[03:10:38] https://github.com/JTLunsford/bash-rest-server looks like the language wars are over now and we have a clear winner [03:17:25] hi [03:17:27] o/ [03:18:34] found this channel searching on wifi developer [03:18:54] my english is very bad :/ [03:20:02] i try access api wifi from linux , try work low level on send packets and received this [03:20:49] with any languague , c,c++,python,java,go,etc [03:20:53] any , [03:21:16] Can you help me with my search? [03:21:24] thanks [13:50:01] Hey all, crossposting a quick announcement as this is not featured on the programme: Community Liaisons would love to have a chat with you today about the future of Tech Ambassadors and Tech Translators. Meet us today, 3-3.45 pm, in Salon 2 level 2. See you there! [13:55:09] Hey all, we are having a meetup today in ballroom west (level 4) at 1:30 pm to talk through specifics after my morning presentation y'day since we heard from a bunch of folks for more info / details. Please pass the word around. [13:55:54] Which presentation is this? Schedule doesn't include blurbs/authors and it's kind of tedious clicking through all of them. >.> [13:56:17] https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikitext:_upcoming_changes,_available_tools,_what_you_can_do. [13:56:41] <3 [13:57:10] I do regret missing that one. [13:58:14] Isarra, the slides are published and etherpad has notes .. but you can come and chat in person as well. [13:58:27] Cool. [14:01:28] So I'm seeing a definite bias in terms of the session selection at this wikimania. In particular, it looks like any technical submissions that don't directly relate to editing were just thrown out... >.> [14:01:48] Fortunately they kept the editing ones, at least. [14:01:51] That's SOMETHING. [14:04:56] I think I disagree? that's a single track, but there are others. [14:06:10] There's also a lot of wikidata sessions [14:06:29] Which is also specifically editing. [14:07:01] hmm, I guess so. I'm too affected by WMf silos and have them separate in my mind [14:07:08] I mean, it's good they have sister projects. Great, even. But seeing MY sister project completely excluded where it doesn't apply to editing other ones makes me grumpy. >.> [14:07:14] sound, image, video is also strictly editing? I dunno. [14:07:41] there's a session about wikispecies... [14:07:44] I suppose this is a conference for editors, not "devs", so it kind of makes sense [14:08:09] It's supposed to be a conference for the movement. Hence all the outreach, glam, etc stuff, too. [14:08:28] And development, free software in general, mediawiki especially, are definitely part of the movement. [14:10:14] There was almost more dev stuff at wikiconference north america, and that was at the same time as the hackathon. [14:10:58] ...I'll stop grumbling, though. There's still logos to make. [14:11:00] And goats. [14:11:33] I feel like there are enough tech events all year round that we probably don't need also moar tech stuff into the main Wikimania programme. [14:12:37] I'll include a goat into our submission next year. Maybe that will finally get us a session. [14:13:10] Solid plan. [14:13:24] I kind of wish there was more tech talks that were kind of "out there", most fo them seem like "what is WMF team X currently doing" [14:13:41] And yeah, we don't need the backend tech stuff here. But just... things to tell other people what's going on. Or what could be going on. [14:13:47] I'd love for there to be tech talks from non-wmf people proposing totally out there ideas [14:14:14] bawolff: then again when there aren't those "WMF" talks people yell for not being told about plans etc. :) [14:14:41] yeah [14:14:50] The people we'd be presenting to aren't the technical ones at this, which is the whole point! It's the non-technical who have no idea what's going on, what's possible, etc. It's what makes the wikidata tutorials and things like parsoid so important to talk about, because otherwise these people would never hear about them. [14:14:51] bawolff: I think those would be fun sessions! Dunno that one needs a physical event for them though. [14:14:57] And just avoid them on-wiki. [14:15:24] Elitre: no probably not, but we are all here [14:15:45] bawolff: I like those when we do them at offsite etc., but then they get me excited on stuff that's 1) unfeasible 