoni: that task and [[ https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/discussion_mobile_apps_microcontributions | the etherp... [13:55:26] matanya: 41 minutes left now. Yay for progress bars... The upload pattern is still the same. [14:01:56] valhallasw`cloud: Where are you hiding? [14:02:11] See some really weird things on toollabs [14:02:13] other side of the building [14:02:16] next to bd808 [14:02:26] what's happening now? [14:08:22] Anyone know how editnotices work? Are they part of editpage? [14:11:22] matanya: Now it's an hour. That doesn't look good. [14:11:43] matanya: I don't see upload traffic any more. [14:11:59] matanya: it stopped about a minute ago. [14:12:01] Isarra: that sounds vaguely familiar yeah, somthing in EditPage should be pulling them [14:12:04] but i'm not sure exactly [14:12:29] ugh [14:12:45] Isarra: the notices are however loaded via Title::getEditNotices [14:12:50] wtf Title class [14:12:59] ...YAY! [14:13:06] I mean... [14:13:11] No, I mean yay. [14:13:41] :) [14:13:45] We can still use them for things not using editpage. [14:14:12] thanks siebrand I will try to figure that out later, you can get rid of the setup, thanks much for the help [14:14:43] matanya: Want me to let it run for another half hour to see if maybe it was processing server side? [14:14:57] yes, please [14:15:07] i wish we had some output [14:15:57] matanya: Additional information: I set my preferences to 3 concurrent uploads. I don't know if that meant that three chunks should be uploading simultaneously, or 3 files only. [14:16:06] Isarra: Badly. [14:16:18] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2169006 (10Petrb) XmlRcs works [14:16:24] no clue siebrand [14:16:26] Isarra: There's a nice patch being worked on to make them more useful. [14:16:29] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2015, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences, 7Accessibility, 7Design: Accessibility settings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91201#2169007 (10FreedomFighterSparrow) Thanks, quiddity :-) @violetto, any obvious next steps you can think of? [14:16:39] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2169008 (10Petrb) [14:17:34] James_F: Cool. [14:17:48] Maybe they'll do what I want then if they don't now. [14:18:22] What do you want from them? [14:20:21] bd808: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280914/ [14:23:42] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Sources: Triage all WLM sources requests for the Monuments database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131480#2169048 (10JeanFred) Thanks @Strainu that’s great! [14:25:20] T130780 [14:25:21] T130780: Tools, Labs, & MediaWiki-Vagrant help desk (#wikimedia-hackathon-2016) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130780 [14:25:28] good job stashbot [14:25:36] * valhallasw`cloud pets stashbot [14:27:24] siebrand: I am out, if it didn't work within this 1/2 hour, we hit the timeout. see you tomorrow [14:27:36] matanya: later [14:32:38] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Triage all WLM feature-requests and bug-reports tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131490#2169083 (10Lokal_Profil) Did we also agree on merging all projects? (or making them sub-projects)? [14:33:38] Are there any people from Poland at the hackathon? [14:36:25] siebrand: czechs and hungarians, if you'd like instead ;-) [14:38:44] Danny_B: They don't need Szlotys [14:43:14] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 3DevRel-April-2016, 10Developer-Relations (April-2016): Introduction to Wikimedia Tech (code areas, infrastructure tools, communication venues) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130829#2169156 (10Qgil) [14:43:16] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 3DevRel-April-2016, 10Developer-Relations (April-2016): Introduction to Wikimedia Phabricator (project management tool) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130828#2169157 (10Qgil) [14:43:20] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 10Wikimedia-Blog-Content, 3DevRel-April-2016, 10Developer-Relations (April-2016): Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 report - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130707#2169159 (10Qgil) [14:43:22] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 3DevRel-April-2016, 10Developer-Relations (April-2016), 7Documentation: Document how the organization of content and schedule works in Wikimedia hackathons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130592#2169160 (10Qgil) [14:50:08] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-Sources: Triage all WLM sources requests for the Monuments database - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131480#2169193 (10Strainu) 5Open>3Resolved Gabriel took care of the rest, so I guess we can say this is done [14:52:14] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Community-Liaisons (April-2016), 7Documentation, 7I18n, 3Liaisons-April-2016: Create an easy to maintain glossary to facilitate documentation translation (help pages and technical documentation) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129088#2169216 (10Qgil) [14:57:28] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Developer-Relations: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2169244 (10siebrand) [15:22:29] Reedy: you still at the venue? [15:23:13] or anyone else? Coren has a request for someone to help out [15:23:33] Someone left an apple power adapter in eilat. [15:23:52] Should I grab it or just leave it? [15:24:01] Isarra: I'd say grab it [15:24:12] also could you go look for coren's laptop? [15:24:12] OkAY. [15:24:18] wHERE? [15:24:55] 2nd table on the right in the first hacking room [15:25:12] closest to the entry/exit door I guess [15:25:35] Grey case? [15:25:45] Jerusalem? [15:26:04] he says "silvery black thing" [15:26:08] textured [15:26:27] he says if you open it the screen lock would say his name [15:26:39] * bd808 hums "say my name" [15:27:21] Don't see anything. [15:27:59] ok. thanks for looking [15:28:14] Didn't find it, so I'm heading to the shuttle. [15:28:31] go go go [16:11:18] Isarra: that's my power adapter. please to bring [16:38:35] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Thanks, 7Community-Wishlist-Survey: Add ability to thank anonymous/IP users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63022#2169499 (10MGChecker) [17:18:27] FlorianSW__, Reedy You wanna sit next to each other so you don't have to use IRC? [17:18:45] Where's the fun in that? [17:18:58] Yes, true [17:22:24] Hello, everyone. I'm not actually there. Hope you don't mind me hanging out in your channel. :) [17:52:25] anomie: what's a better place for username uppercasing, the special pages or the providers? [17:54:57] tgr: The provider, which should already be uppercasing by calling User::getCanonicalName() or the like. [18:04:42] For future reference the bathroom on the post chill-out floor is labeled something like "Oo" rather than iconography or labeling we expect ;) [18:05:56] I just went back to my room :D [18:11:20] Heh I locked the stall too hard or something I'm stuck inside [18:11:26] Someone is working on it :) [18:17:56] I am freee [18:29:41] anybody sees danny horn? [18:30:54] Danny_B: Pinged him in -staff, he doesn't appear to be here. [18:32:55] brion: the bathroom labeling is indeed confusing. i didn't know it was a bathroom. [18:34:41] Yeah took me ages to find it [18:35:02] And beware the lock on the left stall is sticky [18:35:59] brion is 2m away from harej and they chat on irc? [18:36:10] brion is out of my field of vision! i couldn't see him in the room [18:36:20] he is behind me, as such. [18:36:31] Lol [18:36:32] Danny_B says "no excuses" [18:39:13] Danny_B: dannyh says to look for him tomorrow. [18:39:21] !leaks [18:42:50] MarkTraceur: thx [18:42:54] My pleasure [19:07:23] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 6Community-Liaisons, 10Developer-Relations (Apr-Jun-2016): WMF Technical Collaboration meet and greet - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131471#2170140 (10Qgil) [19:07:39] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 10Developer-Relations (Apr-Jun-2016): Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 Opening Session - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130776#2170142 (10Qgil) [19:08:33] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Developer-Relations (Apr-Jun-2016): Optional Day 2 Opening: Want help on your project? Want to find a project to help on? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130775#2170146 (10Qgil) [19:15:03] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization: Get important info about IRC & Gerrit Ports to wifi / internet providers for Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124809#2170172 (10Qgil) [19:23:45] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization, 6Community-Tech, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, 6TCB-Team, and 3 others: Goal: Connect the priorities of the Community Wishlist and other tech priorities with the Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119703#2170219 (10Qgil) [19:23:51] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Developer-Relations (Apr-Jun-2016): Discussion: Redefine Wikimedia Hackathons? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124262#2170221 (10Qgil) [19:25:50] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization: Newcomer Support: Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 (Jerusalem) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122274#2170225 (10Qgil) [19:27:46] legoktm: gj. [19:27:51] ty. [19:28:05] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016-Organization: Hackathons: Help people connect and start collaborating in advance of Hackathons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120092#2170227 (10Qgil) [21:14:45] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-API, 10MediaWiki-Special-pages, 7Easy, and 2 others: Special:ApiSandbox URL field must have ltr direction - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131433#2167164 (10Florian) p:5Triage>3Normal [21:26:50] yuri around? [21:28:53] I think he went to bed [21:43:54] * bd808 surely is [21:44:24] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Cleanup Wiki Loves Monuments Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131479#2170621 (10JeanFred) We can now close #wiki-loves-monuments-unused-images [21:44:29] bd808: In bed or around? [21:44:36] My battery is not far off dying [21:45:18] Reedy: around still. I'm in the room with the benches around the walls [21:45:27] probably should think about sleeping [21:51:02] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Cleanup Wiki Loves Monuments Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131479#2170632 (10JeanFred) And also #wiki-loves-monuments-toolbox [22:03:16] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, 13Patch-For-Review: Refactor MessagesXX.php magic words and order the magic words by some logical convention - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116020#2170662 (10cscott) Restating some conversation/planning from IRC: # We're currently waiting on... [22:30:51] anyone still in the hostel's common room? [22:31:17] i left a power strip there [22:31:44] its a small 3-way splitter plugged into a huge long power strip [22:33:12] sorry, connection dropped if someone replied [22:34:27] 10Wikimedia-Hackathon-2016, 10Wiki-Loves-Monuments-General: Cleanup Wiki Loves Monuments Phabricator projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131479#2170803 (10JeanFred) And #wiki-loves-monuments-mobile is empty now as well.