[04:56:30] * bawolff all alone at breakfast... [04:56:48] where are my similarly jet lagged peeps? [05:16:42] Im really liking spanish omlettes... [05:19:50] When's breakfast? I just got to the airport [05:22:32] Mostly crappy continental [05:22:45] but the spanish omlette is good [05:23:03] its at the hotel so depends what hotel you are at [05:27:31] Ah, okay. Hopefully between the taxi ride and showering I won't be too late [05:53:07] My taxi found all the traffic so far [06:11:03] Heya. [06:16:12] When is the next bus from the Holiday Inn, and where will it be? [06:23:05] The 8 o'clock bus was out the door of the Holiday Inn and up the hill at the street. Don't know when the next one is. [06:43:43] the first bus driver got lost. He seems to require further details on the route [06:53:08] O/ [07:19:28] There’s about five of us in the auditorium. See more of you here soon. 😃 [07:41:34] Hmm. Apparently the UAB wifi blocks the port my IRC bouncer uses. :( [07:51:33] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OsZZyWk5yQ [08:09:06] anomie: do we have a way to connect to the wifi? [08:09:39] marktraceur: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2018/Program#WiFi_connection_instructions_on_Campus [08:09:51] Aha [08:10:32] I love that wikimedia.fr is referred to as a dummy website. [08:10:38] Thanks, I'm connected [08:26:18] I use http://neverssl.com/ for captive portal checks [08:28:03] now, i know i;m a heretic, but on windows, the portal page just opens automatically when you connect ;) [08:30:40] Firefox 60 seems to detect when wifi has a portal and prompts about it. [08:32:16] mac- and iOS as well, though not as consistently as I would like. [08:32:33] yeah, Ubuntu and Android as well [08:32:59] I like that it’s a browser feature though. [08:33:10] Since, you know, that’s where it matters! [08:35:14] But but, the internet is more than browser! [08:35:40] I need to fill out the captive portal in order to telnet://nethack.alt.org :P [08:40:06] James_F: I think you and Isarra should talk about skin metrics to see how she can get better signal out of the data [08:40:37] Reedy: have you looked at the program on a mobile yet? [08:40:45] I like how that sentence sounds like total nonsense, but... isn't. [08:40:47] Funky things happen when you scroll the table left to right [08:40:48] harej: ^ [08:41:36] Business professionals have made an art of saying basic things sound very slick. [08:41:54] “Please help Isarra look at the numbers more smartly.” [08:41:59] Or saying very silly things and giving them at least some semblance of sense. [08:43:13] addshore: whoaaaa [08:43:14] Socks. Let's talk socks. [08:43:15] freaky [08:43:30] addshore: What is going on?! [08:43:44] Hey folks! If you're interested in using ORES (machine prediction, vandalism detection, quality assessment, etc.) in your tools there's a session at 1600 CEST [08:43:48] It's slightly messed up :D [08:43:49] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194076 [08:44:03] Also where is the coffee I need coffee. [08:44:32] No coffee till 3! / The other building [08:44:39] Whaaaaaaaat. [08:44:45] Isarra: do you know what sort of numbers you want for skin statistics? [08:44:49] making sql queries is fun [08:44:51] Nope! [08:45:04] That's... actually sort of the problem. :P [08:45:41] addshore: no coffee until 3?! There's outrageous! [08:46:01] greg-g: :( [08:46:12] There is actually a coffee machine in the hallway outside this room I think [08:46:20] But you must pay, and I imagine it's not gonna be great [08:46:25] A... what, now? [08:46:31] :( [08:47:31] ACTION can't remember who made the nice mobile friendly programme for wikimania [08:47:36] Kronos perhaps [08:47:44] Maybe having what skin people use (if not using the default) as a pretty graph in grafana would be cool [08:47:44] ... krinkle.... [08:47:51] could see progress over time [08:47:56] if the time period < 3 months... [08:48:31] shuttle