2) too expensive etc etc :) [14:16:14] bawolff: I think as long as we have the dev summit for more technical presentations, then its OK that Wikimania is a bit less technical. But if the dev summit scope is reduced then I think we need somewhere to accept those kind of talks [14:16:51] Elitre: there' is that too expensive factor, but sometimes once people have an idea, other people can think about it and figure out cheaper ways to do them [14:16:52] in recent memory I think London had a lot of technical talks, but IIRC there was also specific outreach to get non-Wikimedia MediaWiki developers to show up [14:17:07] Dev summit and offsite and such also kind of exclude volunteers. [14:17:12] Those are largely just staff events. [14:17:27] yeah, I know, and I appreciate this event isn't primarily for "me" [14:17:48] But it would be a good event for you to share what you do with a totally different sort of audience. [14:18:19] A lof of non-technical contributors are interested in what's going on. And we need to be able to present it coherently to them anyway in order to move forward in general... >.> [14:18:22] at some level, that can be done at the community village. [14:18:32] The hell even is the community village? >.> [14:18:45] Is that where all the tables with posters are? [14:18:50] Yeah. [14:19:04] the tables where you get to know what the chapters do. a few WMF depts also have one. [14:19:09] It always came across to me as DARK SCARY CORNER, CHAPTERS RESIDE HERE. [14:19:23] Chapters are scary. [14:19:28] Um. [14:19:59] Chapters folks are people too... [14:20:03] #chapterlivesmatter [14:20:10] Yes. [14:20:30] So are staff! And they also matter! [14:20:35] * Isarra hastily hides her pitchfork. [14:29:28] Sorry about the grumpiness. It looks like I'll get distracted by anything to avoid doing any real work. [14:29:56] Anyone wanna fix timeless for me? >.> [14:35:22] How do you use macros and memes in phabricator? [14:35:46] asking the important questions! [14:37:17] Isarra: macros are words (or hyphenated-words) that if you type on a line by themselves will turn into that image [14:38:14] go to a comment anywhere and just type "goat-for-it" (no quotes) and it'll show you :) [14:41:02] Ohoh. [14:41:05] greg-g: Thanks. [14:41:27] * Isarra cackles a bit. [14:58:45] Silly question, but is spending an entire hackathon not actually hacking and doing vaguely related things like making logos a reasonable use of a hackathon? [14:59:27] Because on one hand, we have so many projects that need (better) logos, but on the other, I just feel kind of bad. Like I was doing the wrong thing. [14:59:35] But it's like documentation, right? Sort of? Maybe? [15:04:13] WFM [15:32:02] Isagoat: You are improving technical projects. If that's not the point of a hackathon i don't know what is [15:32:59] I feel like maybe that's something we should be emphasising more. Especially at newcomers. It doesn't just have to be *hacking*. [15:33:10] If anything that's more important, because 95% of us are shitty at art, so your improving an area that is massively under-done [15:33:25] Heh. [15:41:13] bawolff++ :) [16:04:53] Wow drummond is cold [17:03:01] PSA: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/2926/, https://twitter.com/SourceGoat and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Goat_of_arms.svg [17:48:36] Niharika: wooooo!!! [17:49:49] hi bagoat and legoatm! [17:49:52] mtdu: are you in the hackathon room [17:50:11] bagoat: No, not at the moment. [17:50:38] ok, I was just going to mention that I'm actually going to the keynote thingy, so I'm not going to be either [17:50:55] wait, bagoat, you're bawolff right? [17:51:01] oh right sorry [17:51:12] Goatification for devine glory! [17:51:20] I am indeed bawolff [17:52:02] Haha, the WikiLove thing got merged by addgoat, :) [17:52:06] MatmaRex_mobile: do you know where the ComplexNamespaceInputWidget is used so I can figure out how to use it? [17:53:45] MatmaRex_mobile: Why no MatmaGoat_mobile? [17:53:49] legoatm: it might not be used anywhere D: [17:53:57] why indeed [18:09:13] Birgit_WMDE! Birgoat_WMDE ? [18:09:25] addgoat: yes :-) [18:09:47] addgoat: This is goating out of hands :D [18:09:58] hehe :D [18:10:29] hoo, I can't think of how goat fits into your name :/ [18:10:46] * hoo is ungoatable [18:10:55] Ash_Crow > Ash_Goat? :D [18:11:04] :D [18:11:10] :D [18:11:22] * bagoat approves of Birgoat_WMDE [18:11:25] greg-g -> greg-goat? :D [18:11:46] heh [18:13:07] addgoat: I'm on the 4th floor, where are you? [18:13:45] hoo_goat? [18:13:49] rfarrand: your name is not goatified yet! [18:13:53] Hackspace, but coming up stairs [18:13:57] rgoatand [18:14:15] sitting next to the restrooms [18:16:03] Nick greg-goat is now registered to your account. [18:19:18] when someone says "this goat thing has gotten out of hand". then shall success be known. [18:20:13] chasemp: Just think, you could be goatmp right now :) [18:27:14] I'm thinking about it :) [18:35:16] Why goats? [18:35:51] Why not?! [18:37:59] greg-goat: I don't know but I feel like I'm missing something.... [18:38:09] bir_goat [18:38:12] Cam11598: They are the new cats [18:38:27] It was from the opening presentation of the hackathon [18:38:43] and a bit before that ... :-) [18:38:48] Goats are goats. [18:38:55] I am the goat. [18:38:56] rfargoat: nice name! [18:38:57] THE GOAT. [18:39:03] bagoat: Well while y'all are goating it up y'all should make some goat themed barn-stars then :p [18:39:16] goat for it!!! [18:39:24] we definitely< would love that :-) [18:39:25] Protector of the Goat [18:39:30] Cam11598 please create yourseld a Phabricator task for that [18:39:34] ^ [18:39:39] *yourself [18:39:46] rfargoat: lol I wish I was at wikimania this sounds halarious [18:40:24] Cam11598: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/macro/view/53/ [18:41:18] bagoat: Okay I guess I'll make a goat barnstar phab task [18:42:08] Or I'll just make a goat barnstar [18:44:05] Man, that goat. [18:51:38] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uPWoEteY/goat%20barnstar.png [18:54:21] Goatstar. [18:55:02] Now I need to do it as a vector [18:55:10] * Cam11598 grumbles about not having photoshop [18:55:26] Meh I'll leave it as a png [18:57:25] goatstar [19:07:16] #done [19:57:39] bd808: You objected to the dumb colours bar in timeless, right? [19:59:26] WHAT IF IT WERE SOLID $COLOUR LIKE PHABRICATOR? [20:00:40] I mean, the entire header. [20:01:15] Operation Turn Timeless Into BlueSky [20:02:21] Timeless: WoOgLeShadey BlueSky [20:16:32] !ping is pong [20:16:33] Key was added [20:16:34] !ping [20:16:34] pong [20:16:46] Infobot was already enabled [20:16:46] @infobot-on [20:17:16] Channel had already quiet mode disabled [20:17:16] @suppress-off [20:30:54] :3 [20:31:24] I find it slightly worrying that this is #3. [20:31:37] Changed default instance of #wmhack to goat-bot [20:31:37] @instance goat-bot #wmhack [20:32:03] * K4-713 raises eyebrow [20:32:04] there is too many bots for freenode to handle from 1 session, so it's actually a botnet :P [20:32:11] you know goat-bot is in more than 400 channels :P [20:32:38] I am in 428 channels at this moment [20:32:38] @channellist [20:34:12] goat-bot, what do you do? [20:34:38] :) [20:39:04] goat-bot is best [20:41:34] !slap act slaps $1 with a fluffy goat [20:41:34] Key was added [20:41:38] !slap subbu [20:41:38] * goat-bot slaps subbu with a fluffy goat [20:43:45] oh man ... goat-bot is angry [20:45:35] This user is now online in #huggle. I'll let you know when they show some activity (talk, etc.) [20:45:35] @notify addgoat wm-bot has fallen as a victim of great goatification :| [20:53:34] so in the copyright click through for wikipedia, the sentence " You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license." [20:53:49] what is it a hyperlink to that I'm agreeing to [20:54:12] Is http://example.com sufficient attribution to say i wrote an article? [20:54:20] because that's kind of rediciulous [20:54:24] hyperlink to wikipedia [20:54:29] hyperlink to my user page? [21:03:40] * legoatm hugs MatmaRex_mobile [21:04:03] :o [21:04:10] * MatmaRex_mobile hugs legoatm [21:05:01] inline confirmation!! [21:09:22] I'm jealous of other peoples' phab badges. Can someone give me a silly phab badge? [21:17:20] no hat collecting! :) [21:17:49] * bd808 contemplates a friend of goats badge... [21:27:59] half-goat clearly needs a goat badge. [21:28:13] * half-goat agrees [21:28:17] :D [21:36:19] James_F: ha, love your 'too quick?' comment :) [23:03:19] James_F: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tech_news_terrible_logo.svg [23:19:30] hi half-goat: