[03:31:08] the people at the help desk looked confused when I asked if anyone was hacking at 11pm [03:38:30] :-D [12:23:49] Hello everyone! People are starting to trickle into the Hackathon space (4th floor ballroom, same floor as registration). See you soon! [12:58:31] WHO WANTS LOGOS MADE FOR THEIR PROJECT/EXTENSION/DOOHICKEY/WHATEVER? [12:58:36] I'LL MAKE LOGOS. [12:59:00] If someone has a tablet I can use to sketch them they might even be good logos. [12:59:10] But that's not needed. [13:23:46] who needs good logos, we don't need no stinkin' logos ;) [13:27:05] addshore: where'd you go? [13:32:41] greg-g: I'LL PUT A LOGO ON YOU. [13:32:53] Wait, you probably already did that yourself. Get any stickers yet? [13:39:09] Isarra: yup :) [13:39:24] Isarra: it was a bad Cheech and Chong joke/reference :) [13:40:02] Ah. Not so familiar, sorry. >.< [14:02:43] woohoo [14:22:54] kegsteakhouse.com heh [14:23:11] it's down the street from Sheraton, and if you eat any meat... do it there :) [14:23:26] it was pretty amazing and rated #2 steak house in Montreal or so [14:32:11] hello IRC folks :) [14:32:40] hi [14:34:41] ugh, I forgot how to make my Vagrant setup's HTTP port forwarding accessible on non-localhost interface [14:34:55] Isarra: Seriously though, I need a logo for plantdata.io. :) [14:35:13] is it safe to set host_ip to nil? or does that break everything... [14:37:21] ok, i hacked the host_ip setting out of the forward line in Vagrantfile. not sure that's the right thing but it seems to work [14:41:23] Notes for the opening session of the WIkimania hackathon: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimania_Hackathon_17_Opening [15:04:51] ragesoss: there is a lady here from wikimedia italy who had question about program dashboard [15:05:06] by the mentoring table [15:06:10] Please redirect newcomers to the session for them! it's now in Drummond East, 3rd floor [15:06:47] Please stop using the SheratonMeeting network. Use Wikimania17 / Montreal17. Our apologies for the delay in getting this working, but tradition has to be honored. [15:06:47] Wifi: Wikimania17 / Montreal17 [15:20:31] Wifi in the topic now :) [15:20:54] #lolsecurity [15:22:02] marktraceur: TYVM! [15:23:30] hi Lydia_WMDE ! [15:24:00] Lydia_WMDE: who should I ask for my pink pony property again? :p [15:24:39] As a quick reminder to everyone here, this has never been an "official" Wikimedia channel, so we don't have the normal anti-spam bots or bang-ops detection, so if you need ops attention please ping one of the voiced users in here. [15:25:06] I'll check in over the course of the hackathon but I can't promise I'll be ever-vigilant. [15:27:47] leszek_wmde: so the build revert was because of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172616 and I guess we have to see if that is fixed [15:28:37] leszek_wmde: it doesnt look like anyone from the team looked at it yet? [15:50:18] K4-713: Plantdata, eh? [15:50:21] PLANTS? [16:12:35] hello, we had the wrong time for lunch on the schedule. It is actually 12:30 - 13:30 [16:13:02] I am updating the schedule [16:22:47] :D [16:47:55] 13:00 - How can I get ORES in my Wiki? - Drummond East (Level 3) [16:58:18] 13:00 - Let us talk parser hooks! - Salon 7 (Level 3) [17:09:52] Anyone here from CI knowing about Phan and configuration around that? [17:23:22] addshore: https://github.com/DataValues/DataValues/pull/40 [17:31:50] CFisch_WMDE: hi yes! I know a little about phan [17:32:08] hey :-) [17:32:27] I run phan locally using the manual way to install phan [17:32:37] and I get errors that do not turn up on CI [17:32:47] I was just about to write a ticket [17:32:53] where are you? [17:32:56] I [17:33:00] 'll come and take a look [17:33:05] Ballroom, the man with the had ^^ [17:36:09] but I will have a talk in a few minutes so maybe we meet after that [18:34:21] Isarra: yo - got some lousy logo work for you ^^ [18:36:22] Isarra: basically we're going to release a light version of Wikimed (the offline medical corpus form WP) [18:36:50] Isarra: the original logo (for the "big" app) is here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MedLogoNoWiFiEn.png [18:37:35] Isarra: anything to make it same-same but different (e.g. like for FB/FB lite) would be welcome [18:38:31] Thiemo_WMDE: let me know when you're around! a volunteer is working on documentation of {{#statements}} and we would need your help :) [18:52:46] Auregann_WMDE: Sure. I will, but I'm in an other room at the moment. [19:00:02] Srishti Sethi: [19:00:02] @everyone Cuteness group photo is just after the main group photo after 5, so get ready then with your plush toys :) [19:07:55] Kiwix: What is FB/FB lite? [19:09:34] Talking about photos, @Elitre , I volunteered to take it, but there are at least 5 people here with better cameras. I have a tripod here if some photographer wants it, though. [19:12:56] Isarra, I assume facebook/facebook lite [19:16:03] Isarra: Facebook/Facebook lite apps [19:16:08] There's a facebook lite? [19:16:24] Er... assume I know absolutely nothing about facebook. >.< [19:16:57] Oh, you want a sort of inverted logo? [19:17:01] Isarra: sorry about that ^^ [19:17:25] Isarra: yup - or anything that similarly conveys it's, well, lighter [19:17:41] Okay. [19:18:31] We had a working version where we removed the central light blue circle from the Wikimed logo, keeping only external circle and caducea [19:18:54] Isarra: oups forgot to ping you on the last one [19:19:06] Aye. [19:19:23] Is Birgit on IRC? whats her nick? [19:19:33] hah [19:19:43] Birgit_WMDE [19:19:44] Well, it's an answer. [19:19:57] Thanks IRC! [19:22:52] ragesoss: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikiphotoop_terrible_logo.svg [19:33:54] hello if there is Nihat Velizada amongst you, please let me know :) [19:34:44] bd808: I'm thinking of adding Composer instructions to Template:ExtensionInstall. Is there any drawback to telling the user to run composer install in the extension directory (instead of composer update in the MW directory)? The files will end up in a different place but as far as I understand everything will work anyway and it's the only way to prevent composer from randomly updating all kinds of stuff [19:35:42] o_O [19:35:57] it shouldn't really randomly update stuff should it? [19:40:34] * brion hopes our deps are pinned reasonably well :D [19:42:46] *correction*! Cuteness group photo is after the main Wikimania group photo - not the hackathon group photo. :) [19:45:07] brion: composer update upgrades everything to the newest available version (within the constrainst given within composer.json, of course) [19:45:40] resuming announcements: 16:00-18:00 - Install Party for newcomers - Ballroom West (Level 4) [19:45:40] 16:00 - Design FLOSS events for developers - what we've learned - Drummond East (Level 3) [19:45:40] 16:00 - Public TechCom meeting - Salon 7 (Level 3) [19:46:10] if a package uses semantic versioning, or something close enough, there is no point in pinning the minor version in composer.json [19:46:37] still, I wouldn't want to update all packages just to install a new package for a new extension [19:46:54] relying on semver is ....... not reliable imho [19:46:58] but hey :D [19:47:24] unfortunately composer does not have an "install missing packages but do not update existing ones" command [19:47:24] Kiwix: You want specifically the nowifi en logo switched to light mode? [19:47:58] Isarra: yup [19:51:12] tgr: isn’t that what `composer install` does? [19:54:26] Lucas_WMDE: that would be the nice way for composer to behave IMO, but atually composer install does nothing if composer.lock exists already [19:55:05] if a package is in composer.json but missing in composer.lock it doesn’t install it? [19:55:23] that sucks [19:57:11] Lucas_WMDE: my personal experience is, that it's often better to use composer update in MW context [20:08:41] petan: Nihat is at the 4th floor [20:25:16] legoktm: could you help me undraft this rev? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/317546/ [20:26:01] apparently only gerrit admins, Max or jgirault can do that :( [20:28:11] hmm [20:28:16] I don't see a publish button [20:30:12] maybe I can use the API? [20:31:11] if you can see the latest patchset (PS4 is not the latest), you can probably download it locally, rebase and upload as another patchset [20:34:04] legoktm: you probably need to be an owner of the repo. [20:35:56] thedj: published! [20:38:23] legoktm: thx ! [20:39:35] np [20:42:54] 17:00 - TechCom charter presentation and discussion - Salon 7 (Level 3) [20:56:35] K4-713: File:Plantdata terrible logo.svg [20:56:41] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Plantdata_terrible_logo.svg [20:56:43] Sorry. [20:57:31] Isarra: I thought you said you were going to give us a *bad* logo. :) [20:57:33] This is great! [20:57:45] ...oops. [20:57:50] * K4-713 uses immediately [20:57:58] I'm not trying to be unfair, here. they're supposed to be bad. [21:00:27] Might have to give it googly eyes or something. [21:00:29] :p [21:01:05] Googly-eyed database eating a salad. [21:01:40] Oh deary. [21:02:32] This is why I don't design logos. [21:03:18] Isarra: nice ! [21:04:56] To be fair, my idea for fixmebot was the ores logo surrounded by eyeballs and on fire. [21:05:11] lol [21:05:12] I'm a little uncertain how to go about that. [21:05:34] Does anyone here who can actually draw wanna draw me a samoyed? [21:05:48] Or should I just trace some random commons file? [21:11:21] Happy hour happening now for hackers. [21:13:25] Isarra: I could probably draw a samoyed, but it might look suspiciously like a database eating a salad. [21:21:42] DO IT. [21:21:50] I mean... [21:22:00] I didn't say that. Nobody tell her I said that. [21:25:32] Anyone know how to make virtualbox find the internet? [21:31:46] Are they blocking torrents? [21:32:42] Nevermind. They work. [21:55:47] Isarra: did you plug the virtual cable? [21:56:32] I did. >.< [21:56:59] Nothing changed. [21:59:25] Isarra: if u want I can come and fix it [22:02:34] petan: HALP PLOX [22:03:39] but I can't find you [22:03:49] I'm at the bees sign. [22:04:46] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bees_sign_wikimania_2017.jpg [22:09:05] so it turned out she forgot to power it off and on again [22:10:33] I forgot to plug in the physical cable. [22:13:30] lies [22:14:17] bees [22:37:22] mtdu, statistics.thresholds.true [22:37:35] thresholds.true [22:47:27] There is a planned 30 min internet interuption tonight throughout the hotel at midnight [22:47:47] Which networks does this affect? [22:49:29] checking, I think its all of them [22:55:29] hoo: all of them [23:04:49] 30 minutes is a long time. [23:35:52] Reedy: Can you please undelete https://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Q81561 ? Its required for https://de.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Statements [23:42:37] oh no, the hotel is running out of disk space! http://i.imgur.com/WE71hHl.jpg