bus is every hour? [08:50:01] ACTION wonders if greg-g would allow him to do evil mediawiki-config changes today for wikidata dispatching :p [08:50:12] Oh also, if the one room is livestreamed, we should advertise that on the sitenotice of mediawiki.org to advertise that [08:51:11] petan|lounge: The paper we got at registration said the hotel reception would know. This morning the receptionist at the Holiday Inn said "I don't know the exact schedule, it's supposed to be every 10-15 minutes". Then we went out at 8:27am and had to wait until 9. [08:51:21] addshore: how evil? :) [08:51:39] Not very evil, but it would be great to get out of the way :) [08:51:55] Ack. [08:52:20] <_joe_> addshore: remember, if we get paged, you're not at walking distance ;) [08:52:28] <_joe_> *now [08:52:39] addshore: chrome bug. as usual [08:52:45] the scroll thing [08:52:55] Chrome doesn't like overflows. At all. [08:53:05] <_joe_> addshore: which kinda changes to wikidata dispatching, btw? [08:53:05] _joe_: hehe, I can hide. I should turn the alarm off for wikidata dispatching before I do it [08:53:15] Not sure I actually have the technical ability to do that though [08:53:22] <_joe_> I'm not very happy about deploying things to prod during the weekend [08:53:43] <_joe_> but I can be convinced otherwise (in person, even :)) [08:53:45] _joe_: switching the lock manager from using the file backend lock manager to its own [08:54:05] <_joe_> still on redis? [08:54:10] Yup [08:54:14] <_joe_> ok [08:54:29] <_joe_> I remember that creating issues last time we tried? [08:54:36] <_joe_> but I might remember wrong [08:55:50] Well, depending on today's schedule ends up working out I may or may not do it [08:56:20] Who has the technical ability to turn off alarms / schedule alarm downtime? [09:01:49] _joe_: also, of course I was going to test on testwikidata first ;) [09:03:37] <_joe_> addshore: all SREs [09:04:02] addshore: thedj: i disabled the stick column when scrolling to fix that: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mobile.css&diff=2784263&oldid=2783049 [09:04:08] sticky* [09:04:49] <_joe_> PSA: if you don't like leaking all your connection data on an unencrypted wifi, VPNs don't really work [09:05:21] <_joe_> I had to reconfigure mine to work with TCP (udp is filtered) and to use port 443 instead of the standard openvpn port [09:08:13] Yup, I just got mine working using TCP and port 80 :) [09:08:51] ACTION is on *eduroam* Student life \m/ [09:09:10] Lucky yoy [09:09:15] *you [09:09:20] =D [09:09:21] But this way, everyone could collaborate on my tcp stream [09:09:22] Several ports still filtered [09:09:34] true hackathon spirit [09:09:49] ACTION uses eduroam + his universities VPN [09:09:58] * university's [09:10:00] addshore: I’m assuming no coffee until 3 means we will have an early afternoon siesta between now and then. [09:10:14] harej: I hear there is a nap corner [09:10:21] God I love Europeans. [09:10:36] <_joe_> it's not all europeans :D [09:10:36] I eat dinner after 9pm consistently and nap all the time. I should move here. [09:10:56] <_joe_> harej: you're spanish and you didn't know [09:11:11] I’m actually Sicilian. [09:11:18] <_joe_> oh, paisa' [09:11:23] (My great grandparents left Palermo a century ago.) [09:11:33] <_joe_> oh I didn't know [09:11:53] (It’s hard to tell from my English name and generally Anglo American affect.) [09:12:04] <_joe_> I big slice of my heart is still in Palermo (I worked at the university there for 8 years) [09:12:13] I wish to one day visit. [09:25:02] is there an etherpad for the pitches session? [09:25:50] vgratian: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmhack2018-projects [09:28:06] thanks a lot :) [09:30:54] welcome. In fact it would be great if people doing the pitch would mention where they would be later today. Like the venue is huge and how to find whom is going to be trick . [09:31:01] *tricky [09:32:15] James_F: Id like to talk with you about the taxonomy. I am still in the main room. Please let me know how I can find you (here or Telegram at +420602844067) [09:34:02] If this is the taxonomy I’m thinking of I would also be interested in hearing your thoughts. (I am working on a similar project.) [09:34:23] harej: Its contribution taxonomy. [09:34:31] Dont know what taxonomies exist :D [09:34:40] Where do we find the name badges? I can't find any info on the wiki. [09:34:54] awight: Check in at the hotel, apparently. [09:35:01] awight: In hotel. [09:35:04] argh. k thx [09:35:08] I'll add this to the wiki [09:35:13] I received one when checking in [09:35:17] there are two hotels... [09:35:28] I guess your hotel [09:35:38] I'm not at a hotel! ;-) [09:35:47] magic marker on the shirt :) [09:35:56] Well...Then I dont know :D [09:36:16] Urbanecm: well, there are taxonomies of mental illness, of species... [09:36:32] Wikimedia related taxonomies ofc [09:37:01] awight: Find one of the organizers then, I guess. [09:37:53] tonythomas: It'd be great if we had any idea where we'll be too. [09:37:58] I mean, I agree in principle, but... [09:38:15] I'm not sure how many of us have actually seen the venue yet. [09:38:49] Isarra: :D agreed. /me too looking forward to it. Hope its close. enough of walk :/ [09:39:16] It's... uh... mostly downhillish, at least. [09:39:25] perfect. [09:39:41] ...I think. [09:39:50] awight: we got our tote bags and (empty) name badges. I had to badly write my own name. [09:39:51] ACTION walked past it on the way here, but... [09:40:05] awight: so, you're not totally alone [09:40:06] greg-g: What, so it's discrimination against the non-hotelling? [09:40:22] ACTION also doesn't have a badge yet. [09:40:26] unconcious bias [09:40:33] Noooooo. [09:40:37] :) [09:40:45] greg-g: lol. I left a placeholder on the wiki, at least. [09:41:26] Isarra: +1, I should be accepted for staying in a bus stop. It saves the movement quite a lot of $$ [09:43:05] awight: Exactly! Us hobos should be cherished, not looked down upon! [09:43:15] petan: maybe Jon Robson would want to work on mobile huggle 😁 [09:44:11] Isarra: my new name badge: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/famoustramp/signs.html [09:44:28] Yessss. [09:44:56] ANGELFIRE. [09:46:09] hehe, bought up by the internet giant Lycos [09:47:30] The internet giant who? :] [10:11:28] Hello all. John from WMUK here. Can't be at the hackathon but would like to write updates on it for our blog and social media. I would like to know what projects people are working on and excited about, what tech developments you hope to see on Wikimedia projects, and what you hope to get out of the hackathon. Tell me about your projects! :) [10:12:33] welcome! :) I'll be working on OpenRefine and OAbot :-) [10:16:45] so the wiki says that there are buses all day, but the hotel reception just told me that they stop at noon [10:17:45] I'm not a developer, so I would appreciate if people talking about projects can give a basic description of what they are talking about. What does OpenRefine and OAbot do exactly? [10:18:19] does anyone know what's the case here? [10:22:35] @paravoid: I'll ask now! [10:28:33] @pintoch could you give me more info about the projects you're working on? [10:35:31] I know we're supposed to be socialising, but I'm really, really bad at socialising. When does this end? [10:38:38] @Isarra: Lunch starts at 13:00h! [10:41:48] where is the lunch? [10:44:26] I think it's in the Enginyeria bulding, same place where you are now [10:44:42] IRC is the perfect place for people who hate socialising. [10:45:53] Yes. [10:46:03] Isn't lunch also social, though? [10:47:07] I guess it is; in that case, hacking begins at 14:000h [10:47:11] *14:00 [11:00:18] Krenair: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech [11:31:19] So can I ask participants all the same Q? - What is the most important technical development you would like to see to make Wikimedia projects better? [12:05:18] Isarra: perhaps there is a quiet & small room somewhere [12:06:17] MndCtrl: in terms of specific features, or fundamental architectural decisions? I have many opinions. [12:10:54] hey, if I wanted to use the hackathon as an opportunity to get some of my old stalled patches some love again... how would I go about that? ;3 [12:11:57] I'm going to keep asking: what is the most important technical development you would like to see to make Wikimedia projects better? [12:13:13] arturo: I suppose it would help if I could find anything to begin with. [12:13:19] Is there a map on the wiki? [12:14:27] TK-999: Find the relevant people and talk to them? [12:14:51] anomie: actually, where can I find you? We were working on one of them :) [12:14:56] Isarra: Google Maps has a map of the whole venue, but the specific rooms available for scheduling aren't marked. [12:15:15] TK-999: At the moment I'm sitting in the lobby near the reception/help desk. [12:15:25] Right, thanks. I'll get there then [12:16:47] Bluh. [12:17:26] Also I brought a tub of cheese balls. Where should I put them so people can eat them as totally sensible hacking food? [12:18:16] Based on previous events I was sort of expecting a sort of central space where we could just put whatever and do stuff, but clearly that's not how this one's laid out. [12:22:07] legoktm: I'm having a look at your list of JS errors [12:22:11] think I fixed eswikivoyage [12:22:24] James_F, that's power up here btw [12:22:45] and after fiddling around with networking, proxies, 2FA, etc. things are working okay [12:22:55] Krenair: Define here. [12:23:07] further along the corridor [12:23:12] away from reception [12:24:08] Kk. [12:24:10] just no seats [12:29:12] MndCtrl: Limited to "technical" development? TBH the most important changes need to be social, IMHO. If I need to name one technical development it would be what we currently see at query.wikidata.org: The ability to ask for facts, in contrast to reading articles, which is much more expensive time-wise. [12:29:33] No, not limited. Any thoughts people have on this are really useful. [12:31:14] @Thiemo_WMDE - do you mean that Wikidata is already the most important technical development? For non-coders like me, while I enjoy Wikidata and have been to numerous training sessions I still find it very hard to use. [12:34:26] legoktm: and possible sawikisource [12:36:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2018/Program#/media/File:Wikimedia_Hackathon_2018_area_map.png [12:38:06] TK-999: ask! Post links! [12:49:15] mobrovac: thcipriani and i are leading a session on the pipeline if you're interested in contributing https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194940 [12:50:56] literally just saw the mail notif and was wondering when/where [12:51:01] bugwiki is styling their edit button blue for some reason [12:51:02] marxarelli: ^ :) [12:51:46] mobrovac: i think i see you :) walking over [12:54:37] Hello! Seeing if there are any Swedish people currently at the Hackathon? [12:55:08] Or if anyone knows of anyone who is Swedish, expect for me :) [13:01:47] Newcomers, make sure to stop by Q1/0003 to meet mentors and their artesian posters about interesting projects and skills! [13:03:26] Mobile editing session beginning in Sala de projectes/(QC/0011) in a couple minutes. [13:22:12] What the heck is QC 0011 [13:22:24] oriolsoriano: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161102 [13:22:30] oriolsoriano: http://labels.wmflabs.org/ui/bawiki/ [13:22:35] oriolsoriano: https://ores.wikimedia.org/v3/scores/enwiki/747066 [13:23:01] https://github.com/wiki-ai/wikilabels [13:23:13] I feel so lost in this venue because the hallways look all the same, but I could just be both tired and hyperfocused. [13:27:10] Definitely confusing venue, but the google maps thingy helps a lot :) [13:27:57] :-D [13:28:30] oriolsoriano: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183410 [13:28:50] Tonina_WMDE: So normally you have a printed map at every room door as well [13:28:59] harej: https://goo.gl/maps/PD1Rhnz2r2w [13:29:20] CFisch_WMDE: yes but that makes me feel like a tourist 😃 [13:29:30] We should have a version of that map tagged with the room names [13:33:55] I still can’t find QC/0011 on that map [13:34:08] (the Google map, I mean) [13:44:30] Printed maps everywhere with labels would be great. [13:45:27] Need help with Selenium tests? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NxxS8j4i/IMG_20180518_153449.jpg [13:47:17] Lucas_WMDE: it’s on the map but it’s a small room so you need to zoom in a bit for the name to appear [13:48:11] RoanKattouw: I can take L3 on our etherpad, lmk [13:50:17] zeljkof: i was thinking of running something to write some selenium tests for an extension say - Newsletter extension [13:51:01] tonythomas: we can pair on it! [13:51:19] woah - we have a newcomer too (interested in JS) with me! [13:51:43] you can't miss me, I am in the hallway, there is a big "selenium help" sign on the wall [13:52:13] Should I just put timeless off an make vector properly responsive instead? [13:52:36] I see you there. Let me see if you have space for 2 there :D [13:59:09] Isarra: there are some people from WMDE who wanna discuss timeless + ooui on AdvacedSearch, I think there’s a ticket on phab about it. Please don’t put Timeless off! 😃 [14:00:29] What to complain about on-wiki search? I can lend a sympathetic ear. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FeFLA7bJ/search_sucks.jpg [14:00:58] (I'm in the room where lunch was.) [14:05:18] Tonina_WMDE: Well, I'm not sure they'd appreciate my initial plan of just sitting down and unhelpfuly rewriting the entire layout (except, like, that part) just so IT WORKS IN GODSDAMN CHROME. [14:05:18] Issara but putting vector responsive doesent fix the fact it dosent look modern, timeless looks really good :) [14:05:42] Responsive monobook looks really modern, though. [14:05:58] Isarra: I mean colour wise :) [14:06:17] Oh, right, I also need to kill all of monobook's colours. [14:06:31] Er, timeless's colours. [14:06:39] Timeless colours? [14:06:47] It looks really nice though [14:08:23] ...vienna had coffee. >.> [14:08:46] Isarra: at least we wanna hear your plan :) [14:16:32] anyone here know why I see https://dpaste.de/UUwP/raw on `yarn run` ? [14:17:26] ...what pla? [14:17:27] plan [14:18:37] the initial plan of rewriting the layout you mentioned xD [14:19:26] Tonina_WMDE: Right. That's just the skin at large, getting rid of the bigger overflow: rules because chrome can't handle that. Won't fix anything they're after, though. Might close a VE bug or two. [14:30:34] awight: Isarra is the grantee for WikiProject X part 3, pending a funding decision. She would be the most logical person to go to for integrating the topic prediction model. [14:40:49] CHEESE BALLS AVAILABLE in Sala de trobades 1 (QC/0019). [14:43:21] awight: Turns out L3 is mostly done already, so I've assigned it myself [14:43:26] *to myself [15:01:17] There's food in food room. [15:09:28] Delightful tea sandwiches [15:09:30] and COFFEE [15:09:42] ☕️☕️☕️ [15:11:11] Evening all how's it going at the hackathon far? :) [15:14:14] o/ all going well brion! [15:14:41] Woohoo! Keep on hackin' [15:15:35] we miss you brion :) [15:16:42] Awwww! [15:17:32] I'm hacking on a crazy research project so I feel like I'm with y'all in spirit ;) [15:18:20] Andre is presenting about Phabricator in his socks :) [15:19:07] Haha [15:19:25] Anyone interested in a pokemon go raid? [15:19:33] oh Reedy [15:19:41] wat [15:19:53] jum-s: https://github.com/filbertkm/WikibaseImport & or https://github.com/JeroenDeDauw/Replicator & or also https://github.com/SuLab/WikidataIntegrator [15:21:49] addshore: I have an evil idea (with real chunks of Docker in it) and may need your help. May I talk to you at some point ? :) [15:22:41] oo000oooohh [15:22:44] certainly [15:27:55] brion: <3 [15:29:50] @multichil someone reports trouble with the Gerrit port. Any info? [15:33:24] rfarrand: see perhaps last comment of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172777 [15:38:18] `ssh -vvvv gerrit.wikimedia.org -p 29418` works for me, on UAB (guest) [15:39:08] Eduroam seems to have more ports blocked [15:39:44] UAB is the only one where we made port requests I believe [15:39:55] UAB also have some random (less used) ports blocked, OpenVPN (UDP/TCP1194), people's bouncers, etc... [15:40:07] mosh... [15:41:07] If there are some you need, please put them in that task linked above and I will ask if we can made the adjustments. I don't know if its still possible at this point or not. [15:41:09] But we can try [15:42:01] If you're having gerrit issues, try using https which will use port 443 (You have to use the password in your preferences not your normal password) [15:43:29] I worked around the port blocking by reconfiguring my bouncer to use port 6697. OpenVPN (1194 for both TCP and UDP) should be added to the checklist for the future though, lots of people use that. [15:43:36] UAB works fine for quassel bouncer (4242 iirc) [15:43:38] rfarrand: ^ FYI, the OpenVPN bit [15:44:09] port blocking, bah. that's why everything new routes over https :P [15:47:34] Marshall_: http://ores-beta.wmflabs.org/v3/scores/enwiki/841028866/drafttopic [15:48:25] there are no good reasons to block ports :) [15:49:27] I need a review if someone wants to review a patch. :) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/433719/ [15:49:33] I still have no well defined project that I am working on! [15:49:43] *waves arms around* [15:49:57] addshore well it's composer related. :) [15:50:07] JeanFred: where are you? [15:50:09] addshore, what about JeanFred's evil idea? [15:50:19] davidwbarratt: evil composer extension installation? ;) [15:50:34] addshore ha, even worse, evil MediaWiki Core installation. :) [15:50:34] addshore: man hacking area [15:50:50] Marshall_: https://tools.wmflabs.org/ores-support-checklist/ [15:50:51] addshore: start of Q3 corridort [15:50:54] addshore: talk to Dan and Tyler!~ [15:51:39] ACTION goes walking around searching for people [15:51:44] Is Tyler here? [15:52:31] addshore: thcipriani? [15:52:32] Okay, I'm being stolen for a Kicker game now ;) [15:52:32] yes [15:52:43] I have not seen thcipriani yet! [15:53:42] Krenair: woo :DD [15:53:43] Marshall_: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Automatic_new_article_topics_suggestion [15:53:53] Anyone know where dinner will be? Same place as lunch? Thought I saw documentation about this somewhere but I've lost it. [15:54:26] I think so [15:54:30] There's snack stuff now btw [15:54:55] yarp, thx, just planning and making sure I'm in the right place at the right time :) [15:55:06] Auregann_WMDE everything going OK in the documentation room? [15:56:48] maxbinder: yeah, should be the same place. There is a wine and cheese party at some point tonight also [15:57:05] thx rfarrand [15:58:54] I am bored, anybody has a task for me? :D [16:00:58] I'm looking for a fun Java task for a newcomer. [16:01:08] We're looking through WDQS right now [16:01:58] I don't know Java :/ [16:02:07] I know Python, and some Perl, C++ [16:03:40] Couldn't find dcausse or Stas [16:03:59] Hey vgratian, I can help you. I'm the guy with the sling [16:04:07] I have some python stuff. [16:04:11] JeanFred: when you say the main hacking room, do you mean the hallway? [16:04:26] yes [16:04:49] Found him! [16:04:50] @halfak, where do I find you? [16:05:21] I'm in the hallway. Close to registration facing the wall. [16:05:31] My arm is out of the sling temporarily [16:05:48] coming :) [16:06:27] Who works on gerrit? [16:06:32] I hear it's in Java [16:06:39] That's upstream patches though mostly [16:07:00] halfak i do and chad [16:07:27] paladox: are you at the hackathon? [16:07:33] nope [16:07:39] Booo [16:08:06] halfak though the ui is now based in javascript on html [16:08:20] so pretty much you doin't need to know much about java if your doing frontend [16:08:56] Boo [16:09:26] boo [16:09:38] vgratian: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/scoring-platform-team/ [16:09:45] any mobile devs? [16:09:51] android/ios? [16:12:42] halfak: find cory and have him point you to his folks. or ask bearND|afk who else to ask [16:13:17] oh yeah! Thanks bd808 [16:28:04] Nikerabbit: would you've time to look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/431629/ and give a short feedback about the "new translation key" thing? :) [16:29:14] halfak: mhurd and dbrant are here this week [16:31:32] bearND: found dcausse and made an introduction [16:31:45] Couldn't find mhurd or dbrant earlier :( [16:32:07] FlorianSW: anything particular about it? [16:32:41] Anyone interested in playing with the article topic model I demo'd in the ORES session? [16:33:25] We can use it to identify articles that are missing from a WikiProject and/or route new article creations by subject interest. [16:34:14] Marshall_: Miller? [16:34:28] yes! [16:34:38] Wanna look at some draft topic stuff? [16:34:40] :) [16:34:48] i actually just went over it in person with Adam [16:34:48] I have a demo you can enable onwiki. [16:34:48] Nikerabbit: oh sorry, yes :) The change changes what the message key linkshere expects as the parameter, first it was just the name of the target page (which then would be converted to a link in the message) and now takes the html link itself (without any wikitext stuff int he message anymore). [16:34:53] Oh cool [16:35:26] he showed me how to use the API and I'm going to play with it and get a feel for it @halfak [16:35:35] Nikerabbit: the current patch (after my suggestion) created a new message key (linkshere-html) with the same content as linkshere but expecting an html link as the first parameter. [16:35:43] Nikerabbit: is this the right way of handling such parameter changes? [16:35:57] or do we need/would you suggest to do anything else [16:35:58] ? [16:36:28] Want a UI mod for easier experimentation? [16:36:38] I can come have you up an running in 5 minutes. [16:37:25] that sounds good -- let's find each other in like 30 minutes? [16:37:35] FlorianSW: I'm responding in gerrit [16:37:43] +1 thanks :) [16:37:59] Marshall_: kk [16:40:14] vgratian: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ORES/New_model_checklist [16:41:21] Nudin: [16:41:46] https://github.com/wiki-ai/bwds/pull/2 [16:41:51] vgratian: ^ [16:42:32] thx Nikerabbit! :) [16:43:40] FlorianSW: np:-) [17:00:19] mahuton: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Developing_extensions [17:04:20] Isarra: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:BDavis_(WMF)/global.css -- MatmaRex says he's going to fix that in echo [17:05:48] o/ Marshall_ :) [17:06:40] where are you? [17:06:59] bd808: Yay! When? [17:07:08] ...wait, he's standing right here. [17:07:08] addshore: Jeez, not easy >_> [17:07:17] Isarra: I as going to say ;) [17:07:19] In the main hallway by the "Wikimedia Developer Support" sign [17:07:26] Marshall_: ^ [17:09:57] bd808: He never said that. [17:09:59] But he can. [17:10:26] JeanFred: no? [17:10:35] What happened? [17:11:09] bd808: He doesn't want to. Wants us to put it in the skins. >.> [17:12:15] addshore: SSH-proxy inside Docker is a pain [17:12:33] (I had similar issues when I tried dockerizing Arcanist actually...) [17:14:22] Hmmm [17:20:17] I think they are serving some beers close to registration [17:20:40] The empty beer bottles should go back in the red crates [17:21:47] There is six more sessions slots available on the schedule, at 13:00 (lunch runs over two hours). [17:22:21] vgratian: https://pythonhosted.org/mwxml/ [17:22:28] We also have another room coming soon to the schedule [17:24:23]